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Keith_M
03-10-2012, 06:56 PM
Just watching that game on TV. It just brings home to me the real difference between German and British football.

The Germans were almost to a man in their seats (with or without beach towels) at least half an hour before kick off, which is quite normal for home games as well, at least for the 'fans' sections. The Citeh supporters seem to be still arriving, though it may just be a sh*tey home support. Though there was hardly anyone in their areas about 5 minutes before the game.

The Germans have been singng since I switched the game on, while I've so far heard two quiet chants of 'Citeh'. The stewards also seem to be having a hard time explaining to the Germans that they're not supposed to be standing up, or having any fun that could be deemed against safety standards. Good luck to them :greengrin

sbell1875
03-10-2012, 06:59 PM
Just watching that game on TV. It just brings home to me the real difference between German and British football.

The Germans were almost to a man in their seats (with or without beach towels) at least half an hour before kick off, which is quite normal for home games as well, at least for the 'fans' sections. The Citeh supporters seem to be still arriving, though it may just be a sh*tey home support. Though there was hardly anyone in their areas about 5 minutes before the game.

The Germans have been singng since I switched the game on, while I've so far heard two quiet chants of 'Citeh'. The stewards also seem to be having a hard time explaining to the Germans that they're not supposed to be standing up, or having any fun that could be deemed against safety standards. Good luck to them :greengrin

The City fans did the same when they were Chelsea fans.

Keith_M
03-10-2012, 07:00 PM
The City fans did the same when they were Chelsea fans.

:greengrin

HH81
03-10-2012, 07:03 PM
Just think city fans make the most noice in the prem too.

SteveHFC
03-10-2012, 07:06 PM
Empty Seats. Is the Champions League not good enough for City now?

DC_Hibs
03-10-2012, 07:06 PM
Tune into ZDF for the return leg when there's thousands of City fans over there on a jolly with no work the next day and you might find there's not such a difference after all - in the away supports anyway.

I'd agree that there's a big difference between the atmosphere created by home fans in the two countries......in some cases. "Wo ist denn die gelbe Wand ihr wichser"

Wotherspiniesta
03-10-2012, 07:06 PM
Just think city fans make the most noice in the prem too.

Sunderland fans make the most noise.

HH81
03-10-2012, 07:08 PM
Sunderland fans make the most noise.

Not convinced having been to both teams grounds. Sunderland were quite.

lucky
03-10-2012, 07:13 PM
Surprised City and Arsenal have not sold out. But even at the top end of the game fans are struggling to continue forking out for games live on TV.

Hibee87
03-10-2012, 07:14 PM
Not convinced having been to both teams grounds. Sunderland were quite.

and they sing som random song about disco pop :confused:

Pretty Boy
03-10-2012, 07:16 PM
Sunderland fans make the most noise.

Thought it was Stoke now?

If it is God knows how. I was at a game at the Britannia last season as I was staying in Stoke (worst city ever) for a training course. Crowd was loud but the football was truly awful, Bobby Williamson stuff without the entertainment.

Wotherspiniesta
03-10-2012, 07:16 PM
Not convinced having been to both teams grounds. Sunderland were quite.

Actually having a look at a poll from 2 seasons ago it would appear Liverpool are the loudest. Man United a close 2nd, Aston Villa 3rd and Man City...13th. Behind the likes of Wigan, Stoke, Blackpool and Sunderland.

http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/big-picture/2011-08-25/loudest-fans-premier-league-revealed-where-does-your-club-rank

HH81
03-10-2012, 07:16 PM
and they sing som random song about disco pop :confused:

Who cares what they sing?

hfc rd
03-10-2012, 07:34 PM
Joe Hart has kept citeh in this match. If it wasn't for him, Dortmund could easily be 3-4 up.

Scouse Hibee
03-10-2012, 07:36 PM
The City fans did the same when they were Chelsea fans.

Who next?

Scouse Hibee
03-10-2012, 07:38 PM
Joe Hart has kept citeh in this match. If it wasn't for him, Dortmund could easily be 3-4 up.

That's allowed he is part of the team. Funny how you always hear that said about keepers but never about the striker who scores the only goal!

hfc rd
03-10-2012, 07:52 PM
That's allowed he is part of the team. Funny how you always hear that said about keepers but never about the striker who scores the only goal!


Yeah I'm just very surprised on how easily Dortmund are cutting through citeh's defence. Citeh had the best defensive record in England last season and that defence was like a shield.

Scouse Hibee
03-10-2012, 07:57 PM
Yeah I'm just very surprised on how easily Dortmund are cutting through citeh's defence. Citeh had the best defensive record in England last season and that defence was like a shield.


Kompany not the rock he was last season.

Wotherspiniesta
03-10-2012, 08:00 PM
Kompany not the rock he was last season.

Ironically, they cant find Kompany a defensive partner.

HH81
03-10-2012, 08:02 PM
Yeah I'm just very surprised on how easily Dortmund are cutting through citeh's defence. Citeh had the best defensive record in England last season and that defence was like a shield.

You defend as a team and the germans have not scored yet? Still got a clean sheet....

hfc rd
03-10-2012, 08:03 PM
Ironically, they cant find Kompany a defensive partner.


Pretty weird that one. The lad playing next to Kompany right now is supposed to be the new Nemanja Vidic.

Wotherspiniesta
03-10-2012, 08:03 PM
You defend as a team and the germans have not scored yet? Still got a clean sheet....

...0-1 Dortmund

IWasThere2016
03-10-2012, 08:04 PM
Rodwell howler .. 1-0 Dortmund

hfc rd
03-10-2012, 08:04 PM
You defend as a team and the germans have not scored yet? Still got a clean sheet....

Now they have.

PeeJay
03-10-2012, 08:04 PM
More than deserved for Dortmund ...:greengrin

HibeeN
03-10-2012, 08:07 PM
Love marco reus! Such an exciting player

HH81
03-10-2012, 08:07 PM
Now they have.

Missed it was watching storage wars, any good?

hfc rd
03-10-2012, 08:09 PM
Love marco reus! Such an exciting player

He's a great player. I also like the look of that Mario Goetze.

SteveHFC
03-10-2012, 08:11 PM
City :faf:

Rodwell :faf:

SteveHFC
03-10-2012, 08:24 PM
Steven Pressley:
http://bundesligafootball.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ec0369382276145ebc560ace2c5d_grande1.jpg

Jurgen Kloop:
http://www.scottishfootballleague.com/docs/009__034__features__Steven_Pressley_crop__12810873 67_standard.jpg

3pm
03-10-2012, 08:24 PM
City have had the pish ripped out them.

Toure, shocker.

Off the bar
03-10-2012, 08:31 PM
penalty to citeh

Off the bar
03-10-2012, 08:32 PM
1-1 baloteli

SteveHFC
03-10-2012, 08:32 PM
Piss off Balotelli

Sylar
03-10-2012, 08:32 PM
Dortmund robbed. Never a penalty.

hfc rd
03-10-2012, 08:32 PM
Harsh call but well taken.

HH81
03-10-2012, 08:35 PM
City to win now...

Scouse Hibee
03-10-2012, 08:37 PM
Chelcity fans hurridly reverse their shirts.

Pretty Boy
03-10-2012, 08:37 PM
City to win now...

Hope so, stupidly stuck them in my bet after a rush of blood to the head. All my other teams winning.

SteveHFC
03-10-2012, 08:38 PM
Hart the best keeper in the world. Very Good :faf:

hfc rd
03-10-2012, 08:38 PM
FT. Very harsh pen call. Feel very sorry for Dortmund. They deserved to take the three points as without Hart they could have got 6-7.

PeeJay
03-10-2012, 08:39 PM
Superb game from Hart - otherwise City were 2nd best in everything - Dortmund missed too many chances: they should have had this game sewn up...

Scouse Hibee
03-10-2012, 08:40 PM
Hart the best keeper in the world. Very Good :faf:


What did he do?

Pretty Boy
03-10-2012, 08:40 PM
Hart the best keeper in the world. Very Good :faf:

He's up there.

hfc rd
03-10-2012, 08:42 PM
He's up there.


Definitely the only citeh player that derserves pass marks.

Scouse Hibee
03-10-2012, 08:43 PM
Hart the best keeper in the world. Very Good :faf:

Top keeper IMO

LeighLoyal
03-10-2012, 08:46 PM
Dortmund way better side, never a penalty either.

Scouse Hibee
03-10-2012, 08:51 PM
The champions league isn't always won by the best team in Europe just like any other cup competition.

DaveF
03-10-2012, 08:56 PM
Great game, Dortmund were outstanding but paid the price in the end for not finishing City off.

Any complaints from the city fans about never getting decisions :greengrin

NORTHERNHIBBY
03-10-2012, 09:00 PM
No surprised that the game was not a sell out. That is a fair distance for the Citeh fans to travel midweek .

Wotherspiniesta
03-10-2012, 09:02 PM
Was watching the Arsenal game.

They were actually quite poor, Olympiacos could have taken at least a point. The Arsenal defenders are proper athletes though. Koscielny, Vermaelen and Jenkinson may be a bit dodge at the back , but are all absolute engines.

Johnny0762
03-10-2012, 09:05 PM
City let me down for £128 on my coupon, but at 0-1 I waged money on the draw so actually came out with a small profit overall.

Haymaker
03-10-2012, 09:09 PM
Joe Hart, what a game son! :top marks Some of those saves were unreal!

Sir David Gray
03-10-2012, 09:20 PM
City just got humped 1-1.

Only saw the second half but that performance by Dortmund was brilliant.

Superb passing, excellent work ethic and playing at a really high tempo.

If Lewandowski had buried that chance at 1-0, it would have been done and dusted.

It was never a penalty but there you go.

LancsHibs
03-10-2012, 09:27 PM
Dortmund robbed, that was a 1-1 thrashing :bitchy:

Jonnyboy
03-10-2012, 09:53 PM
As a City 'sympathiser' even I'd admit they were outplayed tonight by a long, long way.

Scoreline should read Dodgy penalty 1 Thanks to Joe Hart 1

sbell1875
03-10-2012, 09:58 PM
Who next?

PSG or Anzhi!

Pete
04-10-2012, 12:17 AM
City will have to get better if they want more died in the wool mancunians like Usain Bolt to come to their games.

Hibs90
04-10-2012, 02:03 AM
City look a shadow of the team from last season. Paying the price for not spending at the summer? When most other clubs bought top players City were buying Scott Sinclair and Jack Rodwell who are hardly CL material.

IWasThere2016
04-10-2012, 06:35 AM
It will be interesting to read the views if we don't get a pen on Saturday should a shot on goal strike an arm that above waist height and stuck out. Looked a cert pen to me - and class tuck fae Super Mario also :agree:

DaveF
04-10-2012, 07:05 AM
It will be interesting to read the views if we don't get a pen on Saturday should a shot on goal strike an arm that above waist height and stuck out. Looked a cert pen to me - and class tuck fae Super Mario also :agree:

We have all seen them before, so you don't need to worry about this saturday in particular. Blocking a shot with your arm IS a penalty but IMO there has to be intent. Being a yard away with the ball taking a nick of your leg before hitting the arm is not intentional in my book.

It was a very soft 'home' decision but it happens. I'll take it if we get one on Saturday, but I will not be two faced and come on here to say it was a stone waller.

Skanko79
04-10-2012, 08:03 AM
dont see how anyone can really have a dig at man city's fans. after the loyalty they showed when they went to division 2 and almost went to the wall. very similar to our own story really so dont see how anyone can have a dig or call them glory hunters or chelsea fans in disguise.

been to many city games both at maine road and coms and they are deffo not glory hunters. i think you will find thats the red half of manchester.

dangermouse
04-10-2012, 08:12 AM
It will be interesting to read the views if we don't get a pen on Saturday should a shot on goal strike an arm that above waist height and stuck out. Looked a cert pen to me - and class tuck fae Super Mario also :agree:

I haven't seen the incident but by what you are describing, Aberdeen should have had a penalty on Saturday then?

JimBHibees
04-10-2012, 08:57 AM
City completely outclassed and should have been horsed. The Sky commentators usual nonsense about EPL best league in the world was surprisingly missing from the commentary. The commentators tried to say that playing in England meant that they were more likely to score late goals, no idea what his point was but it was nonsense. Dortmund were very good but blew it with the chances they missed especially Lewandowski's one. Never a pen.

HH81
04-10-2012, 09:04 AM
dont see how anyone can really have a dig at man city's fans. after the loyalty they showed when they went to division 2 and almost went to the wall. very similar to our own story really so dont see how anyone can have a dig or call them glory hunters or chelsea fans in disguise.

been to many city games both at maine road and coms and they are deffo not glory hunters. i think you will find thats the red half of manchester.

I wouldn't worry about it, the chaps commenting on the glory hunting of man city are the red types and have never being able to get a ticket. They have however, been on a ground tour.

TamHibs
04-10-2012, 09:16 AM
dont see how anyone can really have a dig at man city's fans. after the loyalty they showed when they went to division 2 and almost went to the wall. very similar to our own story really so dont see how anyone can have a dig or call them glory hunters or chelsea fans in disguise.

been to many city games both at maine road and coms and they are deffo not glory hunters. i think you will find thats the red half of manchester.

Brian I know that you're a proper City fan who has been through thick & thin with the club but please don't try & tell me since City had the Arabs pump money into the club that you's haven't now had glory hunters start jumping on the bandwagon. All of England's top 4 have glory hunters but at least Man Utd didn't have to rely on a billionaire to take them to the top.

DaveF
04-10-2012, 09:21 AM
I haven't seen the incident but by what you are describing, Aberdeen should have had a penalty on Saturday then?

The McPake handball was a penalty all day long but last night's decision was nothing like it. The Dortmund defender was far closer to the ball and I'm pretty sure it took a nick of his leg onto his arm.

Skanko79
04-10-2012, 09:24 AM
Brian I know that you're a proper City fan who has been through thick & thin with the club but please don't try & tell me since City had the Arabs pump money into the club that you's haven't now had glory hunters start jumping on the bandwagon. All of England's top 4 have glory hunters but at least Man Utd didn't have to rely on a billionaire to take them to the top.

wasnt really my point tambo. its only natural when a club starts doing well and buying the best players on the planet that folk will jump on the bandwagon. there is a hard core element of 30-35k city fans who have been to hell and back with the club, watched them go to div 2 and almost go bust. these boys are in no way shape or form glory hunters and if im being honest there is no other club that you would ever want to see living the arab dream than city cos the fans deserve it.

i see your point tambo completely pal but last seasons united team was almost as expensive as citys. it doesnt just take a shower of arabs to plough money into your team and united have the same luxury.

Pretty Boy
04-10-2012, 09:28 AM
People on this board seem a bit obsessed with who folk like as a 'second' team.

If people want to go to a Man City game once a season, cheer when they score on TV and buy a strip then good luck to them, doesn't affect my life. There's definitely been an increase in people wearing Man City strips in recent years but of course that would happen, they're successful now. The same thing happened with Man Utd in the 90s, Chelsea in the 00s and Madrid and Barca always have plenty representation in my 5s team as well

LancashireHibby
04-10-2012, 01:25 PM
Just watching that game on TV. It just brings home to me the real difference between German and British football.

The Germans were almost to a man in their seats (with or without beach towels) at least half an hour before kick off, which is quite normal for home games as well, at least for the 'fans' sections. The Citeh supporters seem to be still arriving, though it may just be a sh*tey home support. Though there was hardly anyone in their areas about 5 minutes before the game.

The Germans have been singng since I switched the game on, while I've so far heard two quiet chants of 'Citeh'. The stewards also seem to be having a hard time explaining to the Germans that they're not supposed to be standing up, or having any fun that could be deemed against safety standards. Good luck to them :greengrin
In fairness the Dortmund fans didn't have much choice to be in their seats so early as they were escorted to the ground from the city centre at 6pm and there's no booze on sale on the concourses for European games.

IWasThere2016
05-10-2012, 06:18 PM
I haven't seen the incident but by what you are describing, Aberdeen should have had a penalty on Saturday then?

Yup - it was a pen IMHO.

VickMackie
05-10-2012, 06:29 PM
City completely outclassed and should have been horsed. The Sky commentators usual nonsense about EPL best league in the world was surprisingly missing from the commentary. The commentators tried to say that playing in England meant that they were more likely to score late goals, no idea what his point was but it was nonsense. Dortmund were very good but blew it with the chances they missed especially Lewandowski's one. Never a pen.

I was reading that Mancini was asked if Hart's performance was the best goalkeeping performance in goalkeeping history. :faf:

Whilst I never seen the game I did see the saves on Sky Sports just now he had 1 (onto the post), possibly 2 (tip on the bar) great saves. the rest were straight at him. Yes, it looked like a good performance but unless they missed the wonder saves then it sounds like typical English journalists to me.

hfc rd
05-10-2012, 07:28 PM
I was reading that Mancini was asked if Hart's performance was the best goalkeeping performance in goalkeeping history. :faf:

Whilst I never seen the game I did see the saves on Sky Sports just now he had 1 (onto the post), possibly 2 (tip on the bar) great saves. the rest were straight at him. Yes, it looked like a good performance but unless they missed the wonder saves then it sounds like typical English journalists to me.


The annoying thing for me is that I stay in Manchester and all it has been in the papers and media down here is Joe Hart this, Joe Hart that. Take nothing away, I think Hart is up there as the best GK in the world at this moment in time but their has been no praise or anything for the way Dortmund played and how it could easily have been 6-7. If any English club played like that away from home in Europe and got robbed from a very harsh pen call in the 90th min the media here would be raging at the ref but also praising how really well the English club played.

LeighLoyal
05-10-2012, 07:40 PM
Lewandowski missed a sitter but he's a great striker, I can see England struggling to make Brazil :agree:

jgl07
05-10-2012, 10:42 PM
Brian I know that you're a proper City fan who has been through thick & thin with the club but please don't try & tell me since City had the Arabs pump money into the club that you's haven't now had glory hunters start jumping on the bandwagon.

Average attendance 2003-04 = 46,834

Average attendance 2011-12 = 47,004

Haymaker
05-10-2012, 10:44 PM
Average attendance 2003-04 = 46,834

Average attendance 2011-12 = 47,004

In my experience glory hunters rarely attend games. I know plenty of people who jumped on the Chelsea band wagon years back who have never been to a game and they live in London!

PeeJay
06-10-2012, 05:11 AM
The annoying thing for me is that I stay in Manchester and all it has been in the papers and media down here is Joe Hart this, Joe Hart that. Take nothing away, I think Hart is up there as the best GK in the world at this moment in time but their has been no praise or anything for the way Dortmund played and how it could easily have been 6-7. If any English club played like that away from home in Europe and got robbed from a very harsh pen call in the 90th min the media here would be raging at the ref but also praising how really well the English club played.

The German media looked at it with less blinkered view than some of those in the UK, I guess - Hart's performance was duly praised - he had a great game. Weidenfeller - also had a great game. Dortmund played excellently, City were "off song" - partly due to Dortmund's tactics and performance. Overall a draw was felt to be a fair result as City had some excellent chances too and the Dortmund goalkeeper did made some great stops. Dortmund have made tremendous progress compared with last season's campaign - I'd like to see them in the final.

BTW - "It could have been..". and "...it wasn't a penalty..." are pointless really, surely, after all it wasn't and it was...:greengrin