And you thought Scotland had bad Referees......

[Mikeystewart]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sMr1g9cC68g

I think it is Liam Miller who is judged to have committed the foul.

[Peevemor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sMr1g9cC68g

I think it is Liam Miller who is judged to have committed the foul.

I'd say that's a good decision. If you watch the replay at 1:26, there's contact which puts the striker off balance - thus the fresh-air swipe.

[Mikeystewart]

I'd say that's a good decision. If you watch the replay at 1:26, there's contact which puts the striker off balance - thus the fresh-air swipe.

I would agree from the angle of 1:26 it looks as if miller gets a touch but from every other its surely obvious that he doesn't, He flicks his foot out but doesn't make contact.

[Peevemor]

I would agree from the angle of 1:26 it looks as if miller gets a touch but from every other its surely obvious that he doesn't, He flicks his foot out but doesn't make contact.

Possibly, but it in any case you see decisions worse than that every week in the SPL.

[Since90+2]

From first viewing it looks like a pen but with replays I think the boy just has a fresh air swing.

For anyone living down under what standard is the A League compared to the SPL?

[Mikeystewart]

Possibly, but it in any case you see decisions worse than that every week in the SPL.

It was a Cup Final, I don't think either Hibs or Hearts fans would forget a decision like that any time soon if it cost them the cup.

The only decision this season I've seen as bad as that was Aluko's dive against St.Mirren. So I don't know how you can say there are worse decisions made in the SPL.

[Newry Hibs]

I have sympathy for referees in this type of incident. I think the tread should be called 'And you thought Scotland had diving, cheating players ...'.

Even after a few angles there is debate here about whether there was contact or not. I don't know how footballers manage to do their Christmas shopping in busy places - they would be diving all over the place with the 'contact'.

Personally I would hammer any cheat with a 10 game ban and sometimes I'm glad some penalties aren't given, when there is too much made of the tackle. If players didn't cheat, the referees would make better decisions.

Note 1 - I am not a referee.
Note 2 - All the above moral high horsing can happily be forgotten if it goes the right way on May 19th.

[JE89]

It was a Cup Final, I don't think either Hibs or Hearts fans would forget a decision like that any time soon if it cost them the cup.

The only decision this season I've seen as bad as that was Aluko's dive against St.Mirren. So I don't know how you can say there are worse decisions made in the SPL.

:agree: If the Yams or us got that there would be a riot at Hampden.

It was a cup final but is the equivalent of winning the league over here I think (correct my if I'm wrong). But you compete in the league to get into the Finals series which culminates in the Grand Final - the game from the footage. Shocking decision at such a crucial stage in the game/season.

[Onceinawhile]

Reminds me of mickey weir vs dunfermline tbh

[Hibercelona]

Reminds me of mickey weir vs dunfermline tbh

Was thinking that myself.

Stonewaller. :wink:

In all seriousness though, Miller shouldn't have stuck his foot out like that anyway, you always run the risk of giving away a pen for that, even if no contact is made.

Still.... celebrating a penalty win is a bit cringe worthy.

[Steve-O]

From first viewing it looks like a pen but with replays I think the boy just has a fresh air swing.

For anyone living down under what standard is the A League compared to the SPL?

It's a bit slower, but that is not a bad thing tbh. I think in general the standard is fairly even. Miller has done ok, Sutton was not great, Mehmet ended up being decent. Fairly similar.

As for the decision, was watching it live and thought it was a stonewaller at first.

[Steve-O]

Was thinking that myself.

Stonewaller. :wink:

In all seriousness though, Miller shouldn't have stuck his foot out like that anyway, you always run the risk of giving away a pen for that, even if no contact is made.

Still.... celebrating a penalty win is a bit cringe worthy.

Was the 97th minute of the Grand Final...hence the over exuberant celebrations! The same player had just equalised 10 minutes earlier as well.

[frazeHFC]

Haha wtf, never a foul!

[Hibercelona]

Was the 97th minute of the Grand Final...hence the over exuberant celebrations! The same player had just equalised 10 minutes earlier as well.

I understand that.

But imagine the penalty wasn't converted, then he would have looked like a right numpty.

Should save the celebration until after, never before.

[Sean1875]

Was thinking that myself.

Stonewaller. :wink:

In all seriousness though, Miller shouldn't have stuck his foot out like that anyway, you always run the risk of giving away a pen for that, even if no contact is made.

Still.... celebrating a penalty win is a bit cringe worthy.


So if we get a 94th minute penalty in the SC final to win it, im sure you'll be nice and calm then? :greengrin

[CmoantheHibs]

So if we get a 94th minute penalty in the SC final to win it, im sure you'll be nice and calm then? :greengrin

:greengrinI dont think so.Id take it though even if it was as dodgy as that one.

[Bristolhibby]

So if we get a 94th minute penalty in the SC final to win it, im sure you'll be nice and calm then? :greengrin

I would sell some body parts further to happen.

J

[The Green Goblin]

The ref had what, 1....2 seconds to make that call, whereas we judge it on as many slowmo replays as we like. I'm not commenting here on whether he got it right, but he could have consulted with his linesman.....or, here's a crazy thought, if tv replays were allowed, he could have taken all of 20 seconds to watch it again himself and make a more informed decision, whatever it ended up being.

[Pretty Boy]

Looked a penalty at full speed to me.

Obviously with the benefit of about 20 replays we can all see it wasn't but from where the ref was, the way Miller hangs his foot out and the way the guys balance goes then I can see why its given.

As said above, not that dissimilar from Mickey Weir on the Skol Cup Final.

[snooky]

While I think he got the call wrong, I don't blame the ref as it looked like a stonewaller at first glance.

Even after several views, I'm not 100% certain that LM didn't make contact.
If he didn't though, the disgusting part is the player claiming for it after he fell.

I'm no referee fan however, the blatant cheating by players these days is totally abhorent and until THEY, as "professionals" clean up their act, we shouldn't slag off refs for 'bad' decisions like the one in this vid.