Football 'Experts'

[Dashing Bob S]

I notice that the BBC's football 'expert' (a guy I've never heard of before and who's name I've forgotten already by the time it took me to switch from BBC Football to Hibs.net) has decided that it's between Mourhinio and Guardiola to be the next manager of Chelsea.

Really?

This guy obviously doesn't know a single thing about football, if he seriously believes that Guardiola would leave Barca to join Chelsea. It makes me wonder; is it just a case of English Premiership pornography myopia at its most demented and deluded, or do they write that guff knowingly to pull in armchair clowns, in much the same way the talk radio shows here cater for ******s who want to slaver push about the OF all day?

[hibsbollah]

The only football 'expert' i have much time for is Gary Richardson, perhaps because he lets the listener/viewer know that although he speaks intelligently about football, tactics and players across different leagues, its all a bit of a laugh and ultimately unimportant. He's just as likely to be making double entendres about Sol Campbell liking to keep it tight at the back than spouting endless OPTA stats and making golf club jokes about colleagues' funny ties, as the Sky boys prefer to do.

An intelligent commentator on scottish football who doesnt take himself or his subject too seriously. Is it too much to ask?

[Mikeystewart]

I notice that the BBC's football 'expert' (a guy I've never heard of before and who's name I've forgotten already by the time it took me to switch from BBC Football to Hibs.net) has decided that it's between Mourhinio and Guardiola to be the next manager of Chelsea.

Really?

This guy obviously doesn't know a single thing about football, if he seriously believes that Guardiola would leave Barca to join Chelsea. It makes me wonder; is it just a case of English Premiership pornography myopia at its most demented and deluded, or do they write that guff knowingly to pull in armchair clowns, in much the same way the talk radio shows here cater for ******s who want to slaver push about the OF all day?

To be fair, Gaurdiola has been saying for a while he would consider a move (some say its a tactic by pep to keep his players on their toes), and where else would he go, and more importantly who else could afford him. I would think Chelsea or Arsenal is within the realms of possibility depending on Wenger deciding to fly the coup.

I would agree that the English press get a little too starry eyed about there own league, but its where all the money is at, and its sad to say that seems to be the driving force behind the decisions made by players managers etc.

But you never know, Di Matteo might do a good job over the remaining 11 games and get the job for himself. He comes across as a lot more approachable and "friendlier", than AVB the players might react to that.

EDIT: he is also on a rolling contract so he could go anywhere for free in the summer.

Obviously I am no expert, just my perceived observations

[CallumLaidlaw]

Yeah guardiola said last week that he wasn't sure if he would stay on in the summer. He needs to be careful tho. At Barca he is a man that needs to fit with their football philosophy. I struggle to think of too many barca managers that have been a roaring success elsewhere

[Cabbage East]

Why on earth would a manager at a top club in Spain leave to go to England :faf:

[Mikeystewart]

Why on earth would a manager at a top club in Spain leave to go to England :faf:

Take the intensity of the old firm and the media furore that surrounds them, times that by 10, that's what its like being a manager of the top 2 in Spain. Guardiola or Murinho could do an old firm job in there sleep, the pressure they are both under every second of the day is incomprehensible, no wonder after a few years it starts to take its toll, both Guardiloa and Murinho look like they have aged 10 years in the time they have been in the job.

[Mikeystewart]

Yeah guardiola said last week that he wasn't sure if he would stay on in the summer. He needs to be careful tho. At Barca he is a man that needs to fit with their football philosophy. I struggle to think of too many barca managers that have been a roaring success elsewhere

I know its a bit of a long punt but Bobby Robson wasn't Half bad in his other jobs. Though I don't think he won the League with barca

[Pretty Boy]

Yeah guardiola said last week that he wasn't sure if he would stay on in the summer. He needs to be careful tho. At Barca he is a man that needs to fit with their football philosophy. I struggle to think of too many barca managers that have been a roaring success elsewhere

Louis Van Gaal?

3 leagues, UEFA Cup and Champions League with Ajax.

2 Leagues and a Copa del Rey with Barca.

Dutch league with AZ.

German League, German Cup and Champions League final with Bayern.

[JimBHibees]

Yeah guardiola said last week that he wasn't sure if he would stay on in the summer. He needs to be careful tho. At Barca he is a man that needs to fit with their football philosophy. I struggle to think of too many barca managers that have been a roaring success elsewhere

Cruyff, Van Gall, Robson ?

[CallumLaidlaw]

Louis Van Gaal?

3 leagues, UEFA Cup and Champions League with Ajax.

2 Leagues and a Copa del Rey with Barca.

Dutch league with AZ.

German League, German Cup and Champions League final with Bayern.

Yip him and Robson are good shouts. As I said I can't think of many.

How have -

Llorenc Serra Ferrer
Carles Rexach
Radomir Antic
Frank Rijkaard

Done since leaving Barca?

[basehibby]

I notice that the BBC's football 'expert' (a guy I've never heard of before and who's name I've forgotten already by the time it took me to switch from BBC Football to Hibs.net) has decided that it's between Mourhinio and Guardiola to be the next manager of Chelsea.

Really?

This guy obviously doesn't know a single thing about football, if he seriously believes that Guardiola would leave Barca to join Chelsea. It makes me wonder; is it just a case of English Premiership pornography myopia at its most demented and deluded, or do they write that guff knowingly to pull in armchair clowns, in much the same way the talk radio shows here cater for ******s who want to slaver push about the OF all day?

:agree: The Chelsea job is a massive step down from either of the Spanish giants with the possible exception of the wages on offer. I'd be amazed if either of them made that move as it would merely identify them as unambitious contract whores. I think a lot of English journos are massively deluded about the stature of their league and the clubs within it on the world stage. A bit like with their national team really.

[Future17]

I notice that the BBC's football 'expert' (a guy I've never heard of before and who's name I've forgotten already by the time it took me to switch from BBC Football to Hibs.net) has decided that it's between Mourhinio and Guardiola to be the next manager of Chelsea.

Really?

This guy obviously doesn't know a single thing about football, if he seriously believes that Guardiola would leave Barca to join Chelsea. It makes me wonder; is it just a case of English Premiership pornography myopia at its most demented and deluded, or do they write that guff knowingly to pull in armchair clowns, in much the same way the talk radio shows here cater for ******s who want to slaver push about the OF all day?

There has been a lot of chat, for many months, about Guardiola potentially leaving Barcelona in the summer. If that happens, it is likely he will look for a job elsewhere at one of Europe's top clubs. Like it or not, Chelsea are one of Europe's top clubs.

There are, of course, several reasons why Guardiola may not want to join Chelsea. However, there are many other reasons why he would want to.

If the article you're referring to is Phil McNulty's, his comment on Guardiola amounts to:

"Another name exercising Abramovich's mind will be Barcelona's Pep Guardiola, currently considering whether to agree an extension to his contract at the Nou Camp.

Is it a serious possibility, however, that he would leave the dreamland he has created in Catalonia with players such as Messi, Xavi and Iniesta - and the club that has stamped its philosophy through his veins - for the dysfunctional beast that is Chelsea?"

That's not quite how you've summarised it in your post it it DBS? Or have you read between the lines in a way that "armchair clowns" and "******s" are incapable of doing?

All in all, I'm not quite sure what your post is all about. :confused:

[Dashing Bob S]

There has been a lot of chat, for many months, about Guardiola potentially leaving Barcelona in the summer. If that happens, it is likely he will look for a job elsewhere at one of Europe's top clubs. Like it or not, Chelsea are one of Europe's top clubs.

There are, of course, several reasons why Guardiola may not want to join Chelsea. However, there are many other reasons why he would want to.

If the article you're referring to is Phil McNulty's, his comment on Guardiola amounts to:

"Another name exercising Abramovich's mind will be Barcelona's Pep Guardiola, currently considering whether to agree an extension to his contract at the Nou Camp.

Is it a serious possibility, however, that he would leave the dreamland he has created in Catalonia with players such as Messi, Xavi and Iniesta - and the club that has stamped its philosophy through his veins - for the dysfunctional beast that is Chelsea?"

That's not quite how you've summarised it in your post it it DBS? Or have you read between the lines in a way that "armchair clowns" and "******s" are incapable of doing?

All in all, I'm not quite sure what your post is all about. :confused:

Shut up! I'm not talking to you!

Thread ruined, day destroyed, life crumbling.

Hope you're pleased with yourself.

[Future17]

Yip him and Robson are good shouts. As I said I can't think of many.

How have -

Llorenc Serra Ferrer
Carles Rexach
Radomir Antic
Frank Rijkaard

Done since leaving Barca?

They are a pretty mixed bag, but I think the key difference is that Guardiola was appointed manager of Barcelona at a good time. He inherited a good squad, he was a club legend, the club was strong financially and the squad included some of the best players in the world in their respective positions. As for those listed above:

Ferrer - Didn't last long as coach, but generally disliked by Barca supporters. However, they were going through a troubled spell at the time of his appointment. I can't recall him managing elsewhere after Barca.

Rexach - Again, not well liked amongst Barca supporters (although mainly for reasons other than his coaching abilities). Did technically win La Liga, but I think he was only in charge of the team for the final 2 months of the season having taken over from an ill Cruyff. I think he is now a scout with Barca and I'm 95% certain he is the guy credited for discovering Messi.

Antic - Highly thought of by Barca supporters to this day, mainly because they consider he laid the groundwork for their current success. It's particularly impressive that they speak highly of him considering his previous association with Real and Athletico Madrid. He won trophies with both of those clubs which, given the state they were in when he arrived, was very impressive. I think he went on to manage a random selection of international teams.

Rijkaard - What to say? I think he's a nightmare (and that's coming from an AC Milan fan), but Barca fans have a split opinion on him. Actually did well (results wise) with Holland before getting Sparta(?) relegated in his homeland. His appointment as Barca manager was a surprise to some, but he took over at a difficult time. He could easily have been sacked early in his reign, but he got support from Laporta and ended up winning some serious silverware after the club had endured several barren years. His record since then, however, is laughable.

[Future17]

Shut up! I'm not talking to you!

Thread ruined, day destroyed, life crumbling.

Hope you're pleased with yourself.

Delighted! :greengrin

[Dashing Bob S]

Delighted! :greengrin

In other words, yes, it was a s-h-i-t-e thread. My mind was elsewhere and I had a bee in my bonnet, badly expressed, about EPL myopia. You were right to pull me up about the rambling, confused nature of it all.

[leithsansiro]

In other words, yes, it was a s-h-i-t-e thread. My mind was elsewhere and I had a bee in my bonnet, badly expressed, about EPL myopia. You were right to pull me up about the rambling, confused nature of it all.

The English-centric point still stands though. I hate it when "experts" can't see past the end of the English channel. Highly amusing when Napoli took apart Chelsea, loads of folk down south were all saying they were also-rans etc, totally discrediting Cavani and his teammates on the basis they dared not to grace the Premier League

[hfc rd]

Jose and Pep won't take that job. The pair of them manage the two best clubs in the world and do you think they are going to come and manage the 5th best team in England?