Star Wars

[HibeeHendo]

Disney have bought over Lucasarts and have announced three more movies! Words can't describe my excitement right now!

[steakbake]

Disney have bought over Lucasarts and have announced three more movies! Words can't describe my excitement right now!

Words can't describe my despair. Luckily, you dont have to go to the cinema for entertainment anymore because finally there's something good going on down ER.

[Glory Lurker]

:panic::panic:

This must be stopped! It's enough trying to pretend Episodes 1-3 don't exist without them chucking more guff out. Mind, surely Disney couldn't be as bad as Lucas?

Jar Jar Binks, Ewan McGregor's Obi Wan, Anakin Skywalker, "Nooooooooooooooo" Vader, in fact every character in Eps 1-3 apart from Chewie (aye, CGI Yoda, I'm not excepting you) are out-and-out space yams.

[Beefster]

Words can't describe my despair.

That's my initial reaction too. Nothing to do with 'enhancing the Star Wars universe' and everything about making a guaranteed new income stream. Movie studios are all about the franchises these days.

[Pretty Boy]

Please God no.

The original movies are fantastically good, I can rewatch them all the time and still love them. Episodes 1-3 I have never rewatched since first seeing them, the thought of another 3 in that vein is too much.

[easty]

I think I'll reserve judgement until I actually see it. Why can't there be more good Star Wars movies? The first Batman was good, then they made a couple of crap ones, then many years later they made the best Batman films yet. James Bond is still going strong (possibly stronger than ever even).

[HibeeHendo]

If Disney make sure it's an interesting script and hire a solid director then I don't see why they couldn't make a great film. Look what they did with the superhero films after they bought over Marvel, all are pretty much critically acclaimed.

I actually didn't mind the last of the prequels but nothing will ever come close to the original trilogy.

Star Wars is a never ending cash cow so it makes complete business sense.

[deeks01]

Unsure how to feel about this...

On the one hand if they can make anything even halfway close to being as good as the original trilogy then yes yes yes yes yes! On t'other hand Star Wars still has great appeal and continues to do so for new generations so a new film or two would , as stated , be class IF its decent. The prequels weren't as bad as people make out , the first one in particular IMO was ripped to shreds because it was compared with the original trilogy , take away that comparison and it was decent. The other 2 were poor but not ridiculously so as some made out. If they keep going the same way with this new film it could ruin it for future generations and that would be a huge shame.

[lyonhibs]

Flogging a deid horse here IMO. Great originals, mediocre follow-ups. Christ knows what Disney will do to the films.

[Future17]

Flogging a deid horse here IMO. Great originals, mediocre follow-ups. Christ knows what Disney will do to the films.

Not sure what you're basing that on? :confused: The original SW films made millions and the prequels continued that.

I'm probably in an extreme minority as a massive sci-fi fan who doesn't like Star Wars, but I'm certain a company with Disney will only have made this move as they have big plans for the franchise. Strangely, they've got a fair bit of experience in making films and they'll know the importance of a great script, director etc.

[hibsbollah]

:panic::panic:

This must be stopped! It's enough trying to pretend Episodes 1-3 don't exist without them chucking more guff out. Mind, surely Disney couldn't be as bad as Lucas?

Jar Jar Binks, Ewan McGregor's Obi Wan, Anakin Skywalker, "Nooooooooooooooo" Vader, in fact every character in Eps 1-3 apart from Chewie (aye, CGI Yoda, I'm not excepting you) are out-and-out space yams.

By contrast, Boba fett is by far the coolest Star Wars character. You can just tell hes a hibby :agree:

[southfieldhibby]

I'd chuck Return of The Jedi in with the last three.Just not good enough and ewoks can bolt.

Star Wars was very good, but Empire Strikes Back was outstanding.

[Wembley67]

I'd chuck Return of The Jedi in with the last three.Just not good enough and ewoks can bolt.

Star Wars was very good, but Empire Strikes Back was outstanding.

GTF, ewoks are barry.

Prick.

:greengrin

[deeks01]

I'd chuck Return of The Jedi in with the last three.Just not good enough and ewoks can bolt.

Star Wars was very good, but Empire Strikes Back was outstanding.

You're just gutted because you can't get a pet ewok.

[southfieldhibby]

GTF, ewoks are barry.

Prick.

:greengrin


You're just gutted because you can't get a pet ewok.

Lads who like ewoks also like my little pony,barbie and painting their nails.

[hibsbollah]

You're just gutted because you can't get a pet ewok.

Aye you can. Doggone Purrfect on Leith Walk. Juvenile ewok with innoculations £35.

[Wembley67]

Lads who like ewoks also like my little pony,barbie and painting their nails.

And lads that like ewoks are also the ones that got to see the local sexy star war girls planet endor at an early age as they found the ewok interest endearing :na na:

[HibsMax]

If they're as good as Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi then OK. Otherwise, No Thanks.

[deeks01]

Lads who like ewoks also like my little pony,barbie and painting their nails.

Now you're being ridiculous. First your anti ewok statement and now you're insinuating there is something wrong with lads who paint their nails and collect my little ponies? You're a strange man. ;)


Aye you can. Doggone Purrfect on Leith Walk. Juvenile ewok with innoculations £35.

Will you get me one for Christmas uncle hibsbollah?

[hibsbollah]

Now you're being ridiculous. First your anti ewok statement and now you're insinuating there is something wrong with lads who paint their nails and collect my little ponies? You're a strange man. ;)



Will you get me one for Christmas uncle hibsbollah?

You need to have a word with :santa

[Geo_1875]

Great news. About time Captain Kirk and Spock were back on the big screen.

[Sylar]

Disney did wonders for Marvel when they took over, to the point where they revived and made cool again the superhero. The Avengers, Captain America, Iron Man (both I and II), Thor...all part of a fantastic rebirthing of the superhero genre and all lauded by critics for being revolutionary films. Also, look at what Christopher Nolan did for Batman! The previous efforts are all but forgettable (though Nicholson as The Joker deserved it's accolades), after a quite brilliant original set of movies. The new trilogy is perhaps one of the most critically acclaimed benchmarks of modern cinema!

Spiderman is similar. Perhaps one of the most loved comic heroes of all time was initially translated into film by Sam Raimi and although not terrible, it's far from critically acclaimed. However, Marc Webb's newer version, despite the previous flops, is hailed as the start of a potentially brilliant revival to the arc.

Disney are suitably experienced in film-making and they know what works, what fails and what to avoid (John Carter is unfortunately a very recent example where they dropped the ball right enough...). I'm far from a Star Wars fan - I've watched all 6 and although I can see their revolutionary value, as films, they're far from the bastions of enlightenment that the more puritan SW fans would have you believe. They form part of a larger pious group of folks who would argue that "Classics shouldn't be messed with" and I couldn't disagree more. Stories are there to be developed, adapted and reimagined. Consider the American author, Gregory McGuire - he's written many novels which reappropriate existing myths (Wizard of Oz, Snow White) and written contemporary pieces of fiction which force a complete reinterpretation of the original sources - just read something like Wicked or Out of Oz and then consider the Wonderful Wizard of Oz original - complete genius. There's no reason something similar can't be achieved with Star Wars here and bring the classic films/mythology to a whole new generation, much like the most recent Star Trek reboot, which opened a whole new generation up to the stories, characters and original series'.

[deeks01]

You need to have a word with :santa

I was afraid of that , I think I'm still on the naughty list from when I gave Rudolf that red nose.

[Tyler Durden]

Disney did wonders for Marvel when they took over, to the point where they revived and made cool again the superhero. The Avengers, Captain America, Iron Man (both I and II), Thor...all part of a fantastic rebirthing of the superhero genre and all lauded by critics for being revolutionary films. Also, look at what Christopher Nolan did for Batman! The previous efforts are all but forgettable (though Nicholson as The Joker deserved it's accolades), after a quite brilliant original set of movies. The new trilogy is perhaps one of the most critically acclaimed benchmarks of modern cinema!

Spiderman is similar. Perhaps one of the most loved comic heroes of all time was initially translated into film by Sam Raimi and although not terrible, it's far from critically acclaimed. However, Marc Webb's newer version, despite the previous flops, is hailed as the start of a potentially brilliant revival to the arc.

Disney are suitably experienced in film-making and they know what works, what fails and what to avoid (John Carter is unfortunately a very recent example where they dropped the ball right enough...). I'm far from a Star Wars fan - I've watched all 6 and although I can see their revolutionary value, as films, they're far from the bastions of enlightenment that the more puritan SW fans would have you believe. They form part of a larger pious group of folks who would argue that "Classics shouldn't be messed with" and I couldn't disagree more. Stories are there to be developed, adapted and reimagined. Consider the American author, Gregory McGuire - he's written many novels which reappropriate existing myths (Wizard of Oz, Snow White) and written contemporary pieces of fiction which force a complete reinterpretation of the original sources - just read something like Wicked or Out of Oz and then consider the Wonderful Wizard of Oz original - complete genius. There's no reason something similar can't be achieved with Star Wars here and bring the classic films/mythology to a whole new generation, much like the most recent Star Trek reboot, which opened a whole new generation up to the stories, characters and original series'.

Re Disneys impact on Marvel, they've not been responsible for the success of the Avenger movies, they just had the foresight to buy Marvel at the right time. Iron Man was released prior to the purchase and the Marvel "Phase 1" movies were planned out already. Also not sure which critics lauded the films as revolutionary? They were generally regarded as solid origin movies - often criticised for merely being teasers for the main event........ The Avengers. (The latest Spider-Man film wasn't a huge critical success either btw, owing to various fresh ideas that were obviously cut late in the process).

Personally I'm a big fan and Marvel deserve huge credit for the success of the Avengers. Where Disney deserve praise IMHO, is leaving Marvel to get on with it. They made some bold choices in directors in Branagh and Whedon with seemingly no Disney interference.

Disney also gave the director of John Carter total creative control aßwell as a ridiculous budget. The failure of the film was widely attributed to poor marketing or it basically being doomed from the outset due to its lack of a brand. I actually though the end product was brilliant.

Bringing me onto Star Wars. Clearly Disney want another cash cow. But that doesn't mean the films can't be great. With Lucas out the picture they can hand it over to someone with their own ideas. Imagine Guillermo Del Toro's Star Wars or David Fincher - the possibilities are endless! The films to date have barely scratched the surface of the Star Wars universe. If another new trilogy is disappointing, that will in no way spoil the originals for me. Bring it on!

[Jones28]

Whats the deal with all the hatred of the newer star wars films? Enjoyed all 6 and hopefully Disney will enhance and continue them :agree:

[HibsMax]

Whats the deal with all the hatred of the newer star wars films? Enjoyed all 6 and hopefully Disney will enhance and continue them :agree:

The deal, in my case, is that I found the original three very enjoyable but I found the next three to be crap. I will give them another viewing though.

[Jones28]

The deal, in my case, is that I found the original three very enjoyable but I found the next three to be crap. I will give them another viewing though.

Care to expand on "crap" max? :greengrin:

[HibsMax]

Care to expand on "crap" max? :greengrin:

To be honest, it's probably more about me being older than the movies being crap per se. I'm not a huge fan of CGI but appreciate its place in the industry.

It's also to do with the way the story is laid out, and that hasn't changed since the first three movies came out (so how can I complain now?). I don't have any references but I believe it was always the plan to do
4, 5, 6
1, 2, 3
7, 8, 9

in that order. Han Solo was in 4, 5 and 6 but not in 1, 2, 3 but I can't blame the film makers for that if Han Solo simply wasn't in the picture at that time.

There isn't really anything I can put my finger on to be honest. I just "know" that I enjoyed watching the original three and found myself not enjoying the next (previous :dizzy:) as much.

As I said above, I will give them another viewing and see if I change my mind. I am faaaaar from a Star Wars nerd. I don't know the stories / history inside and out so it's very possible (likely in fact) that the arguments I gave above have no basis in reality.

EDIT : maybe I just have a crush on Harrison Ford?

[Jones28]

To be honest, it's probably more about me being older than the movies being crap per se. I'm not a huge fan of CGI but appreciate its place in the industry.

It's also to do with the way the story is laid out, and that hasn't changed since the first three movies came out (so how can I complain now?). I don't have any references but I believe it was always the plan to do
4, 5, 6
1, 2, 3
7, 8, 9

in that order. Han Solo was in 4, 5 and 6 but not in 1, 2, 3 but I can't blame the film makers for that if Han Solo simply wasn't in the picture at that time.

There isn't really anything I can put my finger on to be honest. I just "know" that I enjoyed watching the original three and found myself not enjoying the next (previous :dizzy:) as much.

As I said above, I will give them another viewing and see if I change my mind. I am faaaaar from a Star Wars nerd. I don't know the stories / history inside and out so it's very possible (likely in fact) that the arguments I gave above have no basis in reality.

EDIT : maybe I just have a crush on Harrison Ford?

Fair enough! Each to their own and all that.

Although the whole crush on harrison ford thing is the most credible part :greengrin:

[GhostofBolivar]

Care to expand on "crap" max? :greengrin:

All of the really bad parts of the original trilogy, but with the many redeeming features replaced with racist stereotypes and tax disputes. Even Christopher Lee being awesome couldn't save them.

Still, they weren't as bad as Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

[hibsbollah]

All of the really bad parts of the original trilogy, but with the many redeeming features replaced with racist stereotypes and tax disputes. Even Christopher Lee being awesome couldn't save them.

Still, they weren't as bad as Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

I didnt think The Crystal Skull was as bad as it was reputed to be.

Back to Star Wars, looks like the original gang could be back
http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/sLGdSpv_wNKzrrz3VgWirMw/view.m?id=15&gid=film/2012/nov/06/harrison-ford-star-wars-episode-7&cat=film

[GhostofBolivar]

I didnt think The Crystal Skull was as bad as it was reputed to be.

Back to Star Wars, looks like the original gang could be back
http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/sLGdSpv_wNKzrrz3VgWirMw/view.m?id=15&gid=film/2012/nov/06/harrison-ford-star-wars-episode-7&cat=film

Crystal Skull is abominably bad. Full of awful CGI, terrible acting and a plot that makes no sense - just like the Star Wars prequels.

The point, of course, is that Crystal Skull is worse because after the disaster of The Phantom Menace, we should have known better than to trust Lucas again.

[Beefster]

Crystal Skull is abominably bad. Full of awful CGI, terrible acting and a plot that makes no sense - just like the Star Wars prequels.

The point, of course, is that Crystal Skull is worse because after the disaster of The Phantom Menace, we should have known better than to trust Lucas again.

True. Lucas hasn't written (or directed) a decent movie since 1984.

[euansdad]

Never have watched a star wars film te whole way through. Just a bit to far fetched for my liking. I enjoy realistic films such as lord of the rings or the hobbit.......

[hibsbollah]

Never have watched a star wars film te whole way through. Just a bit to far fetched for my liking. I enjoy realistic films such as lord of the rings or the hobbit.......

What do you mean 'realistic' :dunno: Lord of the Rings is historical fact.

[Mon Dieu4]

What do you mean 'realistic' :dunno: Lord of the Rings is historical fact.

haha reminds me if my pal at the cinema, bit where one of the characters slides down stairs on a shield like a skateboard, he turns to me and says that couldn't happen, WTF you are watching a film about wizards and elves you daft bassa haha

[HibsMax]

haha reminds me if my pal at the cinema, bit where one of the characters slides down stairs on a shield like a skateboard, he turns to me and says that couldn't happen, WTF you are watching a film about wizards and elves you daft bassa haha
What's worse is that he's wrong, it could happen. Probably.

[euansdad]

In all seriousness Star Wars has never appealed to me. Just can't be bothered to try get into it. Is it right though that it is the most successful film franchise of all time?

[Hibby70]

haha reminds me if my pal at the cinema, bit where one of the characters slides down stairs on a shield like a skateboard, he turns to me and says that couldn't happen, WTF you are watching a film about wizards and elves you daft bassa haha

That reminds me of when I first saw The Matrix and just at the bit when they run along the wall followed by a kind of backflip the lady behind me said "as if".