Europa League draw: Drogheda or Malmo v Hibs

[Since90+2]

Does anyone know when UEFA will announce the split of the pots for the draw?

[jgl07]

Does anyone know when UEFA will announce the split of the pots for the draw?

Last year they published nothing before the draw itself. That is next Monday so I assume the same will apply this year.

The pots apply to the group stages only.

All we know is that Hibs will be unseeded. The teams will be split into eight groups of ten teams (five seeded and five unseeded) for the second round draw.

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedel2013.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013–14_UEFA_Europa_League

[FastEddieFelson]

utrecht please

[Craig_in_Prague]

utrecht please

Sparta Prague please - Only chance to play a team in maroon this year :-)

[SteveHFC]

Standard Liege ;)

[Siralbertkidd]

Sparta Prague please - Only chance to play a team in maroon this year :-)

Just had a preview of the draw -

Hibs v Sparta Prague
Hertz v Sparta ns

[pacorosssco]

utrecht please

Great city and great place to spend a few days drinking. Fans are hardcore though and have Rangers ties.

[TomoHFC]

Teams I would like is either Sparta Prague, Lech Poznan or Ruben Kazan.

[Keith_M]

I'd prefer Sturm Graz.

Great city and fantastic stadium.


The Bundesland (state) that it's in is Stiermark (Styria). We could all do our bit for cultural relations and buy loads of the state flags to take to the game


10333

[lucky]

Can someone post the list of teams we can get

[Since90+2]

Can someone post the list of teams we can get



Rubin Kazan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Rubin_Kazan) CC: 58.266
Standard Liège (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Li%C3%A8ge) CC: 45.880
Hapoel Tel Aviv (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hapoel_Tel_Aviv_F.C.) CC: 29.575
Sparta Prague (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Sparta_Prague) CC: 29.245
Lech Poznań (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lech_Pozna%C5%84) CC: 23.650
Trabzonspor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trabzonspor) CC: 21.400
AaB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AaB_Fodbold) CC: 19.640
Anorthosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anorthosis_Famagusta_FC) CC: 17.366
Utrecht (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Utrecht) CC: 13.945
Maccabi Haifa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabi_Haifa_F.C.) CC: 13.575
Sturm Graz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SK_Sturm_Graz) CC: 11.575
Omonia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Omonia) CC: 10.366
Chornomorets Odesa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Chornomorets_Odesa) CC: 9.951
Debrecen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debreceni_VSC) CC: 9.850
Hajduk Split (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNK_Hajduk_Split) CC: 8.916
Red Star Belgrade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_Belgrade) CC: 8.425
Slovan Liberec (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Slovan_Liberec) CC: 7.745
Thun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Thun) CC: 7.285
Śląsk Wrocław (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9Al%C4%85sk_Wroc%C5%82aw) CC: 7.150
PAS Giannina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAS_Giannina_F.C.) CC: 6.800
Shakhtyor Salihorsk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Shakhtyor_Salihorsk) CC: 5.175
IFK Göteborg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IFK_G%C3%B6teborg) CC: 5.125
Rijeka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNK_Rijeka) CC: 4.916
Minsk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Minsk) CC: 4.675
Petrolul Ploiești (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Petrolul_Ploie%C8%99ti) CC: 4.604
Pandurii Târgu Jiu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CS_Pandurii_T%C3%A2rgu_Jiu) CC: 4.604


Plus the winners of the 1st round ties.

[hibeenicol]

I'd prefer to get Irish or welsh teams or whoever else is lowest rated of the seeded teams. Save the good trips and holidays for the group stages :thumbsup:

[Since90+2]

I'd prefer to get Irish or welsh teams or whoever else is lowest rated of the seeded teams. Save the good trips and holidays for the group stages :thumbsup:

We would still have to come through the 3rd qualifying round and then the play off round to make it to the group stages.

If we achieved that it would be a minor miracle.

[hibeenicol]

We would still have to come through the 3rd qualifying round and then the play off round to make it to the group stages.

If we achieved that it would be a minor miracle.

Not impossible though if the draws are kind to us. I would rather we avoided the Utrecht's and Sparta Pragues etc at least for the first round we're in and get a few games in Europe.

[hfc rd]

Does anyone know what Pat Fenlon's record in Europe is like?

[HibeeLR]

Does anyone know what Pat Fenlon's record in Europe is like?

His 2004 season with Shelbourne saw Fenlon lead his squad past Icelandic champions KR Reykjavík and Croatian high-flyers Hajduk Split to a meeting with Spanish giants Deportivo la Coruña in the UEFA Champions League, becoming the first manager to reach the third qualifying round with an Irish club.

[hibeedonald]

Not impossible though if the draws are kind to us. I would rather we avoided the Utrecht's and Sparta Pragues etc at least for the first round we're in and get a few games in Europe.

This, easiest team in first round please, its worth a lot to the club for reaching a further stage.

[Sas_The_Hibby]

We would still have to come through the 3rd qualifying round and then the play off round to make it to the group stages.

If we achieved that it would be a minor miracle.

And something (winning through three rounds) we've never done before in Europe.

[Pretty Boy]

Liege, Pozna, Utrecht, Prague or Belgrade would be my choices.

[brydekirk]

I'd prefer to get Irish or welsh teams or whoever else is lowest rated of the seeded teams. Save the good trips and holidays for the group stages :thumbsup:

Like it, ggtth.

[Billy Whizz]

Can you imagine how much it would cost us if we were to make the Group stages

[hfc rd]

Not impossible though if the draws are kind to us. I would rather we avoided the Utrecht's and Sparta Pragues etc at least for the first round we're in and get a few games in Europe.


This.

[Diclonius]

Weakest possible seeded team please. :aok:

[DaveF]

Without the help of Google, can anyone tell me where the hell these places are :greengrin

Petrolul Ploiești and Pandurii Târgu Jiu

[AngusHibby]

Without the help of Google, can anyone tell me where the hell these places are :greengrin

Petrolul Ploiești and Pandurii Târgu Jiu

I'd guess petrolul were Romanian because their name is similar to otelul galati... Haven't a clue about the other one

[JohnStephens91]

Without the help of Google, can anyone tell me where the hell these places are :greengrin

Petrolul Ploiești and Pandurii Târgu Jiu

Seems like they are from Romania judging by the language

[Jamesie]

Seems like they are from Romania judging by the language

Both in Romania. One is a couple of hours from Bucharest, the other some distance away - indeed probably about the same distance from Bucharest as to Belgrade in Serbia!

Personally July is a nightmare for getting holidays in my work this year as everyone seems to want the last fortnight off. Ideally somewhere in Western Europe that my firm has an office and where I can fly out Wednesday evening, work Thursday from that office, go to the game, work Friday in that office and enjoy Saturday wherever we may be before flying home Sunday! :greengrin

[JohnStephens91]

Rubin Kazan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Rubin_Kazan) CC: 58.266 - Russia
Standard Liège (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Li%C3%A8ge) CC: 45.880 - Belgium
Hapoel Tel Aviv (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hapoel_Tel_Aviv_F.C.) CC: 29.575 - Israel
Sparta Prague (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Sparta_Prague) CC: 29.245 - Czech Republic
Lech Poznań (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lech_Pozna%C5%84) CC: 23.650 - Poland
Trabzonspor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trabzonspor) CC: 21.400 - Turkey
AaB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AaB_Fodbold) CC: 19.640 - Denmark
Anorthosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anorthosis_Famagusta_FC) CC: 17.366 - Cyprus
Utrecht (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Utrecht) CC: 13.945 - Netherlands
Maccabi Haifa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabi_Haifa_F.C.) CC: 13.575 - Israel
Sturm Graz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SK_Sturm_Graz) CC: 11.575 - Austria
Omonia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Omonia) CC: 10.366 - Cyrpus
Chornomorets Odesa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Chornomorets_Odesa) CC: 9.951 - Ukraine
Debrecen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debreceni_VSC) CC: 9.850 - Hungary
Hajduk Split (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNK_Hajduk_Split) CC: 8.916 - Croatia
Red Star Belgrade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_Belgrade) CC: 8.425 - Serbia
Slovan Liberec (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Slovan_Liberec) CC: 7.745 - Czech Republic
Thun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Thun) CC: 7.285 - Switzerland
Śląsk Wrocław (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9Al%C4%85sk_Wroc%C5%82aw) CC: 7.150 - Poland
PAS Giannina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAS_Giannina_F.C.) CC: 6.800 - Greece
Shakhtyor Salihorsk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Shakhtyor_Salihorsk) CC: 5.175 - Belarus
IFK Göteborg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IFK_G%C3%B6teborg) CC: 5.125 - Sweden
Rijeka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNK_Rijeka) CC: 4.916 - Croatia
Minsk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Minsk) CC: 4.675 - Belarus
Petrolul Ploiești (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Petrolul_Ploie%C8%99ti) CC: 4.604 - Romania
Pandurii Târgu Jiu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CS_Pandurii_T%C3%A2rgu_Jiu) CC: 4.604 - Romania


Plus the winners of the 1st round ties.

I've amended it all for people to know what countries the teams are from. Any corrections then feel free to make them

[NAE NOOKIE]

Its been a long standing ambition to follow Hibs to a European game.

Until the last few years that was an impossible dream for me as the cost would have been out of the question.

Now I have the money, but no chance whatsoever of getting the days off work I would need in July.

It has to be the weakest possible team in the first game to give us a chance of getting through coz I'm on holiday for 2 weeks in August when, as far as I am aware, the next round will be played. Unfortunately for me this practically guarantees us a tough, but easy to get to first tie.


:grr:

[Seekyit]

If Wikipidia is telling the truth, 7 teams automatically qualify for the group stages;

Wigan Athletic (England)
Valencia (Spain)
Freiburg (Germany)
Lazio (Italy)
Vitoria de Guimaraes ((Portugal)
Bordeaux (France)
Anzhi Makhachkala (Russia)


179 teams will compete for the remaining 41 group stage places over 4 rounds (3 rounds and a play off).

[jonny]

Can you imagine how much it would cost us if we were to make the Group stages

The prize money alone for reaching the group stage is 1.3m euros per team - on top of that you get 200k for every group stage win and 100k for every draw. Add to that tv revenue and additional gate money and it would be quite lucrative to a club our size.

[essexhibee]

Anywhere that is cheap to get too and not likely to get stabbed please :thumbsup:

[hibsboy90]

Can anyone let me know when we find out if our away game in Europe is the first or second leg please.

Trying to sort out time off work and need to know. (Would search but not meant to be on .net during the day!)

Thanks in advance

[Part/Time Supporter]

Can anyone let me know when we find out if our away game in Europe is the first or second leg please.

Trying to sort out time off work and need to know. (Would search but not meant to be on .net during the day!)

Thanks in advance

Won't know until the draw (next Monday?)

[hibsboy90]

Won't know until the draw (next Monday?)

Thanks, so a week on monday we'll know if we are home or away first or second leg.

[Craig_in_Prague]

Thanks, so a week on monday we'll know if we are home or away first or second leg.

no, Monday coming (24th)

[Billy Whizz]

The prize money alone for reaching the group stage is 1.3m euros per team - on top of that you get 200k for every group stage win and 100k for every draw. Add to that tv revenue and additional gate money and it would be quite lucrative to a club our size.

I meant for the fans

[Posh Swanny]

Weakest possible seeded team please. :aok:

Even better if the unseeded team in the 1Q tie overcame the odds!

[booshsutton]

Are hibs likely to offer packages for the away leg, or would fans need to make their own way? Will tickets be available through the club?

Also do we know if hibs are away in the first or second leg given their seeding?

Me & some mates are keen and I'm planning to book flights on Monday, however worst case we get a draw against the winner of team x vs team y. Last question (honest), any ideas on the time of the draw?

[Billy Whizz]

Are hibs likely to offer packages for the away leg, or would fans need to make their own way? Will tickets be available through the club?

Also do we know if hibs are away in the first or second leg given their seeding?

Me & some mates are keen and I'm planning to book flights on Monday, however worst case we get a draw against the winner of team x vs team y. Last question (honest), any ideas on the time of the draw?
When we played in Slovenia a few years ago, I don't think we had any places for fans, but I could be wrong.
Although on Monday we will know if we're at home or away 1st, you won't be able to book flights until the 1st leg qualifiers have been played

[JimBHibees]

Is there any chance we could end up seeded if a number of seeded teams get knocked out in the first round?

[LancashireHibby]

Although on Monday we will know if we're at home or away 1st, you won't be able to book flights until the 1st leg qualifiers have been played
A number of the teams we can be drawn against won't be qualifying a first round qualifier, so we may know our destination on Monday.

[jgl07]

Is there any chance we could end up seeded if a number of seeded teams get knocked out in the first round?
No because the first and second qualifying rounds are drawn on the same day.

If an unseeded team from the first round wins through they collect the seeding of the team they eliminated.

The draw for the third round is made before the second round matches have been completed so much the same applies there.

[HibeeMG]

No because the first and second qualifying rounds are drawn on the same day.

If an unseeded team from the first round wins through they collect the seeding of the team they eliminated.

The draw for the third round is made before the second round matches have been completed so much the same applies there.

But given that, there is a chance that we could play an unseeded team even although we are unseeded ourselves. I think that was what the question was aiming at.

[booshsutton]

When we played in Slovenia a few years ago, I don't think we had any places for fans, but I could be wrong.
Although on Monday we will know if we're at home or away 1st, you won't be able to book flights until the 1st leg qualifiers have been played

Cheers. Did Hibs sell tickets direct for the game? I'm a season ticket holder and the other lads who would be going are all on the Hibs database so getting tickets via. Hibs should be achievable should they sell them.

If we get a team who are already seeded in the 2nd round proper then booking flights wouldn't be an issue. Similarly, I'm thinking that if we were drawn against a first round winner then the two locations are within a reasonable distance of one another. I'd probably take my chance with the favourite, then rent a car if need be should the underdog win.

[JimBHibees]

No because the first and second qualifying rounds are drawn on the same day.

If an unseeded team from the first round wins through they collect the seeding of the team they eliminated.

The draw for the third round is made before the second round matches have been completed so much the same applies there.

Ok thanks so it will be either or unless we draw a team already through to 2nd round. Really hope we are away first up as will miss the home leg otherwise.

[JimBHibees]

But given that, there is a chance that we could play an unseeded team even although we are unseeded ourselves. I think that was what the question was aiming at.

I didnt realise both rounds were drawn at the same time. I was wondering if for example a number of seeded teams were knocked out could we move up the list and possibly get a seeded place. Given both rounds are at same time we could still play previously unseeded team.

[blackpoolhibs]

The club did try and put a chartered flight on for Slovenia, if my memory is right they wanted nearly £600, then changed it to £550 or thereabouts for a 2 day package.

We said sod that, and got flights from Manchester to Munich £60 return, car hire and fuel was roughly £70, and hotel was another £50-£60. The car journey was only 4 hours and the flight an hour.

The club will probably try and put another trip on i'd imagine, but if you scout around you can get to the game a lot cheaper with a little luck. :thumbsup:

[Jamesie]

The club did try and put a chartered flight on for Slovenia, if my memory is right they wanted nearly £600, then changed it to £550 or thereabouts for a 2 day package.

We said sod that, and got flights from Manchester to Munich £60 return, car hire and fuel was roughly £70, and hotel was another £50-£60. The car journey was only 4 hours and the flight an hour.

The club will probably try and put another trip on i'd imagine, but if you scout around you can get to the game a lot cheaper with a little luck. :thumbsup:

The only circumstance in which a charter could become attractive to me would be if we are fortunate enough to qualify for the Third Round. It is feasible that we don't know that until the conclusion of the second leg of our Second Round tie at, say, 10pm on Thursday 25 July. At that point we could be looking for flights for a first leg tie to take place on Thursday 1 August - guaranteed to be very expensive at any time of year, let alone the peak of summer!

If we end up being drawn against an Azeri or Kazakh team in that Third Round then getting a visa in that timescale could be nigh on impossible though, unless the club helps out. Both countries have embassies in London but you'd be paying top dollar for a turn around in that timeframe - an Azeri visa is about £150 using the non-express service!

[hibsboy90]

Won't know until the draw (next Monday?)


no, Monday coming (24th)
Cheers guys, got it booked off! :flag:

[Jamesie]

Cheers guys, got it booked off! :flag:

Starting to get extremely excited about this. Looks like from our perspective 13:30 British Summer Time on Monday is when the draw will commence for the Second Round: http://www.uefa.com/uefa/events/newsid=1965211.html

[Dalkeith]

The club did try and put a chartered flight on for Slovenia, if my memory is right they wanted nearly £600, then changed it to £550 or thereabouts for a 2 day package.

We said sod that, and got flights from Manchester to Munich £60 return, car hire and fuel was roughly £70, and hotel was another £50-£60. The car journey was only 4 hours and the flight an hour.

The club will probably try and put another trip on i'd imagine, but if you scout around you can get to the game a lot cheaper with a little luck. :thumbsup:

that was a great trip, planning something similar this time although depends on the draw

[AngusHibby]

Just had a look at whats the furthest away we might have to travel... The answer is over 4,000 miles to Pavlodar in Kazakhstan, 500 miles from the chinese border. Please, please, please, let us not be drawn against them

[SteveHFC]

Just had a look at whats the furthest away we might have to travel... The answer is over 4,000 miles to Pavlodar in Kazakhstan, 500 miles from the chinese border. Please, please, please, let us not be drawn against them

its a cert now you have mentioned it

[alibucharest]

Without the help of Google, can anyone tell me where the hell these places are :greengrin

Petrolul Ploiești and Pandurii Târgu Jiu

Targu jui http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A2rgu_Jiu#Sports
playing at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadionul_Municipal_%28T%C3%A2rgu_Jiu%29

If it is like the CL then the only ground suitable in Romania is the National Stadium in Bucharest.

[Jamesie]

Just had a look at whats the furthest away we might have to travel... The answer is over 4,000 miles to Pavlodar in Kazakhstan, 500 miles from the chinese border. Please, please, please, let us not be drawn against them

I've had my eye on Pavlodar in this draw for a wee while now - further east than Mumbai :greengrin

It could be worse though - Luch Energiya Vladivostok were in the Russian Premier League from 2006 - 2008. Had they qualified for the UEFA Cup in that time, it would have been some journey: http://www.uefa.com/news/newsid=405053.html. Almost on the same longitude as Adelaide, Australia!

[AngusHibby]

I've had my eye on Pavlodar in this draw for a wee while now - further east than Mumbai :greengrin

It could be worse though - Luch Energiya Vladivostok were in the Russian Premier League from 2006 - 2008. Had they qualified for the UEFA Cup in that time, it would have been some journey: http://www.uefa.com/news/newsid=405053.html. Almost on the same longitude as Adelaide, Australia!

Imagine the trip back if we lost...

[ronaldo7]

that was a great trip, planning something similar this time although depends on the draw

You're supposed to be driving this time:greengrin

[Part/Time Supporter]

I've had my eye on Pavlodar in this draw for a wee while now - further east than Mumbai :greengrin

It could be worse though - Luch Energiya Vladivostok were in the Russian Premier League from 2006 - 2008. Had they qualified for the UEFA Cup in that time, it would have been some journey: http://www.uefa.com/news/newsid=405053.html. Almost on the same longitude as Adelaide, Australia!

GOC must have played against them at least once for Lokomotiv.

With some of those far flung Russian clubs (Anzhi is another example), the teams are based in Moscow but then fly out to their "home" city for their home games. It kind of works because a) the foreign players are more prepared to be based there and b) a big share of the "away" games are in Moscow.

[Jamesie]

GOC must have played against them at least once for Lokomotiv.

He certainly did - I remember him mentioning it in an interview and this link confirms it: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/garry-oconnor/bilanz-detail/spieler_15708_4057.html


With some of those far flung Russian clubs (Anzhi is another example), the teams are based in Moscow but then fly out to their "home" city for their home games. It kind of works because a) the foreign players are more prepared to be based there and b) a big share of the "away" games are in Moscow.

I think historically both Anzhi and Terek Grozny played their home games in Moscow due to security fears in the Northern Caucasus. Chechnya is surprisingly stable these days compared to a few years ago and Terek are about to move into a new 30,000 stadium in Grozny, albeit Dagestan (where Anzhi are from the capital, Makhachkala) is still seen as a bit "hot" by UEFA and they continue to play their games in Moscow.

[Dalkeith]

You're supposed to be driving this time:greengrin

forgot about that, memory fail fast:greengrin

[Hibeesmad]

Does anybody know what time it is on monday and if it is on tv or not?

[jgl07]

Does anybody know what time it is on monday and if it is on tv or not?
It was drawn in secret last year although a video was produced subsequently.

Just have to wait for the draw to be posted on the UEFA Website.

[Big_Franck]

Does anybody know what time it is on monday and if it is on tv or not?

It is going to be shown live on the UEFA website at 13:30 on Monday. See link below:

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=1965312.html

[OsloHibs]

Good Luck Hibs :aok: Hoping for somewhere close to me..

[S4uzee]

Anorthosis Famagusta would be a good tie, now based in Larnaca and not that far away from Ayia Napa!!

[hfc rd]

Would like us to get a team that we have a chance of progressing for a change. Also I hope the 1st leg is at home as will be heading for my family holiday on July 23rd.

[JimBHibees]

Would like us to get a team that we have a chance of progressing for a change. Also I hope the 1st leg is at home as will be heading for my family holiday on July 23rd.

I am hoping for the reverse for the exact same holiday reason e.g back on the 21st. :greengrin

[PatHead]

Someone told me that the teams get put in pots of about 6 just before the draw. Is that right?

[lucky]

It is being claimed on Bounce that we are at home for the 1st leg because we are not seeded. Can anyone confirm this?

[hfc rd]

It is being claimed on Bounce that we are at home for the 1st leg because we are not seeded. Can anyone confirm this?


I hope that's true. But were we not unseeded as well when we played Maribor back in 2010?

[Spike Mandela]

I hope that's true. But were we not unseeded as well when we played Maribor back in 2010?

Ahhhh the heady days when John Hughes showed his tacical genius by dropping the 52 goal pairing of Stokes and Riordan to play Colin Nish as our lone striker. Those were the days.:cb

[NOLA]

wouldnt mind getting ploeisti in romania, decent trip and the birds are no bad too :greengrin

[brydekirk]

When does the first round kick off. As its only just over three weeks till our game ?

[Bobby's Cinema]

Ahhhh the heady days when John Hughes showed his tacical genius by dropping the 52 goal pairing of Stokes and Riordan to play Colin Nish as our lone striker. Those were the days.:cb

A point I slurred at length to a confused Slovenian taxi driver!

[hfc rd]

Ahhhh the heady days when John Hughes showed his tacical genius by dropping the 52 goal pairing of Stokes and Riordan to play Colin Nish as our lone striker. Those were the days.:cb



And in the return leg, Edwin De Graaf showed his goal-scoring midfield prowess by scoring two goals on his ER debut. The only two goals we scored in our short-lived European adventure. :cb

[Jamesie]

It is being claimed on Bounce that we are at home for the 1st leg because we are not seeded. Can anyone confirm this?

Unless something changed in the last year I don't think this is the case - St Johnstone were unseeded last year yet played their Second Round 1st Leg away from home.

[SteveHFC]

Ahhhh the heady days when John Hughes showed his tacical genius by dropping the 52 goal pairing of Stokes and Riordan to play Colin Nish as our lone striker. Those were the days.:cb

And don't forget the rain after the game in Maribor. Was completely soaked :greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23019923


Hibs and Saints are unseeded sides in the Europa League second qualifying round draw.

Rubin Kazan, Standard Liege, Trabzonspor and Utrecht are some of the seeded teams Hibs or St Johnstone could be drawn against.



fond(albeit drunken) memories of Liege(FC)

[PatHead]

Uefa link attached http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=1965312.html . Gets you all excited whilst our neighbours get excited about avoiding bankruptcy.

[SteveHFC]

Uefa link attached http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=1965312.html . Gets you all excited whilst our neighbours get excited about avoiding bankruptcy.

Get the awful feeling we will get Maccabi Tel-Aviv :boo hoo:

[Jamesie]

Get the awful feeling we will get Maccabi Tel-Aviv :boo hoo:

Unlikely - at least without a few hours worth of interrogation - that I would be allowed into Israel with the stamps I have in my passport so would be giving this one a miss I think!

[jgl07]

I hope that's true. But were we not unseeded as well when we played Maribor back in 2010?

The draw determines who plays first at home not the seeding.

And Hibs (6.158) were seeded when they played Maribor (2.891) in the Third Qualifying round in 2010.

[Hibby91]

Hoping for an easy to get to tie not away in russia,ukraine or israel etc but knowing our luck ....

[Stringer]

I have a awful feeling we will get Rubin Kazan.

[PeterboroHibee]

Hoping we are at home for the second leg as Im back in Scotland that week and will make the game. Whoever we get is going to be a really tough game, wouldnt mind facing one of the 'bigger' sides.

[Spike Mandela]

St Patrick's please. A nice wee trip to Dublin to start.:cb

[Hibby91]

Do we find out tomorrow when the away and home legs will be ?

[JOD]

It is a UEFA policy that the seeded team always has the advantage of playing at home in the second leg in all their comps.

Now I read that somewhere but cannae mind where :confused: when I remember where I'LL post again. :confused:

[Hibs3-2]

It is going to be shown live on the UEFA website at 13:30 on Monday. See link below:

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=1965312.html
will that not be 12:30 our time?

[Jamesie]

will that not be 12:30 our time?

The draw starts at 13:30 CET but I think they do the Champions League qualifiers and 1st Round Europa first so the 2nd Round Europa takes palce at 14:30 CET - i.e. 13:30 our time. :thumbsup:

[jgl07]

It is a UEFA policy that the seeded team always has the advantage of playing at home in the second leg in all their comps.

Now I read that somewhere but cannae mind where :confused: when I remember where I'LL post again. :confused:

You have not read it anywhere because it is NOT TRUE.

[HiBremian]

I'll be in southern France when the ties are played. Looks like Dudelange in Luxembourg might be the nearest for me!

[Pretty Boy]

Hope we get a draw that's final tomorrow so I can get everything booked up

[Billy Whizz]

Hope we get a draw that's final tomorrow so I can get everything booked up

Can we?

[HiBremian]

Can we?

If we get a seeded team who are already in the 2nd round.

[Billy Whizz]

If we get a seeded team who are already in the 2nd round.

Ok, thought we would play the winners of a 1st round tie

[HiBremian]

Also a possibility.

The system does my head in as well, but this page expalins the seeding system:

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedel2013.html

It's laid out as if the seeded teams in the 1st round have all qualified to round 2, but explains that, if they lose their 1st round tie, the team that beats them takes the seeding status with them into the next round. The second round shows 80 teams, 40 seeded, including the "assumed" seeded winners from round 1. So, for example, if Hibernians of Malta beat Rosenburg in round 1, Malta Hibs go through to round 2 as a seeded team (and could play Hibs :-)

Hope that helps!

[1two]

Today I believe

What times the draw and can we watch it live?

[frazeHFC]

Today I believe

What times the draw and can we watch it live?

1.30pm our time and can be seen on the UEFA website, but not sure if thats a video or vidiprinter type thing.

[Keith_M]

I see the UEFA website has the words 'Qualifying draw signals start of the road to Turin', and accompanies it with a picture of... The Amsterdam Arena.


Very professional.

[scott7_0(Prague)]

Sparta please.

[Billy Whizz]

Sparta please.

How good are they?

[Makaveli]

I remember listening to the 2001/02 draw, sitting in 2nd year physics with a wee radio in my ear.

AEK was the nightmare draw in many ways: a very capable side, but hardly a glamorous one. Maribor was much the same.

For me, the best draw is the worst seed. Then the worst seed in the 3rd qual, then the worst seed in the play-off. Save the big boys for the group stages. :agree:

[scott7_0(Prague)]

How good are they?

It would be a tough tie, but not out our reach...

Sparta in the CZ league are good, but they really raise there game in Europe, held there own against Chelsea last year and Liverpool the season before.

[edinburghhibee]

Just home from Prague yesterday after a stag doo there and would love to get a Czech team as Prague is an amazing place.

[Craig_in_Prague]

Sparta or Liberec pls.

[Rocky]

I'm struggling to work out for sure when the draw actually is our time. According to UEFA site it's at 14.30 CET (which is GMT+1) but the CET time zone also moves clocks forward by an hour in the summer, right? So does it mean GMT +2?

Official Hibs site doesn't really help as it says the draw is at 1.30pm GMT - so does it mean 2.30pm BST??

Time zones and clock changes confuse me...

[Hermit Crab]

Sparta please.

Yes. Just flew back from Prague yesterday and would love to go back.

[Hermit Crab]

I'm struggling to work out for sure when the draw actually is our time. According to UEFA site it's at 14.30 CET (which is GMT+1) but the CET time zone also moves clocks forward by an hour in the summer, right? So does it mean GMT +2?

Official Hibs site doesn't really help as it says the draw is at 1.30pm GMT - so does it mean 2.30pm BST??

Time zones and clock changes confuse me...

Yes 13:30 here 14:30 over there.

[heretoday]

Yes. Just flew back from Prague yesterday and would love to go back.

Lovely place with an excellent tram system (once you have mastered it).

[Leishy1995]

Is it on tv anywhere?

[edinburghhibee]

Sparta or Liberec pls.

Craig cheers for all your info on Prague mate it was much appreciated and made the trip so much smoother.

[Hermit Crab]

Lovely place with an excellent tram system (once you have mastered it).

I just used my legs to get round. Wonderful place with no trouble at all.

[bingo70]

Celtc get cliftonville of Norn Ireland in champions league draw, could get a bit messy :rolleyes:

[NYHibby]

I'm struggling to work out for sure when the draw actually is our time. According to UEFA site it's at 14.30 CET (which is GMT+1) but the CET time zone also moves clocks forward by an hour in the summer, right? So does it mean GMT +2?

Official Hibs site doesn't really help as it says the draw is at 1.30pm GMT - so does it mean 2.30pm BST?

I would assume they mean 14:30 CEST and they wrote CET by mistake. That would be 13:30 BST.

CET is the same time as BST. Both are GMT+1

[Sylar]

Celtc get cliftonville of Norn Ireland in champions league draw, could get a bit messy :rolleyes:

An organised celebration of Irish Republicanism and rebel songs resonating across both ties.

[green.and.white]

Celtc get cliftonville of Norn Ireland in champions league draw, could get a bit messy :rolleyes:

The atmosphere at that game will be absolutely disgusting

[Hermit Crab]

Just home from Prague yesterday after a stag doo there and would love to get a Czech team as Prague is an amazing place.

I was there on a stag doo as well, flew home yesterday.

[Sylar]

The atmosphere at that game will be absolutely disgusting

Here's hoping both FARE and UEFA will be present at the game with working microphones and a set of balls to do something.

Somehow, I doubt the latter.

What's more, you can just bet that Linfield fans (or more political loyalist groups) will be proximal and looking for trouble.

[JMac]

Here is a link if anyone wants: uefa.to/14skLF4 (http://t.co/FBfW3BF95f)

[jgl07]

Here's hoping both FARE and UEFA will be present at the game with working microphones and a set of balls to do something.

Somehow, I doubt the latter.

What's more, you can just bet that Linfield fans (or more political loyalist groups) will be proximal and looking for trouble.

More likely Crusaders fans?

[scott7_0(Prague)]

just checking, our part of the draw is at 14.30 CET time. not 13:00.

[Sir David Gray]

I'm struggling to work out for sure when the draw actually is our time. According to UEFA site it's at 14.30 CET (which is GMT+1) but the CET time zone also moves clocks forward by an hour in the summer, right? So does it mean GMT +2?

Official Hibs site doesn't really help as it says the draw is at 1.30pm GMT - so does it mean 2.30pm BST??

Time zones and clock changes confuse me...

The website does say 1:30pm GMT but we're in BST just now which GMT+1 so that would mean it's at 2:30pm.

[scoopyboy]

Just noticed on UEFA web site that for the first round the teams have been split into tens, five seeds and five non seeds in each.

No second round groups as yet.

[Billy Whizz]

Saw that too. Dies that mean the seeded teams are playing against the unseeded teams on the Groups?

[Sylar]

More likely Crusaders fans?

I plumped for Linfield due to their close ties with Rangers and very protestant support base though I suppose Crusaders are their more bitter rivals.

[Sergio sledge]

Here is a link if anyone wants: uefa.to/14skLF4 (http://t.co/FBfW3BF95f)

Thanks, I just put that on and he said that they'll do the next phase of the draw in just over an hour, so 1.30pm.

[Billy Whizz]

Hibernian, 13th from the bottom

[edinburghhibee]

I was there on a stag doo as well, flew home yesterday.

We got the 2000 hours flight back to Edinburgh and there must have been 3or4 stag parties on the flight.

Our stage was McCluskey who were you with??

[Squealing pig]

Is it live on sky any1?

[Hermit Crab]

We got the 2000 hours flight back to Edinburgh and there must have been 3or4 stag parties on the flight.

Our stage was McCluskey who were you with??

Same flight mate. Out stag was macintosh. Flew out on Thursday on the 14:20.

[Sylar]

More likely Crusaders fans?

I've just spied that Crusaders are hosting a pre-season tournament at the same time, featuring none other than our city neighbours (assuming they're not deid by then).

The boat trips to and from NI could be chaos!

[Billy Whizz]

I've just spied that Crusaders are hosting a pre-season tournament at the same time, featuring none other than our city neighbours (assuming they're not deid by then).

The boat trips to and from NI could be chaos!

As long as we aren't over there the next day

[Squealing pig]

What time is the draw oor time?? No bothered abt any other time zone bar ours;)

[Billy Whizz]

What time is the draw oor time?? No bothered abt any other time zone bar ours;)

1.30pm Edinburgh time!

[Squealing pig]

1.30pm Edinburgh time!

Thank u first post I've understood. Mon the cabbage any1 from anywhere.

[hibee92]

1.30pm Edinburgh time!

He's Bo'ness though mate :greengrin

[Billy Whizz]

He's Bo'ness though mate :greengrin

Whatever

[Billy Whizz]

Now saying 1pm?

[Billy Whizz]

1st round draw now made seemingly

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2014/draws/index.html

[Jamesie]

1st round draw now made seemingly

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2014/draws/index.html

The video remained static throughout for me, and now it's being replayed?! So much for live streaming!

[Squealing pig]

He's Bo'ness though mate :greengrin

Lol so say 1.25

[Squealing pig]

Canny c jack on that link, no sausage

[Big_Franck]

1st round draw now made seemingly

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2014/draws/index.html

Wikipedia have updated their page with the 1st round draw now as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E2%80%9314_UEFA_Europa_League#Second_qualifyi ng_round

[Squealing pig]

So we got Rosenberg

[hibee92]

Whatever

Touchy.

[SteveHFC]

So we got Rosenberg

Source?

[Squealing pig]

Source?

Wiki link unless crusaders beat them in 1st round. Then well get them.

[Squealing pig]

Touchy.

You'd like that lol

[hibee92]

So we got Rosenberg

What?

[jgl07]

What?

It's a wind-up!

[Big_Franck]

So we got Rosenberg

No, our draw doesn't start until 13:30.

[Sergey]

The draw doesn't take place until 1.30 pm - What's this Rosenburg tosh about?

[Squealing pig]

what?

so we got rosenburg? That loud enough

[HibbyAl]

Wiki link unless crusaders beat them in 1st round. Then well get them.

the draw's not started yet! That's just a list of seeded and unseeded teams!!

[Billy Whizz]

No, our draw doesn't start until 13:30.

Yeah, but we might do

[Squealing pig]

That's who we're going to get then lol

[hibee92]

so we got rosenburg? That loud enough

Are you okay? Is someone with you?

[Squealing pig]

No bad like just wanna know who we get in the draw. Ill pm u first wee man to see if its ok to post lol

[hibee92]

No bad like just wanna know who we get in the draw. Ill pm u first wee man to see if its ok to post lol

walk it off kid.

[Squealing pig]

Np Shen

[flash]

No bad like just wanna know who we get in the draw. Ill pm u first wee man to see if its ok to post lol

Who said Oscar Wilde was dead?

[Squealing pig]

Who said Oscar Wilde was dead?

Gregg wylde's faither?

[Cabbage East]

Np Shen

Are you having some sort of breakdown?

[Squealing pig]

Are you having some sort of breakdown?

Y u ask ? Lol

[Squealing pig]

Y u ask ? Lol

Car is fine just ticked it over

[MyJo]

I think someone has been stealing mummy's "special juice" again :rolleyes:

[Part/Time Supporter]

The pots have been announced by the looks of the St Johnstone twitter a/c - they will get one of Metalurgs, Skopje, Rosenborg, Trabzonspor or Astana

Hibs are in a different group of the draw.

[IanM]

:faf::faf::faf:
Car is fine just ticked it over

[Pretty Boy]

Well, this thread took a strange turn.

[IanM]

The pots have been announced by the looks of the St Johnstone twitter a/c - they will get one of Metalurgs, Skopje, Rosenborg, Trabzonspor or Astana

Hibs are in a different group of the draw.

:confused: i thought hibs got rosenburg? :greengrin

[Sylar]

Well, this thread took a strange turn.

Seems perfectly normal to me based on .net experience :greengrin

[Billy Whizz]

The pots have been announced by the looks of the St Johnstone twitter a/c - they will get one of Metalurgs, Skopje, Rosenborg, Trabzonspor or Astana

Hibs are in a different group of the draw.

Nothing on screen yet to tell us

[cam75]

Is draw on radio or tv?

[PatHead]

Who did Hearts get?

[Thecat23]

I just read this page and I've no idea what is going on?!!! The draw is still 1:30 yeah?

[Billy Whizz]

I just read this page and I've no idea what is going on?!!! The draw is still 1:30 yeah?

Yup, seemingly

[PatHead]

I just read this page and I've no idea what is going on?!!! The draw is still 1:30 yeah?

Yes. It was a repeat of the first round draw just now

[Part/Time Supporter]

Nothing on screen yet to tell us

A guy representing St Johnstone (who must be at the draw itself) tweeted a photo of their section of the draw.

[JohnStephens91]

I just read this page and I've no idea what is going on?!!! The draw is still 1:30 yeah?

Someone's car is fine, that's all I've garnered :greengrin

[Makaveli]

Hibs pot will be known in next few minutes

Coverage - http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/celtic/230520-live-uefa-champions-league-and-europa-league-qualifying-round-draws/

Stream - http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2014/draws/index.html

[Bristolhibby]

The pots have been announced by the looks of the St Johnstone twitter a/c - they will get one of Metalurgs, Skopje, Rosenborg, Trabzonspor or Astana

Hibs are in a different group of the draw.

So what pot are we in?

J

[jonny]

Is draw on radio or tv?

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2014/draws/index.html

[KWJ]

Here we go!

[Part/Time Supporter]

So what pot are we in?

J

No idea, as I'm not there and UEFA haven't announced it in advance this time.

[LancashireHibby]

Stop chatting on and get on with it man!

[EH6 Hibby]

Yup, seemingly

Is that Boness time or Edinburgh time? :devil:

[JeMeSouviens]

Get on with it, baldy!

[hibs6270uk]

Haha how apt, mentioning the new financial fair play rules coming into affect :not worth:

[Treadstone]

Just me or the sound from the stage abysmal ?

[Jamesie]

Live video working now! :flag:

[hibbycraig]

Anyone got a link to a live stream?

[Treadstone]

Anyone got a link to a live stream?


http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2014/draws/index.html

[hibs6270uk]

Anyone got a link to a live stream?

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2014/draws/index.html

[VivaHiberña]

Anyone got a link to a live stream?


http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2014/draws/index.html:wink:

[Part/Time Supporter]

Milk turns quicker than these guys making a cup draw.

[SMAXXA]

Rubin Kazan in our pot? eeek

[MyJo]

we are in a group with rubin kazin :rolleyes:

[LancashireHibby]

I have no idea what is going on here!

[jgl07]

What a shambles.

No groups posted as yet.

Flaky video as well.

[KWJ]

1 Romania
2 Rubin Kazan
3 Slask Wroclaw
4 Dogheda/Malmo
5. Slovan liberec

We are 9

[keithkeith]

Is that not Malta Hibernians?

[bathhibby]

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2014/draws/index.html:wink:
My iPhone not getting the live streaming - bugger

[Part/Time Supporter]

Rubin Kazan in our pot? eeek

Slask Wroclaw, Malmo, Slovan Libercec and some other mob I can't spell or pronounce were the others.

[Treadstone]

Is that voice over genuine sounds like someone has just hijacked themselves in!

[Craig_in_Prague]

Slask Wroclaw, Malmo, Slovan Libercec and some other mob I can't spell or pronounce were the others.

oooh - Liberec please !!

[Leighonel]

1 Romania
2 Rubin Kazan
3 Slask Wroclaw
4 Dogheda/Malmo
5. Slovan liberec

We are 9

4 please

[Part/Time Supporter]

oooh - Liberec please !!

It's not them - Libercec got Skonto Riga.

[Jamesie]

oooh - Liberec please !!

Don't think we're playing any of the teams in our pot - the pots are just for to quicken the draw I think - whoever is in your pot will play the home / away leg at the same time as you?

[Part/Time Supporter]

Not the Romanians either.

One of Rubin or Malmo

[Billy Whizz]

Saints get Crusaders or Rosenborg

[MyJo]

saintees get rosenborg :aok:

[NYHibby]

Teams left for us:
2 Rubin Kazan
4 Dogheda/Malmo

[silverhibee]

Very confusing.

Just get on with the draw FFS.

[Sean1875]

Really hoping we can avoid Rubin Kazan..

[LancashireHibby]

Believe it or not, I'm relatively sure I know the bloke doing the voice over.

[KWJ]

It's either Rubin Kazan (BAWS) or the winner of Drogheda/Malmo

[NYHibby]

Dogheda/Malmo for us

[JeMeSouviens]

It's Drogheda or Malmo

[MyJo]

its droghdea or Malmo away leg first

[SteveHFC]

Drogheda or Malmo for us

[Benny Brazil]

Malmo

[Jamesie]

Drogheda or Malmo it is - a pain for those trying to plan a trip but the money must be on the Swedes!

[HibbyAl]

Home or away first?

[LancashireHibby]

Happy with that!! Shame the prices will be up by the time we know who we're playing!

[Leighonel]

4 please

cheers

[Seveno]

Drogheda United or Malmo

[Tollhouse Hibee]

looks like malmo

[Dashing Bob S]

Had a terrible dream that we drew Hearts. Obviously, with our derby record, I woke up in cold sweat. Then I remembered: "it's okay, you can't draw them, they'll be in CL." Phew, that was a relief.

[Sean1875]

Could be worse, fingers crossed for an upset in the first round though :agree:

[NYHibby]

Home or away first?

Away first, but I believe that is not 100% set in stone yet

[Vini1875]

Europa draw

[Benny Brazil]

Home or away first?

Away first

[Pretty Boy]

Could have been worse.

Pain in the erse for travel plans thougg.

[hibeenicol]

Not too bad a draw could of been a lot worse, hopefully Drogheda can win their tie.

:hibees:pfgwa

[jgl07]

Drogheda United or Malmo

Great. Hibs face a team in the middle of their season while barely into pre-season training!

[S4uzee]

Whats folks thoughts with that? Assume it will be malmo, anyone know what they are like?

[Craig_in_Prague]

baws.
nae trip for me.
hope we win... maybe next round !

[Cabbage East]

Malmo will maul Drogheda. This will be a tough one for us, should be a good trip though :thumbsup:

[Dashing Bob S]

A repeat of the last time we we played Malmo at ER would suit.

[Hibby Bairn]

Turin here we come. :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

Had a terrible dream that we drew Hearts. Obviously, with our derby record, I woke up in cold sweat. Then I remembered: "it's okay, you can't draw them, they'll be in CL." Phew, that was a relief.

:faf::faf:

Excellent draw IMO, either team relatively easy to get to and if Drogheda managed it (highly unlikely I would have thought) it would be a very easy journey.

[SteveHFC]

Surely Malmo will beat Drogheda?

[Ray_]

Away first, but I believe that is not 100% set in stone yet

1970, 3-2 in Sweden & 6-0 at ER, even Jim Blair got a couple in that game!

[brog]

If its Malmo there's lots of travel options. Fly to Copenhagen then take train over bridge is probably best. Ryanair's flights to Copenhagen actually land in Malmo!!

[Chuck Rhoades]

What date is the first leg?

[Pretty Boy]

What date is the away leg?

Think I might take a gamble and book flights to Sweden.

[hibby rae]

Great. Hibs face a team in the middle of their season while barely into pre-season training!

But we could have got Rubin Kazan so I'll take it.

[nic81]

Great. Hibs face a team in the middle of their season while barely into pre-season training!

I never get why people get so upset about this, they are supposed to be professional so shouldn't matter! Get intae them right from the start training or no training, surely haven't forgotten how to do their jobs! Ggtth!