ICT 3 v 0 Hibs (FT)

[Hibs90]

Dreadful stuff.

[Hibees07]

BBC Website say's that we had 1 (one) shot at goal, surely this has to be wrong.

If it is right then I pity all those that made the long trek.

We are so weak physically that we will really struggle without the likes of McPake & Clancy against the big physical teams like Inverness.

Paddy needs to add some height & physical power this January.

[silverhibee]

Gtf.


:tee hee:

[matty_f]

From what was on display today, i'd say it's a little bit beyond problematic.

We can't rely on having a fully fit squad all the time, it's the same for any team in the SPL. But others always seem to cope far better with it than ourselves.

We'd have been as well having all 11 of those players on the pitch out injured today and picking 11 fans out from the crowd. They'd have put in a far better shift.

We have been sitting at the top end of the table all season, even without the 3 key injuries. It's not been that problematic, but it does impact consistency.

It is the same for all the SPL sides and we've been doing ok.

[NOLA]

:agree: Fenlon's got a lot out of these players over the last few weeks, we were probably due a game like this.

aye, the dundee game.

[dmc1875]

Ever since I've followed Hibs, that seems to be the problem - can't compete, even when playing badly. But isn't that just what Deegs and McPake bring to the team? PF says it's a work in progress, so maybe we need a few more "competitive" players if we're going to get somewhere in this league.

Even then, we still seem to suffer from that other age-old Hibs problem - giving the ball away at throw-ins.


Can never get my head round why this is a consistent problem with Hibs teams!


Bad day at the office today, although lets be honest we could all see it coming. An abject showing up in Inverness is something that Hibs teams past and present like to put out.

Defence was absolutely shocking today, especially the left hand side. We just didnt seem too interested so hopefully they get a rollocking from Pat

[Keith_M]

Att: 14,410 at the pink wongadome, that'll be another full house then


Funnily enough, that's really no comfort when your team's just been beaten 3-0 in an abject peformance.

[DaveF]

:agree: Fenlon's got a lot out of these players over the last few weeks, we were probably due a game like this.

Not sure I'd agree with that. We have (IMO) been very poor over the last month not creating chances and certainly not dominating games (perhaps Aberdeen apart) and we just seem to have hit a wall.

[Just_Jimmy]

Ict are 14 unbeaten at home.

Move on.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Funnily enough, that's really no comfort when your team's just been beaten 3-0 in an abject peformance.






aww will it not help change the result ;(

[cabbageandribs1875]

Ict are 14 unbeaten at home.

Move on.


motherwell put 5 past them three weeks ago in inverness


infact, motherwell also put 4 past them at fir park as well, we should ask stuart McCall his secret :greengrin

[Mr White]

Get behind the team and try to get back on track with a home win against motherwell next week. Its all we can do, we're still in a good position in the league.

[Ray_]

:agree: Fenlon's got a lot out of these players over the last few weeks, we were probably due a game like this.

Matty, this is our third defeat in the last three weeks, we of course won two during that time, but I don't think in any of the games we have been good enough to crow about, in truth we are still pretty poor and we still have a long long way to go & its still a disgrace how we ever got to this level.

[matty_f]

aye, the dundee game.

And what have our results been since that game?

[Alfred E Newman]

Some people are still saying "We'll have games like this".

Do you mean games that we don't take any part in what so ever?

Losing 3-0 is one thing, but losing 3-0 because you just didn't bother turning up is something else.

You can add to that the old "bad day at the office " stuff. Hibs should not be getting hammered 3-0 by Inverness. End of story.

[matty_f]

Matty, this is our third defeat in the last three weeks, we of course won two during that time, but I don't think in any of the games we have been good enough to crow about, in truth we are still pretty poor and we still have a long long way to go & its still a disgrace how we ever got to this level.

Good stuff.

[marinello59]

Matty, this is our third defeat in the last three weeks, we of course won two during that time, but I don't think in any of the games we have been good enough to crow about, in truth we are still pretty poor and we still have a long long way to go & its still a disgrace how we ever got to this level.

I'd agree with that. The best we have played in recent games was against Aberdeen and we lost that one. Pat Fenlon has us going in the right direction but attitude and effort can't replace quality in depth.

[JimBHibees]

Ict are 14 unbeaten at home.

Move on.

Motherwell beat them there 5-1 a couple of weeks back.

[fatbloke]

I watched the Caley, Ross C game last week and honestly did not think we would have any problems today, don't reckon ICT were that good but just goes to show, maybe Hibs are not that good at the moment.

Absolute understatement - on way home not a happy bunny.

[blackpoolhibs]

I expected this today, we have a very small squad who have been doing well, but we are stretched at the moment.

I dont think Pat picked the right team or formation today, but thats just my opinion. He will have felt the team he picked could have won today, but that was not to be.

We need our injured players back, but although we lost today we have done very well so far this season. :thumbsup:

[matty_f]

I expected this today, we have a very small squad who have been doing well, but we are stretched at the moment.

I dont think Pat picked the right team or formation today, but thats just my opinion. He will have felt the team he picked could have won today, but that was not to be.

We need our injured players back, but although we lost today we have done very well so far this season. :thumbsup:

:top marks

Exactly right, imho.

[EK_Hibs]

Att: 3,422


that's 90 more than the caley v hertz game a few weeks ago, big team my ar@e :greengrin


That game was on TV though in all fairness

[Togs91]

Can never get my head round why this is a consistent problem with Hibs teams!


Bad day at the office today, although lets be honest we could all see it coming. An abject showing up in Inverness is something that Hibs teams past and present like to put out.

Defence was absolutely shocking today, especially the left hand side. We just didnt seem too interested so hopefully they get a rollocking from Pat

Just out the ground, shocking performance. And this throw in issue, theres no urgency about the players to take them and get on with it! And nobody seems to want the ball, dire to watch! All in all today was poor, alot of heads down and just pointlessly loosing the ball.

[Danderhall Hibs]

:top marks

Exactly right, imho.

It is right but there's always a place for constructive criticism. We shouldn't be so accepting of a pumping

[matty_f]

It is right but there's always a place for constructive criticism. We shouldn't be so accepting of a pumping

Gtf. :greengrin:


I agree, I look forward to reading the constructive criticism.

[NOLA]

And what have our results been since that game?

the performances have been ******, the sad thing about today is its not a shock result, predictable even. which is a crap state of affairs.

[Hibernia Na Eir]

Inverness and Hibs trips there don't go.

[JohnScott]

You can add to that the old "bad day at the office " stuff. Hibs should not be getting hammered 3-0 by Inverness. End of story.

Why not? What makes us so special then?

[kentao]

Hibs strength is their ability to attack and score goals. Our weakness is defending so why did we setup to defend and try hit on the counter attack. Id rather we played to our strength and got beat than setup defensively and try to hold out for a draw .

It was always going to be a tough game but im looking forward to what Pat can bring in during January.

GGTTH

[matty_f]

the performances have been ******, the sad thing about today is its not a shock result, predictable even. which is a crap state of affairs.

I didn't expect us to win today though i thought we could. We've not got a good squad, we've known that for a while. Our back four is patched up and we're missing a key midfielder.

We were never going to sail through the season, we were always going to run into a spell of injuries or suspensions and this is what happens when it comes.

[down-the-slope]

Disappointing but not surprised - was expecting a score draw as best we would manage. Last 2 games have been 2 of the poorest performances of the season. As many have mentioned our small squad with inexperience in a fair bit of it is now showing. It was always going to happen when injuries / loss of form kicked in - BUT it was crucial we spent on more quality and experience for that lesser number - without it we would not be having the season we have had so far, which is way beyond most of our pre season expectations.

Biggest disapointment is lack of contribution from the bench / squads more experienced players (Kuqi / Ivan in particular) we just need to grit our collective teeth until the transfer window when hopefully we can trim the last of the deadwood and bring a couple more in (and get back the 3 medium term injuries)

Still more ups than downs and a home match next up

[scoopyboy]

It is right but there's always a place for constructive criticism. We shouldn't be so accepting of a pumping

I agree DH.

My constructive criticism is that our squad is wafer thin and we are only a couple of injuries away from regular pumpings.

However Rome wasn't built in a day and unfortunately our defensive cover is nil at the moment, god only knows what would have happened if McGivern or Hanlon picked up a knock today. Kuqi at CH????????? Even the last couple of weeks we have only had the untried laddie Donaldson as cover.

We need our injured players back and a couple more brought in.

The only other option I can see is throw the laddies in.

[God Petrie]

"We will never be pushovers again" - aye, very good Hibs...

Wish McPake had never said this because it just gives clowns like you an excuse every time we get beat.

[matty_f]

Scoopyboy and down-the-slope :top marks

[edinburghhibee]

Some folk need to have a word with themselves. Yes it's a poor result, yes it's not great but hey... Look where we are compared to last year. Folk would be on saying they wanted a team to compete we now have that. Inverness is never an easy place to go. We dust ourselves down and start again against Motherwell.

Get a grip on reality please let's not let this get out of control.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

I agree DH.



The only other option I can see is throw the laddies in.

Caldwell and Handling well overdue a start IMO but yes we have to get that defence sorted and hopefull in Janury Pat will wave his magic wand and get some big laddies in there.

[silverhibee]

Scoopyboy and down-the-slope :top marks

Gtf. :tee hee:

[cad]

We're a decent side with everyone fit. 3 key players out at the same time is always going to show our problems.



I think we are a better side than last year Matty , but its still very fragile few injuries and the cracks appear.
Pat`s mended some and got lucky with more than a few results ,its easy to pick faults but you must admit Ivan and the big fella dont give you much if anything ,youngsters must wonder why they travelled up there no
If Hibs are in the top 4 at the end of the season I think we will have gone above and beyond all expectations our good start maybe buffer the injuries we have just now ,TBH the 9 goals lost at Dundee Ross County and ICT is a huge worry ICT have knocked 5 past us in 2 games Pats got his work cut out maybe a youngsters or 2 getting a start could boost the club the last few games due to those injuries we have been pretty flat we need a pick me up hope the youngsters get a shot at it ,Ivan and the big guy just aint worth the wages IMO.

[matty_f]

Gtf. :tee hee:

:hilarious

[down-the-slope]

Gtf. :tee hee:

:wtf:

[fatbloke]

Because Doyle has been poor for the last 4 games.

Easy in hindsight but he's made the wrong changes today. Personally would've rather seen Caldwell and Handling start together. Even Stanton or Harris, too many of our creative players seem to be running on empty and could have done with a rest. Sproule has had too many chances.

What creative players?? Aye 90 minutes work a week is tiring:rolleyes:

Or are you having a laugh?

[matty_f]

:wtf:

Should maybe read the whole thread. :agree:

[cocopops1875]

I honestly can't believe after the few seasons we have had that some "fans" think we have a right to go and get anything at ICT or anywhere for that matter, this season is a step a work in progress and at the moment it's looking like a huge improvement so lets just chill the **ck out

[Craig_in_Prague]

11/10 ICT easy money.

[HibeeN]

What creative players?? Aye 90 minutes work a week is tiring:rolleyes:

Or are you having a laugh?

Cairney and Spoony. We need them to be playing well if we want to get the service to Griffiths and Doyle/whoever else is up front. If they don't see much of the ball or aren't doing enough in the way of attacking, then we won't score. Our strikers aren't the type of players who we can hit it up to and hope that they can make something of it - they are dependent on the players around them. It would also help if we had full-backs who could help with an overlap in the attacking sense, but that isn't really available to us at the moment.

[silverhibee]

:wtf:

Gtf :tee hee:

[silverhibee]

Should maybe read the whole thread. :agree:

A bit fun. :agree:





















































































Now Gtf. :tee hee:

[The Voice Of Reason]

11/10 ICT easy money.

23/20 ICT (Bet 365) was even easier money.

[HFC 0-7]

Fully expected us to get beat today, just not in the manner that it happened. The team today was weak but worrying was that individually the players didn't seem to play well and to be honest they haven't or a few games now. Probably because the squad is weak and we can't rotate players and we haven't been winning a game comfortably enough to bring in the subs as many of the bench is either young or not he much game time. I predicted at the start of the season we would struggle with this squad when injuries kicked in and that the real problem would be fans reactions to defeats if we started the season well.

Many fans at the start of the season had much lower expectations that what they have now, I just hope that fans are realistic and remember that this is still an improvement to last season. When we have our full team fit and playing we will win most games, when we get injuries we don't have the cover and there will be more results like today. FWIW, I think the tactics were suspect today, but I think even different tactics today wouldn't have changed a defeat into a draw or win.

[matty_f]

Fully expected us to get beat today, just not in the manner that it happened. The team today was weak but worrying was that individually the players didn't seem to play well and to be honest they haven't or a few games now. Probably because the squad is weak and we can't rotate players and we haven't been winning a game comfortably enough to bring in the subs as many of the bench is either young or not he much game time. I predicted at the start of the season we would struggle with this squad when injuries kicked in and that the real problem would be fans reactions to defeats if we started the season well.

Many fans at the start of the season had much lower expectations that what they have now, I just hope that fans are realistic and remember that this is still an improvement to last season. When we have our full team fit and playing we will win most games, when we get injuries we don't have the cover and there will be more results like today. FWIW, I think the tactics were suspect today, but I think even different tactics today wouldn't have changed a defeat into a draw or win.

Very good post. :agree:

[Bishop Hibee]

I expected this today, we have a very small squad who have been doing well, but we are stretched at the moment.

I dont think Pat picked the right team or formation today, but thats just my opinion. He will have felt the team he picked could have won today, but that was not to be.

We need our injured players back, but although we lost today we have done very well so far this season. :thumbsup:

Agree with pretty much all of this apart from the 'expected' bit. Having been at Perth and the Hearts game I thought a defeat was a possibility and would have been happy with a draw before KO. The next step is to bring in a forward (or 2 if Griffiths goes) and an attacking/creative midfielder. I'd love Murray Davidson in a Hibs strip. Claros and Taiwo are far too similar to be playing in midfield together as would any combination of these two with Deegan.

After the nadir of last season, this season has been a breath of fresh air. Tough game next week v Motherwell but our home record is good and hopefully McPake will be back.

GGTTH.

[CRAZYHIBBY]

We're just not good enough and need to sign a few players in january

[Love the Green]

I expected this today, we have a very small squad who have been doing well, but we are stretched at the moment.

I dont think Pat picked the right team or formation today, but thats just my opinion. He will have felt the team he picked could have won today, but that was not to be.

We need our injured players back, but although we lost today we have done very well so far this season. :thumbsup:

Blackpool and which one of these injured players is goung to add any attacking skill to this very ordinary bunch of slow, tackleless and pathetic passing skilled team?
The 2 book ends in midfield cannot pass a ball 10 yards, take on an opponent, win a ball in the air or tackle add lack pace and nor do any of them shoot or thread any quality passes forward.

Mind you with the even weaker doyle up front what would he do with any sort of defence splitting pass.
This tanking was on the cards for weeks as we have been stinking.
No offence meant

"keep the faith":thumbsup:

[fatbloke]

Cairney and Spoony. We need them to be playing well if we want to get the service to Griffiths and Doyle/whoever else is up front. If they don't see much of the ball or aren't doing enough in the way of attacking, then we won't score. Our strikers aren't the type of players who we can hit it up to and hope that they can make something of it - they are dependent on the players around them. It would also help if we had full-backs who could help with an overlap in the attacking sense, but that isn't really available to us at the moment.

Ok then IMHO Spoony goes backwards too much - he chose to go forward once last week and got the goal - if you don't believe me watch the match again, he constantly played the ball back. Cairney has been a cracking addition but i get the feeling he has little or no confidence in those around him, judging by the amount of times he tries to do it all himself. Taiwo, Claros and Ivan don't do it for me - sorry. Trying to think of the last time our midfield played a killer ball in to the front men and am struggling - mind you my memory is crap anyway:greengrin.

[fatbloke]

Blackpool and which one of these injured players is goung to add any attacking skill to this very ordinary bunch of slow, tackleless and pathetic passing skilled team?
The 2 book ends in midfield cannot pass a ball 10 yards, take on an opponent, win a ball in the air or tackle add lack pace and nor do any of them shoot or thread any quality passes forward.

Mind you with the even weaker doyle up front what would he do with any sort of defence splitting pass.
This tanking was on the cards for weeks as we have been stinking.
No offence meant

"keep the faith":thumbsup:

Aye about 12 weeks - honestly how many games have we played well this season? - honestly now.

[cocopops1875]

Blackpool and which one of these injured players is goung to add any attacking skill to this very ordinary bunch of slow, tackleless and pathetic passing skilled team?
The 2 book ends in midfield cannot pass a ball 10 yards, take on an opponent, win a ball in the air or tackle add lack pace and nor do any of them shoot or thread any quality passes forward.

Mind you with the even weaker doyle up front what would he do with any sort of defence splitting pass.
This tanking was on the cards for weeks as we have been stinking.
No offence meant

"keep the faith":thumbsup:
McPake will allow McGivern to get forward I thought his vision and passing was great at left back

[blackpoolhibs]

Blackpool and which one of these injured players is goung to add any attacking skill to this very ordinary bunch of slow, tackleless and pathetic passing skilled team?
The 2 book ends in midfield cannot pass a ball 10 yards, take on an opponent, win a ball in the air or tackle add lack pace and nor do any of them shoot or thread any quality passes forward.

Mind you with the even weaker doyle up front what would he do with any sort of defence splitting pass.
This tanking was on the cards for weeks as we have been stinking.
No offence meant

"keep the faith":thumbsup:

Excuse me for being blunt, but that whole post is complete bollox. :rolleyes: No offence meant.

[HibeeN]

Ok then IMHO Spoony goes backwards too much - he chose to go forward once last week and got the goal - if you don't believe me watch the match again, he constantly played the ball back. Cairney has been a cracking addition but i get the feeling he has little or no confidence in those around him, judging by the amount of times he tries to do it all himself. Taiwo, Claros and Ivan don't do it for me - sorry. Trying to think of the last time our midfield played a killer ball in to the front men and am struggling - mind you my memory is crap anyway:greengrin.

Both players have that problem of going backwards at certain points, and like others have said, I think it's because our full-backs don't push up high enough to allow them much space. Both Cairney and Spoony find themselves crowded out a lot and either have to play it back or cut inside instead of getting into the wide areas.

Disagree about Cairney trying to do it all himself, I think he is a very unselfish player (5 assists and involved in many more goals this season) and think he only goes it alone when there aren't any other options around him. As for killer balls, off the top of my head there was the ball to Spoony for the derby, two great balls v Dundee Utd (nutmeg+cutback to Doyle, and ball to Doyle who set up Griffith's goal), sure there are more.

They've both chipped in with goals and assists this season and I think that when they play well, Hibs play well. Trouble is, when they aren't playing well or if they can't impose themselves on the game, the service up front is completely diminished.

[Alfred E Newman]

Why not? What makes us so special then?

Sorry John, I forgot that a club like Hibs cannot expect to compete with a club of the calibre of Inverness with all their resources.

[Love the Green]

Excuse me for being blunt, but that whole post is complete bollox. :rolleyes: No offence meant.

Yes sorry about that BH.. we have been magic this season midfield bullying and dominating every opposition creating chance afetr chance for our goal machine doyle. Cutting defences apart and looking second only to top CL teams this season.
Time people on here actaully opened their eyes and realised how poor our team is.

"keep the faith.

[hibsbollah]

I predicted the result, I even predicted the scoreline :rolleyes: (although, as ever, I didnt bet when I was actually right). We are missing three crucial players, and as much we all like him, Ivan Sproule is not going to create lots of chances anymore, Maybury is prone to mistakes that Clancy just isnt, Taiwo can't make his opposite number soil himself like Deegan can, and McGivern can overlap and create things as a left back in a way wee Lewis just cant. We have makeshift players at LB, RB, CB, Rightmid, Centremid.

The fact we're still hanging about at the top of the table without Clancy McPake and Deegan is amazing IMO, and when they come back Im fairly positive we'll start winning again:aok:

[Hibeesforever]

Ok then IMHO Spoony goes backwards too much - he chose to go forward once last week and got the goal - if you don't believe me watch the match again, he constantly played the ball back. Cairney has been a cracking addition but i get the feeling he has little or no confidence in those around him, judging by the amount of times he tries to do it
all himself. Taiwo, Claros and Ivan don't do it for me - sorry. Trying to think of the last time our midfield played a killer ball in to the front men and am struggling - mind you my memory is crap anyway:greengrin.

I agree about Spoony but the full back will never overlap so no forward space created for him. Carlos needs quality around him. Taiwo, still learning, is not tough enough and also has that classic look good pass it sideways or backwards approach.
Our Scotland striker doesn't seem to run in the channels, hence no defence splitting passes. Cairney centre mid ?
Still, long season and happy we beat Hearts and St. Johnstone. Next week a different Hibs will turn up.

[HibeeN]

Yes sorry about that BH.. we have been magic this season midfield bullying and dominating every opposition creating chance afetr chance for our goal machine doyle. Cutting defences apart and looking second only to top CL teams this season.
Time people on here actaully opened their eyes and realised how poor our team is.

"keep the faith.

You seem to have a bit of a problem with Doyle. :confused: I'll admit, he's not been great in the past few games, but he is sitting on 5 goals this season which isn't bad at all when you look at some of the other SPL players on a similar tally. Plus he has set up a few goals as well. Hope he is just going through a wee dip in form and gets back to his usual performances soon, because I thought him and Griffiths were forging a really good partnership with each other - maybe it's no coincidence that Griffith's goals have stopped coming since Doyle's drop in form?

[blackpoolhibs]

Yes sorry about that BH.. we have been magic this season midfield bullying and dominating every opposition creating chance afetr chance for our goal machine doyle. Cutting defences apart and looking second only to top CL teams this season.
Time people on here actaully opened their eyes and realised how poor our team is.

"keep the faith.

Again no offence, but more bollox. :rolleyes:

[Scouse Hibee]

You can add to that the old "bad day at the office " stuff. Hibs should not be getting hammered 3-0 by Inverness. End of story.

That comment hits the nail on the head with the delusions of grandeur that many of our supporters have. Me included sometimes :greengrin

FFS we're not that good and certainly not good enough to be rated as a club that shouldn't get beat by certain other clubs. The sooner people wake up to the realism that regrdless of what is in your mind and how you percieve us, we are what we are.......................a struggling club making some progress and improvement. We win some we lose some, we are simply nowhere good enough yet to claim the morale high ground over clubs "that shouldn't be beating us"

[scoopyboy]

Again no offence, but more bollox. :rolleyes:

Blackpool, wid it no be easier just offending him?:greengrin

[Love the Green]

Excuse me for being blunt, but that whole post is complete bollox. :rolleyes: No offence meant.

Yes sorry about that BH.. we have been magic this season midfield bullying and dominating every opposition creating chance afetr chance for our goal machine doyle. Cutting defences apart and looking second only to top CL teams this season.
Time people on here actaully opened their eyes and realised how poor our team is.

"keep the faith.

[scoopyboy]

You can add to that the old "bad day at the office " stuff. Hibs should not be getting hammered 3-0 by Inverness. End of story.

Could you give me a list of who can acceptably beat us 3-0 and who can't please, it would help me for future reference?

[EuanH78]

Blackpool and which one of these injured players is goung to add any attacking skill to this very ordinary bunch of slow, tackleless and pathetic passing skilled team?
The 2 book ends in midfield cannot pass a ball 10 yards, take on an opponent, win a ball in the air or tackle add lack pace and nor do any of them shoot or thread any quality passes forward.

Mind you with the even weaker doyle up front what would he do with any sort of defence splitting pass.
This tanking was on the cards for weeks as we have been stinking.
No offence meant

"keep the faith":thumbsup:

What a load of crap. It's a small squad and injuries to key players will take its toll. I think we have coped quite well considering.

I'm also sure that PF does not think this is the finished article yet, lower your expectations a little before writing off the whole team. We barely escaped relegation last season in case you have forgotten - the transformation of the team from then to now has been remarkable. Enjoy this team for what it is - a work in progress, a couple of bad performances and a bad result are not that indicative.

[blackpoolhibs]

Blackpool, wid it no be easier just offending him?:greengrin

:greengrin

[fatbloke]

Could you give me a list of who can acceptably beat us 3-0 and who can't please, it would help me for future reference?

ICT & Dundee will do for me.

[TheEastTerrace]

If you look at the league table, only Killie and Dundee have lost more games than us yet only Sellick have won more games than us. So we seem to blow hot and cold quite frequently. Having seen the home games, there's no doubt we'd be struggling without Griffiths' goals and the loss of McPake, Clancy and Deegan have highlighted the threadbare nature of what's at Pat's disposal to plug the gaps.

Today again showed that the league is as tight as a knot in a midges ***** but if we can be thereabouts come March/April, I don't see why Hibs can't challenge for the European spots.

I think we need a bit of perspective though, it was only last season that we were being beaten almost every week and days like this will happen as we try to make progress. I'm sure Pat will have the players focussing on next week now and continuing our decent home record

[scoopyboy]

ICT & Dundee will do for me.

wisnae askin you

[NewHibby]

If you look at the league table, only Killie and Dundee have lost more games than us yet only Sellick have won more games than us. So we seem to blow hot and cold quite frequently. Having seen the home games, there's no doubt we'd be struggling without Griffiths' goals and the loss of McPake, Clancy and Deegan have highlighted the threadbare nature of what's at Pat's disposal to plug the gaps.

Today again showed that the league is as tight as a knot in a midges ***** but if we can be thereabouts come March/April, I don't see why Hibs can't challenge for the European spots.

I think we need a bit of perspective though, it was only last season that we were being beaten almost every week and days like this will happen as we try to make progress. I'm sure Pat will have the players focussing on next week now and continuing our decent home record

Beautifully summed up:wink:

[blackpoolhibs]

It seems were are not good enough when were are getting pumped and in a relegation fight, but also we are not good enough when we are 4th, and according to some 2nd?

Now i'm the first to tell it when we are poor, but if you cant see the progress we have made, and how thin we are with players, then you are either daft/blind or a yam at the wind up?

What position should we be in, if we have been so poor and lucky?

And just how poor and lucky have the other teams been, or have they all been superb and unlucky?

[Love the Green]

:greengrin

more adult posts from BH..lets see if you are so smart in May when this lot dont even make the top 6 and the dogs from gorgie finish above us.

"keep the true faith":agree:

[blackpoolhibs]

more adult posts from bh..lets see if you are so smart in may when this lot dont even make the top 6 and the dogs from gorgie finish above us.

"keep the true faith":agree:

ltyf

[Jonnyboy]

more adult posts from BH..lets see if you are so smart in May when this lot dont even make the top 6 and the dogs from gorgie finish above us.

"keep the true faith":agree:

You really should think about changing your username and deleting that "keep the true faith" nonsense as you try very hard to contradict both almost every time you post :wink:

[EuanH78]

ltyf

:agree:

[Love the Green]

What a load of crap. It's a small squad and injuries to key players will take its toll. I think we have coped quite well considering.

I'm also sure that PF does not think this is the finished article yet, lower your expectations a little before writing off the whole team. We barely escaped relegation last season in case you have forgotten - the transformation of the team from then to now has been remarkable. Enjoy this team for what it is - a work in progress, a couple of bad performances and a bad result are not that indicative.

Side splitter other teams are poorer this year and only 1 OF team in competition thats hwy we appear to have in proved so much.
A couple of BAD performances more lik 6/7 although not as many bad results as 6/7.

"kep the faith":confused:

[Alfred E Newman]

Could you give me a list of who can acceptably beat us 3-0 and who can't please, it would help me for future reference?

Losing heavily to clubs with similar or better resourses than ourselves while not acceptable is liable to happen. I don`t rate ICT as one of them. It is no surprise to me that we lost today but the manner of the defeat is worrying.

[Mr White]

You really should think about changing your username and deleting that "keep the true faith" nonsense as you try very hard to contradict both almost every time you post :wink:

Maybe not Jonnyboy, I've a feeling that the green in his username refers to the type just decriminalised in Washington state rather than the colour of a hibs top.

[Jonnyboy]

Maybe not Jonnyboy, I've a feeling that the green in his username refers to the type just decriminalised in Washington state rather than the colour of a hibs top.

:greengrin

[EuanH78]

Side splitter other teams are poorer this year and only 1 OF team in competition thats hwy we appear to have in proved so much.
A couple of BAD performances more lik 6/7 although not as many bad results as 6/7.

"kep the faith":confused:

Why does only having 1 OF team make us look better? We were getting beaten by nearly all the teams in the league to put us in relegation trouble not just the OF. Getting results with bad performances is what good teams do.

Anyway, obvious troll is obvious.
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[scoopyboy]

Losing heavily to clubs with similar or better resourses than ourselves while not acceptable is liable to happen. I don`t rate ICT as one of them. It is no surprise to me that we lost today but the manner of the defeat is worrying.

Good response to my question which was a bit on the ignorant side.

However I do think you are being a wee bit unfair to ICT.

They have won 1-0 at Parkhead, 3-2 at Pittodrie and beat us 3-0 in their last three league games to sit second in the league. They are in the semis of the League Cup and thumped Rangers 3-0 in Glasgow.

That is great shooting for any Scottish club outwith the Glasgow fuds.

I don't like getting beaten 3-0 any more than the next hibs fan but sometimes you have to appreciate other clubs achievements.

[fatbloke]

If you look at the league table, only Killie and Dundee have lost more games than us yet only Sellick have won more games than us. So we seem to blow hot and cold quite frequently. Having seen the home games, there's no doubt we'd be struggling without Griffiths' goals and the loss of McPake, Clancy and Deegan have highlighted the threadbare nature of what's at Pat's disposal to plug the gaps.

Today again showed that the league is as tight as a knot in a midges ***** but if we can be thereabouts come March/April, I don't see why Hibs can't challenge for the European spots.

I think we need a bit of perspective though, it was only last season that we were being beaten almost every week and days like this will happen as we try to make progress. I'm sure Pat will have the players focussing on next week now and continuing our decent home record
And the season before that and the season before that and the season before that:greengrin

[Love the Green]

It seems were are not good enough when were are getting pumped and in a relegation fight, but also we are not good enough when we are 4th, and according to some 2nd?

Now i'm the first to tell it when we are poor, but if you cant see the progress we have made, and how thin we are with players, then you are either daft/blind or a yam at the wind up?

What position should we be in, if we have been so poor and lucky?

And just how poor and lucky have the other teams been, or have they all been superb and unlucky?

Wondered how long this would take..anyone who does not toe the "we cannot contradict our team" brigade dislike a post then the poster is a yam...get to bed early tomorrow you will have school on Monday..oh and mind and put your stocking up 24th as you probably believe in santa...re anyone who does not like "keep the faith" I hve followed Hibs for over 50 years and have the right to use it..
"keep the faith" :agree:

[Mr White]

Good response to my question which was a bit on the ignorant side.

However I do think you are being a wee bit unfair to ICT.

They have won 1-0 at Parkhead, 3-2 at Pittodrie and beat us 3-0 in their last three league games to sit second in the league. They are in the semis of the League Cup and thumped Rangers 3-0 in Glasgow.

That is great shooting for any Scottish club outwith the Glasgow fuds.

I don't like getting beaten 3-0 any more than the next hibs fan but sometimes you have to appreciate other clubs achievements.
They're also one season ahead of us in terms of squad development.

[fatbloke]

Wondered how long this would take..anyone who does not toe the "we cannot contradict our team" brigade dislike a post then the poster is a yam...get to bed early tomorrow you will have school on Monday..oh and mind and put your stocking up 24th as you probably believe in santa...re anyone who does not like "keep the faith" I hve followed Hibs for over 50 years and have the right to use it..
"keep the faith" :agree:

:top marks

[Jonnyboy]

Wondered how long this would take..anyone who does not toe the "we cannot contradict our team" brigade dislike a post then the poster is a yam...get to bed early tomorrow you will have school on Monday..oh and mind and put your stocking up 24th as you probably believe in santa...re anyone who does not like "keep the faith" I hve followed Hibs for over 50 years and have the right to use it..
"keep the faith" :agree:

Go on then. Keep it, instead of slagging every player when you get the chance.

[fatbloke]

I expect the East Lothian Mafia - Jonnyboy, Brooster and Scoopyboy tae organise hits on anyone who does not toe the party line:greengrin

[Jonnyboy]

I expect the East Lothian Mafia - Jonnyboy, Brooster and Scoopyboy tae organise hits on anyone who does not toe the party line:greengrin

I'm on watch while those two are out on manoeuvres so lock yer doors :greengrin

[Love the Green]

Go on then. Keep it, instead of slagging every player when you get the chance.

OK jonnyboy tell me who apart from Goalie, mcgivern, cairney and sparky tell me who eles has performed average or above averagein more the 50% of games this seaso..I assume you do attend games?

"KEEP THE FAITH"
:thumbsup::cb

[hibs0666]

Wondered how long this would take..anyone who does not toe the "we cannot contradict our team" brigade dislike a post then the poster is a yam...get to bed early tomorrow you will have school on Monday..oh and mind and put your stocking up 24th as you probably believe in santa...re anyone who does not like "keep the faith" I hve followed Hibs for over 50 years and have the right to use it..
"keep the faith" :agree:

Wondered how long it would take for someone to start ripping the pish at the first opportunity. Like every other season we will win games and lose games especially to good teams like inverness.

[cabbageandribs1875]

what does 'keep the faith' mean anyway :confused: and is 'keep the true faith' the same thing ? is the latter better than the former because it's 'true' ? does this mean the former isn't true i'm lost :(






anyways, have faith

[MSK]

OK jonnyboy tell me who apart from Goalie, mcgivern, cairney and sparky tell me who eles has performed average or above averagein more the 50% of games this seaso..I assume you do attend games?

"KEEP THE FAITH"
:thumbsup::cbWhoa !!!!!!! ...gie him both barrels JC ...:gun: ....:greengrin

[scoopyboy]

OK jonnyboy tell me who apart from Goalie, mcgivern, cairney and sparky tell me who eles has performed average or above averagein more the 50% of games this seaso..I assume you do attend games?
"KEEP THE FAITH"
:thumbsup::cb

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

You've really sold the jerseys now.

[blackpoolhibs]

I expect the East Lothian Mafia - Jonnyboy, Brooster and Scoopyboy tae organise hits on anyone who does not toe the party line:greengrin

You cant say i dont criticise when things are not going well, but in the same breath i do give the team credit when its due.

Today was a poor result, we have had 2 or 3 of them this season. Yet this result seems to have brought out the worst in a few, and is completely ignoring all the good we have done since last season, and ignoring how thin we are for players too.

As someone else said, Rome was not built in a day, but the foundations are in, the damp course too, and quite a few bricks can bee seen by the naked eye.

Sometimes i think folk like to moan for the sake of it, and cant enjoy it when things are going well, and always looking for the next defeat to turn into a crisis?

[Jonnyboy]

OK jonnyboy tell me who apart from Goalie, mcgivern, cairney and sparky tell me who eles has performed average or above averagein more the 50% of games this seaso..I assume you do attend games?
"KEEP THE FAITH"
:thumbsup::cb

That's as funny as it is insulting. I've no intention of offering up any names other than those you mention because it would simply give you a platform to rubbish players in the team you support. You really do need top take a long hard look at yourself in a mirror. Not just in this thread but in countless others you are there slagging off this player or the next. Supporter - I think not

[fatbloke]

OK jonnyboy tell me who apart from Goalie, mcgivern, cairney and sparky tell me who eles has performed average or above averagein more the 50% of games this seaso..I assume you do attend games?



:faf: You obviously do not know the gentleman in question. jonnyboy has seen more hibs matches than you've had... well most things.

[fatbloke]

You cant say i dont criticise when things are not going well, but in the same breath i do give the team credit when its due.

Today was a poor result, we have had 2 or 3 of them this season. Yet this result seems to have brought out the worst in a few, and is completely ignoring all the good we have done since last season, and ignoring how thin we are for players too.

As someone else said, Rome was not built in a day, but the foundations are in, the damp course too, and quite a few bricks can bee seen by the naked eye.

Sometimes i think folk like to moan for the sake of it, and cant enjoy it when things are going well, and always looking for the next defeat to turn into a crisis?

:top marksIt is easier to slag off than to be creative and positive.

[Love the Green]

That's as funny as it is insulting. I've no intention of offering up any names other than those you mention because it would simply give you a platform to rubbish players in the team you support. You really do need top take a long hard look at yourself in a mirror. Not just in this thread but in countless others you are there slagging off this player or the next. Supporter - I think not


Truth hurts

KTF

[Jonnyboy]

Truth hurts

KTF

No idea what KTF means and am wondering if you'll know what GTF means

You really are a sad individual and obvious troll

[Love the Green]

No idea what KTF means and am wondering if you'll know what GTF means

You really are a sad individual and obvious troll

Someone disagrees with your views and does not pander to your bullying tactics on this post and you calll them names and describe them in a nasty fashion.
Sad!!!! yes very as my team just got tanked today by a team who should not be able to compete with them due to the infrastructure and financail resources we have.


KTF:wink:

[Jonnyboy]

Someone disagrees with your views and does not pander to your bullying tactics on this post and you calll them names and describe them in a nasty fashion.
Sad!!!! yes very as my team just got tanked today by a team who should not be able to compete with them due to the infrastructure and financail resources we have.


KTF:wink:

:troll:

[Albanian Hibs]

This keep the faith pish is doing my head in. What does it mean?

[Love the Green]

This keep the faith pish is doing my head in. What does it mean?

Dont read it then.

KTF:aok:

[Love the Green]

:troll:

he he

[hibs4thecup1988]

Pretty sad all the bickering. Jeezo! Last Sunday was great to be a Hibee. We played poor last week and won, played worse today and lost. It happens!

We have such a small squad we are bound to be inconsistent. I have said, and WILL MAINTAIN that this season is about top 6. It is about gradually improving. If Pat can get top 6 this season in my view he has done well. Personally I don't care that there is only 1 Old Firm team, what about the other 9 teams that finished above us last year? We are still in transition in my view. We have an exciting time right now at the club, our rivals are falling apart, no rangers in the league, and lets be honest one of the up and coming managers who seems to love the club.

A defeat is likely to happen every now and then. And to be honest I think a lot of us maybe expected it after last week. Inverness are a dodgy team to play at the best of times remember!!

[trev the hat]

Bad result today, highlights the need for squad additions & releases of the players that need moving on.
Hats off to ICT, they've now beat both weej teams, won @ the sheep & today's result, they deserve big credit.
We must maintain good home form to stay in the mix.
Bring on the well. GGTTH

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

ICT are having a fantastic season and are 2nd on merit. Hibs have no right to beat them, jezzo last season we were 2 games away from being relegated. Credit to ICT and Butcher who i think is an excellent manager. Onwards and upwards for Hibs, big game next week against Motherwell.

[Baldy Foghorn]

ICT are having a fantastic season and are 2nd on merit. Hibs have no right to beat them, jezzo last season we were 2 games away from being relegated. Credit to ICT and Butcher who i think is an excellent manager. Onwards and upwards for Hibs, big game next week against Motherwell.

They played well Today in patches, but we were really woeful..... I suppose I can't complain as our last two 1-0 wins have not been pretty albeit we ground out the results.....We were not at the races Today and deserved nothing from the match....Big test at home to Motherwell who can be hot or cold.....Hoping it gives us a bit of motivation to turn in a better performance.....

[matty_f]

They played well Today in patches, but we were really woeful..... I suppose I can't complain as our last two 1-0 wins have not been pretty albeit we ground out the results.....We were not at the races Today and deserved nothing from the match....Big test at home to Motherwell who can be hot or cold.....Hoping it gives us a bit of motivation to turn in a better performance.....

We have generally responded quite well to defeats this season so hopefully it'll act as a boot up the erse and we don't slip up against Motherwell.

[HFC 0-7]

Yes sorry about that BH.. we have been magic this season midfield bullying and dominating every opposition creating chance afetr chance for our goal machine doyle. Cutting defences apart and looking second only to top CL teams this season.
Time people on here actaully opened their eyes and realised how poor our team is.

"keep the faith.

What exactly are you expecting? The team has improved since last season, both in personnel and in attitude, this has shown through good league positions and managing o win some games when not playing well by digging in. Take the hearts game, we didn't play well and were under spells of pressure, last season we would have crumbled, this season we stood strong and took 3 points off them.

Reality is that hibs had to reduce wage budget but at the same time replace a lot of players. Pat has managed to assemble a good starting 11, beyond that there are some players not up to it and others that are young and will need time. We will struggle in the games when we are missing players, we will even struggle when we have a fully fit squad as some games require good subs.

After last seasons nightmare if someone said to you, 'would you be pleased if you were in or around top. 4 and beaten hearts?', what would you have said?

Having such a good start to the season has actually caused us problems as some of our fans now think we should be winning every game and have forgotten how far we have come in 6 months or so. Open your eyes, look at the bigger picture- we are an improvement on last season, and by quite a bit.

[Baldy Foghorn]

We have generally responded quite well to defeats this season so hopefully it'll act as a boot up the erse and we don't slip up against Motherwell.

I hope so Matty.....

[stoneyburn hibs]

What exactly are you expecting? The team has improved since last season, both in personnel and in attitude, this has shown through good league positions and managing o win some games when not playing well by digging in. Take the hearts game, we didn't play well and were under spells of pressure, last season we would have crumbled, this season we stood strong and took 3 points off them.

Reality is that hibs had to reduce wage budget but at the same time replace a lot of players. Pat has managed to assemble a good starting 11, beyond that there are some players not up to it and others that are young and will need time. We will struggle in the games when we are missing players, we will even struggle when we have a fully fit squad as some games require good subs.

After last seasons nightmare if someone said to you, 'would you be pleased if you were in or around top. 4 and beaten hearts?', what would you have said?

Having such a good start to the season has actually caused us problems as some of our fans now think we should be winning every game and have forgotten how far we have come in 6 months or so. Open your eyes, look at the bigger picture- we are an improvement on last season, and by quite a bit.

Spot On :top marks

[hibs4thecup1988]

What exactly are you expecting? The team has improved since last season, both in personnel and in attitude, this has shown through good league positions and managing o win some games when not playing well by digging in. Take the hearts game, we didn't play well and were under spells of pressure, last season we would have crumbled, this season we stood strong and took 3 points off them.

Reality is that hibs had to reduce wage budget but at the same time replace a lot of players. Pat has managed to assemble a good starting 11, beyond that there are some players not up to it and others that are young and will need time. We will struggle in the games when we are missing players, we will even struggle when we have a fully fit squad as some games require good subs.

After last seasons nightmare if someone said to you, 'would you be pleased if you were in or around top. 4 and beaten hearts?', what would you have said?

Having such a good start to the season has actually caused us problems as some of our fans now think we should be winning every game and have forgotten how far we have come in 6 months or so. Open your eyes, look at the bigger picture- we are an improvement on last season, and by quite a bit.

:top marks:agree:

[matty_f]

What exactly are you expecting? The team has improved since last season, both in personnel and in attitude, this has shown through good league positions and managing o win some games when not playing well by digging in. Take the hearts game, we didn't play well and were under spells of pressure, last season we would have crumbled, this season we stood strong and took 3 points off them.

Reality is that hibs had to reduce wage budget but at the same time replace a lot of players. Pat has managed to assemble a good starting 11, beyond that there are some players not up to it and others that are young and will need time. We will struggle in the games when we are missing players, we will even struggle when we have a fully fit squad as some games require good subs.

After last seasons nightmare if someone said to you, 'would you be pleased if you were in or around top. 4 and beaten hearts?', what would you have said?

Having such a good start to the season has actually caused us problems as some of our fans now think we should be winning every game and have forgotten how far we have come in 6 months or so. Open your eyes, look at the bigger picture- we are an improvement on last season, and by quite a bit.

In a nutshell :top marks


Couldn't agree more.

[18/03/07]

from the official site "Dean Horribine, 19, recently won the Ledingham Commemorative Trophy and the tidy, industrious midfielder from Pilton has been with the club for 10 years."

im sure he spoke to my dad about growing up in pilton with my dad as he comes from there
His family come from Granton,they now stay in pilton

[blackpoolhibs]

What exactly are you expecting? The team has improved since last season, both in personnel and in attitude, this has shown through good league positions and managing o win some games when not playing well by digging in. Take the hearts game, we didn't play well and were under spells of pressure, last season we would have crumbled, this season we stood strong and took 3 points off them.

Reality is that hibs had to reduce wage budget but at the same time replace a lot of players. Pat has managed to assemble a good starting 11, beyond that there are some players not up to it and others that are young and will need time. We will struggle in the games when we are missing players, we will even struggle when we have a fully fit squad as some games require good subs.

After last seasons nightmare if someone said to you, 'would you be pleased if you were in or around top. 4 and beaten hearts?', what would you have said?

Having such a good start to the season has actually caused us problems as some of our fans now think we should be winning every game and have forgotten how far we have come in 6 months or so. Open your eyes, look at the bigger picture- we are an improvement on last season, and by quite a bit.


Spot On :top marks


:top marks:agree:


In a nutshell :top marks


Couldn't agree more.

:wink:

[PapillonVert]

ICT are having a fantastic season and are 2nd on merit. Hibs have no right to beat them, jezzo last season we were 2 games away from being relegated. Credit to ICT and Butcher who i think is an excellent manager. Onwards and upwards for Hibs, big game next week against Motherwell.

I agree with this. Butcher has had more time to get a settled squad. Fenlon is still in the rebuilding phase and don't forget the incredibly low base that he had to start from.

Let's be honest, if anyone told us this time last year we would be in the mix for the top three or four never mind the top two, we would not have believed it and in fact would have grabbed it with both hands.

We are a work in progress. That means we are not perfect. That means we will have bad days. That means we will often feel frustrated that things are not progressing as fast as we would like. Let's be thankful we are not where we were last year and hope that PF can keep the improvement going. Doesn't mean we will win every week and I am sure we will have setbacks but we are already well ahead of where we were at the same time last year.

You don't go from rank rotten to great that quickly - it usually takes time and patience.

I only hope we can get McPake back soon and keep Leigh and others so that we can get some continuity and consistency.

[Jonnyboy]

What exactly are you expecting? The team has improved since last season, both in personnel and in attitude, this has shown through good league positions and managing o win some games when not playing well by digging in. Take the hearts game, we didn't play well and were under spells of pressure, last season we would have crumbled, this season we stood strong and took 3 points off them.

Reality is that hibs had to reduce wage budget but at the same time replace a lot of players. Pat has managed to assemble a good starting 11, beyond that there are some players not up to it and others that are young and will need time. We will struggle in the games when we are missing players, we will even struggle when we have a fully fit squad as some games require good subs.

After last seasons nightmare if someone said to you, 'would you be pleased if you were in or around top. 4 and beaten hearts?', what would you have said?

Having such a good start to the season has actually caused us problems as some of our fans now think we should be winning every game and have forgotten how far we have come in 6 months or so. Open your eyes, look at the bigger picture- we are an improvement on last season, and by quite a bit.

Spot on. Now that's being realistic and supporting your team :wink:

[matty_f]

:wink:
:tee hee: we all knew what he meant!!


and gtf!

[erskine-hibby]

A mere hiccup. Losing to THE form team in Scotland is no disgrace, though disappointing.
We will be back next week.:aok:

[Jonnyboy]

A mere hiccup. Losing to THE form team in Scotland is no disgrace, though disappointing.
We will be back next week.:aok:

And top scoring team too (even before they pumped us!) :greengrin

[blackpoolhibs]

:tee hee: We all knew what he meant!!


And gtf!

ktf.

[Jonnyboy]

ktf.

:faf: :top marks

[matty_f]

ktf.
:faf:

[Jonnyboy]

ktf.


:faf:

Bullies :tsk tsk::tee hee:

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

The last few posts contain some very weli put points and observations, but I have a gripe, and it is this. In all the years, that I have followed our team, home and away ahd abroad, never once have I met a Hibby that expects us to win every game. John Hughes used to make reference to this section of our support as well. So without prejudice, I would like all of these fellow Hibees to come forward and tell us why they hold this opinion. We should make sure that we don't confuse " expect to win", with " want to win".

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

They played well Today in patches, but we were really woeful..... I suppose I can't complain as our last two 1-0 wins have not been pretty albeit we ground out the results.....We were not at the races Today and deserved nothing from the match....Big test at home to Motherwell who can be hot or cold.....Hoping it gives us a bit of motivation to turn in a better performance.....

Well have a midweek Cup game, so hopefully that'll take a bit out of them. The quicker we get McPake,Clancy and Deegan back the better.

[fatbloke]

What exactly are you expecting? The team has improved since last season, both in personnel and in attitude, this has shown through good league positions and managing o win some games when not playing well by digging in. Take the hearts game, we didn't play well and were under spells of pressure, last season we would have crumbled, this season we stood strong and took 3 points off them.

Reality is that hibs had to reduce wage budget but at the same time replace a lot of players. Pat has managed to assemble a good starting 11, beyond that there are some players not up to it and others that are young and will need time. We will struggle in the games when we are missing players, we will even struggle when we have a fully fit squad as some games require good subs.

After last seasons nightmare if someone said to you, 'would you be pleased if you were in or around top. 4 and beaten hearts?', what would you have said?

Having such a good start to the season has actually caused us problems as some of our fans now think we should be winning every game and have forgotten how far we have come in 6 months or so. Open your eyes, look at the bigger picture- we are an improvement on last season, and by quite a bit.

How dare you come on here spouting good sense and a first class post. Let the trolls etc have their say:greengrin. BTW I expect hibs to win every match, even against wee teams like Barcelona.

[leggeto]

thought we might have had a chance up that bogieness, any team finds it hard there,they guys are used to playin at -20 i suppose:flag:

[Northernhibee]

Yes sorry about that BH.. we have been magic this season midfield bullying and dominating every opposition creating chance afetr chance for our goal machine doyle. Cutting defences apart and looking second only to top CL teams this season.
Time people on here actaully opened their eyes and realised how poor our team is.

"keep the faith.

Yes, let's sack Fenlon, sack the team, sack Petrie, sack the boy who served me a pie at HT at ER last weekend, hire Fenlon so we can sack him again, sack the new stadium announcer justs in case then hold a testimonial for Valdas Trakys so we can get Pat to manage the "legends" team and sack him at half time.

Was speaking to a former LOI player tonight who only had good things to say about PF, very complimentary. He knows a lot more than you do about football so I know who I trust. If you do "Love the green", start showing it.

"Stop spouting pish"

[Hainan Hibs]

I think we need to get rid of the "fully expected a defeat today:thumbsup:" "how dare people think we have the right to get ANYTHING from Caley:boo hoo:" posts. Cringeworthy nonsense that is a part of the culture of the recent past which needs fully booted out of the club and the support.

Bad day at the office which we will have here and there through the season considering where we have come from, but the defeatist pish has to be dropped.

[Golden Bear]

The attendance at yesterday's game was a sparse 3,422.

To me that highlights how good a Manager Terry Butcher is and how you don't need vast resources to assemble a good team that can play attractive, winning football.

[lucky]

Our away form has been awful. I did hope we would pick up at least a point up there. Terry Butcher has built a side on a fraction of the money available to PF. He has also brought in a few loan signings from top EPL sides. We have no strength in depth in the squad.We badly miss McPake and Deegan, they are our leaders on the pitch. Mcgirven has been excellent but has been found wanting at Dundee away and nowICT. I appreciate we are making progress but the amount of goals we are losing away from home is frightening

[Baldy Foghorn]

Our away form has been awful. I did hope we would pick up at least a point up there. Terry Butcher has built a side on a fraction of the money available to PF. He has also brought in a few loan signings from top EPL sides. We have no strength in depth in the squad.We badly miss McPake and Deegan, they are our leaders on the pitch. Mcgirven has been excellent but has been found wanting at Dundee away and nowICT. I appreciate we are making progress but the amount of goals we are losing away from home is frightening

We miss Clancy badly too IMO, much better positionally than Maybury, and gives us a better option as an attacking full back.....

[blackpoolhibs]

We miss Clancy badly too IMO, much better positionally than Maybury, and gives us a better option as an attacking full back.....

I agree, we also miss Mcpake as that would release McGivern to play left back. That would give us two full backs who can defend but give us MUCH better options going forward than their replacements.

That then helps the players in front of them with support, something Maybury and Stevenson struggle with, as both rarely get forward over the half way line.

Along with Deegan getting those 3 players back gives us height strength and leadership in defence, and just makes us a much better team allround.

[stanton10]

Yes, let's sack Fenlon, sack the team, sack Petrie, sack the boy who served me a pie at HT at ER last weekend, hire Fenlon so we can sack him again, sack the new stadium announcer justs in case then hold a testimonial for Valdas Trakys so we can get Pat to manage the "legends" team and sack him at half time.

Was speaking to a former LOI player tonight who only had good things to say about PF, very complimentary. He knows a lot more than you do about football so I know who I trust. If you do "Love the green", start showing it.

"Stop spouting pish"

The mans opinion ,you must respect or are you always right,well said Love the green.

[hfc rd]

What exactly are you expecting? The team has improved since last season, both in personnel and in attitude, this has shown through good league positions and managing o win some games when not playing well by digging in. Take the hearts game, we didn't play well and were under spells of pressure, last season we would have crumbled, this season we stood strong and took 3 points off them.

Reality is that hibs had to reduce wage budget but at the same time replace a lot of players. Pat has managed to assemble a good starting 11, beyond that there are some players not up to it and others that are young and will need time. We will struggle in the games when we are missing players, we will even struggle when we have a fully fit squad as some games require good subs.

After last seasons nightmare if someone said to you, 'would you be pleased if you were in or around top. 4 and beaten hearts?', what would you have said?

Having such a good start to the season has actually caused us problems as some of our fans now think we should be winning every game and have forgotten how far we have come in 6 months or so. Open your eyes, look at the bigger picture- we are an improvement on last season, and by quite a bit.


Top post.

[Woody70x2]

What exactly are you expecting? The team has improved since last season, both in personnel and in attitude, this has shown through good league positions and managing o win some games when not playing well by digging in. Take the hearts game, we didn't play well and were under spells of pressure, last season we would have crumbled, this season we stood strong and took 3 points off them.

Reality is that hibs had to reduce wage budget but at the same time replace a lot of players. Pat has managed to assemble a good starting 11, beyond that there are some players not up to it and others that are young and will need time. We will struggle in the games when we are missing players, we will even struggle when we have a fully fit squad as some games require good subs.

After last seasons nightmare if someone said to you, 'would you be pleased if you were in or around top. 4 and beaten hearts?', what would you have said?

Having such a good start to the season has actually caused us problems as some of our fans now think we should be winning every game and have forgotten how far we have come in 6 months or so. Open your eyes, look at the bigger picture- we are an improvement on last season, and by quite a bit.

When did we take 3 points off Hearts? Must have missed that one.

[Baldy Foghorn]

When did we take 3 points off Hearts? Must have missed that one.

New rule by SFA, if you beat a team in the Cup who are in the same division as you, you automatically get an additional 3 points....

[Northernhibee]

The mans opinion ,you must respect or are you always right,well said Love the green.

Nah, I'm always right. :wink:

"Stop spouting pish"

[down-the-slope]

Should maybe read the whole thread. :agree:


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[HFC 0-7]

When did we take 3 points off Hearts? Must have missed that one.
Yes yes, already been pointed out by Blackpool thanks. You knew what I meant!

[SHODAN]

When did we take 3 points off Hearts? Must have missed that one.

According to Andrew Driver (last time they beat us in the cup at ER) winning a cup game gives you three points..

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Just back from a wee trip down to London for a few days, so, never spent much time on here. Its good to see a Happy Clapper/Doom & Gloom face-off thread again, I find them entertaining in a nonsense sort of way.