McPake (merged)

[Hibeesmad]

Coventry Telegraph (http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2012/05/09/james-mcpake-in-dark-over-future-as-hibs-line-up-100-000-offer-92746-30929509/)

[Pretty Boy]

The couple of comments by the Coventry fans seem to suggest they think we'd be getting a bargain at 100k. I agree.

Hope we get something sorted as soon as the finals out the way before the inevitable 'interest' from Celtic.

[Hibs7]

The link doesn't work.!!!

[frazeHFC]

The thought of getting him for £100k is just unreal!

[Hibs7]

Looked at the site and the fans want to keep him, go for it Hibs would be the best signing you could do.
It would seem like McPake wants to stay otherwise why would Hibs even bother to contact Country if he wanted to go back down south.

[Davy Mac]

At the end of the day the money generated from actually getting to the final was a bonus so at the very least sign a couple of players who helped make it happen.

Spine of your team begins with goalkeeper and centre half.

Let's do it Hibs, good positive media spin before the final.

[cad]

We better get him sorted quick then, he isnt going to stay on the shelf long, effort like his and leadership sells Season Tickets Rod, know wot I mean :wink:

[jane_says]

Comment from city supporter:
'
Hopefully he will make the right decision and come back home to City. Also i hope Roy O'Donnovan make the right decision and stay at Hibs'

[PeterboroHibee]

I think we will be lucky to keep him. Other clubs will be aware of how much of a difference hes made to our team and will be very interested. I might be wrong but it will take a bigger offer than £100k to get him imo.

Also dont understand why Coventry were so happy to let him go out on loan? He pretty much came into the team straight away and he has all the qualities to try and guide a team away from the relegation zone, youd think they could have used that!

[J-C]

I think we will be lucky to keep him. Other clubs will be aware of how much of a difference hes made to our team and will be very interested. I might be wrong but it will take a bigger offer than £100k to get him imo.

Also dont understand why Coventry were so happy to let him go out on loan? He pretty much came into the team straight away and he has all the qualities to try and guide a team away from the relegation zone, youd think they could have used that!


Heard his wife hadn't settled and wanted to return home.

[Betty Boop]

Heard him on Real Radio last night, saying he is going back to Coventry on July 1st.

[J-C]

Heard him on Real Radio last night, saying he is going back to Coventry on July 1st.

That's cause his loan ends then, only until an offer from Hibs is made and then accepted, he'll return to being a Coventry player.

[blackpoolhibs]

Comment from city supporter:
'
Hopefully he will make the right decision and come back home to City. Also i hope Roy O'Donnovan make the right decision and stay at Hibs'




:tee hee: the opposite would be better. :pray:

[hibsbollah]

I am meeting our esteemed captain this afternoon, i think i will put him in a (gentle, non-injury causing) arm lock and force him to sign something :agree:

[SteveHFC]

James had a really bad injury, double fracture of his lower back if i remember correctly, and before that had a few others that stopped him playing a lot of games.

I've also heard that he would like to return to scotland but that could just be gossip
From what i've saw since he came in he is well worth 100k and a 3 year deal

[007 Mickey Weir]

We have the money early this year and are now safe. So lets move fast on McPake, Griffiths and GOC. Would also like us to look at Wilson from Celtic and a decent keeper. Although if Brown gets a run I quite fancy him next season.

Midfield is also an area we need to strengthen.

Signing targets -

New keeper
RB (Wilson)
LB (Dixon from Utd)
CB (McPake)
CM
RM (Swanston)
LM (Hayes)
ST (GOC/Griffiths)

Get Ozzy and Stevenson signed up too.

[Barman Stanton]

McPake must be no 1 priority. Hopefully a decent signing on fee and our highest wage will be enough to get him to sign. He is the leader we have been looking for since Jones departed.

[Sean1875]

Would go along with what was posted on here before saying there was a £100,000 agreemenet for a permanent singing anytime, hoping he stays asa Hibernian with James McPake is far superiour to a Hibernian FC without him.

[Hainan Hibs]

Going from the comments from Coventry fans their chairman is desperate for cash.

They won't know what's hit them when Petrie delivers a negotiation haymaker:agree:

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

Heard his wife hadn't settled and wanted to return home.

good enough for me!! bring the lad home :)

[Phil MaGlass]

Can see him signing for us for 100,000 and being sold on for over a million.C´mon Rod get the cash splashed.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Let's put it this way, there better not be any fannying about by this board and lose him to another Scottish team just like the Agathe situation.

[Craig_in_Prague]

wouldnt it just be the hibs way to see him lift the SC and then lose out on him.

we really need this lad signed up..a leader of men and will set standards at the club.

[JimBHibees]

:tee hee: the opposite would be better. :pray:

Alot better. :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

wouldnt it just be the hibs way to see him lift the SC and then lose out on him.

we really need this lad signed up..a leader of men and will set standards at the club.

Got to be said I would take that scenario. :greengrin

[Wembley67]

Give him the money for the phonecalls made this morning....surely a cool £500k :greengrin

[21.05.2016]

Would be absolutely delighted if we got him signed up, he has been outstanding. We have been in desperate need of a player like him for years! 100K in my opinion is an absolute steal!

Obviously we don't know his personal situations, i.e. if his wife has managed to settle here etc. but hopefully if we win the cup that will make him more likely to stay.

:flag:

[SlickShoes]

Signing targets should be 11 James McPake's.

[superfurryhibby]

Would love to see him stay, he has shown his mettle. A lot will be down to his wages, desire to stay and price we are willing to pay Coventry. A lot of variables at work. I'll be surprised, but delighted should McPake sign.

[J-C]

Certain loan signings have an option to buy arrangement if the player and both clubs are happy, this may be the case with McPake and also Griffiths, here's hoping.

[Matty_Jack04]

@ScotFootBlog: Coventry press suggest permanent Hibs deal expected for McPake. Mentioned importance of this last night: http://t.co/FjuaWeo6

[SteveHFC]

@ScotFootBlog: Coventry press suggest permanent Hibs deal expected for McPake. Mentioned importance of this last night: http://t.co/FjuaWeo6

:thumbsup:
:thumbsup:

[KWJ]

According to coventry telegraph. :cb

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2012/05/09/james-mcpake-in-dark-over-future-as-hibs-line-up-100-000-offer-92746-30929509/

[Makaveli]

Fiver each in a bucket when we're collecting tickets, aye? :greengrin

[Jack Ferrigan]

Reading the responses from Coventry fans they don't want him to leave but seem to accept he will due to their own financial worries. Every cloud has a silver lining and it's time Hi-Bees got some luck. Lets save the rest of it for the 19th. GGTTH

[muzzhfc]

if we have any ambition, then we should pull out all the stops to sign him. would be a real sign of intent to the fans.

[21.05.2016]

if we have any ambition, then we should pull out all the stops to sign him. would be a real sign of intent to the fans.

Absolutely :agree:

[Sean1875]

Best £100,000 well ever spend if this is true. Come on James, you belong here :flag:

[givescotlandfreedom]

Bite their hand off

[alfieboi75]

He is at the right club and hopefully become a Hi Bee legend...let's hope this does come true for everyone linked to Hibs!!!

Pat the Man...make it happen!!!

GGTTH!!!!

[hughio]

Funny sort of article. Seems to be speculation.

The comments are interesting though.Seems their chairman is desperate for cash and their manager whoever he is doesn't rate James??

I'm feeling positive about the prospects of him coming for good.:greengrin

[Dunbar Hibee]

I will be genuinely heartbroken if we don't sign him permanently.

[muzzhfc]

I will be genuinely heartbroken if we don't sign him permanently.

i think we all will be. i dont think we have been this passionate and supportive, as a mass, of a player in such a long time. everyone has a good word to say about him, unlike the mixed views on riordan, o'connor, sproule, stevenson etc

[007 Mickey Weir]

Good move for him aswell. His wife seemingly wants to move back to Scotland. He will be our club captain. Playing regular football with a great shout at getting a Scotland call up. He could get £3k a week plus a signing on fee on a 3 yr deal.

Cost Hibs £468k in wages over 3 years, plus £100k fee and £50k signing on fee. Bargain at £618k over 3 years.

Very realistic. Come on Petrie sort it out!!!

[Hibercelona]

I reckon they'd be looking more in the region of 200-250k for him.

Which would still be an absolute steal IMO.

[Craig_in_Prague]

I'm not a 7 yr old girl, but I think I love him lol

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Seems like a no-brainer to me.

[Leithenhibby]

I reckon they'd be looking more in the region of 200-250k for him.

Which would still be an absolute steal IMO. :agree:

When you see what he brings to the show, worth every penny. I also think Hanlon has come on a bundle with James by his side... :aok:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/19817653@N04/7097733855/in/photostream/lightbox/

[Hibernian Verse]

I reckon they'd be looking more in the region of 200-250k for him.

Which would still be an absolute steal IMO.

Supposedly the 100k was in the loan deal.

[hibsbollah]

I can confirm that less than 30 minutes ago McPake SIGNED!


...my daughter's Hibs flag :greengrin (as did Mark Brown, who seemed a decent guy and took it quite well that a 8 year old lassie was studiously ignoring him and staring at McPake with her mouth open).

They'll be at opticians@marchmont on warrender park road signing things for the next 45 minutes :aok:

[Wheat Hound]

I can confirm that less than 30 minutes ago McPake SIGNED!


...my daughter's Hibs flag :greengrin (as did Mark Brown, who seemed a decent guy and took it quite well that a 8 year old lassie was studiously ignoring him and staring at McPake with her mouth open).

They'll be at opticians@marchmont on warrender park road signing things for the next 45 minutes :aok:

Could you not have done the old movie trick of getting him to sign the piece of folded paper which is actually a five year contract then send it to Rod?!!

[hibsbollah]

Could you not have done the old movie trick of getting him to sign the piece of folded paper which is actually a five year contract then send it to Rod?!!

:grr: see, thats the kind of idea you only think of AFTER the event. :greengrin

[--------]

@ScotFootBlog: Coventry press suggest permanent Hibs deal expected for McPake. Mentioned importance of this last night: http://t.co/FjuaWeo6

That's a very sensible, balanced summary of our situation.

Especially this bit:

"This summer needs sensible, competitive investment in the team. A reinvigorated scouting policy. The fabled but faded conveyor belt of young talent chugging back into life.

The sort of sound management of footballing matters that has somehow eluded Hibs of late.

A permanent deal for on-loan captain James McPake would be a fine starting point. A show of ambition, a symbol of determination, a sound building block for both the immediate future and a signing to develop a team around in the long term.

It would also be a far more meaningful "thank you" to the fans than a lap of honour in the immediate aftermath of a win over the SPL's bottom club.

Fenlon has a part to play. Some fans still need to be convinced that he's the right man for the job. More perhaps are happy to give him the benefit of the doubt, impressed with his commitment and his desire to put right the wrongs of the past.

He can't do that alone. There are others at the club who have survived managerial changes and presided over the general decline into this malaise.

They've made plenty of mistakes. This summer must surely be their last chance to show that lessons have been learned.

Last night showed that the fans will respond to meaningful games and will react to fine performances.

They shouldn't have to wait until the last home game of the season with SPL survival on the line to prove it."

[--------]

Could you not have done the old movie trick of getting him to sign the piece of folded paper which is actually a five year contract then send it to Rod?!!

Don't be silly - Jake knows there ain't no such thing as a Sanity Clause...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS2khYJZKwA

[Amit]

The reason the £100k is doing the rounds is because there is "apparently" a clause in the loan contract that Hibs can buy James for this amount.

Fingers crossed James can agree personal terms with Hibs.

[CMac1988]

The reason the £100k is doing the rounds is because there is "apparently" a clause in the loan contract that Hibs can buy James for this amount.

Fingers crossed James can agree personal terms with Hibs.

Heard this today also.

A basic wage of around £3000 (so far anyway) a week is doing the rounds aswell... Someone also mentioned whether or not we stayed up was a deciding factor (this seems a given though).

[Hibercelona]

Supposedly the 100k was in the loan deal.

If true, then we could be looking at one of the best deals we've ever made.

I could never rate this man highly enough.

[Hibercelona]

:agree:

When you see what he brings to the show, worth every penny. I also think Hanlon has come on a bundle with James by his side... :aok:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/19817653@N04/7097733855/in/photostream/lightbox/

:agree:

He seems to be having a gradual influence on the entire team, which is another great attribute of his.

I can only see us going forward next season with James McPake in the side.

[Franck Stanton]

Please god, get this lad signed up NOW. By F A R the best defender we have had at the club for years. A born leader. Wish we had 11 McPakes in the team. Would be just the boost we need if deal was done and announced on the 18th. Our end would be really Bouncing at Hampden. :not worth

[patlowe]

For me the best thing about McPake is that he is coming into his peak. If we can get him signed up long term then for once we would have a top class player for the best years of his career. Exactly what we have lacked over the last ten years.

[The_Todd]

Signing up McPake on a permanent deal would be the signal of intent our fans need to see from the club as it starts to atone for this season's shambles.

[hibsbollah]

With all this McPake-love going on in the media and amongst fans (not yams though, they all thought he was rubbish in the derby, and, having no interest in football, don't know any better) isnt there a chance of a)his price going up and b) other teams getting interested?

I think its time for a McPake is gash campaign :dunno:

[leither17]

With all this McPake-love going on in the media and amongst fans (not yams though, they all thought he was rubbish in the derby, and, having no interest in football, don't know any better) isnt there a chance of a)his price going up and b) other teams getting interested?

I think its time for a McPake is gash campaign :dunno:

I have never rated him he aint hibs class there we go that's a start

[Hibs7]

Get him Signed up before the final..... what a boost that would be.....!!!!

[3pm]

Don't quote me but I am sure Scoopyboy posted a permanent fee was agreed at the time of taking him on loan.

Sure it was on the thread where it suggested he was £9K a week.

[Cocaine&Caviar]

I would happily contribute £20 for his signing on fee.

[Kaiser1962]

Don't quote me but I am sure Scoopyboy posted a permanent fee was agreed at the time of taking him on loan.

Sure it was on the thread where it suggested he was £9K a week.

Coventry are not difficult to deal with and Thorn dosent really rate McPake and practically chased him here. McPake wasnt keen on coming and I am led to believe is not that keen on staying.

He's on nowhere near 9k a week.

[R'Albin]

I would happily contribute £20 for his signing on fee.

I would happily contribute my left leg if it meant us signing Mcpake!

[Vini1875]

Would be a steal at £100k. Hopefully there is enough in the kitty for McPake and Griffiths. Actually would be delighted to see McPake sign for twice the figure of £100k

[HibeeMG]

Would be a steal at £100k. Hopefully there is enough in the kitty for McPake and Griffiths. Actually would be delighted to see McPake sign for twice the figure of £100k

TBH I'd rather he signed for £100k than £200k. Might just be me though. :greengrin

[CallumLaidlaw]

Heard this today also.

A basic wage of around £3000 (so far anyway) a week is doing the rounds aswell... Someone also mentioned whether or not we stayed up was a deciding factor (this seems a given though).

There seems to be an anti-Petrie version of this rumour doing the rounds too. I was told there was a deal of £100k to Coventry, and £3k a week to McPake if hibs wanted at the end of the season, but Petrie said we'll leave any deal till the end of the season. I don't buy that to be honest.

[Bostonhibby]

Give him the money for the phonecalls made this morning....surely a cool £500k :greengrin

:greengrin You've seen my 3 phone bills then?

[scoopyboy]

Don't quote me but I am sure Scoopyboy posted a permanent fee was agreed at the time of taking him on loan.

Sure it was on the thread where it suggested he was £9K a week.

I did mate, but I don't know what the agreed fee is.

He's on 5 to 6 a week is my info.

[Jim44]

How long is left on his contract at Coventry? If it's more than one year the price of £100K is laughable and will be met by a string of other clubs.

[HibeeMG]

How long is left on his contract at Coventry? If it's more than one year the price of £100K is laughable and will be met by a string of other clubs.

The £100k is only on offer to us as it was agreed at the start of his loan period. Coventry have to honour it (if the clause actually exists). They can put whatever price tag they want on him for anyone else though.

[scoopyboy]

How long is left on his contract at Coventry? If it's more than one year the price of £100K is laughable and will be met by a string of other clubs.

one year.

[At The Edge]

Coventry are not difficult to deal with and Thorn dosent really rate McPake and practically chased him here. McPake wasnt keen on coming and I am led to believe is not that keen on staying.

He's on nowhere near 9k a week.

Are you sure?
anyone that has spoke to him and read his twitter, he's always full of praise for Hibs and the fans.

[Jim44]

The £100k is only on offer to us as it was agreed at the start of his loan period. Coventry have to honour it (if the clause actually exists). They can put whatever price tag they want on him for anyone else though.

If this is the case then fair enough. If there is no clause then I think we should be looking at a bigger offer to land a player of his quality. Of course Petrie might be boxing clever in an attempt at throwing a smokescreen over the 'deal'.

[dmc1875]

Coventry are not difficult to deal with and Thorn dosent really rate McPake and practically chased him here. McPake wasnt keen on coming and I am led to believe is not that keen on staying.

He's on nowhere near 9k a week.


:confused: His body language, the way he was after we won the semi and at the end against Dunfermline doesnt scream to me someone who isn't enjoying his time here...

Add that to what he has said in the press and on twitter I think he is enjoying his football with us and is starting to get a good feel about what this club is all about.

[coco22]

without being OTT, i think securing mcpake on a permanent deal could be one of the most important / best signings of recent years. centre halves like him do not become available to us (if he potentially is?) very often and think that number one priority is getting him on board. he is easy to watch - even when he made an error the other night, at 3 - 0 up and cruising, the commitment and drive to make up for it and fight for the team was outstanding.

[Kaiser1962]

Are you sure?
anyone that has spoke to him and read his twitter, he's always full of praise for Hibs and the fans.

:confused: His body language, the way he was after we won the semi and at the end against Dunfermline doesnt scream to me someone who isn't enjoying his time here...

Add that to what he has said in the press and on twitter I think he is enjoying his football with us and is starting to get a good feel about what this club is all about.

He is a good ambasador and a good captain and I would hope that we can persuade him to stay. The trips to Hampden certainly wont have done our case any harm although I believe we have a way to go to sell Hibs to him.

We will know soon enough now I suppose.

[blackpoolhibs]

I dont think we have done it before, but other clubs have had donations from wealthy supporters to fund certain player purchases.

I wonder if this would interest the more wealthy of us, and would the club welcome such a move? :dunno:

[CRAZYHIBBY]

I heard he has already recieved offers from two championship clubs and there is another spl team other than us interested

[Sammy7nil]

I dont think we have done it before, but other clubs have had donations from wealthy supporters to fund certain player purchases.

I wonder if this would interest the more wealthy of us, and would the club welcome such a move? :dunno:

My £2.50 is in the post :wink:

[Gmack7]

what about using the foolproof EBT system to fund this deal:wink:

[james]

Was speaking to garry earlier in the week about the final etc, and then I asked him about if he wants to stay, and he does. Which is good news for us! But then I asked him about James, and his face dropped when he told me that he was a great leader on and off the pitch, and said. 'He's on 7-10K a week, so I don't know if hibs can afford him' I really hope hibs pull out all the stops to make sure he stays!

[blackpoolhibs]

Was speaking to garry earlier in the week about the final etc, and then I asked him about if he wants to stay, and he does. Which is good news for us! But then I asked him about James, and his face dropped when he told me that he was a great leader on and off the pitch, and said. 'He's on 7-10K a week, so I don't know if hibs can afford him' I really hope hibs pull out all the stops to make sure he stays!

I find it strange Garry wouldn't know exactly how much Mcpake was on, when you think about it, he's guessing too. Was it 7k a week or 10k, or is it 4k?

[JE89]

Was speaking to garry earlier in the week about the final etc, and then I asked him about if he wants to stay, and he does. Which is good news for us! But then I asked him about James, and his face dropped when he told me that he was a great leader on and off the pitch, and said. 'He's on 7-10K a week, so I don't know if hibs can afford him' I really hope hibs pull out all the stops to make sure he stays!

He retweeted a Coventry fan who said he was looking forward to McPake going back next year. Granted this doesn't mean much but seems like he'll be away but would love him to stay. Fantastic defender.

[joe breezy]

He's maybe guessing but perhaps basing it on better knowledge than we have

I don't know what any of my colleagues ate in at work but I could give a good guess I think

[Ozyhibby]

I'd be surprised if he did know. Most people keep their salary to themselves.

[Ultrabee1-0]

he has hinted stuff about going back to Coventry but he is also hinting he is staying with hibs.
he's a confusing ******* but knows what to say and not to give anything away:rolleyes:
even if he does leave hibs we cant knock him for his efforts and am sure he loves the fans as well:aok:

[Westie1875]

he has hinted stuff about going back to Coventry but he is also hinting he is staying with hibs.
he's a confusing ******* but knows what to say and not to give anything away:rolleyes:
even if he does leave hibs we cant knock him for his efforts and am sure he loves the fans as well:aok:

:agree: The laddie certainly knows how to keep everyone guessing. :greengrin

Hopefully he stays here where he will be guaranteed first team football and be the Captain of Hibernian where everyone loves him. :flag:

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

If someone asked me what I earn the reply would be NOYFB and that would apply to Mrs Nothern as well.

[Ultrabee1-0]

:agree: The laddie certainly knows how to keep everyone guessing. :greengrin

Hopefully he stays here where he will be guaranteed first team football and be the Captain of Hibernian where everyone loves him. :flag:

yeh he does:agree:

[Ultrabee1-0]

also with Coventry being relegated and the financial problems he will take a massive wage cut.
cant see any player down in the npower league 1 on higher than 5k.

[Beefster]

My only fear about McPake is that Hibs make it an easy decision for him to go back to Coventry when he's the one player that they should be pulling out all the stops, breaking wage structures and the likes to keep.

[Hibercelona]

I'm sure Garry would have told you what wages James is on. :rolleyes:

[The_Todd]

McPake appears to retweet anyone who says "RT please" so I wouldn't read much into the retweets.

[Cocaine&Caviar]

Well when I discussed salaries with a "Source" in March, I was told that Griffiths is in fact the highest paid player in the squad, obviously paid by Wolves...

[silverhibee]

Well when I discussed salaries with a "Source" in March, I was told that Griffiths is in fact the highest paid player in the squad, obviously paid by Wolves...


Griffiths is not on the greatest of wage at Wolves.

[hfc rd]

Really hope that the cup final is not his last ever game and that he stays. With Coventry being relegated, I highly doubt that they will still be paying their players over 5k p/w. Those high earners will be told to take a big wage cut.

[RickyS]

Really hope that the cup final is not his last ever game and that he stays. With Coventry being relegated, I highly doubt that they will still be paying their players over 5k p/w and they will be telling those high earners to take a big wage cut.

are relegation wage cuts not a standard part of a contract?

[GMIZ]

heard him on STV news last night saying this will be his last game for us .For gods sake R P get him signed quick best player and captain for a long time.

[sbell1875]

heard him on STV news last night saying this will be his last game for us .For gods sake R P get him signed quick best player and captain for a long time.

Did he not say its likely to be his last game?

It's a difficult position for him because he can't just come out and say he wants a move because it is Coventry who own his contract and pay his wages.

But I'd sign him in a heartbeat.

[MontrealHibs]

No he said last game. No use of the word likely.

[PeeJay]

On the HIBS TV interview he said he would be back at Coventry for the start of season training UNLESS Hibs and Coventry could work out something else for him .... he didn't want to go into the matter any further as he is totally focussed on the cup final.

[Beefster]

No he said last game. No use of the word likely.

I heard him say that it looked like it would be his last game on STV news.

[ScottB]

At this point it is his last game for the club. Simple as that. Hopefully a deal happens in the summer to keep him here longer!

[MontrealHibs]

Lets hope so. Sir James after today! :-)

[Del Boy]

Our best player today but still pretty poor. Would like him to stay but can't see why he'd want to.

[givescotlandfreedom]

He was going absolutely ballistic at Thomson the cheat at full time. Had to be dragged away and still was furious.
His team mates don't deserve him.

[SlickShoes]

Thanks James, sorry to see him go, the only positive of the second worst day ive had as a hibby.

[heidtheba]

Thanks James, sorry to see him go, the only positive of the second worst day ive had as a hibby.

Sorry to bring up obviously bad memories but this is my worst day and I feel like cr*p - what did you see that was worse?

[ScottB]

He was going absolutely ballistic at Thomson the cheat at full time. Had to be dragged away and still was furious.
His team mates don't deserve him.

Him and Leigh were the only ones that seemed to give a crap. Everyone else, if they can't raise themselves for a cup final they shouldn't be masquerading as footballers!

[SlickShoes]

Sorry to bring up obviously bad memories but this is my worst day and I feel like cr*p - what did you see that was worse?

4-0 semi was worse for me, and the 4-4 draw at tynecastle because i was in the hearts end and got mobbed by yams.

[Future17]

Him and Leigh were the only ones that seemed to give a crap. Everyone else, if they can't raise themselves for a cup final they shouldn't be masquerading as footballers!

What makes you think Griffiths cares? Him shaking hands with Black when he got subbed?

[3pm]

What makes you think Griffiths cares? Him shaking hands with Black when he got subbed?

Aye, raging at that son.

[AlbertK86]

No he said last game. No use of the word likely.

He actually said there is a good chance it will be his last game

[Cropley10]

At this point it is his last game for the club. Simple as that. Hopefully a deal happens in the summer to keep him here longer!

Only if more fans buy Season Tickets.

[Wotherspiniesta]

What makes you think Griffiths cares? Him shaking hands with Black when he got subbed?

Shaking hands with the opposition?

Should be hounded out of the club for that.

[jdships]

Our best player today but still pretty poor. Would like him to stay but can't see why he'd want to.

That's it , in a nutshell, for me !
As soon has he is up against a striker with a bit of movement and mobility he looks pretty ordinary.
Think there is better to be had out there especially if Coventry want money for him.
Squad player at best

:rolleyes:

[Hibeez Boy!xx]

He said on radio that he was still a coventry city player and will be back their on 1st of july. As much as he loves hibs don't blame him not to play with this crap!!!

[ThirdManRun]

That's it , in a nutshell, for me !
As soon has he is up against a striker with a bit of movement and mobility he looks pretty ordinary.
Think there is better to be had out there especially if Coventry want money for him.
Squad player at best

:rolleyes:

Aye very good. We're Hibs, we can do better and all that nonsense.

[Hibercelona]

If we don't sign James up right now, they'll be no Dunfermline to save us next season.

[hibeemikey21]

Our best player today but still pretty poor. Would like him to stay but can't see why he'd want to.

To be fair to him, being the rock of that "defence" is a tough gig.

When we were 2-0 down and Doherty had just been shredded by Driver for the umpteenth time, I just saw him look across at Doherty and raise his hands in the air as if to say "wtf?" after he had to leave his man to cover. You could tell by his body language that he was just bemused by what was going on around him.

He not only has to worry about the man he is marking, but also the man that is going to walk through unopposed/unchallenged almost every single time.

Elliot didnt have a sniff today. It was the lack of effort/commitment from the full backs and midfielders who should have been tracking who lost it for us. Couldn't really pin any blame on McPake, or Hanlon for that matter. They were fighting a losing battle from the off.

Bottom line, if I was McPake, I wouldn't be in a mad rush to come here. He could get a much more cushy gig elsewhere.

Thanks for keeping us up though, James.

[Heckys Wheel]

Being "the rock" of that defense may be tough, but closing your man down and not letting him turn and get a shot in is not. He's been good but today he doesn't get any pass marks either.

[Hiber-nation]

Being "the rock" of that defense may be tough, but closing your man down and not letting him turn and get a shot in is not. He's been good but today he doesn't get any pass marks either.

Maybre cos he was doing the work of 4 players?

[leithsansiro]

What makes you think Griffiths cares? Him shaking hands with Black when he got subbed?


"No hard feelings?" after the early shocker of an elbow

Possible future teammates? :wink:

[Baldy Foghorn]

Being "the rock" of that defense may be tough, but closing your man down and not letting him turn and get a shot in is not. He's been good but today he doesn't get any pass marks either.

His block at 2-0 was superb, thought it would be turning point. 1 minute into second half our dreams evaporated, not sure I would blame McPake for our capitulation.........

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Todays daily record........don't judge me.

He's all ours for £100,000. And I'm convinced he wants to play for us.

Petrie - blow the dust of the cheque book and get it done.

Glory glory

[neilmartinrocks]

Todays daily record........don't judge me.

He's all ours for £100,000. And I'm convinced he wants to play for us.

Petrie - blow the dust of the cheque book and get it done.

Glory glory

if this is the case and we dont go for him
:confused::confused:

[God Petrie]

This is news? Every Hibs fan has known this for about 2 months.

[Albion Hibs]

£100k to buy him, fine I am sure we could do that. What is his weekly wage though? the transfer fee is never going to be the issue, its the weekly cost that will be the problem.

[Captain Trips]

There is no way we can build a team all totally for free if a fee needs paid then this is the player.

[snooky]

Todays daily record........don't judge me.

He's all ours for £100,000. And I'm convinced he wants to play for us.

Petrie - blow the dust of the cheque book and get it done.

Glory glory

Sounds like the Record are advertising our player on the market before we actually get him.
It's not like the DR to sabotage our player negotiations ....... :fibber:

[Hibbyradge]

I don't know why folk are so worked up about him, tbh.

He's not that great. He just happens to be a bit better then what we had previously.

Fair enough if we get him, but I'll not be too unhappy if we bring in someone else.

[kaimendhibs]

£100k to buy him, fine I am sure we could do that. What is his weekly wage though? the transfer fee is never going to be the issue, its the weekly cost that will be the problem.

3k a week on 3 year deal:flag:

[BarneyK]

This is news? Every Hibs fan has known this for about 2 months.

Agreed. Not sure what is new here. There is still the small matter of agreeing his wages :dunno:

[down-the-slope]

Sounds like the Record are advertising our player on the market before we actually get him.
It's not like the DR to sabotage our player negotiations ....... :fibber:

:agree:....takes up space so they don't have to fill it with Rangers woes

[Don Giovanni]

I don't know why folk are so worked up about him, tbh.

He's not that great. He just happens to be a bit better then what we had previously.

Fair enough if we get him, but I'll not be too unhappy if we bring in someone else.

Aye, we don't need leadership, commitment or winners at the club...

FFS :bitchy:

[Sammy7nil]

I don't know why folk are so worked up about him, tbh.

He's not that great. He just happens to be a bit better then what we had previously.

Fair enough if we get him, but I'll not be too unhappy if we bring in someone else.

I have said the same thing myself a few times.
He is better than we have in a very poor squad, he was also in the Hibs team that has lost 5,5,4,3 and plenty 2 goals per game. He works hard and is committed I hope he stays but talk of breaking the bank to keep him are way off the mark imho.

[BarneyK]

I have said the same thing myself a few times.
He is better than we have in a very poor squad, he was also in the Hibs team that has lost 5,5,4,3 and plenty 2 goals per game. He works hard and is committed I hope he stays but talk of breaking the bank to keep him are way off the mark imho.

I would like to think that 100k is not breaking the bank, nor £3k a week.

[Wotherspiniesta]

I have said the same thing myself a few times.
He is better than we have in a very poor squad, he was also in the Hibs team that has lost 5,5,4,3 and plenty 2 goals per game. He works hard and is committed I hope he stays but talk of breaking the bank to keep him are way off the mark imho.

Aye, but you don't rate anyone.:rolleyes:

McPake is solid. We should build a team around him next year if possible.

He wasn't brilliant against Hearts, granted. But he's definately tightened us up at the back. Can't remember many silly goals we've lost towards the tail end of the season with McPake in the line-up TBH. (Hearts game aside)

[Hibs7]

"He wasn't brilliant against Hearts" !!!!!!!!!!!
He was a one man defence and he was all over the place covering for the full backs, best signing Hibs could do.

[Sammy7nil]

Aye, but you don't rate anyone.:rolleyes:

McPake is solid. We should build a team around him next year if possible.

He wasn't brilliant against Hearts, granted. But he's definately tightened us up at the back. Can't remember many silly goals we've lost towards the tail end of the season with McPake in the line-up TBH. (Hearts game aside)

I don'y know why I am bothering to respond but Mcpake was okay in the final if you don't think he should have been closer to Skacel for the 1st and maybe his 2nd your wrong. All this talk about James is a one man team is bull, he is a good player who has failed to significantly improve the defenders around him and been unable to organise a defensive set up that could keep a clean sheet on a regular basis.

Gretna, Dunfermline and Airdrie all recently played far better than us against better teams in a SC final.

James is good he is not a great yet and has plenty of work to do to become one, get over it.

PS I rate lots of players very highly just none in this current squad. If you can name 3 or 4 players from this team that would get in any other Hibs team in the last 25 years I would be glad to listen.

[BarneyK]

[QUOTE=Sammy7nil;3246742]
James is good he is not a great yet and has plenty of work to do to become oneQUOTE]

That will be good enough to be going on with :thumbsup: The alternative is scouring the lower leagues in England or in Ireland to most probably come up with another Sean O'Hanlon. Let's get a backbone signed for the team and try to bring some of the kids on to supplement them.

[Just_Jimmy]

"He wasn't brilliant against Hearts" !!!!!!!!!!!
He was a one man defence and he was all over the place covering for the full backs, best signing Hibs could do.

Aye and scoring our goal(s) in the same game as well. Get him signed.

[Wotherspiniesta]

"He wasn't brilliant against Hearts" !!!!!!!!!!!
He was a one man defence and he was all over the place covering for the full backs, best signing Hibs could do.

I wouldn't say anyone who was part of a defence that lost 5 goals was "brilliant".

[Wotherspiniesta]

I don'y know why I am bothering to respond but Mcpake was okay in the final if you don't think he should have been closer to Skacel for the 1st and maybe his 2nd your wrong. All this talk about James is a one man team is bull, he is a good player who has failed to significantly improve the defenders around him and been unable to organise a defensive set up that could keep a clean sheet on a regular basis.

Gretna, Dunfermline and Airdrie all recently played far better than us against better teams in a SC final.

James is good he is not a great yet and has plenty of work to do to become one, get over it.

PS I rate lots of players very highly just none in this current squad. If you can name 3 or 4 players from this team that would get in any other Hibs team in the last 25 years I would be glad to listen.

I'm sure Hanlon would disagree.

As for not keeping clean sheets on a regular basis, fair enough. But the goals we've been conceding are nothing like the school boy errors that cost us so dearly in the early part of the season. We've conceded some penalties, teams have scored some great goals against us, and even some flukey goals. Defensively, as a whole, the team has improved. (Again, taking the Hearts game to one side)

[Hibby_Paul]

Given the huge influx of average joe players we have had in the club in last few years we finally find one who gives us real leadership and decent enough ability.

With our track record we would probably struggle to get an equivalent in the £100k market - £3k per week market.

I wouldnt 'burst bank' but if the above fee and wage result in that then I do wonder what hope we have for next season!

[Albion Hibs]

I'm sure Hanlon would disagree.

As for not keeping clean sheets on a regular basis, fair enough. But the goals we've been conceding are nothing like the school boy errors that cost us so dearly in the early part of the season. We've conceded some penalties, teams have scored some great goals against us, and even some flukey goals. Defensively, as a whole, the team has improved. (Again, taking the Hearts game to one side)

I dont know about that, would be interested to see the stats under CC and then under PF and then PF with his own players in the team.

We went to ibrox at the start of the year and were unfortunate not to get a draw losing 1 nil, they then gubbed us 4 nil at ibrox with McPake getting sent off, again at the start of the season we played v well against celtic for 20mins at home, the same fixture then filled us in 5 nil. Similar games against Motherwell, St J, and Inverness. I dont see how we improved defensively, but the numbers would tell there own story i would imagine.

[Kaiser1962]

My understanding is that James just does not fancy either the SPL or Hibs, at least he didnt fancy Hibs (that much) when he joined on loan in January although he (probably) enjoyed his time here, the big games, more than he thought he would.

Hibs and Coventry are not the issue.

[hibsbollah]

My understanding is that James just does not fancy either the SPL or Hibs, at least he didnt fancy Hibs (that much) when he joined on loan in January although he (probably) enjoyed his time here, the big games, more than he thought he would.

Hibs and Coventry are not the issue.

Im not sure how you would know that, unless you're intimate family. He has straight-batted every question on the subject out of respect to both Hibs and Coventry, as a true professional would. Ive met him and he was totally inscrutable about his future.

[Saturdays Hero]

My understanding is that James just does not fancy either the SPL or Hibs, at least he didnt fancy Hibs (that much) when he joined on loan in January although he (probably) enjoyed his time here, the big games, more than he thought he would.

Hibs and Coventry are not the issue.

Who told you this :confused:

[HibeeMassive]

My understanding is that James just does not fancy either the SPL or Hibs, at least he didnt fancy Hibs (that much) when he joined on loan in January although he (probably) enjoyed his time here, the big games, more than he thought he would.

Hibs and Coventry are not the issue.]

That's not what the man himself was saying as recent as a fortnight ago.. Would love to stay, the main thing which will sway him is a 3 year deal.

[Kaiser1962]

Fair enough. Lets see what happens.

[Littlest Hobo]

I don't expect McPake to sign for us. He'll have bigger teams than us after him I would've thought.

[Judas Iscariot]

I don't expect McPake to sign for us. He'll have bigger teams than us after him I would've thought.

Any ideas who?

[Albion Hibs]

I don't expect McPake to sign for us. He'll have bigger teams than us after him I would've thought.

I am unsure as to what he would do. Part of me thinks he does not have the options he wants, hence an advert with his price in it is back in the newspaper today, no doubt his agent leading that one.

I am sure he has an offer from hibs as a fall back but he is probably wanting something bigger. 100k and 3k per week, fine, but I would not be offering him anymore than 3k per week.

[The Falcon]

]

That's not what the man himself was saying as recent as a fortnight ago.. Would love to stay, the main thing which will sway him is a 3 year deal.

When and where did he say this? I'm with Hibsbollah here in that all I have ever heard from the man is non-commitall, but respectful, comments of which a politician would be proud. I hope we can do a deal with him.

[--------]

I am unsure as to what he would do. Part of me thinks he does not have the options he wants, hence an advert with his price in it is back in the newspaper today, no doubt his agent leading that one.

I am sure he has an offer from hibs as a fall back but he is probably wanting something bigger. 100k and 3k per week, fine, but I would not be offering him anymore than 3k per week.


:agree:

And BBC is saying we're close to signing Motherwell's Irish centre-back Tim Clancy. 28 years old, 6' tall.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian

Personally, I'd take them both, but I won't be sweating if we end up signing someone else.

[Littlest Hobo]

I am unsure as to what he would do. Part of me thinks he does not have the options he wants, hence an advert with his price in it is back in the newspaper today, no doubt his agent leading that one.

I am sure he has an offer from hibs as a fall back but he is probably wanting something bigger. 100k and 3k per week, fine, but I would not be offering him anymore than 3k per week.

Ye I agree with that to a certain extent. I would definitely push the boat out a little further for this guy. He's not just a player but a leader too. Let's see what happens.

[Albion Hibs]

Ye I agree with that to a certain extent. I would definitely push the boat out a little further for this guy. He's not just a player but a leader too. Let's see what happens.

I am sure when we start getting into a bit more there are better players out there. In addition when you factor in a free agent being avaliable you could potentially add £900 a week to a salary, then you have a decision to make as that would no doubt attract other, better options.

But when you are getting to 3/4k per week i am sure you could pick up a decent striker, an area that we will have to spend money if we want something of a very good quality.

[BarneyK]

I am sure when we start getting into a bit more there are better players out there. In addition when you factor in a free agent being avaliable you could potentially add £900 a week to a salary, then you have a decision to make as that would no doubt attract other, better options.

But when you are getting to 3/4k per week i am sure you could pick up a decent striker, an area that we will have to spend money if we want something of a very good quality.

Disagree. I think we need a leader, and someone to build the defence around. Not doubting for one second that there are better central defenders available out there, but most certainly doubting that any of them would be willing to come to us for the wages we offer.

[BarneyK]

That said, I agree with you that I wouldn't go too far past 3k a week :agree:

[Albion Hibs]

Disagree. I think we need a leader, and someone to build the defence around. Not doubting for one second that there are better central defenders available out there, but most certainly doubting that any of them would be willing to come to us for the wages we offer.

Happy to agree to disagree on that one. I think if we are "breaking the bank" 3/4k per week is a very good wage and for that sort of money we could be getting a more accomplished CH.

[Wotherspiniesta]

Happy to agree to disagree on that one. I think if we are "breaking the bank" 3/4k per week is a very good wage and for that sort of money we could be getting a more accomplished CH.

Such as?

[BarneyK]

Happy to agree to disagree on that one. I think if we are "breaking the bank" 3/4k per week is a very good wage and for that sort of money we could be getting a more accomplished CH.

Yip, all about opinions. All I'd say though, how much do we reckon Matt Doherty and George Francomb are on? What is their current market value? If they were joining, how much would they be looking for? I mean, we know they wouldn't be the answer, but I would suggest they are already priced out of our market. Not a knock on either player, by the way, just a note on how fairly average players are on higher wages down south. I would maybe add that even Sol Bamba is now waaaay out of our price range, and we know that he wasn't perfect. There's the thing, we're not going to get a complete player. We are going to get slightly flawed. I say don't get held to ransom by McPake, but certainly try to seal a deal.

[Part/Time Supporter]

Yip, all about opinions. All I'd say though, how much do we reckon Matt Doherty and George Francomb are on? What is their current market value? If they were joining, how much would they be looking for? I mean, we know they wouldn't be the answer, but I would suggest they are already priced out of our market. Not a knock on either player, by the way, just a note on how fairly average players are on higher wages down south. I would maybe add that even Sol Bamba is now waaaay out of our price range, and we know that he wasn't perfect. There's the thing, we're not going to get a complete player. We are going to get slightly flawed. I say don't get held to ransom by McPake, but certainly try to seal a deal.

Supposedly moving to Turkey for €1M.

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/Leicester-City-s-Sol-Bamba-linked-Turkey/story-16152538-detail/story.html

[BarneyK]

Supposedly moving to Turkey for €1M.

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/Leicester-City-s-Sol-Bamba-linked-Turkey/story-16152538-detail/story.html

Good luck to him. I liked him as a player.

[ekhibee]

I don'y know why I am bothering to respond but Mcpake was okay in the final if you don't think he should have been closer to Skacel for the 1st and maybe his 2nd your wrong. All this talk about James is a one man team is bull, he is a good player who has failed to significantly improve the defenders around him and been unable to organise a defensive set up that could keep a clean sheet on a regular basis.

Gretna, Dunfermline and Airdrie all recently played far better than us against better teams in a SC final.

James is good he is not a great yet and has plenty of work to do to become one, get over it.

PS I rate lots of players very highly just none in this current squad. If you can name 3 or 4 players from this team that would get in any other Hibs team in the last 25 years I would be glad to listen.

I agree with this. I like McPake, he has some fire in his belly which some of the other players in the cup final certainly didn't, and he'd be quite a good signing to get, but that said, I still think he needs a solid partner in the centre of defence, cos to me Hanlon isn't it, although I still think there is more to come from McPake. It's quite tricky to say what his performance was like in the cup final, because the rest of the team were so bad, and he was as culpable as anybody (though not solely responsible) for 1, maybe 2 of the Hearts goals, but that performance aside he is a decent player and would certainly be a positive signing, if not the player that the whole team should be built round. Just my opinion though.

[hibsmad]

Yip, all about opinions. All I'd say though, how much do we reckon Matt Doherty and George Francomb are on? What is their current market value? If they were joining, how much would they be looking for? I mean, we know they wouldn't be the answer, but I would suggest they are already priced out of our market. Not a knock on either player, by the way, just a note on how fairly average players are on higher wages down south. I would maybe add that even Sol Bamba is now waaaay out of our price range, and we know that he wasn't perfect. There's the thing, we're not going to get a complete player. We are going to get slightly flawed. I say don't get held to ransom by McPake, but certainly try to seal a deal.

Excellent point.

The one thing we have seen this season through our loan signings is what sort of standard we can expect when shopping about for players who arent currently getting a look in at Premiership clubs. Im not saying we couldn't find better in this market, but it has at least shown that just because a player is registered at a Premiership side, it does not mean that they are going to come up here and stand out. The one player who has stood out is McPake and if he knows that the likes of Doherty and Francombe are going back down south to earn in the region of 3k per week thaen there is no chance he will want to except less.

The other point this raises is that if we are not prepared to offer McPake what he is after (which if it is 3k then it is not an absolutely huge amount) then surely we should just ignore the English market entirely and only focus on the Scottish and over seas leagues.

[snooky]

McPake has been tried and tested IMO - get him signed.
All this stuff about there's better out there, well maybe there is.
However, in our current position we can't afford to sign pigs in pokes.

[Hibercelona]

McPake has been tried and tested IMO - get him signed.
All this stuff about there's better out there, well maybe there is.
However, in our current position we can't afford to sign pigs in pokes.

If we can get him signed up, he'd be the best defender since Murphy. (possibly even better!)

We must get him signed up. We're going to need him next season.

[HibeeMassive]

When and where did he say this? I'm with Hibsbollah here in that all I have ever heard from the man is non-commitall, but respectful, comments of which a politician would be proud. I hope we can do a deal with him.

Was sitting with him all night at the end of season dinner. Spoke very candidly about anything that was brought up and said he'd take need to take a significant wage drop to come to Easter road, but would be keen to stay if the clubs agreed terms.

He said the main thing he wanted was security, looking to start a family so wants a 3 year contract and would be happy to accept what he believes Hibs pay (this was before any apparent offers had been tabled).

[VickMackie]

McPake has been tried and tested IMO - get him signed.
All this stuff about there's better out there, well maybe there is.
However, in our current position we can't afford to sign pigs in pokes.

I agree, tried and tested is the key here.

[smurf]

"Petrie! Sign him up!!".

[The Falcon]

Was sitting with him all night at the end of season dinner. Spoke very candidly about anything that was brought up and said he'd take need to take a significant wage drop to come to Easter road, but would be keen to stay if the clubs agreed terms.

He said the main thing he wanted was security, looking to start a family so wants a 3 year contract and would be happy to accept what he believes Hibs pay (this was before any apparent offers had been tabled).

Thats reassuring to hear. Pity he wasnt as forthcoming on twitter.

[Postman]

Happy to agree to disagree on that one. I think if we are "breaking the bank" 3/4k per week is a very good wage and for that sort of money we could be getting a more accomplished CH.

Would love to know who you reckon would be better or more accomplished player than McPake that is going to be available for £100k or less and the 3/4k you suggest?? I'm actually surprised a deal could possibly be done for around the 3k a week that is being suggested for McPake and If it's correct then its a no brainer. There will be far worse players in England getting paid a lot more money than that.

[Ultrabee1-0]

nothing to worry about really just thought id give everyone the up to date news.
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/top-football-stories/james-mcpake-set-for-coventry-talks-as-hibs-wait-in-wings-1-2322141

[HibsMax]

It's quite tricky to say what his performance was like in the cup final, because the rest of the team were so bad
I thought he was about the only player worthy of pass marks. Scored out only goal and cleared a certain goal off the line. Also was trying to gee up the players after the first two goals went in and i didn't see anyone else doing that.

[Dinkydoo]

I thought he was about the only player worthy of pass marks. Scored out only goal and cleared a certain goal off the line. Also was trying to gee up the players after the first two goals went in and i didn't see anyone else doing that.

Totally agree with this.

Without McPake the scoreline would (probably) have been MUCH more embarrassing.

At the first goal, he probably should have closed down the ball quicker - but so should everyone, it was a bit of a scramble - and the second was unlucky to come off his boot and go into the corner. Add to that he saved a certain goal with his clearance and he then managed to put one in at the other end when we were pushing forward, we were lucky to have him on the field.

He seemed to be the only player (perhaps aside from Griffiths) who actually gave a f... on the day.

[Stevie Reid]

Even if it was somehow proven that McPake's defensive ability only looked really good in the context of the horrendous defensive displays that we have suffered since early 2010, his leadership qualities, spirit, desire and attitude are still a bargain at £100K, I reckon. On top of that, he wins the vast majority of his aerial battles and puts his body on the line for the team - he is exactly the kind of character that we need, and have been missing for years.

Would be a very important signing.

[blackpoolhibs]

Even if it was somehow proven that McPake's defensive ability only looked really good in the context of the horrendous defensive displays that we have suffered since early 2010, his leadership qualities, spirit, desire and attitude are still a bargain at £100K, I reckon. On top of that, he wins the vast majority of his aerial battles and puts his body on the line for the team - he is exactly the kind of character that we need, and have been missing for years.

Would be a very important signing.

Yip 100% spot on, we need to build a team from the back, and he has the type of qualities all good sides have.

Remember we spent 100k on Colin Nish, and similar on John Rankin. Mcpake would imo have a much bigger influence on the club than any other signing in years.

[Andy74]

Yip 100% spot on, we need to build a team from the back, and he has the type of qualities all good sides have.

Remember we spent 100k on Colin Nish, and similar on John Rankin. Mcpake would imo have a much bigger influence on the club than any other signing in years.

I don't think this will ever be about £100k, that's a no brainer even for Hibs!

It's much more likley to come down to whether McPake wants to play in the SPL and whether he wants to take a big drop in salary.

[blackpoolhibs]

I don't think this will ever be about £100k, that's a no brainer even for Hibs!

It's much more likley to come down to whether McPake wants to play in the SPL and whether he wants to take a big drop in salary.

I agree, its will be more to do with the salary plus length of the term. It seems from all the speculation and tit bits we hear, that he wants 3 years and £3k a week. If this is the case, i cant believe we have not said yes yet.

We need to be getting better players, he is one we all think is what we need. Another 3 or 4 similar types are what we need too, and if thats the price then we have to pay it. Sod 8 players at £1.5k a week, who are no better than what we have, if Fenlon can get similar quality to McPake then we need to go for it.

Supplement them with the bosmans and kids, we have had enough dross for too long. Each season i hear its quality over quantity, when in reality its the reverse.

[one day maybe...]

I personally am hoping that Hibs are looking to bring in 4/5 quality players on 3 year deals, no good having them on 1/2 year deals as we are then continually rebuilding the team then and create no stability. Bring in quality on these length of deals and we can move forward with optimsim, if not we get more of the same for the foreeseable future. So for me it is a no brainer McPake and few other good professionals that our up and coming young players can observe/learn from doing the correct things ie: lifestyle choices, training & eating correctly and conducting themselves as ambassodors of the club and we can move forward, if not then I see football clubs like Hibernian continuing to decline to the pouint that no-one wants to be associated with football in Scotland anymore.

[Teo10]

As said before it is all down to wether he wants the salary cut/to play in the SPL. To all the championship/lower english leagues they think the SPL is a total joke and a p*sh league to boot.. this is coming from someone who currently plays for a championship side... they all laugh when someone suggests playing in the SPL!

[shearer1981]

I agree, its will be more to do with the salary plus length of the term. It seems from all the speculation and tit bits we hear, that he wants 3 years and £3k a week. If this is the case, i cant believe we have not said yes yet.

We need to be getting better players, he is one we all think is what we need. Another 3 or 4 similar types are what we need too, and if thats the price then we have to pay it. Sod 8 players at £1.5k a week, who are no better than what we have, if Fenlon can get similar quality to McPake then we need to go for it.

Supplement them with the bosmans and kids, we have had enough dross for too long. Each season i hear its quality over quantity, when in reality its the reverse.
Spot on comment - Hibs often employ 4-5 mediocre players and dont give youth a chance and yet our best teams have had really good pro's working with hungry kids - its the best blend. If RP doesnt get McPake and a class Centre mid and striker then I dont think we have to worry about PF being fired - cos he'll walk and thats the real problem here - total lack of ambition on the pitch. We CAN put it right now though and build something.

[The_Exile]

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/hibernian/103581-talks-expected-as-hibs-weigh-up-a-100000-bid-for-james-mcpake/

Hibs favourite James McPake would be happy to join the Edinburgh side permanently, if the club can negotiate a transfer for him.
The defender, who captained Hibs in the Scottish Cup final, has returned to Coventry City after his loan spell in the capital ended.
However it is believed that a bid of £100,000 from the Easter Road team would be enough to prise him away from the Midlands club, who were relegated from the Championship last season.
Speaking to the Daily Record, a source close to the player said: “James would like to stay and it’s now up to chairman Rod Petrie and Coventry to agree a deal. The ball is now firmly in Hibs’ court.”
McPake recently told the Coventry Telegraph that he expected to report for pre-season training with Coventry on July 1.
The 27-year-old, who was called-up to the Northern Ireland international squad last week, said: “Things do change in football but, at the moment, I’m not out looking for it or begging Hibs to try and buy me.”



Would seem to be very much a case of "over to you rod"

[snooky]

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/hibernian/103581-talks-expected-as-hibs-weigh-up-a-100000-bid-for-james-mcpake/

Hibs favourite James McPake would be happy to join the Edinburgh side permanently, if the club can negotiate a transfer for him.
The defender, who captained Hibs in the Scottish Cup final, has returned to Coventry City after his loan spell in the capital ended.
However it is believed that a bid of £100,000 from the Easter Road team would be enough to prise him away from the Midlands club, who were relegated from the Championship last season.
Speaking to the Daily Record, a source close to the player said: “James would like to stay and it’s now up to chairman Rod Petrie and Coventry to agree a deal. The ball is now firmly in Hibs’ court.”
McPake recently told the Coventry Telegraph that he expected to report for pre-season training with Coventry on July 1.
The 27-year-old, who was called-up to the Northern Ireland international squad last week, said: “Things do change in football but, at the moment, I’m not out looking for it or begging Hibs to try and buy me.”



Would seem to be very much a case of "over to you rod"

:shhhsh!: .... you can almost hear those beans sliding over the boardroom table.

[Jim44]

£100K is not a lot of money for a player who could be the foundation round which a 'new' Hibs might be built. It would just be like the thing for Petrie to play hardball with Coventry, only to allow another club to slip in and steal him. Petrie must know that the fans deperately need a bit of encouraging news to spark off the feel-good factor ( in our case maybe the feel-OK factor would suffice) after the nightmare of last season.

[Westie1875]

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/hibernian/103581-talks-expected-as-hibs-weigh-up-a-100000-bid-for-james-mcpake/

Hibs favourite James McPake would be happy to join the Edinburgh side permanently, if the club can negotiate a transfer for him.
The defender, who captained Hibs in the Scottish Cup final, has returned to Coventry City after his loan spell in the capital ended.
However it is believed that a bid of £100,000 from the Easter Road team would be enough to prise him away from the Midlands club, who were relegated from the Championship last season.
Speaking to the Daily Record, a source close to the player said: “James would like to stay and it’s now up to chairman Rod Petrie and Coventry to agree a deal. The ball is now firmly in Hibs’ court.”
McPake recently told the Coventry Telegraph that he expected to report for pre-season training with Coventry on July 1.
The 27-year-old, who was called-up to the Northern Ireland international squad last week, said: “Things do change in football but, at the moment, I’m not out looking for it or begging Hibs to try and buy me.”


Would seem to be very much a case of "over to you rod"

Right RP, time to get it done. Pronto!

[hibeelin]

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/4349666/200k-cut-suits-Mac.htmlhttp://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/4349666/200k-cut-suits-Mac.html



Come on Rod, you know what to do!

:agree::agree::agree::agree::agree::agree:

[Sir David Gray]

He's willing to give up on £200,000!?

Really? :dunno:

[frazeHFC]

:thumbsup:


Come on Hibs, please!!!

[Wotherspiniesta]

If we can't sign this guy up we might aswell pack it in.

Here's a guy who's passionate about the club, wears his heart on his sleeve, puts his body on the line, risks damaging his back week in week out for us, shows leadership qualities, was our captain for the 2nd part of the season, wins about 95% of his aerial challenges, is genuinely a cracking defender and (according to the sun albeit!) is willing to take a cut in wages to sign for us.

If we don't sign him, the board can GTF as far as I'm concerned because the lack of ambition will destroy this club.

[hibee92]

The Sun
No quotes



http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsgi2ribsQ1r3pcbso1_400.gif

[Captain Trips]

No quotes indeed, however true or not this sort of story will now put a lot of pressure on the Hibs board which is good as I want them folk to earn every penny of salary/bonus or whatever they are paid in.

[R'Albin]

The Sun
No quotes


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsgi2ribsQ1r3pcbso1_400.gif

"If I could have any power, I'd be bull**** man" :hilarious

[Ultrabee1-0]

think my tweets have paid of then:thumbsup:
really need the lad signed up at least if we have mcpake there hanlon will be fine and just build on the spine of the team!!
he is a must tbh if break the bank for him and tbh 100k isn't even breaking the bank get the check book oot rod!

[Cameron1875]

"If I could have any power, I'd be bull**** man" :hilarious

:thumbsup:What a great series. Anyway if we don't sign Mcpake then we might aswell pack it all in.

[Cabbage East]

Nice quotes.

[The Falcon]

If we can't sign this guy up we might aswell pack it in.

Here's a guy who's passionate about the club, wears his heart on his sleeve, puts his body on the line, risks damaging his back week in week out for us, shows leadership qualities, was our captain for the 2nd part of the season, wins about 95% of his aerial challenges, is genuinely a cracking defender and (according to the sun albeit!) is willing to take a cut in wages to sign for us.

If we don't sign him, the board can GTF as far as I'm concerned because the lack of ambition will destroy this club.

Being a cynic I believe he will sign for whoever offers him the most money. As others have pointed out none of these stories carry any quotes from the man himself so I would take them with a pinch of salt.

[marinello59]

If we can't sign this guy up we might aswell pack it in.

Here's a guy who's passionate about the club, wears his heart on his sleeve, puts his body on the line, risks damaging his back week in week out for us, shows leadership qualities, was our captain for the 2nd part of the season, wins about 95% of his aerial challenges, is genuinely a cracking defender and (according to the sun albeit!) is willing to take a cut in wages to sign for us.

If we don't sign him, the board can GTF as far as I'm concerned because the lack of ambition will destroy this club.

If he is offered a much bigger pay packet elsewhere he will be just as passionate about that club. He's a pro trying to get the best deal he can. Using us to put pressure on our board is a very good tactic. Nowt wrong with that though.

[Wotherspiniesta]

Maybe its just in his character to be passionate about football, but he certainly speaks highly of the club and the fans on twitter.

Last season his profile pic was him in a Hibs top. He changed it when the season ended to one of him and his wife....Now he's changed it back to him wearing a Hibs top

#justsaying

[lucky]

On Twitter he was asked if his signing was complete, he replied he wished

[carnoustiehibee]

On Twitter he was asked if his signing was complete, he replied he wished

Is that not in reference to the stadium he put in a photo? (which I think is Ajax but dono)

[Sumner]

If he is not signed it's a damning indictment of the state of Hibernian, and the ambitions of the board.
A good player, one of the very few last season, and it's going to take £100k to sign him. If it doesn't happen, if that lack of reflective appeasement is not given to the support, why should the board expect the supporter to return their money and attend week in week out? Oh, wait .. a pile of ***** about all being in it together? Yeah sure, that will work.. get typing upstairs.

[Fergus52]

Seen it posted on here that he is McPake's agent.

if that's true then does anyone think it could hinder the chances of him signing for us?

[bingo70]

No, I think he'd be professional and get the best deal possible for his client, if mcpake even had an inclination his agent had another agent I expect he'd bin him and get another one.

[The_Sauz]

I thought is agent was Stellar football Ltd :confused:

update...Just found out that Preston is with that group!

[RickyS]

Hibernian have started negotiations with Coventry City to sign defender James McPake on a permanent deal.

McPake impressed Hibs manager Pat Fenlon during his recent loan spell at Easter Road and was made skipper of the team.

The 27-year-old also caught the attention of Northern Ireland boss Michael O'Neill, who has included the Scottish-born player in his squad to play in Holland on Saturday night.

Coventry director Steve Waggott confirmed the Leith club have been in touch and he expects further discussions to take place.

Waggott said: "We've had talks with Hibs about James. It's still up in the air at the moment but they made him captain so I am sure they will sort something out."

The Sky Blues are certain to trim their squad next term following the club's relegation to League One.

[The_Sauz]

Allan Preston (born 16 August 1969 in Leith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leith), Edinburgh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh)) is a retired Scottish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland) professional footballer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_%28soccer%29) and manager. He is currently a radio sports pundit for BBC Scotland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Scotland).

Preston, who predominantly played at left-back (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_%28association_football%29#Full_back), began his career as a 15-year-old with Dundee United (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dundee_United_F.C.) in 1985. After spending eight years at Tannadice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tannadice), he signed for Hearts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Midlothian_F.C.), the team he supported as a boy :jamboak:but after only one season in Edinburgh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh) :violin: he joined St. Johnstone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Johnstone_F.C.). It was in Perth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perth,_Scotland) that he played the most consistent football of his career. :LOL:


Could explain why he hates us :agree:

[TheEastTerrace]

Said the same thing when Gordon Smith was an agent and pundit on BBC - is this not a conflict of interest? Are these guys objective if the topic of one of their clients comes up?

[hopefulhibby]

Allan Preston (born 16 August 1969 in Leith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leith), Edinburgh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh)) is a retired Scottish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland) professional footballer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_(soccer)) and manager. He is currently a radio sports pundit for BBC Scotland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Scotland).

Preston, who predominantly played at left-back (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_(association_football)#Full_back), began his career as a 15-year-old with Dundee United (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dundee_United_F.C.) in 1985. After spending eight years at Tannadice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tannadice), he signed for Hearts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Midlothian_F.C.), the team he supported as a boy :jamboak:but after only one season in Edinburgh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh) :violin: he joined St. Johnstone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Johnstone_F.C.). It was in Perth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perth,_Scotland) that he played the most consistent football of his career. :LOL:


Could explain why he hates us :agree:
Is next season going to be defined by the signing of Mc Pake, what happens if we don't sign him??

[The Falcon]

Is next season going to be defined by the signing of Mc Pake, what happens if we don't sign him??


No one will die.

[Billychaotic182]

On sky sports news that we are closing in on him. Let's hope he is there on the 9th as the model for our new kit

[snooky]

No one will die.

Eh, you might want to check with the Samaritans first.

[muzzhfc]

as much as i want us to sign mcpake, i think that if we dont get him, then we need to accept it and trust pat to get on and sign a good solid replacement. the 100k that we were going to use to sign him could be used on wages or another player. i think one of the main reasons we want mcpake so badly is he is proven with us. its not someone who we are going on wikipedia or football manager (ffs) and relying on those verdicts

[The Falcon]

Eh, you might want to check with the Samaritans first.


Good point.

[hopefulhibby]

No one will die.
Exactly, but the way some posters are going on you would think next season was sorted if we sign him

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Hibernian have started negotiations with Coventry City to sign defender James McPake on a permanent deal.

McPake impressed Hibs manager Pat Fenlon during his recent loan spell at Easter Road and was made skipper of the team.

The 27-year-old also caught the attention of Northern Ireland boss Michael O'Neill, who has included the Scottish-born player in his squad to play in Holland on Saturday night.

Coventry director Steve Waggott confirmed the Leith club have been in touch and he expects further discussions to take place.

Waggott said: "We've had talks with Hibs about James. It's still up in the air at the moment but they made him captain so I am sure they will sort something out."

The Sky Blues are certain to trim their squad next term following the club's relegation to League One.

Well we know just exactly what's to be done here, god help Petrie if he doesn't follow this through by slamming the biscuit tin shut, and if he signs for another SPL because of it then I will and thousands of other supporters be raging!

[SouthMoroccoStu]

On sky sports news that we are closing in on him. Let's hope he is there on the 9th as the model for our new kit

Sounds positive - let's get it done

[hopefulhibby]

Well we know just exactly what's to be done here, god help Petrie if he doesn't follow this through by slamming the biscuit tin shut, and if he signs for another SPL because of it then I will and thousands of other supporters be raging!
As posted, no one will die but it would be disappointing if he goes to another SPL club, what would you think of him if he went to another SPL club?

[Famous5forever]

Well we know just exactly what's to be done here, god help Petrie if he doesn't follow this through by slamming the biscuit tin shut, and if he signs for another SPL because of it then I will and thousands of other supporters be raging!

The problem is Petrie he just cant help himself this deal should have been done and dusted long before now if we lose him due to Petries Pennypinching id be very unhappy especially if he signs for another SPL Club.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Can anyone tell me why as a public broadcaster the BBC employ a number of agents as pundits? Surely a conflict of interest?

[Kaiser1962]

The problem is Petrie he just cant help himself this deal should have been done and dusted long before now if we lose him due to Petries Pennypinching id be very unhappy especially if he signs for another SPL Club.

We spend more than we bring in. We might spend it badly but spend it we do. I dont see how that is "pennypinching"

[hopefulhibby]

The problem is Petrie he just cant help himself this deal should have been done and dusted long before now if we lose him due to Petries Pennypinching id be very unhappy especially if he signs for another SPL Club.
Maybe the concern is his injury record, the last thing we need is a player on a 3yr deal and rarely playing

[blackpoolhibs]

Maybe the concern is his injury record, the last thing we need is a player on a 3yr deal and rarely playing

:agree: Thats the one worry with McPake, we have suffered with Murray, Galbraith and Thornhill recently hardly playing on decent contracts.

[Diclonius]

Maybe the concern is his injury record, the last thing we need is a player on a 3yr deal and rarely playing

I'd rather sign a proven centre back with an injury problem on a three year deal than sign our usual huddy on a two year deal - most of that deal spent costing us points or sitting on the bench. Case in point - O'Hanlon.

[Ray_]

We spend more than we bring in. We might spend it badly but spend it we do. I dont see how that is "pennypinching"

I suppose the term could have originated from when little money was made available & the the standard of the team plummeted to the extent the income dried up dramatically. Now I suppose the correct term to have been used would have been sheer incompetence, considering that is the reason we got to be in the position we are.

[hopefulhibby]

I'd rather sign a proven centre back with an injury problem on a three year deal than sign our usual huddy on a two year deal - most of that deal spent costing us points or sitting on the bench. Case in point - O'Hanlon.
If we sign him on a 3yr deal and he is out a lot that means a lot of wages is tied up an we cant sign anyone else, this is what PF is up against, i think its a gamble to sign him on a 3yr and i dont think anyone else will give him a 3yr, his agent may be holding us to ransom because he was so popular with the fans, but there is a bigger picture

[snooky]

Out of the whole squad last year, while on park, he looked the least likely candidate to be playing with a dodgy back.
IMO, likes.

[Baker9]

If we sign him on a 3yr deal and he is out a lot that means a lot of wages is tied up an we cant sign anyone else, this is what PF is up against, i think its a gamble to sign him on a 3yr and i dont think anyone else will give him a 3yr, his agent may be holding us to ransom because he was so popular with the fans, but there is a bigger picture

I think there is a real danger of both the agent and Coventry holding us to ransom. They will be perfectly aware of how desperate we appear to be to sign him and the resultant pressure that puts on our board to get the deal done. Its a strong bargaining position for them. With Rod's intransigence we could be in for a disappointment.

[Famous5forever]

Maybe the concern is his injury record, the last thing we need is a player on a 3yr deal and rarely playing


Fair point one which i never took into consideration and i guess he would be wanting a long term contract on chunky wages however he is a proven winner and has been great Petrie on this occasion should swallow his pride and pay the coin.

[VickMackie]

Exactly, but the way some posters are going on you would think next season was sorted if we sign him

It'll be a giant step forward from where we are now. Tried and tested which will give us confidence instead of potentially being landed with pish.

[DH1875]

I think there is a real danger of both the agent and Coventry holding us to ransom. They will be perfectly aware of how desperate we appear to be to sign him and the resultant pressure that puts on our board to get the deal done. Its a strong bargaining position for them. With Rod's intransigence we could be in for a disappointment.

Coventry can't hold us to ransom as the deal was done before he came. Quite luckily I'd say because instead of looking at £100k we could have been looking at around £250k. As for Preston, I think he's been quite open regarding McPake. He was on the radio a couple of weeks ago saying he drove McPake down the road after the Aberdeen game and that McPake was raving about us and wanted to stay. At the time they were hoping to get the deal done asap but we hadn't been in contact yet.

[Beefster]

We spend more than we bring in. We might spend it badly but spend it we do. I dont see how that is "pennypinching"

Or, we don't attract enough income to cover our costs.

One suggests the Board are doing their job, the other suggests that they're not.

[Kaiser1962]

I suppose the term could have originated from when little money was made available & the the standard of the team plummeted to the extent the income dried up dramatically. Now I suppose the correct term to have been used would have been sheer incompetence, considering that is the reason we got to be in the position we are.

So when we had Sauzee, Latapy and co we made lots of money did we?

[Kaiser1962]

Or, we don't attract enough income to cover our costs.

One suggests the Board are doing their job, the other suggests that they're not.

Thats basically it. Without selling players we have only done it a couple of times in the last twenty years. And it needed arguably the most successful cup runs in Hibernians history to do it.

[Ray_]

So when we had Sauzee, Latapy and co we made lots of money did we?

And who's fault was that?

The inability to cash in on this team spoke volumes about the capability of a board that ran up 18M debt. A bulk of the cash wasn't being spent on Sauzee & Latapy and the rest of the first team, but the other forty odd also ran's who were also on the pay role.

The board were too busy alienating themselves from the fan base, with distrust at epidemic levels, to cash in like they did during TM's couple of years.

Your right, a total wasted opportunity and yet another example where this board cost the club bundles plus the alienation which carried on and ultimately saw "outside consultants" brought in to repair the fractions. It is totally incomprehensible that any company could alienate their customer base to that sort of level & they are in grave danger of repeating it.

[ekhibee]

Whether we spend more than we bring in or not, we are now in the position that we are going to need to spend more. Season ticket sales will be down, so that means other sources of revenue. I don't know if that means Farmer digging into his pockets, but correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think he's ever done that for buying players, so other sources might be needed. And to me the reason we have spent more than we bring in is because season ticket sales and pay-at-the-gate have dropped as result of a **** team for the last 2 years. It looks like for this season Hibs will have to take a gamble and actually spend more money, at the very least until good enough young players are coming through the ranks. If there aren't any players coming through from the younger players you have to wonder just what benefit the training centre and the training staff there have been, because there has been no noticeable difference in the performances of the 1st team that I've noticed, only the under 19's seemed to have made the most of the facilities.

[Kaiser1962]

If "inability to cash in" was unique to Hibs then you would have a valid point. If every other club was making lots of money and we werent then, again , your point would be valid. But they're not. Every club is losing a lot of money so are they all useless? Or is it something else perhaps?

Some of the most successful businessmen in Scotland cant make football work, sometimes at great personal cost, yet folk on this message board are telling them what a piece of piss it is. That the "most successful club in the world" are hanging on to their existence by their fingernails should tell us there is something fundamentaly wrong with the set up of the game in Scotland.




And who's fault was that?

The inability to cash in on this team spoke volumes about the capability of a board that ran up 18M debt. A bulk of the cash wasn't being spent on Sauzee & Latapy and the rest of the first team, but the other forty odd also ran's that were also on the pay role.

The board were too busy alienating themselves from the fan base, with distrust at epidemic levels, to cash in like they did during TM's couple of years.

Your right, a total wasted opportunity and yet another example where this board cost the club bundles plus the alienation which carried on and ultimately saw "outside consultants" brought in to repair the fractions. It is totally incomprehensible that any company could alienate their customer base to that sort of level & they are in grave danger of repeating it.

[Onion]

I think there is a real danger of both the agent and Coventry holding us to ransom. They will be perfectly aware of how desperate we appear to be to sign him and the resultant pressure that puts on our board to get the deal done. Its a strong bargaining position for them. With Rod's intransigence we could be in for a disappointment.

The Board's mismanagement has made us desperate, so only ourselves to blame. Hibs are not in s strong bargaining position with anyone at the mo, and we can only hope that Petrie's ego doesn't get in the way. Changed days to when he could call all the shots with a rich vein of young, valuable players on the books and a decent balance sheet. Now he just has to suck it up, pay the inflated prices and be done with it.

[Ray_]

If "inability to cash in" was unique to Hibs then you would have a valid point. If every other club was making lots of money and we werent then, again , your point would be valid. But they're not. Every club is losing a lot of money so are they all useless? Or is it something else perhaps?

Some of the most successful businessmen in Scotland cant make football work, sometimes at great personal cost, yet folk on this message board are telling them what a piece of piss it is. That the "most successful club in the world" are hanging on to their existence by their fingernails should tell us there is something fundamentaly wrong with the set up of the game in Scotland.


Well that totally contradicts the fact that record amounts of income was being acquired by the club through admission [season ticket & walk up], merchandising & hospitality, in TM's era, when the board and fans were together [SUABC].

[Onion]

... and any club doing well next season (with Huns out of the way) has a realistic chance of finishing 2nd in the SPL and getting a spot in the League and SC Finals - so if there was a time to invest, now's as good as any we've seen in YEARS.

[KeithTheHibby]

Notice that McPake has changed his twitter profile pic back to him playing for Hibs. Could be something, could be nothing...

[Kaiser1962]

Well that totally contradicts the fact that record amounts of income was being acquired by the club through admission [season ticket & walk up], merchandising & hospitality, in TM's era, when the board and fans were together [SUABC].


How does it? The team had the most successful cup campaigns in the history of the club which generated the extra income, not to mention record player sales. Even then though we could not match the wages that were on offer elsewhere.

[Northernhibee]

Notice that McPake has changed his twitter profile pic back to him playing for Hibs. Could be something, could be nothing...

:worried::pray: