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Miguel
29-11-2012, 11:37 PM
Cheating by officials has been endemic in Scottish football for years.
In the late 80s, an Aberdeen-supporting academic calculated huge odds of the Old Firm not being drawn together in a Scottish Cup tie since iirc 1969. The year after his study, they were drawn together and, indeed, we're also paired a few times subsequently.
Sir Alex Ferguson refers to officials being biased in favour of Rangers, down to quite petty levels, in his autobiography.
There was widespread malpractice in selection of the national team - Gordon Smith suffered in particular, but others too, including the East Fife striker who scored hattrick on his debut and was never selected again.
The lack of proper regulation also allows people like Craig Thomson to carry their personal prejudices onto the field. It's corrupt to the core, as most systems are.
It's to do with power and who wields it.

MWHIBBIES
29-11-2012, 11:48 PM
I agree, lets storm Hampden, justice has to be done, off with their heads.

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Miguel
29-11-2012, 11:55 PM
I agree, lets storm Hampden, justice has to be done, off with their heads.

http://torwars.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/angry-mob.jpeg
It does. If Thomson's decisions had been made in an OF cup final, they'd still be debating them in the media now. Because it was Hibs v Hearts, well who gives a ****?

Killiehibbie
30-11-2012, 07:31 AM
Cheating by officials has been endemic in Scottish football for years.
In the late 80s, an Aberdeen-supporting academic calculated huge odds of the Old Firm not being drawn together in a Scottish Cup tie since iirc 1969. The year after his study, they were drawn together and, indeed, we're also paired a few times subsequently.
Sir Alex Ferguson refers to officials being biased in favour of Rangers, down to quite petty levels, in his autobiography.
There was widespread malpractice in selection of the national team - Gordon Smith suffered in particular, but others too, including the East Fife striker who scored hattrick on his debut and was never selected again.
The lack of proper regulation also allows people like Craig Thomson to carry their personal prejudices onto the field. It's corrupt to the core, as most systems are.
It's to do with power and who wields it.
It must be huge odds on the next spin of a coin is going to tails when the previous 12 have been heads?

EuanH78
30-11-2012, 07:40 AM
It must be huge odds on the next spin of a coin is going to tails when the previous 12 have been heads?

Actually its not, the next spin of the coin the odds of it being heads or tails are always the same 50/50. Even after an extended run of heads - the odds of tails coming up are still no greater than 50%

Jack
30-11-2012, 08:00 AM
Actually its not, the next spin of the coin the odds of it being heads or tails are always the same 50/50. Even after an extended run of heads - the odds of tails coming up are still no greater than 50%

Surely less than 50/50?

Afterall there is the possibility the coin will land on its edge, particularly in soft ground. And while its even more unlikely an eagle could swoop down and take the coin in mid air while mistaking it for a small rodent - the zero on the roulette wheel sort of thing.

Peevemor
30-11-2012, 08:03 AM
Surely less than 50/50?

Afterall there is the possibility the coin will land on its edge, particularly in soft ground. And while its even more unlikely an eagle could swoop down and take the coin in mid air while mistaking it for a small rodent - the zero on the roulette wheel sort of thing.

... or if Vlad was there he would probably catch it before it hit the deck and quickly deposit it in some offshore account. :agree:

(all for the good of HMFC of course)

NewHibby
30-11-2012, 08:14 AM
Cheating by officials has been endemic in Scottish football for years.
In the late 80s, an Aberdeen-supporting academic calculated huge odds of the Old Firm not being drawn together in a Scottish Cup tie since iirc 1969. The year after his study, they were drawn together and, indeed, we're also paired a few times subsequently.
Sir Alex Ferguson refers to officials being biased in favour of Rangers, down to quite petty levels, in his autobiography.
There was widespread malpractice in selection of the national team - Gordon Smith suffered in particular, but others too, including the East Fife striker who scored hattrick on his debut and was never selected again.
The lack of proper regulation also allows people like Craig Thomson to carry their personal prejudices onto the field. It's corrupt to the core, as most systems are.
It's to do with power and who wields it.
The problem is our directors accept this institutional bigotry! Everyone is so PC and squeaky clean at ER we have become a dumbed down club, I mean we have an announcer who slips in a few bars of a humorous song and is sacked on the back of it.
I hope Petrie was cringing at the real fans in Perth the other night when we stood shoulder to shoulder and let Thomson know what we thought of him. Take note Rod and grow a set!!!!!

CentreLine
30-11-2012, 08:56 AM
The problem is our directors accept this institutional bigotry! Everyone is so PC and squeaky clean at ER we have become a dumbed down club, I mean we have an announcer who slips in a few bars of a humorous song and is sacked on the back of it.
I hope Petrie was cringing at the real fans in Perth the other night when we stood shoulder to shoulder and let Thomson know what we thought of him. Take note Rod and grow a set!!!!!

Rod has a set for sure and he is BTG after every home game, win, lose or draw, making himself available to supporters. The club has never been shy about making complaints, through official chanels, about matters affecting Hibs and that specifically included Thomson before the cup final. The big difference is that our club does not sing about it to the press like e.g. Kenny Shiels has just this morning. He looks and sounds classless, our club does not.

EuanH78
30-11-2012, 10:42 AM
Surely less than 50/50?

Afterall there is the possibility the coin will land on its edge, particularly in soft ground. And while its even more unlikely an eagle could swoop down and take the coin in mid air while mistaking it for a small rodent - the zero on the roulette wheel sort of thing.

I was genuinely wondering whether to include the side of the coin into what I was saying but felt keeping the concept simple was for the best.

I should have known better on this site though :greengrin

Peevemor
30-11-2012, 10:49 AM
Rod has a set for sure and he is BTG after every home game, win, lose or draw, making himself available to supporters. The club has never been shy about making complaints, through official chanels, about matters affecting Hibs and that specifically included Thomson before the cup final. The big difference is that our club does not sing about it to the press like e.g. Kenny Shiels has just this morning. He looks and sounds classless, our club does not.

:agree:

Killiehibbie
30-11-2012, 12:06 PM
Actually its not, the next spin of the coin the odds of it being heads or tails are always the same 50/50. Even after an extended run of heads - the odds of tails coming up are still no greater than 50%
Of course it is, no chance of it landing on its edge if you flatten it between your hand and a table. To say the chances of 2 teams getting drawn together in the cup are huge odds on and must be cheating when they don't in 20 years is wrong.

Killiehibbie
30-11-2012, 12:10 PM
Surely less than 50/50?

Afterall there is the possibility the coin will land on its edge, particularly in soft ground. And while its even more unlikely an eagle could swoop down and take the coin in mid air while mistaking it for a small rodent - the zero on the roulette wheel sort of thing.
A bit less than a 2.7% chance of an eagle swooping to steal your pound:greengrin

Viva_Palmeiras
30-11-2012, 12:14 PM
What we need is an economist like the award winning Levitt who wrote Freakonomics one chapter was on match fixing in sumo wrestling.

Oscar T Grouch
30-11-2012, 12:14 PM
A bit less than a 2.7% chance of an eagle swooping to steal your pound:greengrin

An eagle would probably ignore a tossed coin, but a magpie on the other hand...:wink:

CropleyWasGod
30-11-2012, 12:17 PM
sniff sniff?

CropleyWasGod
30-11-2012, 12:33 PM
If a Yam cries out in the night, and there's no-one around, is there actually a sound?

:cb

Kato
30-11-2012, 12:37 PM
If a Yam cries out in the night, and there's no-one around, is there actually a sound?

:cb

No but there is a smell.

Hibercelona
30-11-2012, 12:38 PM
Surely less than 50/50?

Afterall there is the possibility the coin will land on its edge, particularly in soft ground. And while its even more unlikely an eagle could swoop down and take the coin in mid air while mistaking it for a small rodent - the zero on the roulette wheel sort of thing.

The possibility of Rodders coming out of nowhere and swooping it before it touches the ground makes the odds of the coin landing on heads or tales very short indeed. :greengrin

Eyrie
30-11-2012, 12:48 PM
What we need is an economist like the award winning Levitt who wrote Freakonomics one chapter was on match fixing in sumo wrestling.

So that's what happened to Nade :nade:

givescotlandfreedom
30-11-2012, 01:21 PM
Rod has a set for sure and he is BTG after every home game, win, lose or draw, making himself available to supporters. The club has never been shy about making complaints, through official chanels, about matters affecting Hibs and that specifically included Thomson before the cup final. The big difference is that our club does not sing about it to the press like e.g. Kenny Shiels has just this morning. He looks and sounds classless, our club does not.

So the SFA not only keep Thomson in his place for the cup final but after his disgraceful performance stick another two fingers up at us by giving him out first game after it. That's what they think of us.