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Billychaotic182
31-05-2013, 01:20 PM
There are a lot of people on here and on twitter suggesting his back is ****ed and his career is over!


Are these just rumours or is there any facts to this?

hope not as he would be a huge lose.

blackpoolhibs
31-05-2013, 01:24 PM
There are a lot of people on here and on twitter suggesting his back is ****ed and his career is over!


Are these just rumours or is there any facts to this?

hope not as he would be a huge lose.

I don't think we will know until after his operation, but the signs don't look good.

Jones28
31-05-2013, 02:12 PM
Not looking too good for now. Maybe for the best? For him personally I mean.

Geo_1875
31-05-2013, 02:31 PM
I doubt he'd go in for quite a serious operation if there was no chance of playing again. Might be better to wait and see what the outcome is rather than listening to twattish rumours.

Hibercelona
31-05-2013, 02:34 PM
Hopefully all goes well for him.

He's a great player and character on the pitch when he's fit.

R'Albin
31-05-2013, 02:35 PM
Wonder if we might offer him a coaching role? He sounds like a good guy to have around the dressing room anyway.

Billy Whizz
31-05-2013, 02:54 PM
Is there anything official about him needing an op?

AngusHibby
31-05-2013, 03:08 PM
Will never forget the impact he had when he joined if this is true. Gladiator of a player

RIP Bestie
31-05-2013, 03:13 PM
Wonder if we might offer him a coaching role? He sounds like a good guy to have around the dressing room anyway.

Great idea. He can teach the likes of young Forster how to take up poor positions and dive into tackles in the box!

eastterrace
31-05-2013, 03:16 PM
:top marks
Great idea. He can teach the likes of young Forster how to take up poor positions and dive into tackles in the box!

basehibby
31-05-2013, 03:23 PM
Bloody shame if true - lion hearted player who really made a difference to our team. Yes he was prone to the odd blunder but on balance a real asset to the side.

I wish him well in his op and hope the prognosis ends up much more positive than this thread suggests.

blackpoolhibs
31-05-2013, 03:26 PM
Great idea. He can teach the likes of young Forster how to take up poor positions and dive into tackles in the box!

Very poor :rolleyes:, he virtually single handedly kept us up last season, and has been injured most of this season, only playing with injections or injuries. I hope he can come back, but more importantly hope he's ok. :top marks

keep the faith
31-05-2013, 03:32 PM
Very poor :rolleyes:, he virtually single handedly kept us up last season, and has been injured most of this season, only playing with injections or injuries. I hope he can come back, but more importantly hope he's ok. :top marks

This

hfc rd
31-05-2013, 03:45 PM
Really sad news if true. We haven't had a passionate captain like him since Rob Jones. On his day, he is a terrific leader at the back. I'm sure if we never got him in last year and just accepted a CB pairing of Stephens & O'Hanlon we would have been relegated and not reached the first of two Scottish Cup finals in a row. Yes he can have the odd blunder but every defender is capable of having a moment to forget.

RIP Bestie
31-05-2013, 03:57 PM
Very poor :rolleyes:, he virtually single handedly kept us up last season, and has been injured most of this season, only playing with injections or injuries. I hope he can come back, but more importantly hope he's ok. :top marks

I agree but doesn't take way from the fact he is a bombscare

Devilstorment
31-05-2013, 03:57 PM
Really sad news if true. We haven't had a passionate captain like him since Rob Jones. On his day, he is a terrific leader at the back. I'm sure if we never got him in last year and just accepted a CB pairing of Stephens & O'Hanlon we would have been relegated and not reached the first of two Scottish Cup finals in a row. Yes he can have the odd blunder but every defender is capable of having a moment to forget.


If he didnt have the blunders he wouldnt be at Hibs cause a team down south would have him!

Hope he recovers. Is he actually going under the knife or is this rumour?

R'Albin
31-05-2013, 04:00 PM
Great idea. He can teach the likes of young Forster how to take up poor positions and dive into tackles in the box!

:rolleyes:

Not remember when he practically single-handedly kept us up a couple of seasons ago?

Edit - Just seen BH has replied with the exact same thing pretty much.

Green Fish
31-05-2013, 04:01 PM
Great idea. He can teach the likes of young Forster how to take up poor positions and dive into tackles in the box!

First post since the final, this one vexed me some what. That's our CAPTAIN ffs, if he'd been playing Sunday we may not have been 2 down so early.

Your opinion but show some respect. :confused:

lord bunberry
31-05-2013, 04:06 PM
Great idea. He can teach the likes of young Forster how to take up poor positions and dive into tackles in the box!

Are you for real, the guys career could be over and you come out with something like that.

The Green Goblin
31-05-2013, 04:10 PM
Great idea. He can teach the likes of young Forster how to take up poor positions and dive into tackles in the box!

Given the thread title and the rumours, was a bit of concern and respect for our own club captain who gives his all for the club on and off the field really too much to ask?

The Green Goblin
31-05-2013, 04:12 PM
First post since the final, this one vexed me some what. That's our CAPTAIN ffs, if he'd been playing Sunday we may not have been 2 down so early.

Your opinion but show some respect. :confused:

It's not an opinion though - it's an ill-judged sarcastic joke aimed at the club captain in response to the news his career might be at an end. Cue outraged "ffs get a sense of humour" and "pc brigade" responses.....

Vault Boy
31-05-2013, 04:14 PM
Great idea. He can teach the likes of young Forster how to take up poor positions and dive into tackles in the box!

Rubbish.

Vault Boy
31-05-2013, 04:15 PM
Very poor :rolleyes:, he virtually single handedly kept us up last season, and has been injured most of this season, only playing with injections or injuries. I hope he can come back, but more importantly hope he's ok. :top marks

Absolutely, it'd be brilliant to get James back to match fitness, would be nothing but a boost for himself and for the club.

heretoday
31-05-2013, 04:27 PM
He's a captain courageous type although not out of the top drawer skill-wise. I hope he recovers.

RIP
31-05-2013, 04:32 PM
People have been using messageboards for years to attack successive Hibs captains.

Used to be a yam troll tactic

Dinkydoo
31-05-2013, 04:45 PM
Really hope he is ok. He's been carrying a serious injury for years and it has evidently had a profound effect on his confidence and mobility this season.

He came in, saved us from relegation, helped change the defeatist mentality of the dressing room and was probably the only player to get pass marks in our 5 - 1 pumping by Hearts.

Any sly dig about McPake's form over the past 9 months says a lot more about the poster than James.

jeffers
31-05-2013, 05:29 PM
What operation ? I've only read here that he is going in for an operation, where is this rumour coming from ?

Jones28
31-05-2013, 05:34 PM
Great idea. He can teach the likes of young Forster how to take up poor positions and dive into tackles in the box!


:top marks


Pretty poor way to respond to our club captains career potentially being over. :rolleyes:

scoopyboy
31-05-2013, 05:36 PM
What operation ? I've only read here that he is going in for an operation, where is this rumour coming from ?

I've posted it on other thread.

Not a rumour, it's a FACT.

Always wanted to put FACT in block capitals in a post:greengrin

MWHIBBIES
31-05-2013, 05:42 PM
I agree but doesn't take way from the fact he is a bombscare:faf: That is a fact is it? Seems like an opinion to me and a fairly misguided one at that.

jeffers
31-05-2013, 05:43 PM
I've posted it on other thread.

Not a rumour, it's a FACT.

Always wanted to put FACT in block capitals in a post:greengrin

If its coming from you that's good enough for me, you are always spot on with your info scoopyboy. For my benefit please what exactlly is it you have heard, I haven't seen your other post ? Cheers.

SunshineOnLeith
31-05-2013, 06:09 PM
Whatever happens, there's always room for him to play an important role at Easter Road.

McHibby
31-05-2013, 06:22 PM
McPake has been poor when compared with the standard he set last season. But the fact he still pushed himself through the pain and continued to play despite his injury speaks volumes about his character. Some other players would just have been content to take it easy on the treatment table, collecting their wage regardless.

I really hope his op is successful.

Centre Hawf
31-05-2013, 06:25 PM
I hope to god this this isn't true. But i'd rather the guy hung up his boots than risk permanent damage by playing on. Then again i'm not a doctor so what i say doesn't matter, either way it should be whats 100% best for him and not the club in this instance.

ahibby
31-05-2013, 06:28 PM
Irrespective of what we think about James it can't be said that he was a good signing unless we got him for buttons because when he was playing all be it with an injury we were on a run of one win in something like thirteen or fourteen league games (maybe worse). Of course I wish him well and would like to see him back fit in the team because a fit JM would be a huge asset. Hibs knew about his injury as most of us did before he was signed so I assume he will be able to play after the op but maybe I have to much confidence.

Onion
31-05-2013, 06:33 PM
Very poor :rolleyes:, he virtually single handedly kept us up last season, and has been injured most of this season, only playing with injections or injuries. I hope he can come back, but more importantly hope he's ok. :top marks

:top marks

Iggy Pope
31-05-2013, 06:39 PM
Great idea. He can teach the likes of young Forster how to take up poor positions and dive into tackles in the box!

He obviously just has not played at your level bigbaws.

scoopyboy
31-05-2013, 06:50 PM
If its coming from you that's good enough for me, you are always spot on with your info scoopyboy. For my benefit please what exactlly is it you have heard, I haven't seen your other post ? Cheers.

I think it is imminent, in fact it wouldn't surprise me if he's had it.

Hibs aren't big on announcing this kind of thing, they prefer it to stay in the background.

There was a post final bash on George Street I think (can't remember the of the confounded place), James was one of the organisers but didn't attend.

Possibly travelling for op?

FranckSuzy
31-05-2013, 06:51 PM
He obviously just has not played at your level bigbaws.

:tee hee:

CallumHibs07
31-05-2013, 06:53 PM
He obviously just has not played at your level bigbaws.

So do we all have to be pro footballers to criticise players now?

Iggy Pope
31-05-2013, 06:57 PM
Great idea. He can teach the likes of young Forster how to take up poor positions and dive into tackles in the box!


So do we all have to be pro footballers to criticise players now?

:greengrin

hibsbollah
31-05-2013, 07:16 PM
Good luck James :aok:

AlbertK86
31-05-2013, 07:28 PM
Hope he gets sorted


Absolute captain fantastic 11-12 season

Blatantly obvious he has been hampered by injury but his passion for the club pushed him to the limits

Lets give him our backing and hope he gets back to his inspirational best

Good luck captain

GGTTH

hibeesjoe
31-05-2013, 07:50 PM
Hope his op goes well and he's back being a leader on the park soon, and long term injury free.

Bleeds green
31-05-2013, 07:52 PM
Hope his op goes well and he's back being a leader on the park soon, and long term injury free.

He could possibly be our biggest earner would we be paying him for another year??

Billy Whizz
31-05-2013, 07:58 PM
He could possibly be our biggest earner would we be paying him for another year??

I would hope so, as he's under contract

Bleeds green
31-05-2013, 08:01 PM
Was meaning would hibs be insured for such circumstances where the club would recoup those lost wages and the wages could be used in budget for another player/players

Northernhibee
31-05-2013, 08:28 PM
I've been criticising him this season but tbh hadn't realised that he'd been playing through so much of a pain barrier.

Eating my words, would love him to pull through this injury and to continue to be the epitome of Hibs Class next season.

SON OF PADDY
31-05-2013, 08:48 PM
Will be saying a wee prayer for James !
Hope all go's well and your back to your Best.. GGTTH

trev the hat
31-05-2013, 08:58 PM
Great idea. He can teach the likes of young Forster how to take up poor positions and dive into tackles in the box!

Lordy

Viva_Palmeiras
31-05-2013, 09:42 PM
O Captain! my captain!

jeffers
31-05-2013, 10:01 PM
I think it is imminent, in fact it wouldn't surprise me if he's had it.

Hibs aren't big on announcing this kind of thing, they prefer it to stay in the background.

There was a post final bash on George Street I think (can't remember the of the confounded place), James was one of the organisers but didn't attend.

Possibly travelling for op?

Thanks for that, much appreciated.

Hopefully the operation is a total success and firstly he is healthy and pain free and secondly he is able to return to the side and play to the standard he set when he first joined. A fully fit James McPake will be a huge boost to our chances of doing well next season.

skipster7
31-05-2013, 10:17 PM
I doubt he'd go in for quite a serious operation if there was no chance of playing again. Might be better to wait and see what the outcome is rather than listening to twattish rumours.
Dont know m8, as a someone with a back problem myself it could be just to ease the constant pain. Ive been told by 2specialists the only thing guaranteed by an op is a hole in my back ! Very risky op if its disc problems.

strummbo
31-05-2013, 10:34 PM
love to see him back in a hibs jersey. on his day and on his game, fantastic. we were in desperate need of him when asked. brought hanlon on, a constant talker and natural leader. dunno what more you could ask of a captain

madabouthibs
31-05-2013, 11:03 PM
We need him back as soon as possible, the guys been a revelation for our defence, and quite possibly brought young Hanlon back from the mediocre slide he was on. McPake is the kind of captain we need, plays with his heart on his sleeve. In hindsight, we could have done with him last weekend. :agree:

Thecat23
31-05-2013, 11:25 PM
I think it is imminent, in fact it wouldn't surprise me if he's had it.

Hibs aren't big on announcing this kind of thing, they prefer it to stay in the background.

There was a post final bash on George Street I think (can't remember the of the confounded place), James was one of the organisers but didn't attend.

Possibly travelling for op?

Was in Shanghi mate. Was a closed doors event but the guy who run the night opened it to the public after the result. Place was meant to have been bouncing still with players signing Hibs songs at the end.

Back to James, not sure if he's had the op but it will be touch and go if he plays again! The folk I spoke to didn't seem to confident he would. Fingers crossed he recovers as he's the type of guy we need in the changing room. If things don't go to plan I'd love Hibs to give him a coaching role. Maybury is doing well with the young lads helping out. Maybe James could also do that.

OsloHibs
01-06-2013, 01:56 AM
Great idea. He can teach the likes of young Forster how to take up poor positions and dive into tackles in the box!

You've gotta be a jambo with that reply. Surely NO HIBS FAN would ever stoop this low :bitchy:

WellingtonHibby
01-06-2013, 02:46 AM
James's middle name is "blocked by" . Fact.

Beefster
01-06-2013, 03:40 AM
Great idea. He can teach the likes of young Forster how to take up poor positions and dive into tackles in the box!

Given how much pain he's been playing through and how his career hangs in the balance, this is one of the most classless posts I've ever read on here.

If you're not a Hearts fud, you'd fit right in with them.

scoopyboy
01-06-2013, 07:12 AM
Was in Shanghi mate. Was a closed doors event but the guy who run the night opened it to the public after the result. Place was meant to have been bouncing still with players signing Hibs songs at the end.

Back to James, not sure if he's had the op but it will be touch and go if he plays again! The folk I spoke to didn't seem to confident he would. Fingers crossed he recovers as he's the type of guy we need in the changing room. If things don't go to plan I'd love Hibs to give him a coaching role. Maybury is doing well with the young lads helping out. Maybe James could also do that.

That's the fellow.

One of my mates had tickets for it and said it was a good night, despite the result.

Last season they had it back at ER but it didn't last long.

andy1875
01-06-2013, 07:17 AM
As much as this season wasn't a great one for James, he's still our captain and deserves our full backing.

He contributed a massive amount to keeping us up during the battle with the Pars.

Snide digs about his "box positions" etc are rank. Just no need when it's clear he's battled through the pain barrier. When you hear James speak about our club, theirs a passion in his voice that is extremely heartwarming, especially when you consider some of the players who have played for us in recent years who couldn't have cared less, win/lose or draw.

I for one hope James makes a full recovery and makes it back to the central defence role he is so clearly capable of doing well.

Good luck captain.

GGTTH

Kaiser1962
01-06-2013, 07:54 AM
He could possibly be our biggest earner would we be paying him for another year??

Of course we will, and rightly so. I like to think that Hibs usually do the right thing in these circumstances. I recall we renewed Tom Smith's contract after he was told he would never play again at 27 and didnt know what he was going to do. Hibs class.

James was always a gamble with his history. I wish him well.

down-the-slope
01-06-2013, 07:54 AM
Thing that surprises me is how many fans did not seem to know he had a long term injury issue (lower back) (this was probably the reason we were able to get him / take risk in first place)

Past season I have criticised the decision to keep playing him when his performances were all to apparently suffering - but he has just got on with it and has not bleated or made excuses - just hope he gets healthy and well for his and families sake - football secondary

Bleeds green
01-06-2013, 07:59 AM
Of course we will, and rightly so. I like to think that Hibs usually do the right thing in these circumstances. I recall we renewed Tom Smith's contract after he was told he would never play again at 27 and didnt know what he was going to do. Hibs class.

James was always a gamble with his history. I wish him well.

As I already said I meant are hibs insured where if this was a career ending injury his wages would be covered therefore be added to new player budget

lucky
01-06-2013, 08:02 AM
I hope he can pull through this latest injury nightmare. A fit James McPake is a major asset to the club. However if he can't get fit then Hibs have to make the decision to retire him or let him go. Clearly his performances this year have been poor bar the Celtic win at ER. Playing a player carrying an injury every week is not good and it has effected his worth to the team. But wind back 12 months and there were people on here wanting to have his babies. His first season at Hibs saved us from relegation and he deserves respect and support from us. If he has to finish up I hope Hibs give him a testimonial game.

Onceinawhile
01-06-2013, 08:54 AM
I wonder if fenlon had played Donaldson/forster earlier in the season, Mcpake's injury could have been managed better?

Either way I hope el capitan is back and fighting fit asap.

rcarter1
01-06-2013, 09:10 AM
I hope he can pull through this latest injury nightmare. A fit James McPake is a major asset to the club. However if he can't get fit then Hibs have to make the decision to retire him or let him go. Clearly his performances this year have been poor bar the Celtic win at ER. Playing a player carrying an injury every week is not good and it has effected his worth to the team. But wind back 12 months and there were people on here wanting to have his babies. His first season at Hibs saved us from relegation and he deserves respect and support from us. If he has to finish up I hope Hibs give him a testimonial game.

this. Some people turn as quickly as milk on a hot day. Id love to see James remain involved with the club in some capacity.

Eyrie
01-06-2013, 09:28 AM
After his performances and passion for our club I hope that the operation is a success for his future health, and if it enables him to keep playing for us that is a very nice bonus.

Bostonhibby
01-06-2013, 09:29 AM
You've gotta be a jambo with that reply. Surely NO HIBS FAN would ever stoop this low :bitchy:

Agree 100% with your assessment of the poster of post #9 above.

And if its not possible to out a Yam fud here I am assuming that an ordinary fud would be an acceptable alternative? We have always been the sort of club that supports a player with problems especially injuries that are not of their own making. Not really one for s******ing schoolboy attempts at humour,if humour is what it was meant to be. Crass attention seekings what it feels like.

sambajustice
01-06-2013, 09:42 AM
That's the fellow.

One of my mates had tickets for it and said it was a good night, despite the result.

Last season they had it back at ER but it didn't last long.

There was definitely a do back at Easter Road last week as well. Strange if the there were two post final bashes, unless some folk went up the town after ER

The Falcon
01-06-2013, 10:29 AM
this. Some people turn as quickly as milk on a hot day. Id love to see James remain involved with the club in some capacity.

As would I. He has always conducted himself well and represented the club in a very positive manner. A better ambassador we have not seen for many years.

Heisenberg
01-06-2013, 10:54 AM
He came in and understood what it meant to play for Hibs. Great captain and a major factor in our turnaround in attitude both on and off the pitch. It's been clear from his performances and the way he's carried himself on the pitch that something was wrong. Hope if he can't get sorted that he gets kept on in some capacity.

edinburghhibee
01-06-2013, 12:15 PM
I've been told by a fellow player (not at hibs I must add) that his op is on his groin not his back. Source said that it was James who told him this before the final.

jonny
01-06-2013, 01:50 PM
He came in and understood what it meant to play for Hibs. Great captain and a major factor in our turnaround in attitude both on and off the pitch. It's been clear from his performances and the way he's carried himself on the pitch that something was wrong. Hope if he can't get sorted that he gets kept on in some capacity.

Completely agree - add to that he's the only Hibs player to score in a Scottish cup final in my lifetime (I'm 32!)

mjhibby
01-06-2013, 02:42 PM
I wonder if fenlon had played Donaldson/forster earlier in the season, Mcpake's injury could have been managed better?

Either way I hope el capitan is back and fighting fit asap.

Donaldson was about to play then got injured.Plus nobody could have foreseen the impact forster has made.As fenlon has already hinted that hibs will be using the younger players as part of the squad more regularly i think we can assume that harris,handling,caldwell,forster and donaldson we be in the 16 every week and the likes of horribine and jay doyle will be knocking on the door very soon.Could this be another golden generation we are talking about.I know its a bit early to say but you can see a few of the younger lads going a long way in the game

edwards
01-06-2013, 02:57 PM
McPake has been an inspiration for the club the day he walked throught the entrance at ER. We all new he had a problem and hope that this is only a groin injury which can be mended. All the b est for next season James :wink:

J-C
01-06-2013, 09:44 PM
McPake has been an inspiration for the club the day he walked throught the entrance at ER. We all new he had a problem and hope that this is only a groin injury which can be mended. All the b est for next season James :wink:

Bit more serious than a groin injury, has a fairly serious back injury which has been on going since 2011, probably why Coventry allowed him to come here in the first place.

Onceinawhile
01-06-2013, 11:58 PM
Donaldson was about to play then got injured.Plus nobody could have foreseen the impact forster has made.As fenlon has already hinted that hibs will be using the younger players as part of the squad more regularly i think we can assume that harris,handling,caldwell,forster and donaldson we be in the 16 every week and the likes of horribine and jay doyle will be knocking on the door very soon.Could this be another golden generation we are talking about.I know its a bit early to say but you can see a few of the younger lads going a long way in the game

Wasn't a dig at him, I'm well behind Patrick, was more a hindsight view. I also don't quite agree, I more meant them playing every 3td or 4th game right from the start of the season rather than jazza starting athe first 25-30 games.

edinburghhibee
02-06-2013, 06:35 AM
Bit more serious than a groin injury, has a fairly serious back injury which has been on going since 2011, probably why Coventry allowed him to come here in the first place.

Yeah I'm aware of the previous and current back problems, but what I was told was that his operation is in his groin and it was this that kept him out of the final not his back.

Regardless I love James' passion and energy for the team and wish him a speedy recovery anyhow!! We need a fit mcpake in our team!

J-C
02-06-2013, 06:42 AM
Sometimes back problems are also connected to the groin area, if he has a groin problem it tightens up the lower back, either way it's pretty serious and we all hope one way or another he recovers quickly to get back to the player we first got in January 2012.

hibeenicol
02-06-2013, 11:22 AM
Really hope whatever surgery he has is successful and he can get back playing to he standard he was at when he first joined the club.
Having just had back surgery myself on Tuesday I can relate to him and if he was carrying this injury throughout the season and continuing to play for us tells me the heart and determination James mcpake has for hibs.
Hopefully see him back in the centre of our defence next season.

SaulGoodman
02-06-2013, 04:37 PM
Great idea. He can teach the likes of young Forster how to take up poor positions and dive into tackles in the box!

That would've been classless even if it was another teams player, nevermind one of our own.

Johnny Clash
02-06-2013, 05:22 PM
My mate knows him pretty well ... and says it's not certain that he'll need a back operation.

James broke a bone in his back when he played with Coventry and it looks like his old injury has flared up.

Everyone's hoping that giving his back a rest will be enough.

The consultant will look at it after our captain couragous gets back from his holidays.

So... here's hoping!!

MyJo
02-06-2013, 05:41 PM
Hope gets back to his best for the new season and the emergence of Forster should allow us the option to give James a rest when he needs it and not have him breaking down again or having to play through such pain

Billy Whizz
02-06-2013, 06:52 PM
My mate knows him pretty well ... and says it's not certain that he'll need a back operation.

James broke a bone in his back when he played with Coventry and it looks like his old injury has flared up.

Everyone's hoping that giving his back a rest will be enough.

The consultant will look at it after our captain couragous gets back from his holidays.

So... here's hoping!!

That's a bit more positive news, thanks for the update

Borderhibbie76
02-06-2013, 07:41 PM
Get well soon James....we want our captain back and fighting fit!!

18/03/07
02-06-2013, 08:47 PM
My mate knows him pretty well ... and says it's not certain that he'll need a back operation.

James broke a bone in his back when he played with Coventry and it looks like his old injury has flared up.

Everyone's hoping that giving his back a rest will be enough.

The consultant will look at it after our captain couragous gets back from his holidays.

So... here's hoping!!

I heard it was a rash challange from Rory Fallon that done his back in from his coventry days,not sure who Fallon played for

Boydyhfc
02-06-2013, 08:48 PM
I heard it was a rash challange from Rory Fallon that done his back in from his coventry days,not sure who Fallon played for

Plymouth?

Bostonhibby
02-06-2013, 10:19 PM
Where's rip bestie gone?

Stevie Reid
06-06-2013, 08:53 AM
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20130606/mcpake-targeting-return_2262950_3201807

DAVE1875
06-06-2013, 08:55 AM
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20130606/mcpake-targeting-return_2262950_3201807


:thumbsup:

TAHibby
06-06-2013, 09:02 AM
:thumbsup:

Can't get on site for some reason... Good news about Mcpake?!

Hibby Gav
06-06-2013, 09:02 AM
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20130606/mcpake-targeting-return_2262950_3201807

If we can get our captain back as he was when he arrived this is brilliant news !

GGTTH

Stevie Reid
06-06-2013, 09:05 AM
Can't get on site for some reason... Good news about Mcpake?!

James McPake says he is looking forward to returning to pre-season training in 12 days' time after missing out on leading Hibernian out at last month's Scottish Cup Final.

The defender was ruled out for the match at Hampden after aggravating a lower back injury.

But the 28-year-old says he is now planning to return to training when the pre-season schedule starts in less than two weeks' time.

McPake said: "I'm aiming to be back fit and back in training when pre-season starts, so that I'm up to speed when the matches start.

"It promises to be an exciting season for Hibs with the Europa League qualifiers and we will also be looking to build on last season in the SPL.

"It was a massive disappointment to miss out on the Cup Final. I thought I'd done enough to make myself available for selection.

"But then in the week leading up to the Final I experienced another set-back. It was really tough to take because I would have loved to have led the team out at Hampden.

"Now I'm focusing all my energy on coming back stronger and helping the team next season - improving on what we did last year and making more progress."

During the 2012/13 season, McPake recorded 32 starts - only Jorge Claros (35), Paul Hanlon (39), Leigh Griffiths (42) and Ben Williams (43) made more appearances for Hibernian.

The centre-half is currently recharging his batteries ahead of the 2013/14 campaign and was keen to quash internet rumours claiming he had undergone back surgery.

He added: "I'm enjoying a brief summer holiday at the moment before the start of pre-season and I'm also looking forward to becoming a dad for the first time in August.

"Some friends have been in touch with me recently about these rumours, but they aren't true - I haven't had an operation and I'm not planning to have one.

"My main aim now is to put everything I can into making Hibernian successful next season and give our inspirational supporters something to cheer about."

The new Hibernian Nike home kit will be unveiled tomorrow at 10am (click here for more info)

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TAHibby
06-06-2013, 09:11 AM
James McPake says he is looking forward to returning to pre-season training in 12 days' time after missing out on leading Hibernian out at last month's Scottish Cup Final.



The defender was ruled out for the match at Hampden after aggravating a lower back injury.

But the 28-year-old says he is now planning to return to training when the pre-season schedule starts in less than two weeks' time.

McPake said: "I'm aiming to be back fit and back in training when pre-season starts, so that I'm up to speed when the matches start.

"It promises to be an exciting season for Hibs with the Europa League qualifiers and we will also be looking to build on last season in the SPL.

"It was a massive disappointment to miss out on the Cup Final. I thought I'd done enough to make myself available for selection.

"But then in the week leading up to the Final I experienced another set-back. It was really tough to take because I would have loved to have led the team out at Hampden.

"Now I'm focusing all my energy on coming back stronger and helping the team next season - improving on what we did last year and making more progress."

During the 2012/13 season, McPake recorded 32 starts - only Jorge Claros (35), Paul Hanlon (39), Leigh Griffiths (42) and Ben Williams (43) made more appearances for Hibernian.

The centre-half is currently recharging his batteries ahead of the 2013/14 campaign and was keen to quash internet rumours claiming he had undergone back surgery.

He added: "I'm enjoying a brief summer holiday at the moment before the start of pre-season and I'm also looking forward to becoming a dad for the first time in August.

"Some friends have been in touch with me recently about these rumours, but they aren't true - I haven't had an operation and I'm not planning to have one.

"My main aim now is to put everything I can into making Hibernian successful next season and give our inspirational supporters something to cheer about."

The new Hibernian Nike home kit will be unveiled tomorrow at 10am (click here for more info)

Are you excited about the 13/14 season? Show your support by signing up for a Season Ticket Membership (click here).

Cheers! Glad operation rumours are rubbish.

Billy Whizz
06-06-2013, 09:31 AM
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20130606/mcpake-targeting-return_2262950_3201807

Great news, wonder where all these rumours came from?

Beefster
06-06-2013, 09:36 AM
Great news, wonder where all these rumours came from?

An operation has possibly been mentioned in passing at Hibs so someone inside the club has completely jumped the gun and stated, as fact, that he's having an operation. Most of these things start with something minor and, by the principle of chinese whispers, turn into something major.

It's why most things online should be taken with a pinch of salt, tbh.

Billy Whizz
06-06-2013, 09:48 AM
An operation has possibly been mentioned in passing at Hibs so someone inside the club has completely jumped the gun and stated, as fact, that he's having an operation. Most of these things start with something minor and, by the principle of chinese whispers, turn into something major.

It's why most things online should be taken with a pinch of salt, tbh.

I agree, but we all like a bit of gossip, keeps this board active!!!

IWasThere2016
06-06-2013, 10:30 AM
:thumbsup:

The Leith Dutch
06-06-2013, 11:11 AM
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20130606/mcpake-targeting-return_2262950_3201807

Great news that :)

Was getting quite concerned with the rumours.

I make that a defence of:

McPake, Hanlon, McGivern, Forster, Clancy, Stevenson and Donaldson (possibly Booth though I'm not sure where he's at)
If we kept Maybury in a player/coach role I'd be OK with us going into next season with that defence - it's by no means watertight but I think Pat Fenlon needs to be looking
for probably a winger, another attacking mid and two strikers and I'd wager that's more budget then he actually has.

Billychaotic182
06-06-2013, 11:14 AM
Fantastic news!!!!!

hibsbollah
06-06-2013, 11:24 AM
'I havent had an operation and im not planning to have one'.

A lesson to us all not to believe rumours unquestioningly. I was getting a bit worried. Glad its got as much substance as the infamous Liam Miller to Hearts or the Konte to Liverpool rumours. :agree:

blackpoolhibs
06-06-2013, 11:28 AM
I'm not so sure this is the great news it seems, his back i presume has not just suddenly healed.

It could be more of the same i'd have thought, James missing big parts of the season unless i'm missing something here?:confused:

Onceinawhile
06-06-2013, 11:46 AM
I'm not so sure this is the great news it seems, his back i presume has not just suddenly healed.

It could be more of the same i'd have thought, James missing big parts of the season unless i'm missing something here?:confused:

It's not really "more of the same" if he played 32 games last season though is it?:confused:

Allant1981
06-06-2013, 11:47 AM
I'm not so sure this is the great news it seems, his back i presume has not just suddenly healed.

It could be more of the same i'd have thought, James missing big parts of the season unless i'm missing something here?:confused:

He hasnt really missed big parts of this season though, although his injury jas probably been why he hasnt played that well this season

brydekirk
06-06-2013, 11:50 AM
I agree with Blackpool, cant see a short holiday making him 100% for the whole of next season.
Hope im wrong.
Anyway we have good cover in young Jorden.

blackpoolhibs
06-06-2013, 11:50 AM
It's not really "more of the same" if he played 32 games last season though is it?:confused:

When i say more of the same, i mean him struggling through games clearly not playing to his best. Is that down to him nursing his injury, or just poor play? I think its him just doing enough to get through games, while not really being right.

The player we saw when he first arrived is nowhere near the one we see now. :confused:

Scouse Hibee
06-06-2013, 11:54 AM
Why the excitement?

No operation so no conclusive end to his problems, he will obviously continue to manage his back problem and hope that he can get through as many games as possible. Whether he can perform to the heights that we hope/expect he can with his back problems will only be proven next season surely?

J-C
06-06-2013, 11:58 AM
Why the excitement?

No operation so no conclusive end to his problems, he will obviously continue to manage his back problem and hope that he can get through as many games as possible. Whether he can perform to the heights that we hope/expect he can with his back problems will only be proven next season surely?

Thing is an operation gives no guarantee to fix things and can even make things worse, specially dealing with the spine. If it's just rest and physio then all the better, maybe we'll see less of him similar to Ferdinand at Man U, same problem with his back.

Spike Mandela
06-06-2013, 11:58 AM
James McPake says he is looking forward to returning to pre-season training in 12 days' time after missing out on leading Hibernian out at last month's Scottish Cup Final.

The defender was ruled out for the match at Hampden after aggravating a lower back injury.

But the 28-year-old says he is now planning to return to training when the pre-season schedule starts in less than two weeks' time.

McPake said: "I'm aiming to be back fit and back in training when pre-season starts, so that I'm up to speed when the matches start.

"It promises to be an exciting season for Hibs with the Europa League qualifiers and we will also be looking to build on last season in the SPL.

"It was a massive disappointment to miss out on the Cup Final. I thought I'd done enough to make myself available for selection.

"But then in the week leading up to the Final I experienced another set-back. It was really tough to take because I would have loved to have led the team out at Hampden.

"Now I'm focusing all my energy on coming back stronger and helping the team next season - improving on what we did last year and making more progress."

During the 2012/13 season, McPake recorded 32 starts - only Jorge Claros (35), Paul Hanlon (39), Leigh Griffiths (42) and Ben Williams (43) made more appearances for Hibernian.

The centre-half is currently recharging his batteries ahead of the 2013/14 campaign and was keen to quash internet rumours claiming he had undergone back surgery.

He added: "I'm enjoying a brief summer holiday at the moment before the start of pre-season and I'm also looking forward to becoming a dad for the first time in August.

"Some friends have been in touch with me recently about these rumours, but they aren't true - I haven't had an operation and I'm not planning to have one.

"My main aim now is to put everything I can into making Hibernian successful next season and give our inspirational supporters something to cheer about."

The new Hibernian Nike home kit will be unveiled tomorrow at 10am (click here for more info)

Are you excited about the 13/14 season? Show your support by signing up for a Season Ticket Membership (click here).

Remember to pay £1 on a credit card and the rest in cash in case you need to claim it back.:wink::greengrin

Scouse Hibee
06-06-2013, 12:03 PM
Thing is an operation gives no guarantee to fix things and can even make things worse, specially dealing with the spine. If it's just rest and physio then all the better, maybe we'll see less of him similar to Ferdinand at Man U, same problem with his back.


Yes I understand that an operation gives no guarantee. My point was that I hope James can show us that he's capable of the high level of performances we have seen in the past rather than the poor performances of late attributed to his back problem.

ian cruise
06-06-2013, 12:07 PM
In the comi g season with the emergence of young Jordan hopefully Janes can rest a bit more throughout the season so he's not suffering or having to take injections

Thecat23
06-06-2013, 12:43 PM
Not sure if Hibs have just put this out to lift the fans. But James is miles away from fitness. He was refused treatment by an English specialist and that's why he went to Ireland. His injury is very serious. I honestly don't think he will play anywhere near as many games this season if he doesn't get this fixed. Just because he says he's looking forward to pre season doesn't mean he's ready. Just like the cup final he was never making that in a million years and he knew it so did Hibs.

Beefster
06-06-2013, 02:47 PM
Not sure if Hibs have just put this out to lift the fans. But James is miles away from fitness. He was refused treatment by an English specialist and that's why he went to Ireland. His injury is very serious. I honestly don't think he will play anywhere near as many games this season if he doesn't get this fixed. Just because he says he's looking forward to pre season doesn't mean he's ready. Just like the cup final he was never making that in a million years and he knew it so did Hibs.

Hibs have put it out to quash the rumours that he's having an operation and probably won't play again IMHO.

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06-06-2013, 03:29 PM
Not sure if Hibs have just put this out to lift the fans. But James is miles away from fitness. He was refused treatment by an English specialist and that's why he went to Ireland. His injury is very serious. I honestly don't think he will play anywhere near as many games this season if he doesn't get this fixed. Just because he says he's looking forward to pre season doesn't mean he's ready. Just like the cup final he was never making that in a million years and he knew it so did Hibs.


:agree:

Sadly I have to agree. A serious back injury doesn't just go away with rest.

It's not about James playing some games - it's about him playing well, and even more it's about him not aggravating the injury and damaging his fitness and health long-term.

scoopyboy
06-06-2013, 03:46 PM
I have carefully read his statement and cannot say that he is lying.

However an operation was planned and it has obviously been cancelled for whatever reason.

So when he says he hasn't had an op I believe him, when he says he isn't planning to have an op I believe him.

What he doesn't say was that he was going to have one and told the players that's why he wasn't attending the night out after the final. A night out he was an organiser of.

I hope he returns fit for the pre season and plays to his potential, he has been a great player, captain and ambassador for the club.

J-C
06-06-2013, 05:18 PM
Yes I understand that an operation gives no guarantee. My point was that I hope James can show us that he's capable of the high level of performances we have seen in the past rather than the poor performances of late attributed to his back problem.

Yes me too, maybe managing his on field time similar to Ferdinand, will keep him fit enough attain the heights he achieved earlier, pretty sure his injury is the same as his.

adhibs
06-06-2013, 05:34 PM
Yes me too, maybe managing his on field time similar to Ferdinand, will keep him fit enough attain the heights he achieved earlier, pretty sure his injury is the same as his.

could work well. mcpake playing to the standard we know he can with forster filling in and geting more first team experience, without the pressure of playing every week

J-C
06-06-2013, 05:57 PM
could work well. mcpake playing to the standard we know he can with forster filling in and geting more first team experience, without the pressure of playing every week


Seems to have worked well at Man U, with Vidic and Ferdinand being injured or playing infrequently, Jones etc have come on a treat there.

blackpoolhibs
06-06-2013, 05:59 PM
McPake really needs to recapture the form he had when at the club on loan. This injury problem has not gone away with rest in the past, at coventry or at easter road. I very much doubt it will just disappear now with a few weeks rest.

I hope he can come back and play like we all know he can, but for me this is just words. He's got a bad back problem and we cant afford to be playing an unfit James McPake.

Unless he makes a miraculous recovery, then we need to sign another central defender to battle it out with Hanlon and Forster next season.

J-C
06-06-2013, 08:30 PM
McPake really needs to recapture the form he had when at the club on loan. This injury problem has not gone away with rest in the past, at coventry or at easter road. I very much doubt it will just disappear now with a few weeks rest.

I hope he can come back and play like we all know he can, but for me this is just words. He's got a bad back problem and we cant afford to be playing an unfit James McPake.

Unless he makes a miraculous recovery, then we need to sign another central defender to battle it out with Hanlon and Forster next season.

McGivern can cover there, was good earlier this season paired with Hanlon, Stevenson could cover LB for McGivern.

blackpoolhibs
06-06-2013, 08:47 PM
McGivern can cover there, was good earlier this season paired with Hanlon, Stevenson could cover LB for McGivern.

I'm not interested in cover, i want us strong at the back. I have had enough of playing players out of position or going with stand ins at the back. Either he's going to be fit, or we get in someone who will be, and McPake can be the player who steps in when we have injuries or suspensions.

Baldy Foghorn
06-06-2013, 08:53 PM
I'm not interested in cover, i want us strong at the back. I have had enough of playing players out of position or going with stand ins at the back. Either he's going to be fit, or we get in someone who will be, and McPake can be the player who steps in when we have injuries or suspensions.

Agree, defence has been a problem for us, I want us to be strong at the back, in fact strong in all areas over the park. When you pick up papers, Dundee Utd, Motherwell et al, seem to be losing their "big" players.

Really see a chance for us to improve our league standing next Season, actually getting quite excited at the prospect already......Not two weeks have elapsed since our last fixture, but I am champing at the bit again.....

blackpoolhibs
06-06-2013, 08:58 PM
Agree, defence has been a problem for us, I want us to be strong at the back, in fact strong in all areas over the park. When you pick up papers, Dundee Utd, Motherwell et al, seem to be losing their "big" players.

Really see a chance for us to improve our league standing next Season, actually getting quite excited at the prospect already......Not two weeks have elapsed since our last fixture, but I am champing at the bit again.....

I think our defense has been a problem, but not for the reasons a lot of people have mentioned. I personally think its been because of numerous injuries to Clancy McPake and Hanlon. We have had to play with Maybury and Stevenson as full back much too often, and McPake has clearly been struggling.

Build the team with a strong spine they used to say, well lets start now.

Baldy Foghorn
06-06-2013, 09:06 PM
I think our defense has been a problem, but not for the reasons a lot of people have mentioned. I personally think its been because of numerous injuries to Clancy McPake and Hanlon. We have had to play with Maybury and Stevenson as full back much too often, and McPake has clearly been struggling.

Build the team with a strong spine they used to say, well lets start now.

Indeed.......I would also like to see us trying to stop the first ball into our box quicker, and want the full backs to stop backing off....A start that would do for me

Holmesdale Hibs
06-06-2013, 09:20 PM
Glad the rumours weren't true. Definitely an asset and one of our best players when fully fit. Hope he can stay injury free next season.

GordonHFC
07-06-2013, 05:17 PM
I have heard that he was dropped for the Hearts and Celtic games because of a major falling out with PF.

J-C
07-06-2013, 06:29 PM
I'm not interested in cover, i want us strong at the back. I have had enough of playing players out of position or going with stand ins at the back. Either he's going to be fit, or we get in someone who will be, and McPake can be the player who steps in when we have injuries or suspensions.

I meant if McPake isn't going to be our no.1, then McGivern can be, I think he's a better CH than LB, only problem being having 2 left footed CH's gives the defence an imbalance. Like you I've been hugely disappointed with McPake and if he isn't going to be fit enough to lead us, then we need to get someone in who can do the job, whether that's Forster or McGivern but we need cohesion in the defence.

Andy74
07-06-2013, 06:56 PM
Great news, wonder where all these rumours came from?

The one I heard came direct from a mate of McPake so I do believe there's been some concern over his career. We will see.

scoopyboy
08-06-2013, 04:57 AM
I have heard that he was dropped for the Hearts and Celtic games because of a major falling out with PF.

Not saying you are wrong but its not something I have heard, and to be honest if it was true I would have thought myself or others in here would have known about it.

GordonHFC
08-06-2013, 05:52 AM
Not saying you are wrong but its not something I have heard, and to be honest if it was true I would have thought myself or others in here would have known about it.

All I will say scoop is that this info does come from someone who would definitely know.

Diclonius
08-06-2013, 10:38 AM
Konte to Liverpool

Wait, what?

scoopyboy
08-06-2013, 03:49 PM
All I will say scoop is that this info does come from someone who would definitely know.

Fair enough mate.

Viva_Palmeiras
08-06-2013, 06:25 PM
I have heard that he was dropped for the Hearts and Celtic games because of a major falling out with PF.

Can only be good news - I mean it did wonders for Sparky. Maybe the whole team should line up and take pots shots at PF ;)

Vault Boy
22-06-2013, 11:36 AM
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hibs-skipper-james-mcpake-winning-1978026?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

More positive signs from James, let's hope he's not pushing himself too and allows himself maximum time to recover. :aok:
Also mentions that Spoony, Thomson and Murdoch have been in training despite coming to the end of their contracts and we're working on new deals for them.

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22-06-2013, 02:17 PM
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hibs-skipper-james-mcpake-winning-1978026?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

More positive signs from James, let's hope he's not pushing himself too and allows himself maximum time to recover. :aok:
Also mentions that Spoony, Thomson and Murdoch have been in training despite coming to the end of their contracts and we're working on new deals for them.


Four players training at EM means coaching staff in with them. I can't see James overdoing things - or being allowed to.

This is better news than I expected. Hope it continues. :clapper:

YehButNoBut
30-06-2013, 11:24 PM
Don't think James is very happy with those on internet messageboards who were stating his career was over and brands them a JOKE in this Sun article.

So hopefully he is fully fit again as a fit & fired up McPake will be a huge asset to Hibs this coming season.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/4990935/Web-of-lies.html

Web of lies

Fit McPake blasts online claims that his career was over

JAMES McPAKE savaged the internet scaremongers who claimed his career was over.

The Hibs skipper returned to action against Dumbarton at the weekend after missing May’s Scottish Cup final with a back injury. McPake, 29, quickly rounded on the faceless fans who spread malicious online rumours that he was about to retire this summer. The Easter Road skipper insists his career is NOT in danger — and challenged the culprits to repeat their false claims to his face.

He said: “The people who put that stuff out there are a shambles. “They think they have power. They go on internet messageboards and think that, because they know somebody, they must know everything. “It just spreads from there. They must love the power. They must love the idea that so many people are listening to them. They are a JOKE.

“They are not proper fans, if you ask me. They just want to make a name for themselves. “If they know that much and are so confident about their information, then I’d ask them to come and speak to me about it instead of putting it on an internet forum or Twitter.

“I am big enough to handle it, but it is other people who suffer. “I’d people from my wife’s family texting her and saying: ‘Is this true?’ and ‘It is all over Twitter’.
“It does not bother me in the slightest, I know the condition I am in and I know what my body can do. “They can write what they want, it doesn’t affect me and it does not influence the manager’s thinking. “I had a laugh to myself when I read it. I spoke to people and said: ‘How can you believe that?’”

McPake played the last 22 minutes as Hibs kicked off their pre-season campaign with a draw against Ian Murray’s Sons. He hopes his first appearance since late April will finally make the keyboard commandos shut up. He added: “It is bizarre how they go out of their way to make you suffer. Then probably two or three of them were in the crowd on Saturday applauding when I came on and saying, ‘Oh look, he’s moving all right’.

“The rumours will probably start again this week if I don’t play against Gibraltar because we are on an astroturf park. “I’ll probably have had a big flare up and that’s me finished again — for the second time in three months! “There were no problems at all against Dumbarton. For the 25 minutes I was on it felt good. “That was always the plan — to get on for that in the second half. The fans were great with me. “It was important game-time and I even went on a wee mazy run forward — I got a bit carried away!”

Hibs, playing less than five weeks after their Hampden defeat to Celtic, had the better of the first half. Summer signings Owain Tudur Jones and Liam Craig were handed debuts in midfield, but Fraser Mullen signed too late. Murray’s First Division side play some good stuff and Kevin Smith hit the woodwork before half-time. Hibs winger Alex Harris got a lucky break to put Fenlon’s men ahead early in the second half — but Ally McKerracher soon equalised.

The Easter Road side jet out to Spain today for a training camp and games against Gibraltar and Nottingham Forest. McPake admits it’s the perfect start to the season — with a Europa League tie against Drogheda or Malmo just around the corner.

He said: “There is an excitement around the club about the European games. I’ve never played European football before and we’re all buzzing.“Everybody knows what a great venue Easter Road is when everyone is behind you. We believe we can fill it for this tie and it will be an eye-opener for the new boys. “Sometimes things have not been good enough for a club of this standard, yet the fans are always behind us. “When I think about how excited I am — they must be buzzing. “It makes starting pre-season early worthwhile.”

Story also in the Scotsman

James McPake attacks internet cynics on injury talk

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spl/james-mcpake-attacks-internet-cynics-on-injury-talk-1-2984168

JohnStephens91
01-07-2013, 01:02 AM
Don't think James is very happy with those on internet messageboards who were stating his career was over and brands them a JOKE in this Sun article.

So hopefully he is fully fit again as a fit & fired up McPake will be a huge asset to Hibs this coming season.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/4990935/Web-of-lies.html

Web of lies

Fit McPake blasts online claims that his career was over

JAMES McPAKE savaged the internet scaremongers who claimed his career was over.

The Hibs skipper returned to action against Dumbarton at the weekend after missing May’s Scottish Cup final with a back injury. McPake, 29, quickly rounded on the faceless fans who spread malicious online rumours that he was about to retire this summer. The Easter Road skipper insists his career is NOT in danger — and challenged the culprits to repeat their false claims to his face.

He said: “The people who put that stuff out there are a shambles. “They think they have power. They go on internet messageboards and think that, because they know somebody, they must know everything. “It just spreads from there. They must love the power. They must love the idea that so many people are listening to them. They are a JOKE.

“They are not proper fans, if you ask me. They just want to make a name for themselves. “If they know that much and are so confident about their information, then I’d ask them to come and speak to me about it instead of putting it on an internet forum or Twitter.

“I am big enough to handle it, but it is other people who suffer. “I’d people from my wife’s family texting her and saying: ‘Is this true?’ and ‘It is all over Twitter’.
“It does not bother me in the slightest, I know the condition I am in and I know what my body can do. “They can write what they want, it doesn’t affect me and it does not influence the manager’s thinking. “I had a laugh to myself when I read it. I spoke to people and said: ‘How can you believe that?’”

McPake played the last 22 minutes as Hibs kicked off their pre-season campaign with a draw against Ian Murray’s Sons. He hopes his first appearance since late April will finally make the keyboard commandos shut up. He added: “It is bizarre how they go out of their way to make you suffer. Then probably two or three of them were in the crowd on Saturday applauding when I came on and saying, ‘Oh look, he’s moving all right’.

“The rumours will probably start again this week if I don’t play against Gibraltar because we are on an astroturf park. “I’ll probably have had a big flare up and that’s me finished again — for the second time in three months! “There were no problems at all against Dumbarton. For the 25 minutes I was on it felt good. “That was always the plan — to get on for that in the second half. The fans were great with me. “It was important game-time and I even went on a wee mazy run forward — I got a bit carried away!”

Hibs, playing less than five weeks after their Hampden defeat to Celtic, had the better of the first half. Summer signings Owain Tudur Jones and Liam Craig were handed debuts in midfield, but Fraser Mullen signed too late. Murray’s First Division side play some good stuff and Kevin Smith hit the woodwork before half-time. Hibs winger Alex Harris got a lucky break to put Fenlon’s men ahead early in the second half — but Ally McKerracher soon equalised.

The Easter Road side jet out to Spain today for a training camp and games against Gibraltar and Nottingham Forest. McPake admits it’s the perfect start to the season — with a Europa League tie against Drogheda or Malmo just around the corner.

He said: “There is an excitement around the club about the European games. I’ve never played European football before and we’re all buzzing.“Everybody knows what a great venue Easter Road is when everyone is behind you. We believe we can fill it for this tie and it will be an eye-opener for the new boys. “Sometimes things have not been good enough for a club of this standard, yet the fans are always behind us. “When I think about how excited I am — they must be buzzing. “It makes starting pre-season early worthwhile.”

Story also in the Scotsman

James McPake attacks internet cynics on injury talk

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spl/james-mcpake-attacks-internet-cynics-on-injury-talk-1-2984168

His criticism is founded on solid ground in my opinion. People who had no reputable source and posted the rumours deserve the criticism from James.

Cameron1875
01-07-2013, 01:38 AM
That article doesn't make him come across very well imo. I understand him being annoyed at the fans who spread that unfounded info but he goes a bit too far saying everyone on here and twitter is a joke and not real fans?!

ScottB
01-07-2013, 02:35 AM
It was pretty clear something was up with him at the end of last season. Fans gather and like to speculate, whether online or not, so to launch an attack against them / us is a bit strange.

That and we've had some fairly credible posters saying he was indeed in a bad way, maybe this over the top denial is James' way of moving on from it.

He should also note that while there was much speculation about him, everyone has been rooting for his recovery.

hibbymac
01-07-2013, 05:13 AM
That article doesn't make him come across very well imo. I understand him being annoyed at the fans who spread that unfounded info but he goes a bit too far saying everyone on here and twitter is a joke and not real fans?!

:confused: where does he say that ??

Beefster
01-07-2013, 06:03 AM
That article doesn't make him come across very well imo. I understand him being annoyed at the fans who spread that unfounded info but he goes a bit too far saying everyone on here and twitter is a joke and not real fans?!

You've just done the type of thing that he's criticising and completely made something up. Good job.

Beefster
01-07-2013, 06:05 AM
It was pretty clear something was up with him at the end of last season. Fans gather and like to speculate, whether online or not, so to launch an attack against them / us is a bit strange.

That and we've had some fairly credible posters saying he was indeed in a bad way, maybe this over the top denial is James' way of moving on from it.

He should also note that while there was much speculation about him, everyone has been rooting for his recovery.

I don't think he's criticising the speculation. He's criticising the folk who heard a snippet of information or made something up and posted, as fact, that his career was hanging in the balance and that he would definitely need an operation before he could play again.

He's offered to discuss the situation with those folk so it should be easy enough to resolve.

Weir7
01-07-2013, 06:06 AM
Don't think James is very happy with those on internet messageboards who were stating his career was over and brands them a JOKE in this Sun article.

So hopefully he is fully fit again as a fit & fired up McPake will be a huge asset to Hibs this coming season.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/4990935/Web-of-lies.html

Web of lies

Fit McPake blasts online claims that his career was over

JAMES McPAKE savaged the internet scaremongers who claimed his career was over.

The Hibs skipper returned to action against Dumbarton at the weekend after missing May’s Scottish Cup final with a back injury. McPake, 29, quickly rounded on the faceless fans who spread malicious online rumours that he was about to retire this summer. The Easter Road skipper insists his career is NOT in danger — and challenged the culprits to repeat their false claims to his face.

He said: “The people who put that stuff out there are a shambles. “They think they have power. They go on internet messageboards and think that, because they know somebody, they must know everything. “It just spreads from there. They must love the power. They must love the idea that so many people are listening to them. They are a JOKE.

“They are not proper fans, if you ask me. They just want to make a name for themselves. “If they know that much and are so confident about their information, then I’d ask them to come and speak to me about it instead of putting it on an internet forum or Twitter.

“I am big enough to handle it, but it is other people who suffer. “I’d people from my wife’s family texting her and saying: ‘Is this true?’ and ‘It is all over Twitter’.
“It does not bother me in the slightest, I know the condition I am in and I know what my body can do. “They can write what they want, it doesn’t affect me and it does not influence the manager’s thinking. “I had a laugh to myself when I read it. I spoke to people and said: ‘How can you believe that?’”

McPake played the last 22 minutes as Hibs kicked off their pre-season campaign with a draw against Ian Murray’s Sons. He hopes his first appearance since late April will finally make the keyboard commandos shut up. He added: “It is bizarre how they go out of their way to make you suffer. Then probably two or three of them were in the crowd on Saturday applauding when I came on and saying, ‘Oh look, he’s moving all right’.

“The rumours will probably start again this week if I don’t play against Gibraltar because we are on an astroturf park. “I’ll probably have had a big flare up and that’s me finished again — for the second time in three months! “There were no problems at all against Dumbarton. For the 25 minutes I was on it felt good. “That was always the plan — to get on for that in the second half. The fans were great with me. “It was important game-time and I even went on a wee mazy run forward — I got a bit carried away!”

Hibs, playing less than five weeks after their Hampden defeat to Celtic, had the better of the first half. Summer signings Owain Tudur Jones and Liam Craig were handed debuts in midfield, but Fraser Mullen signed too late. Murray’s First Division side play some good stuff and Kevin Smith hit the woodwork before half-time. Hibs winger Alex Harris got a lucky break to put Fenlon’s men ahead early in the second half — but Ally McKerracher soon equalised.

The Easter Road side jet out to Spain today for a training camp and games against Gibraltar and Nottingham Forest. McPake admits it’s the perfect start to the season — with a Europa League tie against Drogheda or Malmo just around the corner.

He said: “There is an excitement around the club about the European games. I’ve never played European football before and we’re all buzzing.“Everybody knows what a great venue Easter Road is when everyone is behind you. We believe we can fill it for this tie and it will be an eye-opener for the new boys. “Sometimes things have not been good enough for a club of this standard, yet the fans are always behind us. “When I think about how excited I am — they must be buzzing. “It makes starting pre-season early worthwhile.”

Story also in the Scotsman

James McPake attacks internet cynics on injury talk

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spl/james-mcpake-attacks-internet-cynics-on-injury-talk-1-2984168

Well said James

Hibernia Na Eir
01-07-2013, 06:16 AM
to be fair, Mcpake will know better than anyone else......seemple

hope he's fine for start o the season. we need him!!

Andy74
01-07-2013, 06:52 AM
I don't think anyone was out to get him or enjoying the chat. It was just discussion over the possibility and some info came from decent sources. I think he's gone a bit OTT.

Gatecrasher
01-07-2013, 06:54 AM
Don't think James is very happy with those on internet messageboards who were stating his career was over and brands them a JOKE in this Sun article.

So hopefully he is fully fit again as a fit & fired up McPake will be a huge asset to Hibs this coming season.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/4990935/Web-of-lies.html

Web of lies

Fit McPake blasts online claims that his career was over

JAMES McPAKE savaged the internet scaremongers who claimed his career was over.

The Hibs skipper returned to action against Dumbarton at the weekend after missing May’s Scottish Cup final with a back injury. McPake, 29, quickly rounded on the faceless fans who spread malicious online rumours that he was about to retire this summer. The Easter Road skipper insists his career is NOT in danger — and challenged the culprits to repeat their false claims to his face.

He said: “The people who put that stuff out there are a shambles. “They think they have power. They go on internet messageboards and think that, because they know somebody, they must know everything. “It just spreads from there. They must love the power. They must love the idea that so many people are listening to them. They are a JOKE.

“They are not proper fans, if you ask me. They just want to make a name for themselves. “If they know that much and are so confident about their information, then I’d ask them to come and speak to me about it instead of putting it on an internet forum or Twitter.

“I am big enough to handle it, but it is other people who suffer. “I’d people from my wife’s family texting her and saying: ‘Is this true?’ and ‘It is all over Twitter’.
“It does not bother me in the slightest, I know the condition I am in and I know what my body can do. “They can write what they want, it doesn’t affect me and it does not influence the manager’s thinking. “I had a laugh to myself when I read it. I spoke to people and said: ‘How can you believe that?’”

McPake played the last 22 minutes as Hibs kicked off their pre-season campaign with a draw against Ian Murray’s Sons. He hopes his first appearance since late April will finally make the keyboard commandos shut up. He added: “It is bizarre how they go out of their way to make you suffer. Then probably two or three of them were in the crowd on Saturday applauding when I came on and saying, ‘Oh look, he’s moving all right’.

“The rumours will probably start again this week if I don’t play against Gibraltar because we are on an astroturf park. “I’ll probably have had a big flare up and that’s me finished again — for the second time in three months! “There were no problems at all against Dumbarton. For the 25 minutes I was on it felt good. “That was always the plan — to get on for that in the second half. The fans were great with me. “It was important game-time and I even went on a wee mazy run forward — I got a bit carried away!”

Hibs, playing less than five weeks after their Hampden defeat to Celtic, had the better of the first half. Summer signings Owain Tudur Jones and Liam Craig were handed debuts in midfield, but Fraser Mullen signed too late. Murray’s First Division side play some good stuff and Kevin Smith hit the woodwork before half-time. Hibs winger Alex Harris got a lucky break to put Fenlon’s men ahead early in the second half — but Ally McKerracher soon equalised.

The Easter Road side jet out to Spain today for a training camp and games against Gibraltar and Nottingham Forest. McPake admits it’s the perfect start to the season — with a Europa League tie against Drogheda or Malmo just around the corner.

He said: “There is an excitement around the club about the European games. I’ve never played European football before and we’re all buzzing.“Everybody knows what a great venue Easter Road is when everyone is behind you. We believe we can fill it for this tie and it will be an eye-opener for the new boys. “Sometimes things have not been good enough for a club of this standard, yet the fans are always behind us. “When I think about how excited I am — they must be buzzing. “It makes starting pre-season early worthwhile.”

Story also in the Scotsman

James McPake attacks internet cynics on injury talk

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spl/james-mcpake-attacks-internet-cynics-on-injury-talk-1-2984168
He's spot on though isn't he? Some of the rumours on here are complete guff and just folk on the wind up. Especially when your talking about someones career and health.

lord bunberry
01-07-2013, 07:39 AM
I don't think anyone was out to get him or enjoying the chat. It was just discussion over the possibility and some info came from decent sources. I think he's gone a bit OTT.

So do I, most of the rumors were coming from people who were 100% behind mcpake. There has always been a concern about the fitness of mcpake and people will continue to speculate about it until something is said in public from hibs or mcpake. Imo mcpake hasn't done himself any favours with this interview, if he hasn't got a serious problem then maybe he should be explaining why his form was so poor last season.

TheFamous1875
01-07-2013, 07:46 AM
If anything, it's testement to him as a player and the high regard the Hibs fans feel for him that the only explanation people could conjure up was that he must have been carrying an injury for him to be playing so poorly as he did for a lot of last season.

Steve-O
01-07-2013, 07:46 AM
Sounds like Jamesie boy is protesting a bit too much?

And why has he only now come out and denied it all if it was causing such upset?

Quite an outburst that was a bit OTT in my view.

Saorsa
01-07-2013, 07:53 AM
I don't think anyone was out to get him or enjoying the chat. It was just discussion over the possibility and some info came from decent sources. I think he's gone a bit OTT.Are these sources better than the ones who speak against Petrie that they should be believed when only one side is told? :wink: People come on here and type what ever they feel like, a load of it pish. If it's pish he's perfectly entitled tae speak out against it IMO. Now at least we have both sides, you were quite keen on having that another thread. :wink:

jdships
01-07-2013, 07:59 AM
Sounds like Jamesie boy is protesting a bit too much?

And why has he only now come out and denied it all if it was causing such upset?

Quite an outburst that was a bit OTT in my view.

:thumbsup::agree:

Andy74
01-07-2013, 08:13 AM
Are these sources better than the ones who speak against Petrie that they should be believed when only one side is told? :wink: People come on here and type what ever they feel like, a load of it pish. If it's pish he's perfectly entitled tae speak out against it IMO. Now at least we have both sides, you were quite keen on having that another thread. :wink:

No, no better and that's why I'd never say they absolutely should be believed without question.

It's good to have the other side but my point was I think he's got a bit upset over not a lot.

jdships
01-07-2013, 08:17 AM
:faf: That is a fact is it? Seems like an opinion to me and a fairly misguided one at that.

Again that is just an opinion .
If you put emotions aside he really isn't the greatest C/H we have ever had :greengrin:wink:

Saorsa
01-07-2013, 08:21 AM
No, no better and that's why I'd never say they absolutely should be believed without question.

It's good to have the other side but my point was I think he's got a bit upset over not a lot.You dinnae think he should be annoyed that people have been typing stuff about him and his career being over if it isnae true? I disagree. If people cannae handle getting anything back (and him speaking his mind) without getting their frillies in a twist, then maybe they should think mair carefully about what they put up on public forums in the first place.

Andy74
01-07-2013, 08:32 AM
You dinnae think he should be annoyed that people have been typing stuff about him and his career being over if it isnae true? I disagree. If people cannae handle getting anything back (and him speaking his mind) without getting their frillies in a twist, then maybe they should think mair carefully about what they put up on public forums in the first place.

This is the thing about the other thread. Were there concerns? We've now heard direct from McPake and I still couldn't tell you if he's protesting a bit much or whether every source that suggested there was an issue were wring in what they had been told.

Anyway, my point is that it wasn't malicious. It was a valid discussion about hw serious his injury was or could be and I think his reaction is a bit much.

As noted above, if he is saying he is playing without any injury then he has a bit of explaining to do about his form!

He used to be all over Twitter himself. Something is up. He's Hibs captain so he has to expect some discussion about all this.

basehibby
01-07-2013, 08:55 AM
This is the thing about the other thread. Were there concerns? We've now heard direct from McPake and I still couldn't tell you if he's protesting a bit much or whether every source that suggested there was an issue were wring in what they had been told.

Anyway, my point is that it wasn't malicious. It was a valid discussion about hw serious his injury was or could be and I think his reaction is a bit much.

As noted above, if he is saying he is playing without any injury then he has a bit of explaining to do about his form!

He used to be all over Twitter himself. Something is up. He's Hibs captain so he has to expect some discussion about all this.

Thing is, it's a pretty emotive subject for any professional footballer - witness David Beckham greetin his eyes oot a month or so back because he KNEW he had just played his last game.
McPake has had to fight his way back from a serious injury and obviously going by his comments has no intention of chucking in the towel right now - so it's pretty natural for him to react with anger at the speculative comments which must feel like daggers to him.

NB - the twitter activity or the lack thereof is a pretty spurious thing to base any suspicions on - many people blow hot and cold on these things depending on how busy they are .

scoopyboy
01-07-2013, 09:01 AM
Thing I have noticed in the Daily Record that wasn't reported in the Sun story.

He acknowledges that one or two people knew things, so whilst agreeing it may have been upsetting to him and his family not everybody he was referring to as jokers were indeed wrong.

jonty
01-07-2013, 09:25 AM
Thing I have noticed in the Daily Record that wasn't reported in the Sun story.

He acknowledges that one or two people knew things, so whilst agreeing it may have been upsetting to him and his family not everybody he was referring to as jokers were indeed wrong.

Two people at the same event putting their own slant on things. hmmmmm where have I seen that recently :greengrin

You simply cant trust what the papers come out with nowadays. Accuracy and fact has given way to sensationalism.

JimBHibees
01-07-2013, 09:34 AM
I don't think anyone was out to get him or enjoying the chat. It was just discussion over the possibility and some info came from decent sources. I think he's gone a bit OTT.

I agree do your talking on the pitch. He wasnt great last season so should be working as hard as possible to come back and have a better season. A fit JMCP is a big and influential player for Hibs however I have doubts he was fit at any part of last season. Personally dont think these comments help anyone too much.

blackpoolhibs
01-07-2013, 09:34 AM
I wonder if James gets upset about folk who talk to their mates in the workplace or pub, as the internet is just an extension of that?

Now what is 100% fact is his form was poor, and he missed a number of games due to his back problems. He also has had a broken back, that was operated on before he arrived at Hibs.

Folk will speculate whether here or at the gym or even in tesco's, these people care about Hibs, if they didn't they wouldn't bother their erse about James or Hibs.

99% of those who discussed his problems wanted him back and fit, i wouldn't class any of them as a shambles or even a joke. And if i post anything i have heard, i certainly don't love it because people are listening to me, or indeed do i think i have some sort of power?

And as for them not being proper fans, away and bile yer heid James. :rolleyes:

Hibercelona
01-07-2013, 10:04 AM
I think it was the "career over" speculation that pissed him off.

It's blatantly obvious that he's been injured . But he's obviously confident about getting himself back on form again.

Probably just a rag reporter catching him out on a bad day.

MWHIBBIES
01-07-2013, 10:14 AM
Again that is just an opinion .
If you put emotions aside he really isn't the greatest C/H we have ever had :greengrin:wink:Agreed but he isn't a bombscare.

Keith_M
01-07-2013, 10:17 AM
You must admit, he does have a bit of a point. There do seem to be people that revel in making out they're 'in the know'. For instance, what happened to Hearts big embarassing announcement this week that was predicted on the Yams In Administration thread?

Somebody decided to speculate that his career was over. Not that he was injured but that he would be retiring. This was obviously b*ll*x and, if I were him, I'd be a bit upset as well.

OK, he might not have put it over very well but so what? If people can defend the right to people anonymously making speculation on here then surely he also has the right to have a bit of a p*ssed off moment.

jdships
01-07-2013, 10:18 AM
I wonder if James gets upset about folk who talk to their mates in the workplace or pub, as the internet is just an extension of that?

Now what is 100% fact is his form was poor, and he missed a number of games due to his back problems. He also has had a broken back, that was operated on before he arrived at Hibs.

Folk will speculate whether here or at the gym or even in tesco's, these people care about Hibs, if they didn't they wouldn't bother their erse about James or Hibs.

99% of those who discussed his problems wanted him back and fit, i wouldn't class any of them as a shambles or even a joke. And if i post anything i have heard, i certainly don't love it because people are listening to me, or indeed do i think i have some sort of power?

And as for them not being proper fans, away and bile yer heid James. :rolleyes:


:agree:

If you live in the public eye you have to accept that the public will talk about you in whatever terms they feel like
THAT'S LIFE , unfortunately

Don't hack his criticsm of the fans , without them he doesn't have a job

Needs to consider things before before committing to print

:rolleyes:

jdships
01-07-2013, 10:22 AM
Agreed but he isn't a bombscare.

Never said he was !
MY OPINION is he is just not an SPL C/H :greengrin

blackpoolhibs
01-07-2013, 10:26 AM
You must admit, he does have a bit of a point. There do seem to be people that revel in making out they're 'in the know'. For instance, what happened to Hearts big embarassing announcement this week that was predicted on the Yams In Administration thread?

Somebody decided to speculate that his career was over. Not that he was injured but that he would be retiring. This was obviously b*ll*x and, if I were him, I'd be a bit upset as well.

OK, he might not have put it over very well but so what? If people can defend the right to people anonymously making speculation on here then surely he also has the right to have a bit of a p*ssed off moment.

A simple statement when he heard or saw this internet thread, saying he was not retiring, and would be back next season would have put this to bed weeks ago. Kevin Thomson mark 2. :timebomb:

Steve-O
01-07-2013, 10:28 AM
McPake out, Rob Jones in.

Thecat23
01-07-2013, 10:30 AM
I think that's a huge OTT reaction and he knows it himself. No one wanted James out injured or have a career threating injury. If I'm honest I'll still be very surprised if he plays right through this season. I hope he can as he was superb before his back go really bad.

Sadly though back problems are very hard to cure depending the level of the condition. Good luck to you James but you aren't kidding anyone here, constant injections before games tells its own story.

Keith_M
01-07-2013, 10:40 AM
A simple statement when he heard or saw this internet thread, saying he was not retiring, and would be back next season would have put this to bed weeks ago. Kevin Thomson mark 2. :timebomb:


The thing is, I agree with that. However, I can't help think that some people are making a bit much of what he said.

We all know that reporters are good at getting the story over in the juiciest way possible and they typically coach people and use leading questions. He could easily as well just have been having a bad day.



But I don't know why I'm bothering answering you as I always suspect you're just stirring things :wink:

Beefster
01-07-2013, 10:47 AM
I wonder if James gets upset about folk who talk to their mates in the workplace or pub, as the internet is just an extension of that?

Now what is 100% fact is his form was poor, and he missed a number of games due to his back problems. He also has had a broken back, that was operated on before he arrived at Hibs.

Folk will speculate whether here or at the gym or even in tesco's, these people care about Hibs, if they didn't they wouldn't bother their erse about James or Hibs.

99% of those who discussed his problems wanted him back and fit, i wouldn't class any of them as a shambles or even a joke. And if i post anything i have heard, i certainly don't love it because people are listening to me, or indeed do i think i have some sort of power?

And as for them not being proper fans, away and bile yer heid James. :rolleyes:

I don't think you've understood who he's referring to.

J-C
01-07-2013, 10:48 AM
I wonder if James gets upset about folk who talk to their mates in the workplace or pub, as the internet is just an extension of that?

Now what is 100% fact is his form was poor, and he missed a number of games due to his back problems. He also has had a broken back, that was operated on before he arrived at Hibs.

Folk will speculate whether here or at the gym or even in tesco's, these people care about Hibs, if they didn't they wouldn't bother their erse about James or Hibs.

99% of those who discussed his problems wanted him back and fit, i wouldn't class any of them as a shambles or even a joke. And if i post anything i have heard, i certainly don't love it because people are listening to me, or indeed do i think i have some sort of power?

And as for them not being proper fans, away and bile yer heid James. :rolleyes:

:top marks:agree:
We all knew the damage that was done to his back prior to him coming here, when his performances and indeed lack of appearances started it was only natural we'd all start to speculate as to the condition of his back and indeed it's severity. He could've put a stop to it immediately at the time by coming out and telling everyone the extent of his problems, whether good, bad or indifferent.

blackpoolhibs
01-07-2013, 10:53 AM
The thing is, I agree with that. However, I can't help think that some people are making a bit much of what he said.

We all know that reporters are good at getting the story over in the juiciest way possible and they typically coach people and use leading questions. He could easily as well just have been having a bad day.



But I don't know why I'm bothering answering you as I always suspect you're just stirring things :wink:

To be fair his statement really does not bother me, but i suppose it will bother some folk. And the thread that was on here about him MAYBE retiring was a good thread in my opinion. Some folk who do get some very good information told us what they had heard.

There's nothing wrong with that, again in my opinion. There was quite a lot of folk replying to this information, who stated they hoped it was wrong, and he could battle back and get better. James McPake has completely ignored any of this, and bracketed everyone into one folder titled keyboard hardmen.

As i said, a simple statement saying the rumours on certain message boards are unfounded, i will be fit to start the season, and i'm looking forward to the new campaign and our European adventure would have been enough.

TAHibby
01-07-2013, 11:50 AM
He obviously won't have seen the thread himself and has just gotten angry when family and friends are constantly asking: "on the Internet people people saying your career is over?". If he saw it himself he would realise the vast majority are right behind him and was a discussion about form/injuries because we care and want him at his best.

As said above, there was hinting that some things said had truth to them. In fairness to James though, probably a few comments too quick to suggest 'career over' without much from himself/club about it.

allezsauzee
01-07-2013, 12:17 PM
I think James is quite right to be raging about the tittle tattle that gets put out there regarding his fitness. How would everyone one else feel about other people speculating about their ability to continue doing their job based upon nothing but rumour? I know footballers are well paid and the scrutiny is part of the job but at the same time I think the player is entitled to make his feelings about it clear.

--------
01-07-2013, 12:58 PM
I don't think anyone was out to get him or enjoying the chat. It was just discussion over the possibility and some info came from decent sources. I think he's gone a bit OTT.

He said: “The people who put that stuff out there are a shambles. They think they have power. They go on internet message boards and think that, because they know somebody, they must know everything. It just spreads from there. They must love the power. They must love the idea that so many people are listening to them. They are a JOKE."

“They are not proper fans, if you ask me. They just want to make a name for themselves. “If they know that much and are so confident about their information, then I’d ask them to come and speak to me about it instead of putting it on an internet forum or Twitter."

Speaking as one who was concerned by the McPake's situation at the end of last season and said so, I do find that a bit OTT to say the least. It wasn't about power and it wasn't about having people listen to me. I've seen players' careers ended by injury, often because they've played on when rest and treatment were necessary for them to recover. McPake himself was insisting he would be fit for the final when it was clear to most of us that he would not, and actually, in the event he wasn't.

I think most of those sharing in those threads were genuinely concerned that a player for whom we had a high regard was clearly struggling to find form and fitness at a crucial stage of the season. That was all. I certainly wasn't enjoying the prospect of us losing our centre-half and captain this season, or of a man's career coming to an end prematurely. We were worried that a player we genuinely liked and respected was in trouble.

Pretty Boy
01-07-2013, 01:12 PM
I always find the belief in football that the internet mesaageboards are populated by people who aren't 'real fans' quite amusing.

It was shown up in startling clarity during the Rangers fiasco last year. Whilst Traynor et al were banging on about 'keyboard warriors' and 'darkened bedrooms', it was clear to a lot of fans that the real story wasn't being played out in the mainstream media but on the internet through blogs, forums etc.

Football and footballers have to accept that the internet is no longer the home of computer geeks and Bill Gates disciples. Fans on football forums are real fans, they do go to games and they talk about rumours, snippets of information, FACTs and so on. It's the 21st century version of pub gossip or the guy in the work who always had 'inside info'. They really need to get used to it because it isn't going away.

Andy74
01-07-2013, 01:19 PM
I always find the belief in football that the internet mesaageboards are populated by people who aren't 'real fans' quite amusing.

It was shown up in startling clarity during the Rangers fiasco last year. Whilst Traynor et al were banging on about 'keyboard warriors' and 'darkened bedrooms', it was clear to a lot of fans that the real story wasn't being played out in the mainstream media but on the internet through blogs, forums etc.

Football and footballers have to accept that the internet is no longer the home of computer geeks and Bill Gates disciples. Fans on football forums are real fans, they do go to games and they talk about rumours, snippets of information, FACTs and so on. It's the 21st century version of pub gossip or the guy in the work who always had 'inside info'. They really need to get used to it because it isn't going away.

Agreed, and he was happy to use Twitter himself when he arrived and used it to be positive about Hibs and the fans. I think he has given up the account now by the looks of it. It's coincided with him being very quiet about everything to do with the club. He was a great captain and a leader but that disappeared for the last six months. He only popped up again in saying things in public the week before the public.

I'm sure he would add this to the list of things said that are trying to make him suffer but something hasn't been right with him. His form has been poor, he missed games, he has gone quiet. It all adds up. He also wants to have a word with his mates because the chat I heard came direct from there, and as we know, that makes it a FACT. :greengrin

scoopyboy
01-07-2013, 01:24 PM
I think James is quite right to be raging about the tittle tattle that gets put out there regarding his fitness. How would everyone one else feel about other people speculating about their ability to continue doing their job based upon nothing but rumour? I know footballers are well paid and the scrutiny is part of the job but at the same time I think the player is entitled to make his feelings about it clear.

Don't think so, James himself admitted that one or two people had posted correct info.

cabbageandribs1875
01-07-2013, 01:28 PM
now now james, asking some fans for a square-go is just simply not hibs class :( :jmcp:

Wotherspiniesta
01-07-2013, 06:12 PM
Never said he was !
MY OPINION is he is just not an SPL C/H :greengrin

I've noticed you on quite a lot of the McPake threads having a go at him. Quite unreasonable for this constant bashing of our captain, IMO.

He was head, shoulders and back above everyone towards the end of our season before last and carried the team to safety. He was certainly good enough to be an SPL CH then and once back to form and fitness, will definately be easily good enough to play in this league again.

As for what James had to say in the papers, maybe it is a little bit OTT. Like it or not, there will be a lot of speculation on fans forums and on twitter. The only way he can prove the rumours false is by going out there and performing at the top of his game. I'm glad he's angry. We need that fired up character from the start of last season back.

allezsauzee
01-07-2013, 06:16 PM
Don't think so, James himself admitted that one or two people had posted correct info.

so it is in fact correct that his career is over?

Waxy
01-07-2013, 06:26 PM
I'm sure most of us have had a bad injury at some point in our lives.
Very frustrating and you wonder if you will ever get better.
Must be worse for a footballer.They are taking a chance in every match and any injury could be career finishing.
He must have feared the worst and the talk on here would have scared him.

Think he's just letting off steam and probably very relieved to be back.

blackpoolhibs
01-07-2013, 06:29 PM
so it is in fact correct that his career is over?

I don't remember anyone saying it was over, i do remember some folk saying his back is in a terrible state and he might not be able to carry on in the future?

NAE NOOKIE
01-07-2013, 06:47 PM
I always find the belief in football that the internet mesaageboards are populated by people who aren't 'real fans' quite amusing.

It was shown up in startling clarity during the Rangers fiasco last year. Whilst Traynor et al were banging on about 'keyboard warriors' and 'darkened bedrooms', it was clear to a lot of fans that the real story wasn't being played out in the mainstream media but on the internet through blogs, forums etc.

Football and footballers have to accept that the internet is no longer the home of computer geeks and Bill Gates disciples. Fans on football forums are real fans, they do go to games and they talk about rumours, snippets of information, FACTs and so on. It's the 21st century version of pub gossip or the guy in the work who always had 'inside info'. They really need to get used to it because it isn't going away.

This ... and what Doddie said in the post before.

If James McPake and the likes of Jim Traynor ( sorry James to lump you in with that tool ) want to make a point they can either write a column in the newspaper they work for ( or at least used to ) or do an interview, as many players do.

Unfortunately for us nonentities the only way we get to put our opinion out there is through forums like this one. If anyone out there like Traynor or James McPake who thinks I'm a keyboard warrior or a faceless internet user wants to give me a newspaper column with my real name and picture at the top bring it on .... nae bloody problem.

I have no problem with James McPake or any other player getting angry with stuff written about them and they have every right to call it peesh if they want. But it is just stupid and backward to say "these folk arnt real fans. If James McPake stays at Hibs till the end of his career he probably wont earn as much as I and loads of other folk on here have spent following Hibs over the years. Not real fans my arse.

scoopyboy
01-07-2013, 07:19 PM
so it is in fact correct that his career is over?

Go and read my post again and try and come back with a better response than that nonsense.

Billy
01-07-2013, 08:02 PM
That article doesn't make him come across very well imo. I understand him being annoyed at the fans who spread that unfounded info but he goes a bit too far saying everyone on here and twitter is a joke and not real fans?!

IMHO, I think that James was trying to make the point about one or two posters who may have written about him maybe having to retire and not about all posters.

blackpoolhibs
01-07-2013, 08:11 PM
IMHO, I think that James was trying to make the point about one or two posters who may have written about him maybe having to retire and not about all posters.

You could be right Billy, but he cant have a go like he did and not expect a reaction.

Especially when 99% of those who i have seen post, wanted him back fit AND healthy. He bundles everyone in together, yet perhaps means only one or two. Can you see the irony there?

SMAXXA
01-07-2013, 08:16 PM
You could be right Billy, but he cant have a go like he did and not expect a reaction.

Especially when 99% of those who i have seen post, wanted him back fit AND healthy. He bundles everyone in together, yet perhaps means only one or two. Can you see the irony there?

In my opinion I don't think its the fact people were saying his career was potentially over, its probably more of a case that he's seen quite a lot of the stick he has taken on places like this most of last season and has used this as a weapon to hit back and lash out at the people who criticised him. Some of the criticism may I add was justified on his performances but to even it up some people also have short memories about how good he was in his loan spell and IMO let last season cloud their judgment. Whether his performances was a result of his injury, I can only surmise that it was, but again this is just my opinion.

Velma Dinkley
01-07-2013, 08:16 PM
He didn't bundle everyone together. He made it perfectly clear who he was talking about. Certain .net posters are reacting badly :greengrin

Billy
01-07-2013, 08:20 PM
You could be right Billy, but he cant have a go like he did and not expect a reaction.

Especially when 99% of those who i have seen post, wanted him back fit AND healthy. He bundles everyone in together, yet perhaps means only one or two. Can you see the irony there?

I know that James really appreciates the support from everyone and IMHO I'm sure that he is only talking about one or two people. Maybe it's just the way the article is written that it comes across as having a go at more but I do think that it's only aimed at those one or two.

blackpoolhibs
01-07-2013, 08:27 PM
In my opinion I don't think its the fact people were saying his career was potentially over, its probably more of a case that he's seen quite a lot of the stick he has taken on places like this most of last season and has used this as a weapon to hit back and lash out at the people who criticised him. Some of the criticism may I add was justified on his performances but to even it up some people also have short memories about how good he was in his loan spell and IMO let last season cloud their judgment. Whether his performances was a result of his injury, I can only surmise that it was, but again this is just my opinion.

100 percent guesswork, but will probably become a fact within a few days. :wink:

SMAXXA
01-07-2013, 08:30 PM
100 percent guesswork, but will probably become a fact within a few days. :wink:

Whats guesswork? My view on why he was so peed off? As I said its just my opinion. I have no problem with McPakes comments personally, as Billy has mentioned im sure its aimed at a minority of people.

blackpoolhibs
01-07-2013, 08:33 PM
Whats guesswork? My view on why he was so peed off? As I said its just my opinion. I have no problem with McPakes comments personally, as Billy has mentioned im sure its aimed at a minority of people.

Yip guesswork, are you now saying McPake is a liar and made this all up because he's been fed up with some stick over his form?

SMAXXA
01-07-2013, 08:36 PM
Yip guesswork, are you now saying McPake is a liar and made this all up because he's been fed up with some stick over his form?

:agree: Yes, I also believe he is singling you out as top target for all your criticism :greengrin

blackpoolhibs
01-07-2013, 08:38 PM
:agree: Yes, I also believe he is singling you out as top target for all your criticism :greengrin

:greengrin

HUTCHYHIBBY
01-07-2013, 09:46 PM
Its quite ironic that because he has had a bit of a dash in the papers it has brought the topic back onto the front page of .net.

YehButNoBut
25-07-2013, 09:56 PM
Does tonight maybe confirm that the title of this thread was correct??

Or is there a way back for our captain.

Danderhall Hibs
25-07-2013, 09:58 PM
Does tonight maybe confirm that the title of this thread was correct??

Or is there a way back for our captain.

The goals flooded in after he went off...

Heisenberg
25-07-2013, 09:58 PM
Does tonight maybe confirm that the title of this thread was correct??

Or is there a way back for our captain.

He's kidding himself on if he thinks he can play this season. Couple of lunging tackles and he was humped tonight.

SmallvilleHibee
25-07-2013, 09:59 PM
I hope his Hibs career is over.

Thecat23
25-07-2013, 09:59 PM
Wish folk would listen when I was told by 2 first team players that his career was finished. He was told by different docs to stop playing as well. The guy is only hurting the team now.

It's such a shame as well as he has a big heart but c'mon James please step down from playing. Go into coaching or something.

Cameron1875
25-07-2013, 10:03 PM
Letting his team mates down by kidding on he's fully fit. Shocking player too.

frazeHFC
25-07-2013, 10:07 PM
I hope his Hibs career is over.


This. Would be shame if he is out of football for good but I hope he's plying his trade elsewhere.

Itsnoteasy
25-07-2013, 10:10 PM
He was great when he was on loan. Once he signed a contract he has been terrible. Shouldn't be playing if not fit. Fenlon to blame for that he picks the team.

Kiddo
25-07-2013, 10:12 PM
He is terrible, he looked good when no one else cared, got badly found out last year. Hope he never wears a hibs strip again. Amateur player at best

Brightside
25-07-2013, 10:17 PM
The first thing we tell kids at football is Stay On Your Feet. Mcpake can't even make a pass without ending up on his arose. Fenlon should get booted just for picking him tonight.

lord bunberry
25-07-2013, 10:20 PM
A defeat really brings out the worsed in some people, what did mcpake do wrong tonight.

hibsbollah
25-07-2013, 10:22 PM
I hope his Hibs career is over.


Thats the worst thing ive ever seen on here, and thats saying something. Well done :aok:

FitbaFolkKen
25-07-2013, 10:24 PM
He is clearly struggling and desperate to carry on playing, there is no need for this level of abuse towards him.

I'm gutted for him to be honest as this must be killing him, we all know how much he fought for us whne he was just on loan.

21.05.2016
25-07-2013, 10:25 PM
Wasn't great tonight but certainly not awful IMO.


He's certainly not the same player he was when he first came to us thats for sure though. I just cant see the leader in him much anymore either. He used to be such a strong captain who could really rally and lead the team on the park, you would always see him roaring and organising the players but I just don't see those leadership qualities in him as much now tbh.

lugz
26-07-2013, 07:27 AM
Apologies if already mentioned somewhere else, feel free to merge.

Was on sky sports news this morning that mcpake will miss the start of the season with his on going back injury. Never took long for this to reappear!! Surely a centre half must now become a priority.

H18sry
26-07-2013, 07:28 AM
Andy Webster is still a free agent :aok:

HIBERNIAN-0762
26-07-2013, 07:28 AM
He shouldn't be allowed back in a green jersey in my opinion.

JimBHibees
26-07-2013, 07:32 AM
A decent quality replacement should be bought now and James given the requisite time to get properly fit if indeed that is possible. Hibs cannot afford to have such uncertainty over a vital position in the team.

CRAZYHIBBY
26-07-2013, 07:32 AM
Hes absolutely finished.....we need a couple of decent defenders and with a week to go till the end of the window its not looking likely

JimBHibees
26-07-2013, 07:33 AM
Hes absolutely finished.....we need a couple of decent defenders and with a week to go till the end of the window its not looking likely

The window closes at start of September.

Coco Bryce
26-07-2013, 07:34 AM
He's finished.

Time to move on

Onion
26-07-2013, 07:39 AM
McPake is finished and we need to forget him. Fenlon's first priority is to sort that defence out and find us some leadership on the field. Andy Webster had/has all the qualities we're looking for so must now be a target. Petrie will just have to find the money from somewhere - maybe his own pocket or ask our owner for some pocket change.

Pretty Boy
26-07-2013, 07:41 AM
Wish him well in his recovery, he really needs to get this sorted. Whether thats sorted enought to play football at a decent level or sorted enough just to have a decent quality of life is up to him and the Doctors.

From a football point of view I can't say i'm overly worried about him not being able to play, especially if we can bring in a decent CB soon.

Andy74
26-07-2013, 07:43 AM
We need to replace him. He's now kidding himself and us.

JimBHibees
26-07-2013, 07:46 AM
We need to replace him. He's now kidding himself and us.

Yes we need to replace him with decent quality and assume he wont be back. If he recovers and is able to come back in all well and good however no way can we bank on someone so unreliable fitness wise.

Golden Bear
26-07-2013, 07:52 AM
The guy is a bit of a mystery.

He achieved near hero status because of his no nonsense battling approach when he first played for us and his appointment as team captain proved to be justified. However last season was a major disappointment, his form was patchy so say the least and he looked as though he was incapable of playing a full 90 minutes.

Towards the end of the season there were widespread rumours that back problems were going to bring his career to a premature end yet here we are a few short weeks later and it's obvious that he still has major fitness problems. It makes you wonder if he did receive any treatment/operations in the brief close season or whether the only perceived solution was for him to play through the pain barrier each and every game he plays.

It's far from satisfactory that's for sure and I'm sure Mcpake would be the first to agree.

Allant1981
26-07-2013, 07:52 AM
I actually thought he was doing ok until he hurt his back, should never have started the game though as every man and his dog knows he is injured, hopefully we can get someone in asap

Hibernia Na Eir
26-07-2013, 07:54 AM
He's finished.

Time to move on

beat me to it.

Heisenberg
26-07-2013, 08:11 AM
Apologies if already mentioned somewhere else, feel free to merge.

Was on sky sports news this morning that mcpake will miss the start of the season with his on going back injury. Never took long for this to reappear!! Surely a centre half must now become a priority.

But I thought he was ok and all hibs fans who were speculating that he has a bad back injury were out of order for doing so? He's not doing the club or himself any good by trying to keep playing.

scoopyboy
26-07-2013, 08:20 AM
The guy is a bit of a mystery.

He achieved near hero status because of his no nonsense battling approach when he first played for us and his appointment as team captain proved to be justified. However last season was a major disappointment, his form was patchy so say the least and he looked as though he was incapable of playing a full 90 minutes.

Towards the end of the season there were widespread rumours that back problems were going to bring his career to a premature end yet here we are a few short weeks later and it's obvious that he still has major fitness problems. It makes you wonder if he did receive any treatment/operations in the brief close season or whether the only perceived solution was for him to play through the pain barrier each and every game he plays.

It's far from satisfactory that's for sure and I'm sure Mcpake would be the first to agree.

He won't. Rather than agree it will be another tirade against the ignorant faceless internet morons.

hibeeleicester
26-07-2013, 08:30 AM
He played ok last night.

The guy is doing what he loves, playing for a club he now loves. Lets not turn this bitter for him.

For his own sake I hope he takes a bit of time now to give himself that one last chance to get fit!

If not he's always welcome down at Easter Road, was willing to put his back(literally) on the line when others weren't!

Good luck JM

J-C
26-07-2013, 08:35 AM
He played ok last night.

The guy is doing what he loves, playing for a club he now loves. Lets not turn this bitter for him.

For his own sake I hope he takes a bit of time now to give himself that one last chance to get fit!

If not he's always welcome down at Easter Road, was willing to put his back(literally) on the line when others weren't!

Good luck JM

So how much time does he need, my information is his back is beyond repair and his career should now be over, he played last season with constant pain killing injections just to get by. The doctor Hibs use refused to give any more injections so he went to Ireland to see one there, he's refusing to accept it's time for him and the fact that Fenlon and the Hibs board give him hope by allowing him to play is wrong. For the sake of his own health he needs to call it a day, or he may and up disabled in later life.

Aldo
26-07-2013, 08:37 AM
The decision should not be a footballing decision but a health and future life decision.

If his back is knacked and he had been told to stop playing because of his injury or risk permanent damage then he needs to retire.

Hard hard decision but for me now needs to make the hardest decision of his life.

Brightside
26-07-2013, 08:38 AM
He played ok last night.

The guy is doing what he loves, playing for a club he now loves. Lets not turn this bitter for him.

For his own sake I hope he takes a bit of time now to give himself that one last chance to get fit!

If not he's always welcome down at Easter Road, was willing to put his back(literally) on the line when others weren't!

Good luck JM

When did he play OK? I think he made 8 attempted tackles. 7 of these he ended up on his arse. Thats why his back is ruined. He simply cannot tackle or even pass without falling on the floor.

Scooter
26-07-2013, 08:41 AM
A defeat really brings out the worsed in some people, what did mcpake do wrong tonight.

i agree with you. i thought he done exactly what i would expect of him. he won all his headers and challenges and put his body on the line for everything. he threw himself at everything. and if he was carrying his injury and still put body on the line. he gets a break from me

steviehibsleith
26-07-2013, 08:42 AM
If Mcpake has told PF im fit and ready for the season and he clearly isnt this is a major issue as seems pretty obvious he has a serious problem. More importantly we missed out on McManus to Motherwell and are now late in the market for a central defender we desperately need or we will concede a lot of goals

Bobo
26-07-2013, 08:43 AM
He played ok last night.

The guy is doing what he loves, playing for a club he now loves. Lets not turn this bitter for him.

For his own sake I hope he takes a bit of time now to give himself that one last chance to get fit!

If not he's always welcome down at Easter Road, was willing to put his back(literally) on the line when others weren't!

Good luck JM

Was clearly unfit and should never have been considered for the match. He was culpable for the first goal by failing miserably at four attempts to clear the ball more than 10 yards. He couldn't get off the pitch quick enough after that. No loss if he never plays again!

For McPake, Clancy and McGivern to be injured as often as they are is laughable. We clearly have a powder puff back four and it's no surprise they ship more goals than most.

Coco Bryce
26-07-2013, 08:46 AM
He played ok last night.

The guy is doing what he loves, playing for a club he now loves. Lets not turn this bitter for him.

For his own sake I hope he takes a bit of time now to give himself that one last chance to get fit!

If not he's always welcome down at Easter Road, was willing to put his back(literally) on the line when others weren't!

Good luck JM

What! 3-4 times he failed to clear the ball leading to the 1st goal.

The guy is becoming a liability now.

SlickShoes
26-07-2013, 08:49 AM
If his back gave up after 20 minutes he should have been nowhere near the starting line up at that level of fitness, either our medical staff are at or McPake is in serious denial about being able to play properly again.

I liked him the first year he was here, he clearly has massive back problems, we need to forget about him for now, give him time to see if he can ever play again without feeling the need to rush back and we need to sign someone else.

Scooter
26-07-2013, 08:51 AM
What! 3-4 times he failed to clear the ball leading to the 1st goal.

The guy is becoming a liability now.

one hibs player sorunded by more than 1 malmo player. he done well enough there but no one backed him up

Heisenberg
26-07-2013, 08:55 AM
What! 3-4 times he failed to clear the ball leading to the 1st goal.

The guy is becoming a liability now.

He's been a liability for a long time now. Still, we're just faceless morons who made up the injury problems, eh james?

NOLA
26-07-2013, 11:58 AM
this is a business we are trying to run here, keeping McPake on in the hope his injury clears up is folly, sometimes you have to be ruthless in life, thanks for your time James your a great lad to have around the place but i hope you never play for hibs again.

Speedway
26-07-2013, 12:04 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa!

Where's all the McPake 'man-crushes' gone that everyone had?

malagahibby
26-07-2013, 12:21 PM
This a a terrible way to treat our club captain.
i do wonder at some of the ridiculous posts.

Lets wish the guy well on his recovery and hope to see a fully fit James mcpake really soon

EH54
26-07-2013, 12:26 PM
Nothing against Mcpake but as Club captain he has to be honest and tell the Manager and supporters when he is fully fit and when he is not, a half fit Mcpake is a bombscare and thats what he was last season and looks like his back hasn't got much better this season, I hope he can recover from this but until then he shouldn't be playing.

malagahibby
26-07-2013, 12:30 PM
So sparky should have hot the same in the final last year ?

I'm just saying give the guy a break - he is desperate to play unlike 10 others last night

IWasThere2016
26-07-2013, 12:31 PM
Wish him well with his recovery but I'm worried about his future now.

Allant1981
26-07-2013, 12:33 PM
Most people would do the same as mcpake, ive played junior for a few years now and ive played injured because you are desperate to play, i know its different for these guys as its a much higher league and its their jobs but they must feel the same and want to play every week

EH54
26-07-2013, 12:35 PM
So sparky should have hot the same in the final last year ?

I'm just saying give the guy a break - he is desperate to play unlike 10 others last night


Him playing isn't putting the team first which a captain MUST do, hes not fit and shouldn't play, was Leigh a bombscare against Celtic? don't think he was? Mcpake has been and not just last night. he needs to get some time out fully recover and hopfully come back but until then im sorry he shouldn't be playing.

EH54
26-07-2013, 12:37 PM
Most people would do the same as mcpake, ive played junior for a few years now and ive played injured because you are desperate to play, i know its different for these guys as its a much higher league and its their jobs but they must feel the same and want to play every week

We have all done it and i have myself, but he is at the end of the day club captain and surely that means putting the clubs best intrest first not his own.

Scouse Hibee
26-07-2013, 12:37 PM
Wow imagine if he'd been on the pitch longer.

EH54
26-07-2013, 12:39 PM
Wow imagine if he'd been on the pitch longer.

It's not his preformance im slating its him playing when not fit, he has to take some more time off and come back because we have all seen the way he can play when he is fit. lets just hope he can recover and come back 100%

Andy74
26-07-2013, 12:39 PM
Wish him well with his recovery but I'm worried about his future now.

Yep, and ours if we can't realy on the one decent, experinced defender that we have.

It's a must that we sign a commanding centre half.