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Scouse Hibee
26-01-2013, 07:08 PM
Died after being pinned down by members of the public during an attempted armed robbery of a bookies.


Public 1 Armed Robbers 0

Jonnyboy
26-01-2013, 07:11 PM
Died after being pinned down by members of the public during an attempted armed robbery of a bookies.


Public 1 Armed Robbers 0

Jeez, what's the odds on that? :wink:

blackpoolhibs
26-01-2013, 07:16 PM
Jeez, what's the odds on that? :wink:

Heard it was a dead heat?

Scouse Hibee
26-01-2013, 07:30 PM
Jeez, what's the odds on that? :wink:


A dead cert

Future17
27-01-2013, 12:47 AM
Guy in his 50s with an imitation firearm. Dead. Not really a laughing matter.

Wilson
27-01-2013, 06:45 AM
Guy in his 50s with an imitation firearm. Dead. Not really a laughing matter.

Not for him at least.

Scouse Hibee
27-01-2013, 07:22 AM
Guy in his 50s with an imitation firearm. Dead. Not really a laughing matter.


No sympathy for an armed robber from me!

Beefster
27-01-2013, 07:44 AM
Guy in his 50s with an imitation firearm. Dead. Not really a laughing matter.

It isn't and I have some sympathy for his family. I've zero sympathy for him though.

Hibs Class
27-01-2013, 07:44 AM
Guy in his 50s with an imitation firearm. Dead. Not really a laughing matter.

It's sad that someone has died. However it would be more sad if we're referring to a member of staff or a customer at the bookies, or a policeman, who had been shot in an armed robbery. That it was an imitation is irrelevant.

Pretty Boy
27-01-2013, 11:21 AM
Armed robbery? How can it be armed robbery with a ****ing replica?

Scouse Hibee
27-01-2013, 11:22 AM
Armed robbery? How can it be armed robbery with a ****ing replica?

You're joking right? :wink:

bigwheel
27-01-2013, 11:39 AM
Armed robbery? How can it be armed robbery with a ****ing replica?

Yeh, because people will always be able to tell that the gun pointed at them is a replica or not ..... Pfffff

Wilson
27-01-2013, 11:55 AM
You're joking right?

Fairly sure it is a line from Trainspotting.

Pretty Boy
27-01-2013, 12:22 PM
Yeh, because people will always be able to tell that the gun pointed at them is a replica or not ..... Pfffff

Never seen Trainspotting then?

bigwheel
27-01-2013, 01:24 PM
Lol. missed the joke - fair play !

Mikey
27-01-2013, 01:36 PM
It'll be interesting to see if he really died while being pinned down or if they kicked seven shades of keek out of him.

There will be CCTV in the shop so it'll come out soon enough.

Sir David Gray
27-01-2013, 01:43 PM
Guy in his 50s with an imitation firearm. Dead. Not really a laughing matter.

Can't really get too upset to be honest.

The saying "if you fly with the crows, you get shot with the crows" springs to mind.

I've no sympathy at all for anyone like that.

If you go in to burgle someone's home or take part in an armed robbery like this (the fact his firearm was not real is of absolutely no relevance as the people who were in the shop at the time weren't to know that) then you give up any rights as far as I'm concerned.

Hell mend him.

Scouse Hibee
27-01-2013, 01:48 PM
It'll be interesting to see if he really died while being pinned down or if they kicked seven shades of keek out of him.

There will be CCTV in the shop so it'll come out soon enough.

There was an incident in England quite a few years back where a Security guard sat on a guy he had on the floor in order to restrain him whilst waiting for the Police. His weight prevented the guy from breathing and he subsequently died, could be something similar in this case.

Beefster
27-01-2013, 02:40 PM
It'll be interesting to see if he really died while being pinned down or if they kicked seven shades of keek out of him.

There will be CCTV in the shop so it'll come out soon enough.

Apparently the robber had some lung condition where he found it hard to breathe normally, never mind with two burly blokes sitting on him.

To be honest, even if the punters kicked the bejesus out of him, I'd still let them be. If you point a gun (real or otherwise) at someone and they subsequently overpower you, I would think some retribution would be in order.

Hibrandenburg
27-01-2013, 03:07 PM
Apparently the robber had some lung condition where he found it hard to breathe normally, never mind with two burly blokes sitting on him.

To be honest, even if the punters kicked the bejesus out of him, I'd still let them be. If you point a gun (real or otherwise) at someone and they subsequently overpower you, I would think some retribution would be in order.

:agree: If you threaten someone with a knife or gun then prepare to die yourself. If you try and make someone believe you have a weapon then don't be surprised if they react like you have a weapon.

Mikey
27-01-2013, 03:21 PM
Apparently the robber had some lung condition where he found it hard to breathe normally, never mind with two burly blokes sitting on him.

To be honest, even if the punters kicked the bejesus out of him, I'd still let them be. If you point a gun (real or otherwise) at someone and they subsequently overpower you, I would think some retribution would be in order.

Would have been even more difficult if he was still wearing the gas mask :agree:

blackpoolhibs
27-01-2013, 03:44 PM
Apparently the robber had some lung condition where he found it hard to breathe normally, never mind with two burly blokes sitting on him.



Completely cured now.

HibsMax
29-01-2013, 06:01 PM
This is an interesting thread and makes me think about the death penalty debates.

To review.

If someone breaks into an establishment trying to rob the place at gun point (regardless of the gun being fake or not), he should expect the worst and as Ivan Drago said, "If he dies, he dies".

Now consider a person who is convicted of murder, a crime where someone actually died, should they be put to death? Seems like he should expect it.

You could argue that since the "armed" robber was there that it is an open and shut case i.e., the wrong man didn't die, but I believe such cases exist in other crimes and it's those crimes that I would consider as being suitable for a death penalty verdict.

Just my $0.02.

Scouse Hibee
29-01-2013, 06:10 PM
This is an interesting thread and makes me think about the death penalty debates.

To review.

If someone breaks into an establishment trying to rob the place at gun point (regardless of the gun being fake or not), he should expect the worst and as Ivan Drago said, "If he dies, he dies".

Now consider a person who is convicted of murder, a crime where someone actually died, should they be put to death? Seems like he should expect it.

You could argue that since the "armed" robber was there that it is an open and shut case i.e., the wrong man didn't die, but I believe such cases exist in other crimes and it's those crimes that I would consider as being suitable for a death penalty verdict.

Just my $0.02.

He died as a result of being restrained by people whilst committing the crime, if a murderer died whilst being restrained by people at the scene of the crime then so be it. Maybe the answer is to kill these people at the scene of the crime where possible :greengrin

HibsMax
29-01-2013, 06:50 PM
He died as a result of being restrained by people whilst committing the crime, if a murderer died whilst being restrained by people at the scene of the crime then so be it. Maybe the answer is to kill these people at the scene of the crime where possible :greengrin
Bingo! :wink:

RyeSloan
29-01-2013, 08:08 PM
He died as a result of being restrained by people whilst committing the crime, if a murderer died whilst being restrained by people at the scene of the crime then so be it. Maybe the answer is to kill these people at the scene of the crime where possible :greengrin

You might be closer to the truth than you think :greengrin