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Ozyhibby
08-03-2013, 12:01 PM
http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/199505-fee-payment-to-clubs-spl-201213/#entry7132068

Sergio sledge
08-03-2013, 12:07 PM
http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php/topic/199505-fee-payment-to-clubs-spl-201213/#entry7132068

Was about to post this. It seems that the 11 SPL clubs decided that in order to minimise the impact of the Sevco fallout they would try to divvy up the money more evenly, but were too scared to even contemplate asking Celtic to take a cut in prize money. :rolleyes: They could have voted through a reduction in Celtic's prize money quite easily, take 2.5% off 1st and 2nd and make it this:

1. 14.5% (was 17% last year)
2. 12.5% (was 15% last year)
3. 10.0% (up 0.5 % on last year)
4. 9.0% (up 0.5 % on last year )
5. 8.5% (up 0.5 % on last year )
6. 8.0% (up 0.5 % on last year )
7. 7.5% (up 0.5 % on last year )
8. 7.0% (up 0.5 % on last year )
9. 6.5% (up 0.5 % on last year )
10. 6.0% (up 0.5 % on last year )
11. 5.5% (up 0.5 % on last year )
12. 5.0% (up 0.5 % on last year )

It wouldn't have made any difference to Celtic at all, but given all the other clubs a boost!

DH1875
08-03-2013, 12:14 PM
And remember, there is no Champions league either. I say, Get Leigh rested up as I'll take a cup final spot over the league.

Ozyhibby
08-03-2013, 12:15 PM
Beginning to think the teams outside the old firm deserve to play second fiddle if they agreed to this deal.
And still no change to the voting system.

danhibees1875
08-03-2013, 12:19 PM
Beginning to think the teams outside the old firm deserve to play second fiddle if they agreed to this deal.
And still no change to the voting system.

Exactly, if Scottish football doesn't make good use of this gift of not having Rangers in the equation we're fools.

Caversham Green
08-03-2013, 12:20 PM
Beginning to think the teams outside the old firm deserve to play second fiddle if they agreed to this deal.
And still no change to the voting system.

:agree: I can't see a single redeeming feature in this, and at best all but one of the clubs voted for it. I fear our clubs are run by cowards.

It does say for this season only, I wonder what they'll come up with for next season.

Saorsa
08-03-2013, 12:35 PM
What a joke and just proves when it comes down tae it the other clubs or rather the people who run them seem happy tae keep bending over and taking it up the erse even when an opportunity tae even things up presents itself. What a bunch of mealy mouthed ***** bags.

clerriehibs
08-03-2013, 12:41 PM
Beginning to think the teams outside the old firm deserve to play second fiddle if they agreed to this deal.
And still no change to the voting system.

I'd love to hear their logic. We never will.

Ozyhibby
08-03-2013, 12:57 PM
If anything, the team winning the league should only collect their prize money if they fail to qualify for the champs league.

Hainan Hibs
08-03-2013, 12:58 PM
Agree with more redistribution but would love to see the reasoning behind maintaining the payment for 1st placement while slashing it for 2nd.

Unfortunately I think I already know the answer:rolleyes:

Fergus52
09-03-2013, 09:46 AM
Does this disprove the hibs.net FACT that second this season gets 2.4m?

IWasThere2016
09-03-2013, 09:58 AM
Are Cellic's attendances the most affected by SevCo in Div3?

Keith_M
09-03-2013, 10:19 AM
Are Cellic's attendances the most affected by SevCo in Div3?


Yes, by a long way

snooky
09-03-2013, 10:28 AM
:rolleyes: Alas, just another nail in the coffin that is (or was) Scottish Football.

NORTHERNHIBBY
09-03-2013, 10:49 AM
Yes, by a long way

Kinda shows that despite all the selfrighteous guff that they came out with about economic sanctions being applied by them to other teams, the one club that was desperate to see them remain in the SPL was the one shouting loudest for them to be kicked out,

IWasThere2016
09-03-2013, 11:10 AM
Yes, by a long way

Which could provide some defence of the % changes (or not) - otherwise it is the usual spineless SPL chairmen pandering to the Cancer.

Andy74
09-03-2013, 11:12 AM
Is this not quite sensible to ensure there is none of us smaller teams that can suddenly get a big cash boost by happening to be second when Rangers weren't here. You could find that would make a huge difference to them and create a bit of an imbalance.

When its Celtic and Rangers both getting big figures it makes no odds.

The problem is its not equitably shared and unduly skewed to the top two positions. However, in the present circumstances it makes sense that the clubs have voted to ensure one of them doesn't get away from the rest.

Eyrie
09-03-2013, 11:21 AM
Is this not quite sensible to ensure there is none of us smaller teams that can suddenly get a big cash boost by happening to be second when Rangers weren't here. You could find that would make a huge difference to them and create a bit of an imbalance.

When its Celtic and Rangers both getting big figures it makes no odds.

The problem is its not equitably shared and unduly skewed to the top two positions. However, in the present circumstances it makes sense that the clubs have voted to ensure one of them doesn't get away from the rest.
Then why let Smeltic continue to get a large hand out from the rest of us? A cut in the prize money for finishing first would be a big help to the other eleven clubs.

Saorsa
09-03-2013, 11:41 AM
Is this not quite sensible to ensure there is none of us smaller teams that can suddenly get a big cash boost by happening to be second when Rangers weren't here. You could find that would make a huge difference to them and create a bit of an imbalance.

When its Celtic and Rangers both getting big figures it makes no odds.

The problem is its not equitably shared and unduly skewed to the top two positions. However, in the present circumstances it makes sense that the clubs have voted to ensure one of them doesn't get away from the rest.There's still nae reason for no taking some off them and splitting that evenly to amongst the other clubs equally too.

marinello59
09-03-2013, 12:08 PM
Is this not quite sensible to ensure there is none of us smaller teams that can suddenly get a big cash boost by happening to be second when Rangers weren't here. You could find that would make a huge difference to them and create a bit of an imbalance.

When its Celtic and Rangers both getting big figures it makes no odds.

The problem is its not equitably shared and unduly skewed to the top two positions. However, in the present circumstances it makes sense that the clubs have voted to ensure one of them doesn't get away from the rest.

Sensible? More like the actions of cowards who rather than compete properly for the 2nd place prize money decided to share it. What's the point in Pro sports teams who have given up trying? Scottish fitba is in a mess because for years the other clubs have been happy to accept that 3rd place is the best there is. Now the opportunity to significantly benefit financially from the absence of Sevco by winning a big prize has been shied away from. It just stinks.

hibs supporter
09-03-2013, 12:11 PM
think money should get divided by apperances on tv aswell

Eyrie
09-03-2013, 12:46 PM
think money should get divided by apperances on tv aswell
Makes sense that the home team should get a flat fee to compensate for any reduction in attendance.

Andy74
09-03-2013, 06:10 PM
Sensible? More like the actions of cowards who rather than compete properly for the 2nd place prize money decided to share it. What's the point in Pro sports teams who have given up trying? Scottish fitba is in a mess because for years the other clubs have been happy to accept that 3rd place is the best there is. Now the opportunity to significantly benefit financially from the absence of Sevco by winning a big prize has been shied away from. It just stinks.

Hasn't it just been spread round a bit more? More teams will financially benefit.

M11BMO
09-03-2013, 06:13 PM
Does anyone know the cash figures for finishing league positions?

blackpoolhibs
09-03-2013, 06:36 PM
Is this not quite sensible to ensure there is none of us smaller teams that can suddenly get a big cash boost by happening to be second when Rangers weren't here. You could find that would make a huge difference to them and create a bit of an imbalance.

When its Celtic and Rangers both getting big figures it makes no odds.

The problem is its not equitably shared and unduly skewed to the top two positions. However, in the present circumstances it makes sense that the clubs have voted to ensure one of them doesn't get away from the rest.

Andy you cannot be serious, should we just know our place and make sure we dont get ideas above our station? :confused:

marinello59
09-03-2013, 06:43 PM
Hasn't it just been spread round a bit more? More teams will financially benefit.

If they want to do that why hasn't the prize for first place been spread about a bit more. It's a gutless decision.

Andy74
09-03-2013, 06:48 PM
Andy you cannot be serious, should we just know our place and make sure we dont get ideas above our station? :confused:

No but Im guessing what's happened is that the rest of us clubs that are largely on a par have decided it would make a huge difference this year if someone took the second placed cash. Not knowing who that may be they've decided it's safer to split it a bit more amongst all of them.

Not saying its right or that it wouldn't have been better taking some of celtics too but I can see the thinking and its reasonably sensible this year.

Bishop Hibee
09-03-2013, 06:49 PM
A disgrace. The other teams cower in the face of Celtc including our own sadly. A chance for a bit more of a level playing field and the clubs bottle it :grr:

sesoim
10-03-2013, 03:13 AM
On the one hand, I'm a bit happier now that we aren't missing out on a huge bonus by finishing second this season (that can wait till next season when a Champions League place comes with it!). On the other, I'm appalled (but not surprised) by the cowardess and bum-licking that is still going on in the SPL.

Surely once Rangers dropped out the League this was our chance to take control of Scottish football again and make it fairer for everyone?

lord bunberry
10-03-2013, 03:32 AM
No but Im guessing what's happened is that the rest of us clubs that are largely on a par have decided it would make a huge difference this year if someone took the second placed cash. Not knowing who that may be they've decided it's safer to split it a bit more amongst all of them.

Not saying its right or that it wouldn't have been better taking some of celtics too but I can see the thinking and its reasonably sensible this year.

Is it not possible that its against the rules to change the allocation of prize money during the season so the other clubs have made an agreement amongst themselves

Ozyhibby
10-03-2013, 07:45 AM
Is it not possible that its against the rules to change the allocation of prize money during the season so the other clubs have made an agreement amongst themselves

If Celtic were the only dissenting voice then that is a possibility. We can only hope that is the reason.
Guess we will find out during the summer when the new system is worked out.