Claros to return to Hibs?

[monktonharp]

not followed this thread, but is he off the books? no longer a Hibby? liked his goal but he's not scored for us. could live with that, as he is a class act.

[--------]

If hibs have a chance of taking Claros back, either on loan or permanently, I think it would be hard to say no to his quality.


If he wants to come back, and the Hondurans are OK about it, we'd better not say no. He's a very good player, and I'm hoping that the silence surrounding his status means good news at the end of the month ...

[Spike Mandela]

100% agree Claros is a class act! I genuinely couldn't think of a better midfield bar Celtic for quality in depth if we had

Claros
Thomson
Taiwo
Tudor jones
Craig
Harris
Robertson
Cairney
Vine if he plays winger..
Then you have youngsters such as horribine and Stanton who are getting bigged up!

Very good variety in that midfield that can mix it up. Play football and won't get walked over. IMO that midfield will win us games

Decent players on the face of it but still sadly lacking a creative central midfielder as per a Boozy or Latapy type. Perhaps Harris or one of the more skilfull guys could fill that role. What do you think?

[Unseen work]

Decent players on the face of it but still sadly lacking a creative central midfielder as per a Boozy or Latapy type. Perhaps Harris or one of the more skilfull guys could fill that role. What do you think?

Personally I think instead of having one of real quality on his day like zemmama but often disappeared he's going for more solid pros who can produce a bit of magic such as vine, Craig and hopefully see one more, also with Alex Harris I can see him being a major attacking threat for us

[Pedantic_Hibee]

If we resign Claros I'd cry tears of joy. I'd actually rather him than Sparky if it came down to a straight choice.

[green.and.white]

If we resign Claros I'd cry tears of joy. I'd actually rather him than Sparky if it came down to a straight choice.

That's crazy talk

[Pedantic_Hibee]

That's crazy talk

Not really. Sparky is a fantastic footballer and was out of this world last year. But, in the same token, it's easier to find a striker who can score as many goals as him in the SPL (McKay, Higdon for example) than it is to find a player like Claros on comparative budgets.

Claros is a truly outstanding footballer, immensely underrated. I championed him from the first game I saw him, you could just tell there was a footballer there who was on a different wavelength to everyone else, to the point where it made him look stupid.

Unfortunately, we'll maybe all collectively only realise just how good he was until we're forced to play without him in our starting line-up.

A poor man's Xavi in my eyes. Always stays on his feet, intercepts constantly, always makes himself available, always buys himself time and covers every blade of grass intricately picking passes and stitching everything together.

And no, I'm not Jorge Claros. Or his agent. I did get shot with a spud-gun back in 1993 though. That hurt. A lot.

[SlickShoes]

That's crazy talk

He's from Tranent, leave him be!

[Pedantic_Hibee]

He's from Tranent, leave him be!

:fenlon

:greengrin

[SlickShoes]

:fenlon

:greengrin

I still forget my location says Glasgow and not where I grew up in Edinburgh haha, so I can't talk about Tregnent!

[green.and.white]

Not really. Sparky is a fantastic footballer and was out of this world last year. But, in the same token, it's easier to find a striker who can score as many goals as him in the SPL (McKay, Higdon for example) than it is to find a player like Claros on comparative budgets.

Claros is a truly outstanding footballer, immensely underrated. I championed him from the first game I saw him, you could just tell there was a footballer there who was on a different wavelength to everyone else, to the point where it made him look stupid.

Unfortunately, we'll maybe all collectively only realise just how good he was until we're forced to play without him in our starting line-up.

A poor man's Xavi in my eyes. Always stays on his feet, intercepts constantly, always makes himself available, always buys himself time and covers every blade of grass intricately picking passes and stitching everything together.

And no, I'm not Jorge Claros. Or his agent. I did get shot with a spud-gun back in 1993 though. That hurt. A lot.

Don't get me wrong, I think Claros will be a loss this season, an absolute gem of a player. To say he would be a better addition to the squad we have now than Griffiths would be, in my opinion, is crazy. If Griffiths had signed for us, we would be challenging for top 3 next season, I'm not sure if Claros signing would make as big a difference. And is it easier to find a circa. 25 goal striker for an SPL club? So far in this window, we have seemingly struggled...

[hibs0666]

Claros is a truly outstanding footballer, immensely underrated. I championed him from the first game I saw him, you could just tell there was a footballer there who was on a different wavelength to everyone else, to the point where it made him look stupid.


Scott Brown is a truly outstanding footballer and showed Claros what it was all about in the cup final.

[Alex Trager]

Not really. Sparky is a fantastic footballer and was out of this world last year. But, in the same token, it's easier to find a striker who can score as many goals as him in the SPL (McKay, Higdon for example) than it is to find a player like Claros on comparative budgets.

Claros is a truly outstanding footballer, immensely underrated. I championed him from the first game I saw him, you could just tell there was a footballer there who was on a different wavelength to everyone else, to the point where it made him look stupid.

Unfortunately, we'll maybe all collectively only realise just how good he was until we're forced to play without him in our starting line-up.

A poor man's Xavi in my eyes. Always stays on his feet, intercepts constantly, always makes himself available, always buys himself time and covers every blade of grass intricately picking passes and stitching everything together.

And no, I'm not Jorge Claros. Or his agent. I did get shot with a spud-gun back in 1993 though. That hurt. A lot.

I agree with all this. I also thought he was a class act from the word go.
I'd maybe say I'd prefer SLG and JC to be honest.

Leigh's goals will be hard to find.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Scott Brown is a truly outstanding footballer and showed Claros what it was all about in the cup final.

Every player can have an off-game, it just so happens that unfortunately Claros saved his for the final (and even then he wasn't all that bad).

[Alex Trager]

Scott Brown is a truly outstanding footballer and showed Claros what it was all about in the cup final.

I think I disagree. Brown has better players around him and that's a big plus. If you look at the games we've played against them this season, whenever things haven't went browns way he's up on his feet squaring up to Claros after he's put a tackle of Scott brown type into the usual perpetrator. Not saying he's a poor footballer just that I don't think he taught Claros a lesson. Never will either

[sesoim]

Great finish! Would love him back but even if we dont will always love him for his time here!


Pity he couldn't score for us.

[sesoim]

If we resign Claros I'd cry tears of joy. I'd actually rather him than Sparky if it came down to a straight choice.



One of the most bizarre things I've ever read on Hibs net. A straight choice between someone who can score and make loads of goals himself, or a supremely overrated player who spent most of his time making easy passes, often back to the player he just passed the ball to him.

Griffiths is a player who can win matches out of nothing. Claros at best is the type of player I'd want when we are trying to keep the ball. There are loads of players like that out there.

[sesoim]

Not really. Sparky is a fantastic footballer and was out of this world last year. But, in the same token, it's easier to find a striker who can score as many goals as him in the SPL (McKay, Higdon for example) than it is to find a player like Claros on comparative budgets.

Claros is a truly outstanding footballer, immensely underrated. I championed him from the first game I saw him, you could just tell there was a footballer there who was on a different wavelength to everyone else, to the point where it made him look stupid.

Unfortunately, we'll maybe all collectively only realise just how good he was until we're forced to play without him in our starting line-up.

A poor man's Xavi in my eyes. Always stays on his feet, intercepts constantly, always makes himself available, always buys himself time and covers every blade of grass intricately picking passes and stitching everything together.

And no, I'm not Jorge Claros. Or his agent. I did get shot with a spud-gun back in 1993 though. That hurt. A lot.


If Claros was so great, then why were we so poor in probably the weakest SPL ever? That doesn't say much for all of Fenlon's other signings. And none of the attributes of his that you mention actually win games (eg creating chances, scoring goals). He usually passed the buck to other players. And never have I saw a game where he ever came close to covering every blade of grass.

I'm not saying Claros is a poor player, but he certainly wasn't anything special either. As I said before, there's plenty of players that can come in and do exactly the same water carrying role - and most of them can probably do other things on top of that that Claros couldn't do.

[blackpoolhibs]

One of the most bizarre things I've ever read on Hibs net. A straight choice between someone who can score and make loads of goals himself, or a supremely overrated player who spent most of his time making easy passes, often back to the player he just passed the ball to him.

Griffiths is a player who can win matches out of nothing. Claros at best is the type of player I'd want when we are trying to keep the ball. There are loads of players like that out there.

I'd prefer Griffiths if it was a choice between Claros and Griffiths, mainly because what you say about Leigh, but i think you do Claros a real disservice.

Claros is much more than a player who gives an easy pass, he's up there with the best i have seen at getting the ball back from the opposition in my time watching Hibs.

[patlowe]

One of the most bizarre things I've ever read on Hibs net. A straight choice between someone who can score and make loads of goals himself, or a supremely overrated player who spent most of his time making easy passes, often back to the player he just passed the ball to him.

Griffiths is a player who can win matches out of nothing. Claros at best is the type of player I'd want when we are trying to keep the ball. There are loads of players like that out there.

I agree that it's difficult to put Claros ahead of Griffiths in terms of importance but I completely disagree with the bits in bold. If anything he was supremely underrated until the latter part of the season, culminating in his dominance of the 2-1 derby at Tynie. As for there being loads of players like him, I can think of plenty imitators (Deegan for example) but few at his standard that we could afford. I don't think we are suggesting he is the new Pele, just appreciative of an international-class midfielder and hopeful that we can retain his services.

[Scouse Hibee]

One of the most bizarre things I've ever read on Hibs net. A straight choice between someone who can score and make loads of goals himself, or a supremely overrated player who spent most of his time making easy passes, often back to the player he just passed the ball to him.

Griffiths is a player who can win matches out of nothing. Claros at best is the type of player I'd want when we are trying to keep the ball. There are loads of players like that out there.

You really want to try watching Claros more closely as you've missed plenty.

[CapitalHibs]

Anyone see the documentary on Honduras on Ch4? Only caught a bit of it but given the strife caused by the drug wars its hardly surprising folks are looking for one way tickets outta there.


Classified now I believe as one of the most dangerous countries in the world.

[lumbo_hfc]

If we resign Claros I'd cry tears of joy. I'd actually rather him than Sparky if it came down to a straight choice.

Hahaha, good one! :rolleyes:


Every player can have an off-game, it just so happens that unfortunately Claros saved his for the final (and even then he wasn't all that bad).

he was all that bad in the final then had a kick at brown because he couldn't get close to him all day!

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Would like to see Claros back, but is he really as good as some are making him out to be on here?

He doesn't come close to a Boozy, or Thommo in the Mowbray era IMO. Maybe Antonio Murray or Craig Rocastle....

[SaulGoodman]

Would like to see Claros back, but is he really as good as some are making him out to be on here?

He doesn't come close to a Boozy, or Thommo in the Mowbray era IMO. Maybe Antonio Murray or Craig Rocastle....

But we're not in the Mowbray era.

I don't know what happens to this site during close season but all of a sudden players 'aren't good enough' when during the season they were superb.

Fwiw I think we have the poorest fan base when it comes to supporting out own players. Tin hat on of course.

[SaulGoodman]

If Claros was so great, then why were we so poor in probably the weakest SPL ever? That doesn't say much for all of Fenlon's other signings. And none of the attributes of his that you mention actually win games (eg creating chances, scoring goals). He usually passed the buck to other players. And never have I saw a game where he ever came close to covering every blade of grass.

I'm not saying Claros is a poor player, but he certainly wasn't anything special either. As I said before, there's plenty of players that can come in and do exactly the same water carrying role - and most of them can probably do other things on top of that that Claros couldn't do.

You come on here once every few weeks and all you do is post **** about your own team.

Give up

[patlowe]

Would like to see Claros back, but is he really as good as some are making him out to be on here?

He doesn't come close to a Boozy, or Thommo in the Mowbray era IMO. Maybe Antonio Murray or Craig Rocastle....

Boozy was absolutely outstanding for a period in Mowbray's first season and quite inconsistent otherwise. An excellent signing but not necessarily fair to compare to Claros given the standard of the two sides they played in. Similarly for Thomson, he was/is(?) a very good midfielder but had the luxury of being surrounded by top players. Antonio Murray...:greengrin

[Bishop Hibee]

Claros would be a better signing than Thomson but with Taiwo having what I thought was an impressive end to the season I'm not too worried if we don't get him. Saying he is better than Griffiths is laughable though.

[snooky]

But we're not in the Mowbray era.

I don't know what happens to this site during close season but all of a sudden players 'aren't good enough' when during the season they were superb.

Fwiw I think we have the poorest fan base when it comes to supporting out own players. Tin hat on of course.

The fans are great - it's just the team that's crap.

:wink: :stirrer:

[MagicSwirlingShip]

But we're not in the Mowbray era.

I don't know what happens to this site during close season but all of a sudden players 'aren't good enough' when during the season they were superb.

Fwiw I think we have the poorest fan base when it comes to supporting out own players. Tin hat on of course.

Fair.

If Claros played in that Midfield he probably would show us all how talented he is.

Never said he "wasn't good enough" - just not worthy of the superlatives being afforded to him on here.

If he comes back, great, if not, no biggie. IMO!

[SaulGoodman]

Fair.

If Claros played in that Midfield he probably would show us all how talented he is.

Never said he "wasn't good enough" - just not worthy of the superlatives being afforded to him on here.

If he comes back, great, if not, no biggie. IMO!

Sorry I wasn't clear. The first part was for you.

The last two paragraphs were for other people :wink:

[Pedantic_Hibee]

I wasn't suggesting Claros was a better player than Griffiths. For a start, they're different players in different positions with completely different abilities.

What I did say was that if it were to come down to a straight choice between signing Sparky or Claros, I'd take Claros for the reasons stated above.

[hibsbollah]

I wasn't suggesting Claros was a better player than Griffiths. For a start, they're different players in different positions with completely different abilities.

What I did say was that if it were to come down to a straight choice between signing Sparky or Claros, I'd take Claros for the reasons stated above.

You're spot on. Claros is similarly important to the team as Griffiths is.

[The_Exile]

Folk comparing Claros to Boozy, it's like comparing chalk and cheese, Claros will never be able to even dream of pulling off some of the stuff Boozy did, but they are COMPLETELY different types of players. Boozy was a showman and I loved him to bits, Claros is a superior team and defensive player, he is NOT in the team to go on mazy dribbles, pick out defence splitting passes and scord goals. Is it just me???!!!!!! Ask any manager who they'd rather have in their team and Claros would win by a landslide, it's about winning games.

The proof will be in his next move, I will be amazed if he's not playing at a higher level next year as to me, he sticks out like a sore thumb in this league.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

The above. Spot on.

[Thecat23]

Folk comparing Claros to Boozy, it's like comparing chalk and cheese, Claros will never be able to even dream of pulling off some of the stuff Boozy did, but they are COMPLETELY different types of players. Boozy was a showman and I loved him to bits, Claros is a superior team and defensive player, he is NOT in the team to go on mazy dribbles, pick out defence splitting passes and scord goals. Is it just me???!!!!!! Ask any manager who they'd rather have in their team and Claros would win by a landslide, it's about winning games.

The proof will be in his next move, I will be amazed if he's not playing at a higher level next year as to me, he sticks out like a sore thumb in this league.

100% This. Loved Boozy as well but would take Claros every time. He's going to be a very good player.

[Judas Iscariot]

Claros is a class act IMO, said it even in his 1st dodgy spell that it was obvious ther was a player in there...

Would be a superb coup if we signed him seeing as we've got KT, LC & OTJ all signed up..

[Holmesdale Hibs]

You're spot on. Claros is similarly important to the team as Griffiths is.

I've nothing against Claros but I think you're giving him more credit than he deserves. He's a decent player n that but definitely replaceable and nowhere near LG in terms of importance to the team.

We'll be doing well to find someone who scores anything like the number of goals Griffiths did. Without LG's goals we'd have been at least 2 or 3 places further down the league. Can't see how Claros, or anyone else for that matter, made such an important contribution.

[alan1875]

100% This. Loved Boozy as well but would take Claros every time. He's going to be a very good player.

Sorry gents, I really really like Claros and would defend him to the hilt to friends and family even in his first 6months when he was finding his feet and in consistent BUT... Boozy is possibly my favourite Hibs player skill, bite, flair and a bit of swagger he had it all...

Would take Claros back in a heartbeat though!!!

[GlenrothesHibee]

Boozy was absolutely outstanding for a period in Mowbray's first season and quite inconsistent otherwise. An excellent signing but not necessarily fair to compare to Claros given the standard of the two sides they played in. Similarly for Thomson, he was/is(?) a very good midfielder but had the luxury of being surrounded by top players. Antonio Murray...:greengrin

Boozy was a class act. Does anyone remember David Begg suggesting he should be called up by France? Far fetched but excellent player

[Mon Dieu4]

Boozy was immense, one of my favourite Hibs moments of all time was him destroying Lennon twice in the space of 5 seconds

Claros is a completely different type of player and possible the best defensive midfielder I've seen us have, would be absolutely delighted if we can keep him

[Billychaotic182]

So is he signing for us or not?

[Barrabus]

Boozy was immense, one of my favourite Hibs moments of all time was him destroying Lennon twice in the space of 5 seconds

Claros is a completely different type of player and possible the best defensive midfielder I've seen us have, would be absolutely delighted if we can keep him
Agreed - his ability to read what the opposing player is going to do with the ball is very impressive as is his workrate. Think he's a bit shot-shy, (as is Thomson - hence our toothless performance in the cup final) but would love to see him stay. Mind you, that goal he scored for Honduras in the last minute recently made him look like a natural goal-scoring midfielder!

[Stonewall]

If we resign Claros I'd cry tears of joy. I'd actually rather him than Sparky if it came down to a straight choice.

Er, resign or re-sign Mr Pedant.

[Bay Area Hibees]

But we're not in the Mowbray era.

I don't know what happens to this site during close season but all of a sudden players 'aren't good enough' when during the season they were superb.

Fwiw I think we have the poorest fan base when it comes to supporting out own players. Tin hat on of course.


I totally agree with you and believe its a big issue. Too many experts in the stands that don't give players full support.

[Purehibee_MYB]

I totally agree with you and believe its a big issue. Too many experts in the stands that don't give players full support.


I'd tend to agree too. It can't just be a coincidence that quite a lot of players leave us as failures and go on to look a lot better for a different team.

[MWHIBBIES]

One of the most bizarre things I've ever read on Hibs net. A straight choice between someone who can score and make loads of goals himself, or a supremely overrated player who spent most of his time making easy passes, often back to the player he just passed the ball to him.

Griffiths is a player who can win matches out of nothing. Claros at best is the type of player I'd want when we are trying to keep the ball. There are loads of players like that out there.Your ignorance actually hurts me.

[nonshinyfinish]

Er, resign or re-sign Mr Pedant.

Re-sign indeed. Top, top pedantry.

[hibsbollah]

Your ignorance actually hurts me.

:hilarious

[greenflyer]

Honduras V Costa Rica. Quarter Final Gold Cup. ESPN Midnight.
Claros would not be available until Honduras is finished with this tournament.:flag:

[madabouthibs]

Claros playing well, seems to play a very dominant role for Honduras, bossing the midfield too. We'll miss him next season.
Some stadium tae!! ;-)

[matty_f]

Claros playing well, seems to play a very dominant role for Honduras, bossing the midfield too. We'll miss him next season.
Some stadium tae!! ;-)

He's been good so far, would love to have him back at Easter Road next season.

[PerfectlyFranck]

He's been good so far, would love to have him back at Easter Road next season.

As good as he was for us, I'd sooner we signed a good striker.
We have an army of central midfielders as it is.

[matty_f]

As good as he was for us, I'd sooner we signed a good striker.
We have an army of central midfielders as it is.

You can't have too many good players. Claros would be a starting 11 midfielder if he was at the club now, so I'd get him back if we can. I reckon we'll sign a striker regardless.

[PerfectlyFranck]

You can't have too many good players. Claros would be a starting 11 midfielder if he was at the club now, so I'd get him back if we can. I reckon we'll sign a striker regardless.

You can be paying too much money on wages and too much on transfer fees though.
If signing Claros inhibited who we signed as a striker then I'd sooner make-do with the army already at our disposal.

[hfc rd]

Jorge ain't going to be short of any offers from other clubs for his services after his performances for Honduras.

[Heisenberg]

@RaeComm: Bit of buzz in the USA about Jorge Claros, a player I've seen a lot in last 18 months at Hibs. On radar of MLS clubs.

@RaeComm: Sporting Kansas City linked with Claros. Struggled at first in SPL but much better last season. Neat and tidy midfield player.

[OrdHibby]

I thought he would have been a priorty. Love team players, the guys who do all the donkey work and never complain. Give me a Claros over a selfish player any day.

[Paisley Hibby]

I thought he would have been a priorty. Love team players, the guys who do all the donkey work and never complain. Give me a Claros over a selfish player any day.

Agree with this. However, like Griffiths, he's probably become too good for our budget.

[Frazerbob]

Honduras playing USA on ESPN in 10 minutes.

[carnoustiehibee]

Claros injured?

[Frazerbob]

Claros injured?

He's in the starting 11.

[Dibben]

Ok. So Honduras are out!

Chances of a announcement that Claros has signed on at ER permanently???

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Ok. So Honduras are out!

Chances of a announcement that Claros has signed on at ER permanently???

Would love him back. Few clubs in the MLS interested though...

[Callum_62]

Ok. So Honduras are out!

Chances of a announcement that Claros has signed on at ER permanently???

Probably very slim - id love him back tho.

[sundo1875]

Claros is going to Sporting Kansas City.

[Vault Boy]

Claros is going to Sporting Kansas City.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/07/24/sporting-kansas-city-making-run-honduran-jorge-claros-say-deal-not-even-clos

Claros said he'd consider his options, including Kansas, but City themselves say it isn't close to happening.

[YehButNoBut]

Claros is going to Sporting Kansas City.

Does the MLS not finish at the end of October, would seem strange to move there at this stage of the season with only around 3 months left.

Sporting Kansas City seemingly have shown an interest but nothing else, see quote below from their manager Vermess.

“Do we like him? Yeah, we like him,” Vermes said. “I just don't know if it's the right fit for us. So could you say that we've inquired? Yeah, we have. But we're not even close to anything that's worth talking about.”

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/07/24/sporting-kansas-city-making-run-honduran-jorge-claros-say-deal-not-even-clos

[NYHibby]

Does the MLS not finish at the end of October, would seem strange to move there at this stage of the season with only around 3 months left.


The MLS Cup final is on 7 December this year, and KC is almost certainly going to make the playoffs.

For comparison, I would imagine that this part of the Honduran season ends around the same time. So I don't think this will factor into Claros's decision.

[Pete]

Bump.

I want Claros back.

[Pretty Boy]

Missed him big time last night.

I doubt Malmo would have strolled through our midfield as easily with Claros breaking up the play.

[stuart62]

Why was Claros listed as Hibs no 8 in the official programme for last nights game ?

[Heedersnvolleys]

Why was Claros listed as Hibs no 8 in the official programme for last nights game ?

Did Robertson not have 8 on last night?

[hibee_girl]

Did Robertson not have 8 on last night?

Yes

[stuart62]

Looks like a printing error then, was reading too much into this, more in hope probably

[hibs0666]

Why was Claros listed as Hibs no 8 in the official programme for last nights game ?

Just another Hibs error on a night of them.

[Leishy1995]

Jorge Claros would have been at home in their team.

[lugz]

Bump.

I want Claros back.

Me 2

[Andy74]

Jorge Claros would have been at home in their team.

Yeah, the only recent player close to that type of ability and class.

Loved their wee number 10, there must be some about in the Latapy/Zemmama style even if not quite as good?

[blackpoolhibs]

We saw our replacement last night in Thomson, a player who can hardly get about a football pitch these days. Thomson will patrol the area just in front of the back 4 this season, slowly and will spray the odd good ball to both full backs now and then.

[Leishy1995]

Yeah, the only recent player close to that type of ability and class.

Loved their wee number 10, there must be some about in the Latapy/Zemmama style even if not quite as good?

Our number 10 Liam Craig was stuck out wide despite him playing that role all last season

[Finbar]

Thomson was our best player last night FWIW. If Claros comes back I think we need to let one our two go from centre midfield, Robertson or Taiwo maybe?

[calumb]

Our number 10 Liam Craig was stuck out wide despite him playing that role all last season

I feared Hibs would do that as soon as we signed him and then question why he was better when he played for st J

[Billy Whizz]

We saw our replacement last night in Thomson, a player who can hardly get about a football pitch these days. Thomson will patrol the area just in front of the back 4 this season, slowly and will spray the odd good ball to both full backs now and then.

BH, is that not where Tudor Jones plays as well. Do we need 2 players who play the same position?

[bigwheel]

a player who can hardly get about a football pitch these days. .

....you may not rate him as a player these days, but that analysis is just nasty and factually incorrect

[patlowe]

I think the majority realise what we have lost in Claros but we have to accept that it's extremely unlikely he'll come back. As soon as he was properly settled he was head and shoulders above our other options in midfield.

[blackpoolhibs]

....you may not rate him as a player these days, but that analysis is just nasty and factually incorrect

I rated him as a superb player when he was first in our team, he's a pale imitation of that player now.

[jax67]

Sorely miss Claros in midfield, he holds players off
until he sees a pass. Last night was a huge backward
step for our midfield, the ball was a hot tattie. All the passing
back to the keeper too, and it just gets launched back to the
opposition. Am seek o it!!

[Leishy1995]

Watching Jorge Claros play, it's going to be interesting to see where he ends up. He has the talent but in sure he won't be a name most teams down south would pick up on.

[Allant1981]

I rated him as a superb player when he was first in our team, he's a pale imitation of that player now.

he isnt really doing much different to what he done then though, he is/was never going to go on big mazy runs, he was always late in going into a tackle, and he couldnt really tackle anyway. He simply calms thinhs down and plays an easy pass, which sometimes we dont need but thats how he plays

[blackpoolhibs]

he isnt really doing much different to what he done then though, he is/was never going to go on big mazy runs, he was always late in going into a tackle, and he couldnt really tackle anyway. He simply calms thinhs down and plays an easy pass, which sometimes we dont need but thats how he plays

No chance he's anywhere near the player he was back then, he cant keep up with runners anymore.

He did get forward 1st time round, remember his goal against celtic?

I agree he would always put the odd daft tackle in like he did last night, BUT he was at least a yard quicker and marked his man properly. Now he just watches them go by him as if he's not there.

[easty]

We saw our replacement last night in Thomson, a player who can hardly get about a football pitch these days. Thomson will patrol the area just in front of the back 4 this season, slowly and will spray the odd good ball to both full backs now and then.

Thomson will be our player of the year this season.

[blackpoolhibs]

Thomson will be our player of the year this season.


And i will be crowned Mr universe the day after bedding Cheryl Cole and Jennifer Aniston.

[easty]

And i will be crowned Mr universe the day after bedding Cheryl Cole and Jennifer Aniston.

Well we'll see.

By the way, I'm the current Mr Universe, where should I deliver the crown?

[sundo1875]

Sorry if already posted but looks like decision for claros to be made shortly

@cswearngin: Honduran media reporting that an announcement on Jorge Claros signing with MLS or returning on loan to Scotland will be made in a few hours.

[bigwheel]

No chance he's anywhere near the player he was back then, he cant keep up with runners anymore.

He did get forward 1st time round, remember his goal against celtic?

I agree he would always put the odd daft tackle in like he did last night, BUT he was at least a yard quicker and marked his man properly. Now he just watches them go by him as if he's not there.


Hi never went forward that much last time. One goals I think. He had a shot last night... I would accept he has lost a bit of pace as a result of his injuries. You are implying that he has lost the legs to compete for 90 mins. I think that is nonsense. If he avoids any major injury, I expect him to be one of our higher performers this season.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Sorry if already posted but looks like decision for claros to be made shortly

@cswearngin: Honduran media reporting that an announcement on Jorge Claros signing with MLS or returning on loan to Scotland will be made in a few hours.

Please come back to hibs Jorge.

[hibee_girl]

Sorry if already posted but looks like decision for claros to be made shortly

@cswearngin: Honduran media reporting that an announcement on Jorge Claros signing with MLS or returning on loan to Scotland will be made in a few hours.

:pray:

[Heisenberg]

He'd be a fantastic signing. Would make the signing of Thomson look a tad pointless though.

[bingo70]

He'd be a fantastic signing. Would make the signing of Thomson look a tad pointless though.

Not really, without claros we're down to our last 43 defensive midfielders, we could probably do with another couple.

[Bostonhibby]

BH, is that not where Tudor Jones plays as well. Do we need 2 players who play the same position?

OTJ probably seen enough in the first leg to say your not using me in the return, joking aside, last night proved for me again what a good player Claros is for us, I want him back.


Oh and hands up who thought Craig was played in his best position?

[Heisenberg]

OTJ probably seen enough in the first leg to say your not using me in the return, joking aside, last night proved for me again what a good player Claros is for us, I want him back.


Oh and hands up who thought Craig was played in his best position?

Not me. Play him in the middle and he could be the attacking threat that we need from the centre of the park.

[coco22]

OTJ probably seen enough in the first leg to say your not using me in the return, joking aside, last night proved for me again what a good player Claros is for us, I want him back.


Oh and hands up who thought Craig was played in his best position?

Would welcome Jorge back with open arms as I think he would be even better this season (and sorely missed if he doesn't return).

And Craig was one of many played in the wrong position last night. He should be central and attacking. St J used him effectively in the air, pushing on to a small full backs for aerial challenges (towell?) against us

[Leishy1995]

OTJ probably seen enough in the first leg to say your not using me in the return, joking aside, last night proved for me again what a good player Claros is for us, I want him back.


Oh and hands up who thought Craig was played in his best position?

That's another annoying thing, Liam Craig is an inside forward, he looks best in a free role to be honest and then he joins hibs and is a placeless winger, similar to Cairney.

[blackpoolhibs]

Well we'll see.

By the way, I'm the current Mr Universe, where should I deliver the crown?

Just send it on to Cheryl for me to pick up later. :wink:

[Billy McKirdy]

Can someone please delete this thread please, it's obvious he's not coming back at all and depressing seeing this thread bumped up the list every day :confused:

[neil7908]

Claros was comfortably our 2nd best player last year but even if he was available, I dont think we should bring him back. We have about 6 players you can operate in CM, and 3 in Thomson, Taiwo and OTJ who are similar to Claros.

I think he's a cracking player who will be missed at ER but we needs to focus resources in other areas urgently.

All the best Jorge, thanks for some great performances at ER - maybe we'll see you in a year when your contract is up!

[Sanger]

Claros was comfortably our 2nd best player last year but even if he was available, I dont think we should bring him back. We have about 6 players you can operate in CM, and 3 in Thomson, Taiwo and OTJ who are similar to Claros.

I think he's a cracking player who will be missed at ER but we needs to focus resources in other areas urgently.

All the best Jorge, thanks for some great performances at ER - maybe we'll see you in a year when your contract is up!
Claros was the clue that held Hibs together last season without him we'll fall apart.

[blackpoolhibs]

Claros was the clue that held Hibs together last season without him we'll fall apart.

I agree, now we dont have a clue. :boo hoo:

[snooky]

I agree, now we dont have a clue. :boo hoo:

:top marks :greengrin

[YehButNoBut]

Is he coming back or not??

C ‏@cswearngin Honduran media reporting that an announcement on Jorge Claros signing with MLS or returning on loan to Scotland will be made in a few hours.


SPL Transfer Rumours (https://www.facebook.com/pages/SPL-Transfer-Rumours/142266835878101?ref=stream&hc_location=stream)
Jorge Claros could be set for a move back to hibs

[Part/Time Supporter]

Is he coming back or not??

C ‏@cswearngin Honduran media reporting that an announcement on Jorge Claros signing with MLS or returning on loan to Scotland will be made in a few hours.


SPL Transfer Rumours (https://www.facebook.com/pages/SPL-Transfer-Rumours/142266835878101?ref=stream&hc_location=stream)
Jorge Claros could be set for a move back to hibs


His source appears to be a sports journalist in Honduras.

https://twitter.com/kcoelloDIEZ

"En pocas horas también se hará oficial el pase de Jorge Claros a la MLS o su regreso a Escocia. También Mario Martínez está en negociación."

Which google tells me is "In a few hours will also be official by Jorge Claros to MLS or his return to Scotland. Mario Martinez is also under negotiation."

Mind, he tweeted that this time yesterday, with nothing further since. So he could be the Honduran Barry Anderson for all I know.

:greengrin

[down-the-slope]

It would be a great signing if we can get him back loan or permanent - hope his wifes love of the city means he digs his heels in for coming here...had kind of given up of that happening..so hope its not false hope...

[davieh]

It would be a great signing if we can get him back loan or permanent - hope his wifes love of the city means he digs his heels in for coming here...had kind of given up of that happening..so hope its not false hope...

Completely agree....but just can't see it happening. If there was a chance that it was a go-er, we wouldn't have signed Thomson and Tudor Jones surely?

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

Your kidding??

What a waste. Claris was great but we already have defensive midfielders that have absolutely no pace and can't score goals (Thomson & Taiwo).

I would think what we could do with is a little pace and creativity as was highlighted on Thursday. On countless occasions our players were brushed aside or embarrassed by heir lack of pace. Claros would not help our current predicament.

I've mentioned this before but I wonder how many of the Hibs team are on structured weights programmes? I would also be interested as to how much sprint training they do. This is not just 30m stuff, but distances like 100m, 150m or 200m that enhance their athleticism? Based on what I've seen very little.


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[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Hope this is true "@Scott_mckinnon1: claros to sign for hibs in next 72 hours! thank god"

[jeffers]

Hope this is true "@Scott_mckinnon1: claros to sign for hibs in next 72 hours! thank god"
I think Claros is an excellent player, along with Griffiths and Williams our best performer last season, and if we hadn't signed Thomson and OTJ would have loved him to come back, but please no. No matter how good a player the last position we need to fill is central midfield.

[scoopyboy]

Hope this is true "@Scott_mckinnon1: claros to sign for hibs in next 72 hours! thank god"

Who is Scott McKinnon?

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Who is Scott McKinnon?

Just someone I follow on Twitter, I've asked him how he knows but he ain't got back to me. Just hope its true.

[OrdHibby]

I think Claros is an excellent player, along with Griffiths and Williams our best performer last season, and if we hadn't signed Thomson and OTJ would have loved him to come back, but please no. No matter how good a player the last position we need to fill is central midfield.

If a player is better than whats there you have to go for him. Claros plays the game as it should be played therefor he's a must as is a new manager. KT TT & JC are a must pick. The rest can fight for the last 2 positions if Fenlon remains in charge with his 5 in the midfield tactics.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Ah those time related pieces of info.
Countdown clock for reeling folks in IMO. Why 72 hours?
Here's a question for folks - does a player have to physically sign or can it be done remotely? Is a fax not acceptable from a legal perspective?

[Beefster]

I love Claros but considering how many midfielders we have, including a couple who do exactly the same sort of thing as him, he'd be a waste of a wage that could be spent on a central defender or striker.

[Just_Jimmy]

Claros is a million times better than thomson and tawio (the latter is a decent option and works hard). OTJ may be a good player for hibs yet but claros has already proven himself.

Give me Claros everytime over any other player at the club right now.

[jeffers]

Claros is a million times better than thomson and tawio (the latter is a decent option and works hard). OTJ may be a good player for hibs yet but claros has already proven himself.

Give me Claros everytime over any other player at the club right now.
I've already said what I think of Claros as a player, but for those wanting him to sign, if it means we can't sign another striker, or creative player or central defender do you still want him ?

[OrdHibby]

I love Claros but considering how many midfielders we have, including a couple who do exactly the same sort of thing as him, he'd be a waste of a wage that could be spent on a central defender or striker.

Do you really think so. They may well try to but they hell they sure as hell don't. I personally think Craig and OTJ were mistakes when KT and Jorge should have been priorities. Why we never went for Ritchie Britton instead of Craig & OTD beggars belief. Ritchie used to train at Hibs as a laddie and has in recent years shown why an old buddy who had him at Boghall said he was the best he'd ever had. Still spilt milk 'n' awe that.

[jeffers]

Do you really think so. They may well try to but they hell they sure as hell don't. I personally think Craig and OTJ were mistakes when KT and Jorge should have been priorities. Why we never went for Ritchie Britton instead of Craig & OTD beggars belief. Ritchie used to train at Hibs as a laddie and has in recent years shown why an old buddy who had him at Boghall said he was the best he'd ever had. Still spilt milk 'n' awe that.
Craig was a mistake ?? Seriously ? What do you base that on ? A stand-out for a team that regularly finished above us, a goal-scoring midfielder we've been sadly lacking for years is a mistake. Have you ever seen him play ?

[Just_Jimmy]

I've already said what I think of Claros as a player, but for those wanting him to sign, if it means we can't sign another striker, or creative player or central defender do you still want him ?

I want good players. Give me one guareteed player we'd miss out on if we brought Claros back?

The fact is Claros is a better option than any other player we have in midfield.

Craig never impressed me at falkirk or ST J. He certainly didnt impress me on Thursday and how good is OTJ? Hooked in the first leg and cant even get on the pitch in a 7-0 drubbing? More mediocre pish no doubt. Perhaps i'm being slightly unfair.

Claros, a striker and a Centre half should be the MINIMUM we bring in. I'd also expect a right back and a winger.

We'll get 2. MAYBE.

[OrdHibby]

Craig was a mistake ?? Seriously ? What do you base that on ? A stand-out for a team that regularly finished above us, a goal-scoring midfielder we've been sadly lacking for years is a mistake. Have you ever seen him play ?

Where do you base that on. A bit part player at Falkirk and the same again at St Johnstone. Always looked good against Hibs because of the effort he put in, and it WAS only Hibs. Have a guess why.
I watched him at Starks park and he never got back once. He only wants to go forward but he's work shy. He'll show effort just now at his new club and hopefully prove me wrong but i reckon he'll be found out well before christmas. he is also one of the slowest players in the league which can't help when we have one of the slowest teams.
Hope i'm wrong but Ritchie Britton is way better and a leader.

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

I want good players. Give me one guareteed player we'd miss out on if we brought Claros back?

The fact is Claros is a better option than any other player we have in midfield.

Craig never impressed me at falkirk or ST J. He certainly didnt impress me on Thursday and how good is OTJ? Hooked in the first leg and cant even get on the pitch in a 7-0 drubbing? More mediocre pish no doubt. Perhaps i'm being slightly unfair.

Claros, a striker and a Centre half should be the MINIMUM we bring in. I'd also expect a right back and a winger.

We'll get 2. MAYBE.

It's not a case of missing out on players. It's more to do with not filling the squad with the same players, Pat looks like he doesn't have a clue so allowing the signing of Claros would be 'potentially' taking up a wage.

We have three defensive midfielders with no goal scoring ability or pace, we don't need Claros. We have two attack minded central midfielders in Craig and Cairney, it's just a shame Fenlon can't see it. What we should be signing is defenders/strikers and/or wingers.


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[Mon Dieu4]

If we can hold onto Jorge it will easily be the best bit of business we do this summer, other than Griffiths he was the only bit of class we had last year

i don't care how many centre midfielders we have, i want the pick of the bunch back

[Tyler Durden]

Where do you base that on. A bit part player at Falkirk and the same again at St Johnstone. Always looked good against Hibs because of the effort he put in, and it WAS only Hibs. Have a guess why.
I watched him at Starks park and he never got back once. He only wants to go forward but he's work shy. He'll show effort just now at his new club and hopefully prove me wrong but i reckon he'll be found out well before christmas. he is also one of the slowest players in the league which can't help when we have one of the slowest teams.
Hope i'm wrong but Ritchie Britton is way better and a leader.

Total nonsense to suggest Craig was not one of St Johnstones best players in last 4 years. He's been one of the best attacking midfielders in the SPL in that time.

We definitely need pace elsewhere in the team but Brittain wouldn't have provided that either.

[jeffers]

I want good players. Give me one guareteed player we'd miss out on if we brought Claros back?

The fact is Claros is a better option than any other player we have in midfield.

Craig never impressed me at falkirk or ST J. He certainly didnt impress me on Thursday and how good is OTJ? Hooked in the first leg and cant even get on the pitch in a 7-0 drubbing? More mediocre pish no doubt. Perhaps i'm being slightly unfair.

Claros, a striker and a Centre half should be the MINIMUM we bring in. I'd also expect a right back and a winger.

We'll get 2. MAYBE.
How can I possibly give you one guaranteed player we'd miss out on by signing Claros ? There is a budget, we use it to sign players, we sign Claros there is less budget. You get that surely ? Craig disappointed me on Thursday, he wasn't alone in that, he did impress me with St Johnstone. OTJ, I have no idea, never noticed him with Inverness. Would I rather have Claros than him ? Too right I would, but he's signed. In KT and Taiwo we have players who can cover for Claros, maybe not as well as him, but given the glaring deficencies in other parts of the team Claros IMO is not a priority.

[OrdHibby]

Total nonsense to suggest Craig was not one of St Johnstones best players in last 4 years. He's been one of the best attacking midfielders in the SPL in that time.

We definitely need pace elsewhere in the team but Brittain wouldn't have provided that either.



Brittain 33 goals in 160 appearances
Craig 32 goals in 172 appearances
Nothing between them in the goals stake but in quality theres a massive gap in leadership, stamina and the ability to perform consistently i my view.

I'm going to stop now as it i'm resorting to questioning a new player when it's the people who sign them who should be brought into question.
Hope he proves me wrong.

[Tyler Durden]

I bet he has scored as many if not more goals than Craig and he's a far better player.

Brittain 33 goals in 160 appearances
Craig 32 goals in 172 appearances
Nothing between them in the goals stake but in quality theres a massive gap in leadership, stamina and the ability to perform consistently i my view.

I'm going to stop now as it i'm resorting to questioning a new player when it's the people who sign them who should be brought into question.
Hope he proves me wrong.

Brittains stats are mainly in Division 1. He's had 1 excellent season in the SPL.

I could be wrong but think he's also few years older than Craig. I'd have been happy for us to sign both but again, given the excess of other centre midfielders we'd no need.

I think the biggest problem we have us lack of pace, with only Harris offering any.

[Eyrie]

I'd rather have had Claros than Thomson, but it's too late for that now. Whilst getting Claros back would give us a first team regular, that can only happen if it doesn't impact on the budget for a centre half and right winger. We may need a right back as well and I'd lean towards bringing in a second winger (even on loan) to allow Craig to play in the middle before looking at yet another defensive midfielder.

[OrdHibby]

Brittains stats are mainly in Division 1. He's had 1 excellent season in the SPL.

I could be wrong but think he's also few years older than Craig. I'd have been happy for us to sign both but again, given the excess of other centre midfielders we'd no need.

I think the biggest problem we have us lack of pace, with only Harris offering any.

If thats the argument the you could argue Craig will have been playing with a better standard of player in the top division.
You can also argue Brittain has had 1 excellent season out of 1 and Craig most certainly HASN'T had an excellent season EVER. He may have had the odd good one but even then that would be pushing it. Ask his previous clubs fans for an honest opinion and you'll find they never rated him.

[Eyrie]

I can just imagine the sympathy that Brittain would have received on here when he wanted to break his pre-contract with Hibs to stay at Ross County for family reasons.

[OrdHibby]

I'd rather have had Claros than Thomson, but it's too late for that now. Whilst getting Claros back would give us a first team regular, that can only happen if it doesn't impact on the budget for a centre half and right winger. We may need a right back as well and I'd lean towards bringing in a second winger (even on loan) to allow Craig to play in the middle before looking at yet another defensive midfielder.

I can see that but both are better than the rest of the midfielders so why not have both. Claros & his missus love it in Edinburgh, he now speaks decent english and wanted to stay. He's also learned not to drive other people's cars without insurance lol.

[Tyler Durden]

If thats the argument the you could argue Craig will have been playing with a better standard of player in the top division.
You can also argue Brittain has had 1 excellent season out of 1 and Craig most certainly HASN'T had an excellent season EVER. He may have had the odd good one but even then that would be pushing it. Ask his previous clubs fans for an honest opinion and you'll find they never rated him.

Well yes better players generally find themselves in the top division.

Given you've resorted to CAPITALISATION I think I'll move on. You can apologise in a few weeks when Craig is rattling the goals in.

[OrdHibby]

Well yes better players generally find themselves in the top division.

Given you've resorted to CAPITALISATION I think I'll move on. You can apologise in a few weeks when Craig is rattling the goals in.

I'll have no grumbles about apologising if i'm wrong :aok:

[neil7908]

I'd rather have had Claros than Thomson, but it's too late for that now. Whilst getting Claros back would give us a first team regular, that can only happen if it doesn't impact on the budget for a centre half and right winger. We may need a right back as well and I'd lean towards bringing in a second winger (even on loan) to allow Craig to play in the middle before looking at yet another defensive midfielder.

I think this is right, In an earlier post I felt that it would be pointless bringing him back to ER given the number of similar CM's we have but the more I playback the game from Thursday in my head, the more I suspect that the energy, technical ability and strength of Claros would have helped immensely. Not saying he would have won us the game but his work rate, passing and mobility would definitely have helped the team.

If he's available I would have him back (done a bit of a 180 on my previous position) but if it came down to say getting Claros back and using up the rest of our budget, stopping us getting another winger/defender/forward I'm still not sure what the best call would be.

Ideal scenario is we get Claros and 2-3 other bodies but that will mean we have 2 out of Thomson, Taiwo, OTJ and Claros on the bench most weeks, not to mention the other options in CM. Poor planning on our part given how much work the rest of the team need but I think we really missed him on Thursday and he has a composure on confidence on the ball that not many other current Hibs players can complete with.

[Callum_62]

Dont care how many centre mids we have - Claros would be the pick of the bunch, and first name on the team sheet for me

What would be wrong with


Handling/Robertson Claros Thomson Craig Harris

Collins

[woody0-7]

Dont care how many centre mids we have - Claros would be the pick of the bunch, and first name on the team sheet for me

What would be wrong with


Handling/Robertson Claros Thomson Craig Harris

Collins

Nothing in my eyes that a good midfield Thomson and Claris holding with Robertson (who given the chance will score goals) Craig and Harris with the big lad aup front holding up play for the afore mentioned 3 to hopefully bag us some goals . Our problem lies at centre half we absolutley must sign a commanding CH (Webster ?) or we will ship goals all year. It's another thing pat playing these guys in their correct positions tho :

[jdships]

Nothing in my eyes that a good midfield Thomson and Claris holding with Robertson (who given the chance will score goals) Craig and Harris with the big lad aup front holding up play for the afore mentioned 3 to hopefully bag us some goals . Our problem lies at centre half we absolutley must sign a commanding CH (Webster ?) or we will ship goals all year. It's another thing pat playing these guys in their correct positions tho :

:agree:
And has done for a season :rolleyes:

[BigBamba]

Dont care how many centre mids we have - Claros would be the pick of the bunch, and first name on the team sheet for me

What would be wrong with


Handling/Robertson Claros Thomson Craig Harris

Collins

Don't understand why anyone would think about dropping Taiwo in my opinion he's been much better than Thomson

[Makaveli]

Dont care how many centre mids we have - Claros would be the pick of the bunch, and first name on the team sheet for me

What would be wrong with


Handling/Robertson Claros Thomson Craig Harris

Collins

Can Robertson play RM? Genuine question. Handling should be nowhere near the team IMO.

As you say, Claros should be the core of the side. But as above there isn't much between Taiwo and Thomson.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Can Robertson play RM? Genuine question. Handling should be nowhere near the team IMO.

As you say, Claros should be the core of the side. But as above there isn't much between Taiwo and Thomson.

Robertson has never played RM before IIRC. Would be useful as a Right Attacking Mid though. Mind you, Fenlon will probably play him RM at somepoint as he does like playing players out of position :greengrin

[cloudy]

Don't understand why anyone would think about dropping Taiwo in my opinion he's been much better than Thomson

Can't see what all the fuss about taiwo is doesn't do anything in a game Thomson is far better in my opinion and if Jones can't get in the team before taiwo why bother signing him, Thomson is a leader and should be aloud to lead give him the armband, claros and KT holding with Craig in front of them is the midfield we should be looking to play

[Centre Hawf]

I don't know if he's ever played there before or even if he's any good there, but there might be a case of OTJ playing Centre half (again i have no idea if he's good enough there) That would then allow us to play a midfield like:

--------------Claros----Taiwo/Thomson------

--Robertson/new winger-----Craig--------Harris

-----------------------Collins----------------

[itslegaltender]

BBC reporting in gossip section that Claros is threatening to strike at his club and is begging Hibs to find the money to sign him.

[Callum_62]

BBC reporting in gossip section that Claros is threatening to strike at his club and is begging Hibs to find the money to sign him.

Get in there Jorge!

:fenlon

[wee hay]

Don't understand why anyone would think about dropping Taiwo in my opinion he's been much better than Thomson

Are you joking me I can't actually think of one attribute taiwo is better than Thomson if am honest?

[YehButNoBut]

BBC reporting in gossip section that Claros is threatening to strike at his club and is begging Hibs to find the money to sign him.

It was reported recently that Hibs were out the running & that Claros would either stay at Motagua or move to MLS side Kansas City.

A move to MLS now would be strange as their league finishes at the end of October.

Claros is obviously keen to get back to Edinburgh, but I think we have now overloaded our midfield & can't justify spending money on another midfielder.

Has he not got another year of his contract to go with Motagua if so he may be best sitting it out with them until January & returning to Hibs for a nominal fee, we could then tie him up on a long term deal (if he is so keen to get back to us).

Certainly a player I would like back at Hibs but we may have to move on some others to make way for him now.

[scoopyboy]

Are you joking me I can't actually think of one attribute taiwo is better than Thomson if am honest?

How about being on the pitch at full tim?:greengrin

I actually agree though that although ne never plays 90 minutes he is the classier of the two.

[spike220]

BBC reporting in gossip section that Claros is threatening to strike at his club and is begging Hibs to find the money to sign him.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23612037 If this is correct does anyone know what they asking for and how long he has left on his contract?

[scoopyboy]

It was reported recently that Hibs were out the running & that Claros would either stay at Motagua or move to MLS side Kansas City.

A move to MLS now would be strange as their league finishes at the end of October.

Claros is obviously keen to get back to Edinburgh, but I think we have now overloaded our midfield & can't justify spending money on another midfielder.

Has he not got another year of his contract to go with Motagua if so he may be best sitting it out with them until January & returning to Hibs for a nominal fee, we could then tie him up on a long term deal (if he is so keen to get back to us).

Certainly a player I would like back at Hibs but we may have to move on some others to make way for him now.

Rodders will want him tied up as his World Cup strategy will come into play, as in De La Cruz.

Honduras have a good chance of qualifying.

[Aldo]

Are you joking me I can't actually think of one attribute taiwo is better than Thomson if am honest?

No two players are the same... That's the idea of it. For me anyway TT would be in the MF alongside KT.

Mind you if Jorge is back we are overrun with CM.

Re your original question

KT is a class act and will prove slot of doubters on here wrong with his performances.

[Aldo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23612037 If this is correct does anyone know what they asking for and how long he has left on his contract?

Sure he has a year left on his current contract. Think his club are changing the goal posts and are looking for a wee bidding war to commence?

[Brightside]

Dont care how many centre mids we have - Claros would be the pick of the bunch, and first name on the team sheet for me

What would be wrong with


Handling/Robertson Claros Thomson Craig Harris

Collins

Handling is a striker. You'd be better off playing me on right wing. I'd rather see Harris on the Right and Lewis on the left (until we get a proper winger)

[Winston Ingram]

Dont care how many centre mids we have - Claros would be the pick of the bunch, and first name on the team sheet for me

What would be wrong with


Handling/Robertson Claros Thomson Craig Harris

Collins

Katie is head and shoulders above every CM we have and Claros.

Don't get me wrong, i rate Jorge but i would be disappointed if we signed him. We're already overstocked in sitting midfielders and i'd be p!ssed off if we blew what is remaining on him when we are in dire need off some width, particularly after Harris & Cairney's injuries:agree:

[YehButNoBut]

Story in DR

Honduras midfielder Jorge Claros in transfer plea to Hibs

THE 27-year-old spent last season on loan at Easter Road and is desperate to leave his current club Motagua.


JORGE CLAROS has pleaded with Hibs to find the cash to buy him after he pledged to go on strike at his Motagua club until he wins a move.

The influential midfielder has yet to find a new club since his return to Honduras, despite an impressive last season on loan at Easter Road and excellent performances for his country in World Cup qualifiers and the Gold Cup.

Hibs have so far failed to agree a deal for the player and MLS sides Real Salt Lake and Sporting Kansas City have yet to follow up their interest in the 27-year-old.

Claros said: “The obvious option is to go back to Hibs.

“I have to hope Hibs or teams in the MLS reach an agreement with my club.

“I’m training with Motagua but I won’t be playing for them – I want out and the manager knows this.”

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/honduras-midfielder-jorge-claros-transfer-2139559?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[PeterboroHibee]

Katie is head and shoulders above every CM we have and Claros.

Don't get me wrong, i rate Jorge but i would be disappointed if we signed him. We're already overstocked in sitting midfielders and i'd be p!ssed off if we blew what is remaining on him when we are in dire need off some width, particularly after Harris & Cairney's injuries:agree:

Agree with that. I think we have a decent enough squad together (which unfortunately hasnt been reflected in results), but the areas that we are lacking are blatantly obvious, and we certainly dont need another central midfielder.

Even with a fully fit squad, Harris is our only genuine winger. Vine and Craig have played there a lot, but Id say Craig is more of a central midfielder and Vine a striker. We also lack pace in the team, which is even more evident when Harris isnt playing. I know there are plenty of examples where signing someone based on pace havent worked, but I would still like someone who brings that to the team (whether starting or off the bench).

[Pedantic_Hibee]

We may not need another central midfielder, but I'd take Jorge Claros over any of the midfielders we have.

Thus, I come to the conclusion that we need Jorge Claros.

[Eternal Hibbie]

Agree with that. I think we have a decent enough squad together (which unfortunately hasnt been reflected in results), but the areas that we are lacking are blatantly obvious, and we certainly dont need another central midfielder.

Even with a fully fit squad, Harris is our only genuine winger. Vine and Craig have played there a lot, but Id say Craig is more of a central midfielder and Vine a striker. We also lack pace in the team, which is even more evident when Harris isnt playing. I know there are plenty of examples where signing someone based on pace havent worked, but I would still like someone who brings that to the team (whether starting or off the bench).

I would be delighted to see Claros back at Easter Road, he plays an entirely different game to our other centre mids, he operates in the spaces that teams like Malmo destroyed us in and has the vision to break up this threat.

Would feel a lot more confident if he was playing on Sunday.

Talking of which, who remembers his last performance at the PBS ? :)

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[Callum_62]

We may not need another central midfielder, but I'd take Jorge Claros over any of the midfielders we have.

Thus, I come to the conclusion that we need Jorge Claros.

:agree: this.

[hibsmad]

Come on Rod!

Nominal fee just now (say around 50K) with the promise of a large chunk of any future sell on fee.

Everyone's a winner!

(apart from Montagu when Claros becomes a Hibs legend seeing out the remainder of his career with us)

[matty_f]

We may not need another central midfielder, but I'd take Jorge Claros over any of the midfielders we have.

Thus, I come to the conclusion that we need Jorge Claros.

:agree:

[degenerated]

We may not need another central midfielder, but I'd take Jorge Claros over any of the midfielders we have.

Thus, I come to the conclusion that we need Jorge Claros.

Absolutely. Doesn't matter what other midfielders we have when a player the calibre of Claros is available, to not sign him would be folly.

[Thecat23]

I feel sorry on him. He was promised a deal back to us as both parties agreed a fee end of last season.

Then his team started messing about as nothing official was signed. I still fully expect him to be a Hibs player come the end of the transfer window. His agent has also been getting pissed off with his club as well. As I said a few days ago, Claros is adamant not to stay over there as he loves Hibs and Edinburgh, and in how own words "Is where his heart is now". Really hope we get him the guy is class. Not many over seas players take to Scottish clubs these days but Claros loves us.

[California-Hibs]

I feel sorry on him. He was promised a deal back to us as both parties agreed a fee end of last season.

Then his team started messing about as nothing official was signed. I still fully expect him to be a Hibs player come the end of the transfer window. His agent has also been getting pissed off with his club as well. As I said a few days ago, Claros is adamant not to stay over there as he loves Hibs and Edinburgh, and in how own words "Is where his heart is now". Really hope we get him the guy is class. Not many over seas players take to Scottish clubs these days but Claros loves us.

Really hope you're right mate and that he returns. Yes we have an abundance of midfielders, but Claros will be with us for a good amount of years, that couple with his obvious fantastic ability makes it a no brainer. Hope it gets sorted out soon!

[Scònaldò]

Him joining in singing with the fans at the end of the hearts game at tynecastle proves that he loves it here.

[marinello59]

Him joining in singing with the fans at the end of the hearts game at tynecastle proves that he loves it here.

If one of the MLS clubs offers a better deal than us he will love it there too.

[Leishy1995]

How often does a player show such desire to play for us? More than griffiths did

[Scònaldò]

If one of the MLS clubs offers a better deal than us he will love it there too.

Probably, I never said that wouldn't be the case.

[Makaveli]

If one of the MLS clubs offers a better deal than us he will love it there too.

Money isn't everything to everyone, you know.

He has a young family and if they felt settled in Edinburgh that counts for a lot.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Best defensive mid I have seen at Hibs since I have supported them. Get him signed I'd say:agree:

[Hibstrooper]

Best defensive mid I have seen at Hibs since I have supported them. Get him signed I'd say:agree:

:agree:

The Matty Jack role needs to be renamed the Pitbull Claros role in his honour.

[cad]

How often does a player show such desire to play for us? More than griffiths did


Hope he`s starting a trend players that want to come and play for "The Glorious" ,rather than get signed and do heehaw for the duration of their contracts.
Hurry back Jorge,if you can be here for Sunday all the better

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

:agree:

The Matty Jack role needs to be renamed the Pitbull Claros role in his honour.

Spot on :greengrin

[Leishy1995]

Hope he`s starting a trend players that want to come and play for "The Glorious" ,rather than get signed and do heehaw for the duration of their contracts.
Hurry back Jorge,if you can be here for Sunday all the better

Yep. Would love to see our club looked at as a great place to ply your trade not steal some wage

[500miles]

If we were to take him back, a significantly reduced wage in his first year/ 20 games, with yearly wage rises for 3 years would probably be reasonable. I think Jorge would see that we've had to plan for life without him, and if he would accept the initial wage cut, there would be significant rewards in the future.

We couldn't justify spending big on such a well populated area of the pitch. He would, however, play every week, and go a long way to improving the quality of football.

[jacomo]

If we were to take him back, a significantly reduced wage in his first year/ 20 games, with yearly wage rises for 3 years would probably be reasonable. I think Jorge would see that we've had to plan for life without him, and if he would accept the initial wage cut, there would be significant rewards in the future.

We couldn't justify spending big on such a well populated area of the pitch. He would, however, play every week, and go a long way to improving the quality of football.

This is based on what exactly?

If he's going to play every week, as you say, Claros will expect a package that reflects his importance to the side. Why would he accept less money because the club hasn't thought through its transfer dealings very clearly?

[500miles]

This is based on what exactly?

If he's going to play every week, as you say, Claros will expect a package that reflects his importance to the side. Why would he accept less money because the club hasn't thought through its transfer dealings very clearly?

I'm working on the assumption that it was his club that changed the goalposts at the last minute. That's not Hibs' fault. For all the things we can give them a hard time for, this isn't one of them.

[blackpoolhibs]

We may not need another central midfielder, but I'd take Jorge Claros over any of the midfielders we have.

Thus, I come to the conclusion that we need Jorge Claros.



:agree:

[BVB Hibs]

Claros is a man who would make me very happy. A transition to a 4-3-3 with Claros at the core would, I feel, take the majority of the league to pieces.

--------Collins------
Harris----------Vine
--Craig-----Taiwo--
-------Claros-------

Potentially KT in for Taiwo, though I'm a big TT fan. Harris and Vine playing off Collins and going wide if playing on the wings. Wouldn't address our lack of pace would be a step in the right direction as far as attacking football is concerned.

Would even be an easy transition to a more defensive formation. Bring Taiwo back into a line with Claros and play Craig in the attacking midfield line with Harris and Vine leaving Collins as a lone striker. Would probably bring in Tudor Jones at that point too.

I'm pretty confident PF won't go for something quite so exotic but with the right tactics that formation could take the league apart through the middle, with Claros at the fulcrum of the side. We've nobody who'd be able to dictate the game in the same way currently, nobody in the mould. And sure, a man is allowed to dream isn't he?

[ahibby]

Maybe I am underestimating Hibs but I think that we have probably used up all our player budget especially as we have had to bring in another CB, presumably bcos they were hoping James McPake would be fit and the money forked out for Collins. Would be good to have Claros back but as you can tell from my first sentence I don't think we can. Fingers firmly crossed that I'm wrong.

[jacomo]

I'm working on the assumption that it was his club that changed the goalposts at the last minute. That's not Hibs' fault. For all the things we can give them a hard time for, this isn't one of them.

I'm working off the assumption that Hibs thought there was no chance Claros would extend his stay with us, and planned for life without him. This looks like a big mistake and - not being party to any negotiations between us and his parent club - I don't know whose fault that is. It could well be ours.

[Stringer]

If he signs lets hope he plays DM. He isn't a box to box midfielder.

[The_Exile]

If he signs lets hope he plays DM. He isn't a box to box midfielder.

He could be IMO, he's certainly got the attributes.

[frazeHFC]

He could be IMO, he's certainly got the attributes.



Scored a cracking goal for Honduras recently. :agree:

[Unseen work]

He could be IMO, he's certainly got the attributes.

I always wonder what he would be like further foward or if he has ever played it. Great touch, vision and passing. All the attributes you want from a attacking midfielder

[Just_Jimmy]

Since he left us, and since we can no longer get Griffiths, I would swap Claros for any player currently at Hibs.

[Stringer]

He could be IMO, he's certainly got the attributes.

He isn't quick enough to play box to box. He can't beat a man and get a shot away.

I would play him as a DM. He is a good distributor and he can tackle.

[OrdHibby]

Just get rid of OTJ and Craig, get Jorge in and we'll be hunky dory :agree:

[Leighonel]

Since he left us, and since we can no longer get Griffiths, I would swap Claros for any player currently at Hibs.

Is that cause harris is injured?

[hibs0666]

Just get rid of OTF and Craig, get Jorge in and we'll be hunky dory :agree:

He's no bad, but I can't see him taking over the role of two players.

[JeMeSouviens]

He's no bad, but I can't see him taking over the role of two players.

Even if one of them was Brian Hamilton?

[Winston Ingram]

Absolutely. Doesn't matter what other midfielders we have when a player the calibre of Claros is available, to not sign him would be folly.

I rate Claros but as i said nowhere near Katie's calibre.

It speaks volumes that he's been here nearly 2 years and no other british club appears to be showing any interest in him at all.

[YehButNoBut]

Sounds like there will be no deal for Claros to go to Kansas in the MLS

The Daily Wiz ‏@TheDailyWizKC 1h (https://twitter.com/TheDailyWizKC/status/365524855224926209) Deal with Jorge Claros not happening http://sbn.to/1cNFtoN (http://t.co/IJD1gVHSj5)

Deal with Jorge Claros not happening


Robb Heinemann has confirmed that the potential deal with Jorge Claros this transfer window has died. The transfer window closes today.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Sounds like there will be no deal for Claros to go to Kansas in the MLS

The Daily Wiz ‏@TheDailyWizKC 1h (https://twitter.com/TheDailyWizKC/status/365524855224926209) Deal with Jorge Claros not happening http://sbn.to/1cNFtoN (http://t.co/IJD1gVHSj5)

Deal with Jorge Claros not happening


Robb Heinemann has confirmed that the potential deal with Jorge Claros this transfer window has died. The transfer window closes today.

Interesting:wink:...

[Ryan69]

If we could get Claros signed up it would be a major coup!

Last season he was a class above the opposition he had,and its a player who has obviously fallen in love with the club....so will give everything,unlike the majority of players we have had in the past few years.
I know we have probably pretty much spent our budget...but players of his calibre dont come available to Hibs very often...and how much better positioned at the end of the season would more than likely cover the surplus we had obtaining him.

Like many people say best defensive midfielder I can remember at Hibs..but his lack of taking a shot does your head in. But the Honduras game showed hes more than capable!

[NYHibby]

Sounds like there will be no deal for Claros to go to Kansas in the MLS

The Daily Wiz ‏@TheDailyWizKC 1h (https://twitter.com/TheDailyWizKC/status/365524855224926209) Deal with Jorge Claros not happening http://sbn.to/1cNFtoN (http://t.co/IJD1gVHSj5)

Deal with Jorge Claros not happening


Robb Heinemann has confirmed that the potential deal with Jorge Claros this transfer window has died. The transfer window closes today.


The Daily Wiz also has a link that says he ruled out coming back to us:
http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://www.hondurassoccer.com/jorge-claros-se-ha-integrado-este-martes-a-los-entrenamientos-de-motagua/

[YehButNoBut]

The Daily Wiz also has a link that says he ruled out coming back to us:
http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://www.hondurassoccer.com/jorge-claros-se-ha-integrado-este-martes-a-los-entrenamientos-de-motagua/

Seen that a few days a go, sounds like Kansas probably offered an acceptable deal to Motagua but since then Claros has dug his heels in and said he wants back to Edinburgh or he's no playing. :greengrin

Looks like now if Hibs can't get him he'll have to stay in Honduras, seems to stack the odds in Rod's favour, if we're still interested.

[hibees 7062]

Scored a cracking goal for Honduras recently. :agree:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_PzsZlngfg&feature=player_detailpage

[NYHibby]

Seen that a few days a go, sounds like Kansas probably offered an acceptable deal to Motagua but since then Claros has dug his heels in and said he wants back to Edinburgh or he's no playing. :greengrin

Looks like now if Hibs can't get him he'll have to stay in Honduras, seems to stack the odds in Rod's favour, if we're still interested.

Yeah, one of the guys from the Daily Wiz seems to agree with you.

https://twitter.com/BenGartlandSKC/status/365554915352907777

[The_Exile]

I rate Claros but as i said nowhere near Katie's calibre.

It speaks volumes that he's been here nearly 2 years and no other british club appears to be showing any interest in him at all.
That is something that genuinely baffles me, he's not an SPL player, he should be playing in a better league, but just because a premiership team isn't ringing his bell doesn't mean he's not operating at that level. If his family are settled/enjoy life in Edinburgh that counts for a substantial amount, something money cant buy. Also, doesn't he live beside Emilio Iziguire? Who just so happens to be his best mate!

[O'Rourke3]

I would be delighted to see Claros back at Easter Road, he plays an entirely different game to our other centre mids, he operates in the spaces that teams like Malmo destroyed us in and has the vision to break up this threat.

Would feel a lot more confident if he was playing on Sunday.

Talking of which, who remembers his last performance at the PBS ? :)

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[carnoustiehibee]

Is he going back to hibernian?

@BenGartlandSKC: @dalexander1875 Possibly, I know he's begging his agent to get a deal done even though it fell through before

[davieh]

I rate Claros but as i said nowhere near Katie's calibre.

It speaks volumes that he's been here nearly 2 years and no other british club appears to be showing any interest in him at all.

Claros is head and shoulders above Thommo.

(You could ask why no other British clubs seem to be beating down Thomson's door...?)

[truehibernian]

Claros is head and shoulders above Thommo.

(You could ask why no other British clubs seem to be beating down Thomson's door...?)

There's no British or Euro clubs beating doors down for Jorge either and if I'm honest, I've only been in the 'he's decent, no more, no less' club - I think Hibs need creativity and midfield drive as we have ball winners there already.

Thommo is a superb footballer and a good pro off the pitch.

I'd rather have KT, but hey if we want and get JC he'll get my support.

[Centre Hawf]

There's no British or Euro clubs beating doors down for Jorge either and if I'm honest, I've only been in the 'he's decent, no more, no less' club - I think Hibs need creativity and midfield drive as we have ball winners there already.

Thommo is a superb footballer and a good pro off the pitch.

I'd rather have KT, but hey if we want and get JC he'll get my support.

No British or Euro clubs beat down the doors for any player that plays in the SPL anymore. Unless you're a standout young player like Wanyama or Russel (who even had Italian clubs after him) Jorge is a 27 year old centre midfielder that has played 18 months in the SPL and has played in a very unscouted country for most of his senior career, I think that is the main reason why no one his banging on his door with a pen and bit paper.

I do believe he was our best player outside of Griffiths last year but let's be honest he doesn't instantly pop up on anyones radar unless you watch him week in week out, which i was lucky enough to do.

[Golden Bear]

Claros is head and shoulders above Thommo.

(You could ask why no other British clubs seem to be beating down Thomson's door...?)

Ah but there was which makes it even more strange that he decided to stay with us. It's called allegiance I believe.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Wonder if we would have lost 9-0 against Malmo with wee Pitbull snapping away at the Malmo ball players?

[Hibby70]

Rod is wandering round Honduran villages as we speak. Blending into the background like Denholm Elliot in The Last Crusade.

[matty_f]

Rod is wandering round Honduran villages as we speak. Blending into the background like Denholm Elliot in The Last Crusade.

:faf: brilliant! !

[Just_Jimmy]

Is that cause harris is injured?

No. It's because he is better than any other player at the club.

Harris is a brilliant prospect and has shown he can be a good player, a difference maker, for hibs but as off yet he's yet to do it all year.

Anyway

I'll clarify. I'd swap Claros for anyother central midfielder at Hibs.

[500miles]

Claros has the ability to play some spectacular passes. Real creative vision to start attacks that KT just doesn't have. He can't bully and intimidate like Thomson, but he is more mobile, and a more effective tackler. Claros is the better player these days, Thomson's injuries have made him too slow, and I think he'd struggle to cover ground in a 4-4-2.

[mikewynne]

Claros has the ability to play some spectacular passes. Real creative vision to start attacks that KT just doesn't have. He can't bully and intimidate like Thomson, but he is more mobile, and a more effective tackler. Claros is the better player these days, Thomson's injuries have made him too slow, and I think he'd struggle to cover ground in a 4-4-2.
Claros is a great defensive player, but 'spectacular passes'? Thomson is a far better forward passer of the ball than Claros.

[IWasThere2016]

There's no British or Euro clubs beating doors down for Jorge either and if I'm honest, I've only been in the 'he's decent, no more, no less' club - I think Hibs need creativity and midfield drive as we have ball winners there already.

Thommo is a superb footballer and a good pro off the pitch.

I'd rather have KT, but hey if we want and get JC he'll get my support.

This. 100%

[Beefster]

My biggest concern with signing Claros is that it means that Fenlon will continue to play 2/3 defensive central midfielders every game.

[calumhibee1]

I'll clarify. I'd swap Claros for anyother central midfielder at Hibs.

I'd swap him for any two. He's streets ahead of anyone in our squad now with only Thomson maybe being the exception.

[hibbymark]

Claros took a long time to adapt to the spl and i remember commenting that if he was my pitbull that I would have taken him to the vets to find out what was wrong with him! He improved beyond recognition last season but I still think with the midfield we have now,that a different type of midfielder/other positions are a bigger priority . Claros's strenth for me is winning the ball back and laying off a simple pass ie a holding midfielder.Im still not sure we have the midfielder for him to lay it off to and carry it forward or make that final pass and link midfield to front. Taiwo performs a similar role for me. OTJ does the same but adds height,Liam Craig still has a lot of improving to do but would be considered a decent spl signing anywhere bar Celtic, Katie showed on Sunday that he can still perform very well at this level and will be a great addition this season if fit, and maybe even has one half decent move left in him. Alex Harris is clearly a loss due to injury but Claros is never going to be a replacement for him.Lewis as a sqaud player can also fit in anywhere across the middle and Vine played left mid last year for St.johnstone. Add to that Danny Handling who as also played there and I still dont see the need to get Claros back tbh. If McCourt is a possible signing short term I would rather we took a punt on someone like him who might just be the key to unlock the door for us and be our very own 2013 day Chic Charnley!! ggtth

[khib70]

Claros took a long time to adapt to the spl and i remember commenting that if he was my pitbull that I would have taken him to the vets to find out what was wrong with him! He improved beyond recognition last season but I still think with the midfield we have now,that a different type of midfielder/other positions are a bigger priority . Claros's strenth for me is winning the ball back and laying off a simple pass ie a holding midfielder.Im still not sure we have the midfielder for him to lay it off to and carry it forward or make that final pass and link midfield to front. Taiwo performs a similar role for me. OTJ does the same but adds height,Liam Craig still has a lot of improving to do but would be considered a decent spl signing anywhere bar Celtic, Katie showed on Sunday that he can still perform very well at this level and will be a great addition this season if fit, and maybe even has one half decent move left in him. Alex Harris is clearly a loss due to injury but Claros is never going to be a replacement for him.Lewis as a sqaud player can also fit in anywhere across the middle and Vine played left mid last year for St.johnstone. Add to that Danny Handling who as also played there and I still dont see the need to get Claros back tbh. If McCourt is a possible signing short term I would rather we took a punt on someone like him who might just be unlock the door for us and be our very own 2013 day Chic Charnley!! ggtth
:agree:This, basically.

Of the many thoughts which have gone through my head about the last few games "what we really need is another defensive central midfielder" is definitely not one. We need pace, creativity and linking skills, to close the huge gap between midfield and attack which is Fenlon's trademark.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Can we not just agree that both Claros and KT are class midfielders. Different players, both with their own qualities. Both would walk into any midfield outside of Celtic perhaps. Would love to see them play a full season together instead of just the handful of games at the end of last season.

On a side note, was anyone else friends with Claros on Facebook when he first arrived? Used to love his status updates, loads of broken English with the odd 'Hibees' or 'thank you Hibee fans' thrown in. He posted a photo of the Sect43 'PitBull' flag saying 'thank you for all your support'. The abuse he took after the Hearts cup final was horrific, folk posting telling him to **** off, never show your face in Edinburgh again etc etc. He seemed to disappear of FB soon after that sadly

[FromTheCapital]

Claros & Thomson would be an absolutely unstoppable midfield... Nobody would get past them! :flag:

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Not gonna happen but imagine a midfield 5 of...

Thomson. Claros.
Craig.
Harris. McCourt

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Claros & Thomson would be an absolutely unstoppable midfield... Nobody would get past them! :flag:

:agree:

[Beefster]

Claros & Thomson would be an absolutely unstoppable midfield... Nobody would get past them! :flag:

Wasn't that our midfield for a few defeats last season?

[500miles]

Wasn't that our midfield for a few defeats last season?

Falkirk first half....

To me, that was because Thomson wasn't fit though. Robertson was short of fitness too. The young Bairns came out of the traps like greyhounds, and we couldn't handle it.


I don't now how long it will be before it becomes Thomson's injuries catch up with him this season, he's already flying into tackles waaaaay late, but I don't think he provides a long term solution. Claros would.

[Iggy Pope]

That post further up about Chic Charnley. Easy to get dewy-eyed, but the man was decent until about September (if I'm being kind)in his one season with us and was frankly, chronic thereafter.

Back on topic, Claros would be an asset to ANY Scottish club, including Celtic IMHO.

[Fergus52]

Can we not just agree that both Claros and KT are class midfielders. Different players, both with their own qualities. Both would walk into any midfield outside of Celtic perhaps. Would love to see them play a full season together instead of just the handful of games at the end of last season.

On a side note, was anyone else friends with Claros on Facebook when he first arrived? Used to love his status updates, loads of broken English with the odd 'Hibees' or 'thank you Hibee fans' thrown in. He posted a photo of the Sect43 'PitBull' flag saying 'thank you for all your support'. The abuse he took after the Hearts cup final was horrific, folk posting telling him to **** off, never show your face in Edinburgh again etc etc. He seemed to disappear of FB soon after that sadly

Yeah the abuse he got after 5-1 on fb was embarrassing.

Think it was said on here that the account was run by hit mate or something

[Jim44]

Yeah the abuse he got after 5-1 on fb was embarrassing.

Think it was said on here that the account was run by hit mate or something

A guy who can survive guns and bullets wouldn't be deterred by a few verbal attacks. I'm all for him coming back to us but each passing day seems to make that possibility highly unlikely.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

I'm all for financial prudence and spending a pound less than what we bring in.....but if Rod Petrie doesn't beg, steal, borrow or chib his own granny to get this wee magician signed up I'll personally hunt him down and torment him with a bic razor. Get it f*****g done pronto, most underrated footballer in the SPL by an absolute country mile.

That laddie is a proper, proper footballer and, in my eyes, is our best midfielder since wee Latas.

Get. It. Done. By. Any. Means. Possible.

:fenlon

[Andy74]

Pat is in the Scotsman today saying we've no chance of signing Claros. Or at least that's the reporters take on it. Said we tried at the end if the season but didnt work out.

[Callum_62]

I'm all for financial prudence and spending a pound less than what we bring in.....but if Rod Petrie doesn't beg, steal, borrow or chib his own granny to get this wee magician signed up I'll personally hunt him down and torment him with a bic razor. Get it f*****g done pronto, most underrated footballer in the SPL by an absolute country mile.

That laddie is a proper, proper footballer and, in my eyes, is our best midfielder since wee Latas.

Get. It. Done. By. Any. Means. Possible.

:fenlon

:agree: a very good player, who just done really well at an international tourney and wants to come and sign for us

we should be doing everything to sign him

[OrdHibby]

:agree: a very good player, who just done really well at an international tourney and wants to come and sign for us

we should be doing everything to sign him

This but unfortunately the people who run Hibs have no idea what a difference a quality player makes to a team, which in turn can add to the gate etc.

This is HIBS and until someone in charge shows ambition we're ****ed.

This is why i find myself more interested in the demise of the gorgay kiddie fiddles than i do of Hibs at this present time. Far more entertaining.

[OrdHibby]

He completely dominated their midfield last season

Still Petrie know what he's doing, right ?

[coolhibbie]

Was just going to post something very similar, Hibs have missed Claros over that last few games big time. :agree:

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Massive loss. Noone knows the situation with his club tho so how is that Petries fault?? His club wanted £800,000 last year

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Massive loss, excellent player. 10 times the player OTJ is! I want him back :(

[OrdHibby]

Massive loss. Noone knows the situation with his club tho so how is that Petries fault?? His club wanted £800,000 last year

We're losing for than that every season with Petrie's managerial appointments. Get Petrie tae ****, bring in someone who knows what its all about and they can appoint a manager who knows what he's doing. That'll add a few thousand to the gate and in turn will cover fees for class players.

SIMPLES

[Sir David Gray]

Claros has never been our player.

Does anyone know what his club in Honduras have asked for him and if it's an amount that we could realistically afford?

[neil7908]

Yup, with him and Leigh gone we have lost our best players from last season.

Claros will help us score goals but he was the one dictating the teams tempo and passing last season. He fought for every ball, looked assured in possession and has a good range of passing. That in itself isn't enough to make us into a top side but would be immensely helpful.

[...WentToMowAnSPL]

Yup, with him and Leigh gone we have lost our best players from last season.

Claros will help us score goals but he was the one dictating the teams tempo and passing last season. He fought for every ball, looked assured in possession and has a good range of passing. That in itself isn't enough to make us into a top side but would be immensely helpful.

Completely agree

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

Was it not obvious what we lacked today. Pace, creativity & goals?

Claros didn't have any, he was a good wee player though.

We are playing devoid of any tactical instructions. That's why we can't score, not because we don't have Jorge Claros.

[...WentToMowAnSPL]

Was it not obvious what we lacked today. Pace, creativity & goals?

Claros didn't have any, he was a good wee player though.

We are playing devoid of any tactical instructions. That's why we can't score, not because we don't have Jorge Claros.

And our captain is our goalie? As good as Ben is I don't think it is helping the situation with not having a captain middle of the pitch able to influence things

[Twiglet]

Can we not just agree that both Claros and KT are class midfielders. Different players, both with their own qualities. Both would walk into any midfield outside of Celtic perhaps. Would love to see them play a full season together instead of just the handful of games at the end of last season.

On a side note, was anyone else friends with Claros on Facebook when he first arrived? Used to love his status updates, loads of broken English with the odd 'Hibees' or 'thank you Hibee fans' thrown in. He posted a photo of the Sect43 'PitBull' flag saying 'thank you for all your support'. The abuse he took after the Hearts cup final was horrific, folk posting telling him to **** off, never show your face in Edinburgh again etc etc. He seemed to disappear of FB soon after that sadly

He was never on Facebook. Source. Man himself.

Would love to see him back. Could control the pace of matches at times need and change the tempo of our team which I'dlove to see.

[Disco Dave]

The wee man is twice the player Thomson is and 10x the player Robertson or Craig is. Would walk right back into the team. How about we have Thomson infront of the defence and Claros and Craig in the CENTRE, and maybe think about playing a couple of wingers out wide instead of centre midfielders, it's not ****ing rocket science.

[Winston Ingram]

*****ing the remainder of our budget on Claros would be suicidal. We are utterly devoid of width & pace and overstocked in the middle of the park.

[Godsahibby]

He completely dominated their midfield last season

Still Petrie know what he's doing, right ?

As much as I love a Petrie bash, his fault Claros isn't here? Don't tell me we had the same deal to sign him for £150k as we did with Griffith.