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Haymaker
30-09-2012, 09:26 PM
Alright guys, this could get complicated but here goes...
My friend has just become a father with another friend of mine - They werent in a relationship when the baby was born. She claims he has "****ed up" during the pregnancy by "not being around all the time" and has said he can only have 2 hours access per week. His name is on the birth certificate and DNA has confirmed he is the father (another story!).
The father isnt sure that is correct and we cant seem to get concrete evidence that it is wrong. Does anyone know, or can point us in the right direction.
As a Godfather to the little one I dont want this ending up in courts or anything.
Mental situation to be in.
Matty_Jack04
30-09-2012, 09:57 PM
2hrs a week isn't gonna work when her pals are out every weekend getting lashed and having a great time whilst she's in changing dirty bums, have a word in her ear about that and maybe your mate could get the kid every 2nd weekend and take it from there
as for fathers rights.....we don't have any...the way of the world although changed hugely in its opinions towards women (and quite rightly may I add) it still views fathers as providers only instead of realising the importance of having 2 parents involved as much as possible, not helped by the guys who shirk there responsibilities but not everyone deserves to be tarred with the same brush.
if your pals can't sort something together although I'm no expert I don't think there's much than can be sorted outside of court unfortunately
discman
30-09-2012, 10:20 PM
2hrs a week isn't gonna work when her pals are out every weekend getting lashed and having a great time whilst she's in changing dirty bums, have a word in her ear about that and maybe your mate could get the kid every 2nd weekend and take it from there
as for fathers rights.....we don't have any...the way of the world although changed hugely in its opinions towards women (and quite rightly may I add) it still views fathers as providers only instead of realising the importance of having 2 parents involved as much as possible, not helped by the guys who shirk there responsibilities but not everyone deserves to be tarred with the same brush.
if your pals can't sort something together although I'm no expert I don't think there's much than can be sorted outside of court unfortunately
The Family Law ( Scotland) Act 2006 provides parental rights and responsibilities to the unmarried father
if he jointly with the mother registers the childs birth. so providing this is all set here,he does have rights,
and as wellas offering to help an acknowledgement that he could have done more ,wont go amiss,at the end of theday
if he's serious about being involved in his childs life,he will do whatever it takes to make that happen and the first step is
usually parking the ego and agreeing to anything and everything to have quality access......I wish him well. :aok:
Matty_Jack04
01-10-2012, 06:24 AM
I was of the thinking the OP was needing outside of the courts advice
if his mate goes to court his 'equal parenting' right will be 2 days a week overnight access whilst paying 10% a month of his income to the mother and no help to pay for the days he has access.
the mother will be entitled to help with her rent discounted council tax working tax credits child tax credits child care allowances not to mention te extra shed receive if she is already without a job,if she has a job she's entitled to months off her work paid leave whilst the guy gets 2 weeks one of which is unpaid.
not exactly equal rights IMO
Hibee87
01-10-2012, 10:06 AM
Alright guys, this could get complicated but here goes...
My friend has just become a father with another friend of mine - They werent in a relationship when the baby was born. She claims he has "****ed up" during the pregnancy by "not being around all the time" and has said he can only have 2 hours access per week. His name is on the birth certificate and DNA has confirmed he is the father (another story!).
The father isnt sure that is correct and we cant seem to get concrete evidence that it is wrong. Does anyone know, or can point us in the right direction.
As a Godfather to the little one I dont want this ending up in courts or anything.
Mental situation to be in.
This is an unfortunate situation to be in a one i storngly disagree about, what gives the woman a right to tell the father when and when not he can see his own child?
I have friends who have been in similar situations and the courts have favoured the mother who tells a pack of lies.
he was with her had a child broke up...she took the hump at this and starting blocking the access, she wouldnt even let my mates mum see the child....this went on for months and eventually to court where my friend said that the mum smoked cannabis and drank a lot leaving the child with her own mother when he would be happy to look after the lad...she claimed this was nonsense (despite my friend backing this up with facebook updates and photos) and refused to take a drug test on the basis it was lies...a lot of tit of tat ensured she claimes my mate had knocked her about, which again was lies and she had never reported it to police so why bring it up in court? and so you know what the outsome was.......my mate had to have supervised visits to his own child once a week for 4 hours. the grandma (my mates mum) was not allowed to see her granchild atall because the mum claimes she was a 'drunk' despite not drinking in excess or ever drinking when seeing the child she actually holds a respectable job within a bank which involves her driving and her work said they had no concerns about her being a so called 'drunk' this was 3 years ago and to this day the gradma, when if bought her grandson a present for birthday or crimbo, had it send back to her by the boys mum......now tell me is all that in the best interests of the child?
StevesFamau5
01-10-2012, 11:22 AM
This is an unfortunate situation to be in a one i storngly disagree about, what gives the woman a right to tell the father when and when not he can see his own child?
I have friends who have been in similar situations and the courts have favoured the mother who tells a pack of lies.
he was with her had a child broke up...she took the hump at this and starting blocking the access, she wouldnt even let my mates mum see the child....this went on for months and eventually to court where my friend said that the mum smoked cannabis and drank a lot leaving the child with her own mother when he would be happy to look after the lad...she claimed this was nonsense (despite my friend backing this up with facebook updates and photos) and refused to take a drug test on the basis it was lies...a lot of tit of tat ensured she claimes my mate had knocked her about, which again was lies and she had never reported it to police so why bring it up in court? and so you know what the outsome was.......my mate had to have supervised visits to his own child once a week for 4 hours. the grandma (my mates mum) was not allowed to see her granchild atall because the mum claimes she was a 'drunk' despite not drinking in excess or ever drinking when seeing the child she actually holds a respectable job within a bank which involves her driving and her work said they had no concerns about her being a so called 'drunk' this was 3 years ago and to this day the gradma, when if bought her grandson a present for birthday or crimbo, had it send back to her by the boys mum......now tell me is all that in the best interests of the child?
Thats almost identical to a friend of mines situation. And hes been outcast since 2009. I struggle to understand why despite the evidence provided didnt alter the outcomd in his favour.. It does seem to show favourism to the mother.
I asked my mate what he was going to get his lad for xmas.. This answer summed it up for me. "im honestly not sure, i dont even know what he likes" :(
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Haymaker
02-10-2012, 06:18 PM
Cheers guys... This one is going to get messy sadly.
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