Liam O'Brien leaves the club? [Archive]

Prawn Sandwich

25-06-2013, 05:27 AM

According to today's Sun in the briefest of footnotes.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/4982350/This-beats-sub-story-for-Hibs-keeper.html

Last line reads something like "Meanwhile Liam O'Brien leaves the club while Jimmy Nicol arrives?"

Pat certainly is not shy when it comes to making the changes. The article says that Ben Williams will lead the club out in the European tie suggesting he will be the captain too?

All news to me. Has this all been announced previously?

scoopyboy

25-06-2013, 05:50 AM

Beefster

25-06-2013, 05:54 AM

At the risk of sounding a bit harsh, I don't think LO'B would be that big a miss. Now that we have Nicholl, we could replace him with a far cheaper young, hungry coach and be no worse off.

Teapot

25-06-2013, 06:13 AM

He did an interview with InterviewLOI a couple of weeks ago in Ireland and all the indications were that he was expecting to be working with Hibs next season.

down-the-slope

25-06-2013, 06:42 AM

marinello59

25-06-2013, 06:55 AM

So I was reading the body language right....As I mentioned on JN thread it was noticeable in last 6/8 games last season that while LOB was in dug out it was Scott Thomson who was out instructing players and having discussions with PF. Looked to me like he had fallen down pecking order. JN has a good reputation and has been a decent manager in his own right as well as a respected coach....could be more important change than even some of the signings in terms of moving us forward this season...

That was the situation throughout the whole season, not just the last few games. Thomson was often up on his feet giving instructions, particularly during defensive set pieces. LOB's input appeared limited to say the least.

Viva_Palmeiras

25-06-2013, 07:08 AM

Joe le Taxi or Il Postino (he delivers)?

The Sea-gull

25-06-2013, 07:10 AM

Sorry for being lookist but L O'B just never looked the part. Looks like a school janny.

Mind you, PF looks like a Maths teacher.

Hibercelona

25-06-2013, 07:16 AM

Sorry for being lookist but L O'B just never looked the part. Looks like a school janny.

Mind you, PF looks like a Maths teacher.

Hopefully he has sussed out the formula for free flowing attacking football and is getting his knowledge across to the lads.

greenpaper55

25-06-2013, 07:21 AM

Maybe we will be able to take a throw in instead of just giving it to the opposition ?.

frazeHFC

25-06-2013, 07:35 AM

I don't know if LOB has left the club but he was nowhere to be seen on Friday or Saturday (no training on Sunday).

JN present both days and training very good.

The players on twitter certainly seemed exhausted. I dont even know who Jimmy Nichol is but sounds like he is getting them working hard with some pretty intense training which is good preperation for Europe and the new league season!

SMAXXA

25-06-2013, 07:36 AM

So I was reading the body language right....As I mentioned on JN thread it was noticeable in last 6/8 games last season that while LOB was in dug out it was Scott Thomson who was out instructing players and having discussions with PF. Looked to me like he had fallen down pecking order. JN has a good reputation and has been a decent manager in his own right as well as a respected coach....could be more important change than even some of the signings in terms of moving us forward this season...

Not really he has always been like that since he came in, more of an observational approach then feeds in his thoughts to PF.

NOLA

25-06-2013, 07:38 AM

Peevemor

25-06-2013, 07:42 AM

The players on twitter certainly seemed exhausted. I dont even know who Jimmy Nichol is but sounds like he is getting them working hard with some pretty intense training which is good preperation for Europe and the new league season!

He dd a great job as manager at Raith Rovers, including beating Celtic in the league cup final and thus qualifying for the UEFA cup - leading to this unlikely half-time scoreline.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44368000/jpg/_44368734_raithbayern203.jpg

frazeHFC

25-06-2013, 07:47 AM

jimmy nicholl is a hun, thats all you need to know about him :greengrin

He dd a great job as manager at Raith Rovers, including beating Celtic in the league cup final and thus qualifying for the UEFA cup - leading to this unlikely half-time scoreline.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44368000/jpg/_44368734_raithbayern203.jpg

Very different reviews there. :greengrin

Hopefully make a difference to us anyway. :thumbsup:

Treadstone

25-06-2013, 07:49 AM

If true looks like good management to me. Get your replacement before the incumbent leaves.

Seanair

25-06-2013, 08:02 AM

Maybe we will be able to take a throw in instead of just giving it to the opposition ?.
Was about to post the above, but would also add a biit about NOT covering at opponents'thow-ins. Also taking corners that get higher than the first defender.
Also a higher level of fitness etc., etc.

LO'B has not been a good coach IMO.

J-C

25-06-2013, 08:32 AM

Sure I read a post about LOB shouting and cussing on the sidelines and seemingly all the players simply ignoring what he was saying, possibly couldn't make the step up to SPL level as a coach.

JimBHibees

25-06-2013, 08:41 AM

Was about to post the above, but would also add a biit about NOT covering at opponents'thow-ins. Also taking corners that get higher than the first defender.
Also a higher level of fitness etc., etc.

LO'B has not been a good coach IMO.

Dont really know how you can say that without knowing exactly how he works. Not all good coaches need to be screaming at players on the touchline either. The best coach Hibs have had recently is probably Mowbray who seemed to have very little matchday input.

down-the-slope

25-06-2013, 08:44 AM

Not really he has always been like that since he came in, more of an observational approach then feeds in his thoughts to PF.

Nah early in his time he would be out at edge of area giving instructions (a lot of which seemed incomprehensible) / having conversations with PF etc...

SMAXXA

25-06-2013, 08:46 AM

Was about to post the above, but would also add a biit about NOT covering at opponents'thow-ins. Also taking corners that get higher than the first defender.
Also a higher level of fitness etc., etc.

LO'B has not been a good coach IMO.

And you know this how? Always find posts like this bizarre as generally people have no clue at all what happens at Hibs yet form opinions from afar based on who knows what.

truehibernian

25-06-2013, 09:12 AM

And you know this how? Always find posts like this bizarre as generally people have no clue at all what happens at Hibs yet form opinions from afar based on who knows what.

:top marks

L'OB works with Pat but more often than not socialises with him too. I've always found Liam a big, gentle giant - quite quiet in company which can be misconstrued as being ignorant (if that makes sense). Wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of him mind, he's a big lad. It clearly goes beyond a working relationship with the pair of them, they are great mates too.

JimBHibees

25-06-2013, 09:36 AM

Does anyone know is there is any truth in this story or is it the Sun taking a punt on Nicholl coming in so LOB must be leaving?

ian cruise

25-06-2013, 10:38 AM

Don't know about the sun story but if LO'B is going syne it's his decision. We're all assuming he's been binned, maybe he just wanted to return to Ireland. He or his family maybe didn't settle? I don't know either way just putting it out there.

Northernhibee

25-06-2013, 10:48 AM

If he has left then I wish him all the best wherever he heads to.

Prawn Sandwich

25-06-2013, 11:12 AM

Now quoted in the EEN at the bottom of the the article about Fraser Mullin.

"Meanwhile, Liam O’Brien, who has been first-team coach with Hibs since Fenlon became manager 19 months ago, is set to leave in the wake of Jimmy Nicholl’s appointment as assistant manager."

hibsbollah

25-06-2013, 11:20 AM

Sure I read a post about LOB shouting and cussing on the sidelines and seemingly all the players simply ignoring what he was saying, possibly couldn't make the step up to SPL level as a coach.

Tannadice first game of the season. Horsed 0-3. Fenlon was still serving out his touchline ban. Liams contribution seemed to be limited to shouting 'f*** aff' once in each half to an unspecific player and shouting 'Jorge!' 4 or 5 times to alert a warming up Claros that he wanted to bring him on. None of the players seemed to pay him much notice at any point.

IWasThere2016

25-06-2013, 11:50 AM

He's gone apparently?!?! :confused:

KeithTheHibby

25-06-2013, 11:55 AM

jimmy nicholl is a hun, thats all you need to know about him :greengrin

Nichol out LOB in.

.Sean.

25-06-2013, 08:39 PM

jimmy nicholl is a hun, thats all you need to know about him :greengrin
And Fenlon's a tim, who cares really.

Jonnyboy

25-06-2013, 09:53 PM

I hope Rod has arranged for someone else to stand in the back corner of the dug-out, muttering strings of sweary words under his breath. :wink:

Scouse Hibee

25-06-2013, 09:56 PM

I hope Rod has arranged for someone else to stand in the back corner of the dug-out, muttering strings of sweary words under his breath. :wink:

Another opportunity for Hibs to demonstrate their care in the community spirit and offer a redundant jambo punter the position of sweary dug out lurker.

maturehibby

28-06-2013, 09:33 AM

reading the Suns "Story" about Killen and then went to the related articles part and there was a story about Ben Williams being on the bench for Man U and at the end of the article they slip in a wee bit about Liam O,Brien leaving sharp on the Heels of Jimmy Nicholl,s arrival - have I missed this somewhere or is it just the Sun using "Creative journalism"

ian cruise

28-06-2013, 09:39 AM

Where as the article about our new physio coming from Newcastle states he will join up will ex Newcasyle team mate Liam O'Brien??? What's going on Hibs?

Aldo

28-06-2013, 10:03 AM

Where as the article about our new physio coming from Newcastle states he will join up will ex Newcasyle team mate Liam O'Brien??? What's going on Hibs?

Onwards and upwards. Moving forward that's what's happening.

Stevie Reid

28-06-2013, 01:30 PM

It would be good to get some clarification from Hibs about this. I presumed that Nicholl was an addition to the coaching staff as opposed to a replacement for LOB, though am happy to have him either way - it would mark quite a change for Pat though, given how long he has worked with Liam.

Excited about Nicholl's addition either way, can only be a good thing IMO. Ross County were holding their own in the SPL last year, but went from strength to strength after Neale Cooper was appointed assistant manager in late November.

silverhibee

28-06-2013, 11:29 PM

Has he left the club, a simple yes or no will do. :greengrin

kevinc

28-06-2013, 11:43 PM

Has he left the club, a simple yes or no will do. :greengrinyes, he was advised of this the day after the final and did not see it coming.

silverhibee

29-06-2013, 12:07 AM

yes, he was advised of this the day after the final and did not see it coming.

:aok:

fat freddy

29-06-2013, 12:14 AM

Morning Glory sales figures drop significantly :tee hee:

.Sean.

29-06-2013, 02:41 AM

No great loss. Jimmy Nic will have a far bigger influence over the players, for one he actually knows his stuff and doesn't need to shout and swear when trying to get his point across.

Billy Whizz

29-06-2013, 07:28 AM

yes, he was advised of this the day after the final and did not see it coming.

Who's decision, Pats?

lucky

29-06-2013, 07:45 AM

We will see today if he had left or not. I do find it strange the club have not made any comment on him leaving, so that would lead me to believe he has not

bingo70

29-06-2013, 07:50 AM

We will see today if he had left or not. I do find it strange the club have not made any comment on him leaving, so that would lead me to believe he has not

That says to me there may be more to it and there's a reason we're not saying anything, could possibly be a personal issue that o'brien doesn't want in the public domain? Couldbe that we don't know if he'll be back.

Andy74

29-06-2013, 07:57 AM

That says to me there may be more to it and there's a reason we're not saying anything, could possibly be a personal issue that o'brien doesn't want in the public domain? Couldbe that we don't know if he'll be back.

Strange one as they have worked together for years and get on very well. Would also assume there's a wee bit more to it.

J-C

29-06-2013, 09:20 AM

Strange one as they have worked together for years and get on very well. Would also assume there's a wee bit more to it.

Maybe LOB thought he should've been named as assistant manager and has gone home in the huff for being overlooked, simple as that.

eastmainsmsh

29-06-2013, 10:28 AM

big man was awesome as a player with toon :not worth

was inspirational in keegans side that won old second division at a canter

would hope he has a managerial post in Ireland if he has left

his son Conal plays for Bohemians

sesoim

30-06-2013, 01:56 AM

Was about to post the above, but would also add a biit about NOT covering at opponents'thow-ins. Also taking corners that get higher than the first defender.
Also a higher level of fitness etc., etc.

LO'B has not been a good coach IMO.

Shouldn't Fenlon take some responsibility for poor tactics/organization and poor players (a fair few of whom he has signed)? Either way, Nicholl will improve things.

NYHibby

02-07-2013, 10:12 PM

He dd a great job as manager at Raith Rovers, including beating Celtic in the league cup final and thus qualifying for the UEFA cup - leading to this unlikely half-time scoreline.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44368000/jpg/_44368734_raithbayern203.jpg

Scott Thompson was Jimmy Nicholl's goalie at Raith. Is there anyone else from that Raith team we can bring in as a coach? Danny Lennon? Colin Cameron?

silverhibee

03-07-2013, 11:01 AM

Maybe LOB thought he should've been named as assistant manager and has gone home in the huff for being overlooked, simple as that.

Think there is a bit more to it than that.

Gatecrasher

03-07-2013, 11:54 AM

yes, he was advised of this the day after the final and did not see it coming.

So why in the LOI Interview at a charity game he said he was looking forward to the new season :confused:

IWasThere2016

03-07-2013, 01:03 PM

So why in the LOI Interview at a charity game he said he was looking forward to the new season :confused:

Yup .. this was sudden move IMHO.

JimBHibees

30-07-2013, 07:46 PM

I was away for hols recently and wondered if there had been an explanation of why LOB left. Thought it was a strange one with him being with PF for a few years. The bringing in of Jimmy Nicholl while a positive step IMO smacks a little of a Derek Adams type appointment in that I am not altogether sure PF would have known him much before the appointment.

Would this appointment undermine the managers position?