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CropleyWasGod
12-06-2018, 01:52 PM
No comprende

I was suggesting that , on past form, the only way they could get £5m worth of defenders would be to pay £20m.

(See also.. Alves, B.)

:greengrin

AltheHibby
12-06-2018, 06:53 PM
https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/when-prehistoric-man-lived-around-glasgow-1-4752856

I haven't read the story, but I think it's related to Oldco? 🤔

JeMeSouviens
13-06-2018, 10:16 AM
Be afraid Huns, there's a storm comin' ... (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/storm-hector-officially-named-met-12695106) :devil:

Alan62
13-06-2018, 11:26 AM
Be afraid Huns, there's a storm comin' ... (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/storm-hector-officially-named-met-12695106) :devil:

Same storm that's been coming for 1389 pages or a new one that nobody has mentioned yet?

JeMeSouviens
13-06-2018, 11:29 AM
Same storm that's been coming for 1389 pages or a new one that nobody has mentioned yet?

Silly joke - the Met Office have named the latest storm heading to the UK, "Storm Hector".

Alan62
13-06-2018, 11:40 AM
Silly joke - the Met Office have named the latest storm heading to the UK, "Storm Hector".

:greengrin

h185forever
13-06-2018, 02:18 PM
Where are they Ggttin the funds to pay fir all these transfers ?.....even if it’s signing on fees and wages only. I thought they were skint.

I’d like to think that the SPFL and or the SFA would be monitoring them closely in case of any shenanigans ......but I keep forgetting the S in both stands for Strathclyde.

sleeping giant
13-06-2018, 02:20 PM
Where are they Ggttin the funds to pay fir all these transfers ?.....even if it’s signing on fees and wages only. I thought they were skint.

I’d like to think that the SPFL and or the SFA would be monitoring them closely in case of any shenanigans ......but I keep forgetting the S in both stands for Strathclyde.

They have 40000 fans buying season tickets at around £450 a pop.
That works out at .........a lot :-)

h185forever
13-06-2018, 02:30 PM
They have 40000 fans buying season tickets at around £450 a pop.
That works out at .........a lot :-)


Agreed but but I keep reading that they are barely able to keep the lights on, hence the new share issue, so it still doesn’t add up

Joe6-2
13-06-2018, 02:31 PM
I was already pig sick with the coverage Sky give the the Huns, but it’s going to be a hundred times worse with SG there!

Billy Whizz
13-06-2018, 02:35 PM
I was already pig sick with the coverage Sky give the the Huns, but it’s going to be a hundred times worse with SG there!

I’ll really enjoy all the coverage if they start the season badly

Ozyhibby
13-06-2018, 02:36 PM
Agreed but but I keep reading that they are barely able to keep the lights on, hence the new share issue, so it still doesn’t add up

This time of year they have money. It’s usually round about Oct/Nov they run out.


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sleeping giant
13-06-2018, 03:46 PM
I’ll really enjoy all the coverage if they start the season badly

It will be marvellous if they have a crap start to the season :agree:

Joe6-2
13-06-2018, 04:06 PM
I’ll really enjoy all the coverage if they start the season badly

That will be good 😀

Radium
13-06-2018, 04:07 PM
They have 40000 fans buying season tickets at around £450 a pop.
That works out at .........a lot :-)

... minus VAT. Feel that the one thing that this thread has given me is a totally unrealistic belief in my knowledge of corporate tax 🤪


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CropleyWasGod
13-06-2018, 04:09 PM
... minus VAT. Feel that the one thing that this thread has given me is a totally unrealistic belief in my knowledge of corporate tax 🤪


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Dave King wants to talk to you... fancy a job?

Billy Whizz
13-06-2018, 04:12 PM
... minus VAT. Feel that the one thing that this thread has given me is a totally unrealistic belief in my knowledge of corporate tax 🤪


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Or in Rangers case, actually paying it

Radium
13-06-2018, 04:26 PM
Dave King wants to talk to you... fancy a job?

Don’t think there is enough Brasso for me to match his entrepreneurial and business expectations


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Billy Whizz
13-06-2018, 04:28 PM
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/rangers/hmrc-wins-240k-from-rfc-2012-plc-after-big-tax-case-victory-1-4753897

The bit near the bottom. “The taxman is not thought to have received any of the £72m in unpaid tax and interest”

CropleyWasGod
13-06-2018, 04:31 PM
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/rangers/hmrc-wins-240k-from-rfc-2012-plc-after-big-tax-case-victory-1-4753897

Oldco :wink:

Just takes a few quid out of the mouths of the bairns of the face-painter.

Keith_M
13-06-2018, 05:51 PM
Oldco :wink:

Just takes a few quid out of the Bank Accounts of the Liquidators and Lawyers.


True


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CropleyWasGod
13-06-2018, 06:02 PM
True


:wink:They'll still get paid the same. Don't you worry about that. [emoji38]

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HoboHarry
13-06-2018, 06:25 PM
They'll still get paid the same. Don't you worry about that. [emoji38]

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Hey now, you'll have the rabid Sevco hordes tannin yer windaes in........

:greengrin

660
13-06-2018, 07:07 PM
This time of year they have money. It’s usually round about Oct/Nov they run out.


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Just like Oct/nov 2015/16/17. At what point are people meant to pay attention?

Ozyhibby
13-06-2018, 07:23 PM
Just like Oct/nov 2015/16/17. At what point are people meant to pay attention?

In each of those years they secured funding from a director or last year a secured loan from close brothers. They may do so again. Or they may not. Up to you when you want to pay attention.


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660
13-06-2018, 07:41 PM
In each of those years they secured funding from a director or last year a secured loan from close brothers. They may do so again. Or they may not. Up to you when you want to pay attention.


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Incredible developments we never read about on thecelticblog.

Company secures loan....here’s 10 reasons why this could be TERRIBLE for the people.

Still not sure why anyone should be more concerned with hun finances over the finances of other clubs.

Billy Whizz
13-06-2018, 07:42 PM
Incredible developments we never read about on thecelticblog.

Company secures loan....here’s 10 reasons why this could be TERRIBLE for the people.

Still not sure why anyone should be more concerned with hun finances over the finances of other clubs.

£72million reasons

Eyrie
13-06-2018, 07:43 PM
Hey now, you'll have the rabid Sevco hordes tannin yer windaes in........

:greengrin

For any Sevco fans having this read to them, CWG's address is 150 Edmiston Drive, Glasgow.

660
13-06-2018, 07:43 PM
£72million reasons

Where is this figure from?

Ozyhibby
13-06-2018, 07:46 PM
Incredible developments we never read about on thecelticblog.

Company secures loan....here’s 10 reasons why this could be TERRIBLE for the people.

Still not sure why anyone should be more concerned with hun finances over the finances of other clubs.

They are running a deficit which appears to be in breach of UEFA FFP rules. That’s enough to pique my interest.


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Billy Whizz
13-06-2018, 07:47 PM
Where is this figure from?

Read the Scotsman link above

660
13-06-2018, 07:50 PM
They are running a deficit which appears to be in breach of UEFA FFP rules. That’s enough to pique my interest.


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Your interest has been piqued for 5 years. Are there no other clubs in world football horrendously run? Why are the huns so special? This isn’t unique to Scottish football and I think your partisan outlook does more harm than good.

660
13-06-2018, 07:55 PM
Read the Scotsman link above

Not sure how that relates to newco huns

CropleyWasGod
13-06-2018, 08:00 PM
Not sure how that relates to newco huns

When a club is allowed to run up horrendous debts to the public purse, which will almost all remain unpaid, and the new guardians of the club seem to want to continue in a similar manner, of course it's of interest.

It's probably more of interest to most Scottish fans than what's going on at PSG, for example.

Not to everyone, of course, but that's a personal choice.

Ozyhibby
13-06-2018, 08:01 PM
Your interest has been piqued for 5 years. Are there no other clubs in world football horrendously run? Why are the huns so special? This isn’t unique to Scottish football and I think your partisan outlook does more harm than good.

Not sure how my outlook could affect things either way.


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jabis
13-06-2018, 08:02 PM
Your interest has been piqued for 5 years. Are there no other clubs in world football horrendously run? Why are the huns so special? This isn’t unique to Scottish football and I think your partisan outlook does more harm than good.

For hibs fans,when your competitors cheat,it's news.

tamig
13-06-2018, 08:17 PM
Your interest has been piqued for 5 years. Are there no other clubs in world football horrendously run? Why are the huns so special? This isn’t unique to Scottish football and I think your partisan outlook does more harm than good.

Who is his outlook harming like? Strange assertion.

Billy Whizz
13-06-2018, 08:19 PM
Not sure how that relates to newco huns

But they think they are the same club

Shame they won’t admit, would get more respect

HoboHarry
13-06-2018, 10:36 PM
But they think they are the same club

Shame they won’t admit, would get more respect
Also might help if they stopped the absurdity of wearing 5 stars on their jerseys. Even teams like Borussia Dortmund (who have won the thing) have less. As Phil Mac would say - weapons grade stupidity.......

Wedge
14-06-2018, 11:53 AM
So it's storm Hector today. Is Ibrox at risk?

Famous Fiver
14-06-2018, 11:57 AM
Wee tax case?
Big tax case?
Can't read over the whole thread to find out but I take it the tax cases are now settled.
Anyone enlighten me?

Nevertheless I would like to see Hector inflicting some serious damage in Govan

JeMeSouviens
14-06-2018, 11:59 AM
Wee tax case?
Big tax case?
Can't read over the whole thread to find out but I take it the tax cases are now settled.
Anyone enlighten me?

Nevertheless I would like to see Hector inflicting some serious damage in Govan

Those cases died with the Old Huns. Blocking the CVA and thus forcing their liquidation was Hector's revenge.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTr84CUWsAAHT5v.jpg

Bostonhibby
14-06-2018, 12:04 PM
... minus VAT. Feel that the one thing that this thread has given me is a totally unrealistic belief in my knowledge of corporate tax 🤪


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Ozyhibby
16-06-2018, 09:55 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180616/f5ddf69488accd311b49ce2da2530158.jpg

Ignoring the irony for a bit, it’s quite funny their club shop is still selling tax disc holders. It must be a few years now since anyone got a tax disc. They must be a pretty slick operation.


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Bostonhibby
16-06-2018, 10:13 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180616/f5ddf69488accd311b49ce2da2530158.jpg

Ignoring the irony for a bit, it’s quite funny their club shop is still selling tax disc holders. It must be a few years now since anyone got a tax disc. They must be a pretty slick operation.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkRecycling opportunity.

Protective covers for their souvenir replica petrofac winners medals?

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Famous Fiver
16-06-2018, 06:13 PM
Just think of all that plastic that is going to end up in the sea.

All washed up, just like their Scottish Cup aspirations in 2016.

jgl07
16-06-2018, 07:41 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180616/f5ddf69488accd311b49ce2da2530158.jpg

Ignoring the irony for a bit, it’s quite funny their club shop is still selling tax disc holders. It must be a few years now since anyone got a tax disc.

Even longer since the club once known as Rangers ever paid any tax!

Springbank
20-06-2018, 12:09 PM
I see the Takeover Panel have been in court today looking to start bringing Dave King to book for his failure to comply with the ToP ruling.

Here's hoping they score early, let King back in by halftime, allow a Halliday to seemingly nudge the Gers in front, only for a couple of late (but decisive) moments to go the way of the Takeover Panel.

hibees 7062
21-06-2018, 10:31 AM
https://scontent.fman3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35847111_459880337785753_127225843364659200_n.jpg? _nc_cat=0&oh=a6c071faa3f0efda80b5b59a83a11409&oe=5BA99707

CropleyWasGod
21-06-2018, 10:49 AM
https://scontent.fman3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35847111_459880337785753_127225843364659200_n.jpg? _nc_cat=0&oh=a6c071faa3f0efda80b5b59a83a11409&oe=5BA99707

I don't have a Shkupi who they are.

Ozyhibby
26-06-2018, 09:52 AM
Today is the day for the hearing into Rangers fraud with their 2011 Euro license application.
If it wasn’t the SFA it would be a slam dunk guilty but who knows.


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Jack Hackett
26-06-2018, 10:30 AM
Today is the day for the hearing into Rangers fraud with their 2011 Euro license application.
If it wasn’t the SFA it would be a slam dunk guilty but who knows.


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:tsk tsk:

Time to 'move on' or 'draw a line' or summat, dontcha know. Any large rugs available?

chinaman
26-06-2018, 06:28 PM
Even longer since the club once known as Rangers ever paid any tax!

brilliant

Keith_M
26-06-2018, 07:09 PM
Today is the day for the hearing into Rangers fraud with their 2011 Euro license application.
If it wasn’t the SFA it would be a slam dunk guilty but who knows.


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Any news yet?

Ozyhibby
27-06-2018, 03:03 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180627/c2ef07d8de111d06ada7c6b9b6b2af0c.png


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Billy Whizz
27-06-2018, 03:09 PM
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Did they qualify for any of this year’s Cups?

GordonHFC
27-06-2018, 03:35 PM
But they think they are the same club

Shame they won’t admit, would get more respect

I don't think that club could do anything which would earn respect.

CropleyWasGod
27-06-2018, 03:39 PM
Did they qualify for any of this year’s Cups?Same one as us.

Truth is they were feart.

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Ozyhibby
28-06-2018, 10:26 PM
No expense spared at the Sevco training camp.[emoji23]
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HoboHarry
28-06-2018, 10:53 PM
No expense spared at the Sevco training camp.[emoji23]
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180628/45bba188e467297476ad52a3bda98ff2.jpg
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That's not real surely? What are they doing?

Ozyhibby
28-06-2018, 10:55 PM
That's not real surely? What are they doing?

Ice baths apparently.


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HoboHarry
28-06-2018, 10:59 PM
Ice baths apparently.


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Lol, lol and lol again. Biggest and bestest and hugest club in the wurld my erkie........... :faf::faf::faf:

Hibby70
28-06-2018, 11:07 PM
No expense spared at the Sevco training camp.[emoji23]
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180628/45bba188e467297476ad52a3bda98ff2.jpg
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That's just reminded me to take the wheely bin out. Cheers

CentreLine
29-06-2018, 05:46 AM
That's not real surely? What are they doing?

Ice bath is a well recognised method for muscle recovery after exercise. Not a good look but effective apparently. All the top athletes use this method, maybe not in dustbins though.

linlithgowhibbie
29-06-2018, 07:52 PM
Lol, lol and lol again. Biggest and bestest and hugest club in the wurld my erkie........... :faf::faf::faf:

Hibs have two in the home dressing room!:thumbsup:

southsider
30-06-2018, 07:47 AM
Hibs have two in the home dressing room!:thumbsup:
First time I heard about this was in an article about Andy Murray. Seems reasonable to presume he spoke to Hibs about it.

Ozyhibby
30-06-2018, 08:14 AM
First time I heard about this was in an article about Andy Murray. Seems reasonable to presume he spoke to Hibs about it.

Don’t think we would have needed Andy Murray to explain the benefits of ice baths. It’s pretty well known about and we have our own sports science guys.


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Smartie
30-06-2018, 12:11 PM
Surely it's progress that Sevco types are starting to utilise any sort of bath?

You can't expect them to get the hang of it straight away.

PatHead
30-06-2018, 12:15 PM
Today is the day for the hearing into Rangers fraud with their 2011 Euro license application.
If it wasn’t the SFA it would be a slam dunk guilty but who knows.


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Did anything come of this?

Ozyhibby
30-06-2018, 02:38 PM
Did anything come of this?

The hearing went ahead but they have not said what the outcome was. I fancy them to try blame it all on Craig Whyte, nothing to do with Rangers.


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Spike Mandela
30-06-2018, 03:02 PM
The hearing went ahead but they have not said what the outcome was. I fancy them to try blame it all on Craig Whyte, nothing to do with Rangers.


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So much for trasparency at the SFA.😮

Jack Hackett
30-06-2018, 06:14 PM
So much for trasparency at the SFA.😮

Well I can see right through them :greengrin

Ozyhibby
04-07-2018, 03:27 PM
http://www.thetakeoverpanel.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/2018-8.pdf

Takeover panel make their move.


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jacomo
04-07-2018, 03:31 PM
http://www.thetakeoverpanel.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/2018-8.pdf

Takeover panel make their move.


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The Lying King’s appeal for more time has been rejected. Am I right?

Ozyhibby
04-07-2018, 03:37 PM
The Lying King’s appeal for more time has been rejected. Am I right?

Don’t spoil it, make everyone read it.[emoji6][emoji23]


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JeMeSouviens
04-07-2018, 03:39 PM
Don’t spoil it, make everyone read it.[emoji6][emoji23]


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It's more long winded than a "James Forrest" blog. :rolleyes:

Where's the TL;DR? :confused:

ancient hibee
04-07-2018, 03:43 PM
Anderson Strathern must be delighted at getting mixed up in this.

Oscar T Grouch
04-07-2018, 04:11 PM
Well that’s a good number of minutes I’ll never get back!! So basically the lying king has pissed them about a lot and now they’ve had enough and the lying king is in contempt of court? So if he’s in contempt of court and not carrying out the panels instructions he will now be cold shouldered? Is that correct? If so, what implications does it have on the huns and for the SPFL?

Ozyhibby
04-07-2018, 04:40 PM
From that, it looks like they went to court to stop him producing an offer document. Which prob explains why the share offer they talked about a couple of months back never happened.


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ancient hibee
04-07-2018, 04:48 PM
Clearly they explain to him what he has to do and when he doesn’t do it they explain it again.Sooner or later he’ll realise he’s not getting his own way.After all it’s not the football authorities he’s dealing with.Obviously the Panel can see he’s a busted flush who can’t get a bank that anyone has heard of to vouch that he’s got money in the UK.

Ozyhibby
04-07-2018, 06:22 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/44718685?__twitter_impression=true


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Ozyhibby
04-07-2018, 06:45 PM
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Is a ‘feud’ the right way to describe this?


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jacomo
04-07-2018, 07:54 PM
Don’t spoil it, make everyone read it.[emoji6][emoji23]


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:faf:

I’ve passed it to my lawyers for an expert opinion.

ancient hibee
04-07-2018, 10:04 PM
Feud is an astonishing word for the BBC to use but typical of Scottish football journalists wanting to stay onside with Rangers.

RyeSloan
04-07-2018, 10:29 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180704/6d01a129bfe2f165e31d0831c481a58d.png
Is a ‘feud’ the right way to describe this?


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A prolonged battle or dispute....Id say that describes it nicely.

He’s been battling their decision and disputing their authority through out.

He should be held in contempt ASAP as that’s clearly what he has treated this whole affair with.

I am curious however just why he is so reluctant to make the offer?

Sioux
04-07-2018, 10:34 PM
A prolonged battle or dispute....Id say that describes it nicely.

He’s been battling their decision and disputing their authority through out.

He should be held in contempt ASAP as that’s clearly what he has treated this whole affair with.

I am curious however just why he is so reluctant to make the offer?

He's not got any money!

Ozyhibby
04-07-2018, 10:49 PM
A prolonged battle or dispute....Id say that describes it nicely.

He’s been battling their decision and disputing their authority through out.

He should be held in contempt ASAP as that’s clearly what he has treated this whole affair with.

I am curious however just why he is so reluctant to make the offer?

Could be any number of reasons.
Not got the money? Got the money but it’s tied up in SA? Sevco not worth anywhere near 20p a share?


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RyeSloan
04-07-2018, 11:14 PM
Could be any number of reasons.
Not got the money? Got the money but it’s tied up in SA? Sevco not worth anywhere near 20p a share?


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Yeah it was maybe more of a rhetorical musing than a genuine question [emoji23]

With the (admittedly illiquid) shares trading well north of the 20p on paper it appears there would be few takers at 20p.

His shareholder bloc also must hold significant sway so I’m sure would also lean on other shareholders to remain invested.

Sure there will be costs to putting the offer together but it would seem easier to do it then get it out the way rather than spend money prevaricating and fighting the decision.

They also seem at least reasonably adept at raising debt finance through offering share conversions as payment so it wouldn’t seem impossible for them to get some sucker to underwrite the whole shebang either.

Anyhoo something must be stopping him and that something probably stinks so here’s hoping this whole thing ends up horribly for him and his football team.

Scotty Leither
04-07-2018, 11:17 PM
A prolonged battle or dispute....Id say that describes it nicely.

He’s been battling their decision and disputing their authority through out.

He should be held in contempt ASAP as that’s clearly what he has treated this whole affair with.

I am curious however just why he is so reluctant to make the offer?

Ermm maybe because he doesn't have a pot to p1ss in?

Hibs4185
05-07-2018, 05:16 AM
I may be wrong but if the TOP are now pushing for action and therefore cold shouldering and contempt of court proceedings begin then there is no way they can go ahead with this rights issue.

They were relying on the rights issue to convert debt to equity which would make them FFP compliant. This can now not happen? I’d assume king would have to resign to allow the rights issue?

They were also relying on the rights issue and the club 1872 money to give Gerrard his war chest. Again no rights issue no war chest.

I can’t see how any financial institution will underwrite there prospectus or rights issue-or audit their accounts, whilst King is in charge.

Big changes ahead or Rangers in real trouble.

Ozyhibby
05-07-2018, 06:54 AM
I may be wrong but if the TOP are now pushing for action and therefore cold shouldering and contempt of court proceedings begin then there is no way they can go ahead with this rights issue.

They were relying on the rights issue to convert debt to equity which would make them FFP compliant. This can now not happen? I’d assume king would have to resign to allow the rights issue?

They were also relying on the rights issue and the club 1872 money to give Gerrard his war chest. Again no rights issue no war chest.

I can’t see how any financial institution will underwrite there prospectus or rights issue-or audit their accounts, whilst King is in charge.

Big changes ahead or Rangers in real trouble.

I can’t see how a rights issue would be allowed until DK makes the offer.
Any rights issue has the potential to dilute the shares of small shareholders. Exactly the people the takeover panel are trying to protect.



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southern hibby
05-07-2018, 08:45 AM
Right questions for us Humans that are totally lost by all this .

If The Rangers are blocked from buying selling shares etc by a cold shoulder, can clubs then still sell players to The Rangers ?

Can the SFA stop then from playing in Europe or points deduct them etc etc, for bringing the game into disrepute?

If the lying King doesn’t have the money for this, can The Rangers FC get rid of him legally or remove his shares so the can start trading again?

Sorry if these have been asked or discussed but I’m curious and have read every thread but honestly still have not got a clue what’s going on.


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ballengeich
05-07-2018, 09:38 AM
Right questions for us Humans that are totally lost by all this .

If The Rangers are blocked from buying selling shares etc by a cold shoulder, can clubs then still sell players to The Rangers ?

Can the SFA stop then from playing in Europe or points deduct them etc etc, for bringing the game into disrepute?

If the lying King doesn’t have the money for this, can The Rangers FC get rid of him legally or remove his shares so the can start trading again?

Sorry if these have been asked or discussed but I’m curious and have read every thread but honestly still have not got a clue what’s going on.


GGTTH

The cold shoulder doesn't stop the normal trading activities of a business so transfers won't be affected. I don't know the answers to your other questions.

JeMeSouviens
05-07-2018, 10:18 AM
Right questions for us Humans that are totally lost by all this .

If The Rangers are blocked from buying selling shares etc by a cold shoulder, can clubs then still sell players to The Rangers ?

Can the SFA stop then from playing in Europe or points deduct them etc etc, for bringing the game into disrepute?

If the lying King doesn’t have the money for this, can The Rangers FC get rid of him legally or remove his shares so the can start trading again?

Sorry if these have been asked or discussed but I’m curious and have read every thread but honestly still have not got a clue what’s going on.


GGTTH

It only affects Sevco indirectly, so the answer to the first 2 questions is no. They can trade, buy/sell players etc as normal. However, they are propped up by directors' loans, some from King but more by the 3 bears etc. If there is no share issue on the horizon, then there is no avenue for these guys to get their money back. Consequently, they may be more reluctant to put further money in. There are already signs of this. The longer it goes on the more likely they are to end up like the Old Rangers - bust.

They can get rid of him as director/chairman by organising a shareholder vote to oust him.

southern hibby
05-07-2018, 10:19 AM
The cold shoulder doesn't stop the normal trading activities of a business so transfers won't be affected. I don't know the answers to your other questions.

👍 thanks


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southern hibby
05-07-2018, 10:20 AM
It only affects Sevco indirectly, so the answer to the first 2 questions is no. They can trade, buy/sell players etc as normal. However, they are propped up by directors' loans, some from King but more by the 3 bears etc. If there is no share issue on the horizon, then there is no avenue for these guys to get their money back. Consequently, they may be more reluctant to put further money in. There are already signs of this. The longer it goes on the more likely they are to end up like the Old Rangers - bust.

They can get rid of him as director/chairman by organising a shareholder vote to oust him.

👍 thanks

GGTTH

Ozyhibby
05-07-2018, 10:57 AM
They also need to convert the loans to equity in order to be FFP compliant. This was the reason given for the snap rights issue about two months ago which never happened.


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HibbyDave
05-07-2018, 02:22 PM
Come on guys..... I had a look at sickbag and they now have over 2000 pages devoted to the fiasco at IBrOKES......... we seem to be lagging

or




maybe we simply grasped the information sooner than them?





GGTTH
:flag::flag::flag:

CropleyWasGod
05-07-2018, 03:02 PM
Come on guys..... I had a look at sickbag and they now have over 2000 pages devoted to the fiasco at IBrOKES......... we seem to be lagging

or




maybe we simply grasped the information sooner than them?





GGTTH
:flag::flag::flag:

Our pages are bigger.

Size matters.

Bostonhibby
05-07-2018, 03:12 PM
Come on guys..... I had a look at sickbag and they now have over 2000 pages devoted to the fiasco at IBrOKES......... we seem to be lagging

or




maybe we simply grasped the information sooner than them?





GGTTH
:flag::flag::flag:Simple explanation for the length of their thread. The good doctor, Mrs Budge likes to have control so she writes all of it.

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Tynie01011973
05-07-2018, 06:17 PM
https://twitter.com/BBCAlLamont/status/1014929079454388225?s=19

Poor wee Dave is sick of getting bullied 🤣

SuperAllyMcleod
05-07-2018, 08:53 PM
Come on guys..... I had a look at sickbag and they now have over 2000 pages devoted to the fiasco at IBrOKES......... we seem to be lagging

or




maybe we simply grasped the information sooner than them?





GGTTH
:flag::flag::flag:

Yeah, but how many of their posts are just gifs - they seem to love those over there, strange lot.

Jack Hackett
06-07-2018, 08:48 AM
Yeah, but how many of their posts are just gifs - they seem to love those over there, strange lot.

:agree:





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jacomo
06-07-2018, 09:25 AM
https://twitter.com/BBCAlLamont/status/1014929079454388225?s=19

Poor wee Dave is sick of getting bullied 🤣


‘I continue to proceed in the best interests of the club and its supporters’

:faf:

Jim44
06-07-2018, 12:21 PM
‘I continue to proceed in the best interests of the club and its supporters’

:faf:

........ which just happens to lie happily with his lack of funds.

HoboHarry
07-07-2018, 01:04 AM
Sevco back in court with an injunction served on them though I'm not sure for what - as Phil Mac says it's a lengthy document. Maybe something to do with the new Hummels kit?

https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2018/07/06/general-ashley-puts-his-tanks-into-forward-gear/

Ozyhibby
07-07-2018, 01:07 AM
Sevco back in court with an injunction served on them though I'm not sure for what - as Phil Mac says it's a lengthy document. Maybe something to do with the new Hummels kit?

https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2018/07/06/general-ashley-puts-his-tanks-into-forward-gear/

Might explain why their new kit has not gone on sale yet. 🤞


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HoboHarry
07-07-2018, 01:11 AM
Might explain why their new kit has not gone on sale yet. 🤞


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I thought I read that the new kit wouldn't be ready for sales until around the new year. I'm thinking that this may be to do with where the Hummels tops are going to be sold from.....

Ozyhibby
07-07-2018, 07:08 AM
I thought I read that the new kit wouldn't be ready for sales until around the new year. I'm thinking that this may be to do with where the Hummels tops are going to be sold from.....

The new year? Really? The wheels will have came off big time by then. It’s great though that you never see kids in Sevco strips these days. The worlds a better place for it.


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Ozyhibby
07-07-2018, 07:17 AM
https://thecelticblog.com/2018/07/blogs/mike-ashley-leaves-king-on-the-brink-as-he-wins-a-stunning-court-battle-over-sevco-shirt-sales/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


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Ozyhibby
07-07-2018, 07:50 AM
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/16338634.matthew-lindsay-sorry-takeover-panel-saga-could-have-far-reaching-implications-for-dave-king-and-rangers/


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Billy Whizz
07-07-2018, 08:45 AM
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/16338634.matthew-lindsay-sorry-takeover-panel-saga-could-have-far-reaching-implications-for-dave-king-and-rangers/


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Able to copy and paste, don’t subscribe to Herald

SouthsideHarp_Bhoy
07-07-2018, 09:31 AM
https://thecelticblog.com/2018/07/blogs/mike-ashley-leaves-king-on-the-brink-as-he-wins-a-stunning-court-battle-over-sevco-shirt-sales/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


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If there true, and I'm reading it right, sports direct have first option on all of the profitable elements of huns merchandising that they want, in perpetuity?

Wow, what a deal for sports direct. I know they have some dodgy business practices, but I can't help but love them at the moment!

Killiehibbie
07-07-2018, 09:44 AM
If there true, and I'm reading it right, sports direct have first option on all of the profitable elements of huns merchandising that they want, in perpetuity?

Wow, what a deal for sports direct. I know they have some dodgy business practices, but I can't help but love them at the moment!What kind of astute businessman signs up to that deal? Looks like they signed a deal without reading it.

Stonewall
07-07-2018, 10:03 AM
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/16338634.matthew-lindsay-sorry-takeover-panel-saga-could-have-far-reaching-implications-for-dave-king-and-rangers/


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What a desperately poor article from a supposedly serious newspaper. Full of questionable assertions to sugar the pill for the bad news at the end of the article which is turn in superficial and devoid of analysis.

Ozyhibby
07-07-2018, 10:06 AM
What a desperately poor article from a supposedly serious newspaper. Full of questionable assertions to sugar the pill for the bad news at the end of the article which is turn in superficial and devoid of analysis.



Couldn’t have put it better myself.


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Ozyhibby
07-07-2018, 10:09 AM
What kind of astute businessman signs up to that deal? Looks like they signed a deal without reading it.

One that is about to lose a court case that would have cost them millions of pounds? King basically took an out of court settlement for £3m which doesn’t even get rid of Ashley. And the Sevconians rejoiced. [emoji23]


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O'Rourke3
07-07-2018, 10:10 AM
Mike Ashley - the gift that keeps on giving and preventing those strips being seem everywhere for a wee while longer :faf:

Killiehibbie
07-07-2018, 11:20 AM
One that is about to lose a court case that would have cost them millions of pounds? King basically took an out of court settlement for £3m which doesn’t even get rid of Ashley. And the Sevconians rejoiced. [emoji23]


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Billy Whizz
07-07-2018, 12:57 PM
So they can’t sell their new strips?

Ozyhibby
07-07-2018, 12:57 PM
If their merchandise is worth even half that of Celtic it's about £8M per year.

That’s a sales figure. Celtic’s profit from merchandising was less than £5m.


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Ozyhibby
07-07-2018, 12:58 PM
So they can’t sell their new strips?

Not until this case is settled and even then it looks like it will be with Sports Direct. Forever.


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Ronniekirk
07-07-2018, 02:11 PM
Not until this case is settled and even then it looks like it will be with Sports Direct. Forever.


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So we wont be seeing those Orange strips they have all been Raving about on the backs of Rangers fans


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Ozyhibby
07-07-2018, 02:17 PM
So we wont be seeing those Orange strips they have all been Raving about on the backs of Rangers fans


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We’ll know more on Tuesday. Hopefully not. [emoji3]


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CropleyWasGod
07-07-2018, 02:17 PM
So we wont be seeing those Orange strips they have all been Raving about on the backs of Rangers fans


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThe sweat shops of Belfast are churning them out already.☺

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Ronniekirk
07-07-2018, 02:20 PM
The sweat shops of Belfast are churning them out already.☺

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We will be seeing the Orange Hand of Ulster next Like those Kenny Everet ones



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Radium
07-07-2018, 03:39 PM
TRFC would appear to have released another squirrel...




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Ozyhibby
07-07-2018, 03:42 PM
https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/club-statement-89/


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Moulin Yarns
07-07-2018, 03:46 PM
https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/club-statement-89/


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Diversionary tactics. Everyone can see that. The Lying King is a busted flush, and is trying to keep the orcs onside.

Billy Whizz
07-07-2018, 03:46 PM
https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/club-statement-89/


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Always good at deflecting from the real issues

Ozyhibby
07-07-2018, 03:55 PM
Trouble for Sevco is that they are fighting legal and financial issues with PR. That is not going to work, even in the medium term.



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ancient hibee
07-07-2018, 04:07 PM
They are so used to being buttered up in the press that they don’t realise that their troubles are in the real world where the people they are dealing with don’t give a tuppenny toss about them.Meanwhile they are spending money like there’s no tomorrow,maybe there won’t be.

greenginger
07-07-2018, 04:30 PM
https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/club-statement-89/


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Considering the number of conflicted Rangers leaning people who have held positions in the SFA and SPFL lately, that's got to be a joke.

Eyrie
07-07-2018, 04:36 PM
https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/club-statement-89/


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Anyone want to copy and paste please?

Radium
07-07-2018, 04:45 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180707/764336806154278f179d9b9fc4153a38.png


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tamig
07-07-2018, 05:07 PM
https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/club-statement-89/


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Lol. The hun speaking about transparency, governance and integrity which they ignore at every opportunity. Is this the early leader in the statement league?

O'Rourke3
07-07-2018, 05:14 PM
Lol. The hun speaking about transparency, governance and integrity which they ignore at every opportunity. Is this the early leader in the statement league?

Beat me to it. The frontrunners are off and away before some teams return to training. "It's good to get off to a decent start" said Mason Oranjeboom the Rangers new Head of Equalities. "These bead rattlers need to be reminded whorapeepul ur" Chairman in Exile DC King is understood to have told the Press - "do not look behind the curtain, ignore that man behind the curtain! They don't know who they are dealing with, trying to undermine me with laws and contracts..."

PeeKay
07-07-2018, 05:32 PM
Trouble for Sevco is that they are fighting legal and financial issues with PR. That is not going to work, even in the medium term.
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But when everything is going pear-shaped, they play the victim card and that pulls all the orcs into line.

Eyrie
07-07-2018, 05:37 PM
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Thanks - always appreciate a good comedy script.

ancient hibee
07-07-2018, 05:53 PM
To be fair MacLennan is not the brightest tool in the box and has been emptied from a few high flying places.He should never have been given the post but he was at a loose end.

Billy Whizz
07-07-2018, 05:54 PM
It’s on BBC website, so must be true


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44751374

ancient hibee
07-07-2018, 06:00 PM
According to the BBC the Rangers defence appears to be -but we want to do it-.

Ozyhibby
07-07-2018, 06:40 PM
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Billy Whizz
07-07-2018, 06:47 PM
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But surely if they match the current deal on offer, it will earn Rangers more money?
Or is it the principle, that they paid to get out the SD contract, but are now possibly back with him?

Hibs1969
07-07-2018, 07:35 PM
Lol. The hun speaking about transparency, governance and integrity which they ignore at every opportunity. Is this the early leader in the statement league?

First one of the new season, the first of many no doubt.

Sevco - offended by everything, ashamed of nothing.

Ozyhibby
07-07-2018, 07:45 PM
But surely if they match the current deal on offer, it will earn Rangers more money?
Or is it the principle, that they paid to get out the SD contract, but are now possibly back with him?

They can match this deal and Sevco will do better out of it but I can’t see any sportswear chain even bidding in the future knowing that their biggest competitor has the right to see the details of their offer. I wouldn’t be surprised if JD sports withdraw their offer altogether in the next couple of days rather than let Sports Direct see the documents.
If there is no other bid then the terms of the deal revert to the deal Sports direct had last season. Only it’s not for 7 years now, it’s forever.


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BegbieHSC
07-07-2018, 08:05 PM
Hun Statement number 1 of the 18/19 season, and it’s almost as hilarious as their final one last season.

How many we reckon they’ll have issued by May 19’ ? 😂😂😂

Bostonhibby
07-07-2018, 08:13 PM
Jeez, there's got to be some FIFA/EUFA or sfa rules about them cheating to win the statement league before the season had even started?

The good doctor, Mrs Budge won't be happy with them getting in so early whilst she's still composing her first sermon

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CropleyWasGod
07-07-2018, 11:29 PM
Jeez, there's got to be some FIFA/EUFA or sfa rules about them cheating to win the statement league before the season had even started?

The good doctor, Mrs Budge won't be happy with them getting in so early whilst she's still composing her first sermon

Sent from my SM-J320FN using TapatalkCalm down. It's only a pre-season friendly statement.

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CyberSauzee
08-07-2018, 12:06 AM
They can match this deal and Sevco will do better out of it but I can’t see any sportswear chain even bidding in the future knowing that their biggest competitor has the right to see the details of their offer. I wouldn’t be surprised if JD sports withdraw their offer altogether in the next couple of days rather than let Sports Direct see the documents.
If there is no other bid then the terms of the deal revert to the deal Sports direct had last season. Only it’s not for 7 years now, it’s forever.


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I've read the Celtic blogs and your comments Ozzy and I don't dispute the knowledge.

I have to ask though is this legal? Can you get someone to sign a contract that is enforceable for the duration of a company's life?

Not that this company has much left but you get the idea.

Ozyhibby
08-07-2018, 06:51 AM
I've read the Celtic blogs and your comments Ozzy and I don't dispute the knowledge.

I have to ask though is this legal? Can you get someone to sign a contract that is enforceable for the duration of a company's life?

Not that this company has much left but you get the idea.

I don’t know. It could be that they have an element of ownership of the brand? I guess all they really have is the right to match other bids but of course other bids are unlikely to come in now that is public knowledge.
It must work in some circumstance like franchise agreements where you agree to pay marketing royalties etc for the life of the company? I’m not sure though. Every day is a school day with this lot.


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Jim44
08-07-2018, 07:17 AM
I’m surprised that, when the Lying King made his £3m deal with DS, he left Sevco open to this situation?

Ozyhibby
08-07-2018, 07:37 AM
I’m surprised that, when the Lying King made his £3m deal with DS, he left Sevco open to this situation?

I don’t think he had a choice. He was about to lose heavily in court.
Interesting that King and Murray are named personally in this case. A lot of speculation that this is because they are benefitting personally from the deal.


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Bostonhibby
08-07-2018, 08:19 AM
Calm down. It's only a pre-season friendly statement.

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Billy Whizz
08-07-2018, 08:25 AM
I don’t think he had a choice. He was about to lose heavily in court.
Interesting that King and Murray are named personally in this case. A lot of speculation that this is because they are benefitting personally from the deal.


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Paul Murray?

Jim44
08-07-2018, 08:48 AM
Considering the number of conflicted Rangers leaning people who have held positions in the SFA and SPFL lately, that's got to be a joke.


To be fair MacLennan is not the brightest tool in the box and has been emptied from a few high flying places.He should never have been given the post but he was at a loose end.

Ok, we are all well aware of the hypocrisy of Sevco in terms of ‘friends in high places etc.’ , but two wrongs don’t make a right. Should we sit back and laugh at this ‘shoe on the other foot’ scenario. Are this guy MacLennan’s ( Celtic minded Lawwell’s puppet?) motives any less unacceptable than King’s?

Disclaimer : My observation is from a shaky position of not fully knowing or understanding the facts. :greengrin

Ozyhibby
08-07-2018, 10:05 AM
Ok, we are all well aware of the hypocrisy of Sevco in terms of ‘friends in high places etc.’ , but two wrongs don’t make a right. Should we sit back and laugh at this ‘shoe on the other foot’ scenario. Are this guy MacLennan’s ( Celtic minded Lawwell’s puppet?) motives any less unacceptable than King’s?

Disclaimer : My observation is from a shaky position of not fully knowing or understanding the facts. :greengrin

No, I agree totally. I support Sevco in asking for full transparency. But it has to be full transparency. I want a full review of the running of the game in Scotland because it will never be successful with the current structure.
A smaller country than Scotland just made the semi of the World Cup and smaller clubs than us are outbidding us for players all over Europe.
Football in Scotland has to be one of the worst run in the developed world.
So yes, I support Sevco in asking for a review. Anything that upsets the apple cart can only be good for the game.


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PeeKay
08-07-2018, 11:06 AM
No, I agree totally. I support Sevco in asking for full transparency. But it has to be full transparency. I want a full review of the running of the game in Scotland because it will never be successful with the current structure.
A smaller country than Scotland just made the semi of the World Cup and smaller clubs than us are outbidding us for players all over Europe.
Football in Scotland has to be one of the worst run in the developed world.
So yes, I support Sevco in asking for a review. Anything that upsets the apple cart can only be good for the game.
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Never saw them shouting about transparency when Campbell Ogilvie (aka Mr. EBT) was SFA President.

jacomo
08-07-2018, 12:27 PM
Never saw them shouting about transparency when Campbell Ogilvie (aka Mr. EBT) was SFA President.


Or when all those journalists were being given the succulent lamb treatment.

Springbank
08-07-2018, 12:31 PM
agréé that 2 wrongs dont mâke a right.

any reason to lift the lid on the sfa and get change for the better is supportable.

that it should have been done before is a given.

that it was not done before makes me even more likely to want it To happen now though regardless of who sets off the first domino.

ancient hibee
08-07-2018, 04:25 PM
They’re not complaining about the SFA it’s the SPFL this time.

Ozyhibby
10-07-2018, 07:15 AM
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Captain Trips
10-07-2018, 08:31 AM
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Half ten kick off in the big match today. [emoji3]


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Who is on the VAR?

Captain Trips
10-07-2018, 08:32 AM
Sorry ozzy what is this case? Sports direct thing?

The Leith Dutch
10-07-2018, 08:36 AM
No, I agree totally. I support Sevco in asking for full transparency. But it has to be full transparency. I want a full review of the running of the game in Scotland because it will never be successful with the current structure.
A smaller country than Scotland just made the semi of the World Cup and smaller clubs than us are outbidding us for players all over Europe.
Football in Scotland has to be one of the worst run in the developed world.
So yes, I support Sevco in asking for a review. Anything that upsets the apple cart can only be good for the game.


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While I completely agree with your sentiment the problem is they've no intent of full transparency.
They want some of the things that might benefit Celtic exposed so they can drag them back towards the rest of the game.
While that is no bad thing they only want it so that they can get benefits themselves.
No good will ever come from this ****bag of a club.

For me there is no hope of Scottish football reforming as long as people in the governance of the game are saying **** like "We need a healthy Rangers/Celtic in the Scottish game". The health of Rangers and Celtic is a matter entirely for their own boards and club structure. If they get it wrong they can and should fail and, as we've seen other teams will get stronger and fill their place.

The very mindset that allows someone to say we must have a healthy Rangers is all but admitting the game is skewed and they view the OF as the good china you bring out for guests.

Bostonhibby
10-07-2018, 08:39 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180710/fe1bee59ee34ffd7778e430852f1a38a.jpg
Half ten kick off in the big match today. [emoji3]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSDI retail services Ltd disnae exactly trip of the tongue but is there still time to knock up a wee song supporting them in this clash of the despicables?

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CentreLine
10-07-2018, 08:47 AM
While I completely agree with your sentiment the problem is they've no intent of full transparency.
They want some of the things that might benefit Celtic exposed so they can drag them back towards the rest of the game.
While that is no bad thing they only want it so that they can get benefits themselves.
No good will ever come from this ****bag of a club.

For me there is no hope of Scottish football reforming as long as people in the governance of the game are saying **** like "We need a healthy Rangers/Celtic in the Scottish game". The health of Rangers and Celtic is a matter entirely for their own boards and club structure. If they get it wrong they can and should fail and, as we've seen other teams will get stronger and fill their place.

The very mindset that allows someone to say we must have a healthy Rangers is all but admitting the game is skewed and they view the OF as the good china you bring out for guests.

What I do not get is why anyone takes these “club” statements seriously. They are released on a website not attributed to anyone at The Rangers Football Club and yet somehow the press and even the SPFL react as if the outbursts have some gravity. I feel they are best ignored unless there is some provenance to the statements. Then of course the club would be open to action for brining the game in to disrepute.
So my message to the SMSM is, by all means report what this website is saying but let’s make it clear that nobody at TRFC is putting their name to it therefore it carries no credibility as a complaint. A judgment could be made as to whether there was any credibility if the statement had a club source.

Greenworld
10-07-2018, 09:19 AM
Will we get tweet coverage of the case

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Ozyhibby
10-07-2018, 09:24 AM
Sorry ozzy what is this case? Sports direct thing?

Sports direct. If they win then they have first refusal on Rangers retail for life.[emoji3]


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Greenworld
10-07-2018, 09:30 AM
Sports direct. If they win then they have first refusal on Rangers retail for life.[emoji3]


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Oscar T Grouch
10-07-2018, 09:39 AM
Sports direct. If they win then they have first refusal on Rangers retail for life.[emoji3]


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Not just first refusal on Rangers retail, but first refusal on the most profitable parts of Rangers retails, they don't have to take the mugs and bath towels business, just the tops where the most profit is made. This is if the match or better any other offers for these specific items, which is why they are in court today, the huns never gave SD these details. While I have a healthy hatred for Mike Ashley for they way he treats his employees you have to admire the guy for screwing the huns to the post so well :greengrin

Ozyhibby
10-07-2018, 10:06 AM
U in court

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It’s in London I think. Sports Direct are not daft.


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Greenworld
10-07-2018, 10:38 AM
Ah ok clever move

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Famous Fiver
10-07-2018, 10:42 AM
I would like Sports Direct to win this one.

Wonder who Jumbo Jim will lash out at if the verdict goes against his beloved new club?

Can't wait for the Offishul Statement!!

Ozyhibby
10-07-2018, 11:16 AM
I would like Sports Direct to win this one.

Wonder who Jumbo Jim will lash out at if the verdict goes against his beloved new club?

Can't wait for the Offishul Statement!!

If Sports direct win then it’s very bad for Sevco. The have signed deals with JD sports that they won’t be able to deliver. I imagine JD sports will seek compensation. Now that it’s out in the open, no sports retailer will come near them knowing they are going to be giving all the bid details to sports direct. A loss today is very bad news for sevco.


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Famous Fiver
10-07-2018, 11:32 AM
Puts a spring in my step reading that, Ozy.

I might be bitter and twisted but I want everything that club touches to turn to dust and cost them a fortune along the way.

BonnieFitbaTeam
10-07-2018, 11:33 AM
If Sports direct win then it’s very bad for Sevco. The have signed deals with JD sports that they won’t be able to deliver. I imagine JD sports will seek compensation. Now that it’s out in the open, no sports retailer will come near them knowing they are going to be giving all the bid details to sports direct. A loss today is very bad news for sevco.


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Let's keep everything crossed then :agree:

Springbank
10-07-2018, 11:44 AM
I would like Sports Direct to win this one.

Wonder who Jumbo Jim will lash out at if the verdict goes against his beloved new club?

Can't wait for the Offishul Statement!!

A glance at Wiki for the Judge (Stephens) shows a mixed bag for the Peeple.

He has a daughter with the middle name Marie-Therese, but he has also done his national service in the Royal Navy

I'd say it's looking like 1-1 going into injury time for M'lud (in the eyes of that twisted caste of Ulster & West of Scotland)

The Pointer
10-07-2018, 12:07 PM
A glance at Wiki for the Judge (Stephens) shows a mixed bag for the Peeple.

He has a daughter with the middle name Marie-Therese, but he has also done his national service in the Royal Navy

I'd say it's looking like 1-1 going into injury time for M'lud (in the eyes of that twisted caste of Ulster & West of Scotland)

National service? How old is he?!

Greenworld
10-07-2018, 12:22 PM
Do we have a half time report

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The Leith Dutch
10-07-2018, 12:35 PM
Puts a spring in my step reading that, Ozy.

I might be bitter and twisted but I want everything that club touches to turn to dust and cost them a fortune along the way.

Nothing of the sort.
This sort of reaction where der Hun are concerned is a badge of impeccable character ;)

Springbank
10-07-2018, 12:41 PM
National service? How old is he?!

80 as of January this year

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Phillips,_Baron_Phillips_of_Worth_Matravers

Such is the ermine-clad world of Brexit Britain

ancient hibee
10-07-2018, 02:30 PM
Rather strange that he retired in 2012 is it not?Suspect you have the wrong one so not Brexit Britain after all.

HoboHarry
10-07-2018, 03:11 PM
Come on Ozzy - gies a wee snippet of whits going on..........

Ozyhibby
10-07-2018, 03:49 PM
Come on Ozzy - gies a wee snippet of whits going on..........

Haven’t got a scooby, I’m actually having to work today, so not seen anything yet.


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Ozyhibby
10-07-2018, 04:33 PM
As we are relying on the Scottish mainstream media for this I would think that no news is good news.


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10-07-2018, 04:35 PM
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Winston Ingram
10-07-2018, 05:08 PM
As we are relying on the Scottish mainstream media for this I would think that no news is good news.


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Good point

Fuzzywuzzy
10-07-2018, 05:29 PM
Blue Avenger 8,574 Blue Avenger
Posted Sunday at 09:38
Any **** preventing me getting my orange top is a dead man.

I've waited too long





🤪🤪🤪🤯🤯🤯

ancient hibee
10-07-2018, 05:37 PM
Maybe if he goes and spits on a priest it'll give him some relief.

Famous Fiver
10-07-2018, 05:38 PM
Case to be settled in December?

I wonder which of the protagonists will have their Christmas stock ready to roll?

Somebody's going to be out of pocket.

Pretty please, let it be the the Rangers.

Ozyhibby
10-07-2018, 05:48 PM
Case to be settled in December?

I wonder which of the protagonists will have their Christmas stock ready to roll?

Somebody's going to be out of pocket.

Pretty please, let it be the the Rangers.

They are back in court tomorrow.


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Famous Fiver
10-07-2018, 05:49 PM
Ah well, it was a nice thought!

Deansy
10-07-2018, 05:53 PM
No, I agree totally. I support Sevco in asking for full transparency. But it has to be full transparency. I want a full review of the running of the game in Scotland because it will never be successful with the current structure.
A smaller country than Scotland just made the semi of the World Cup and smaller clubs than us are outbidding us for players all over Europe.
Football in Scotland has to be one of the worst run in the developed world.
So yes, I support Sevco in asking for a review. Anything that upsets the apple cart can only be good for the game.


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If the full details of the '5 way agreement' are included in this 'full transparency' then the low-life, ****-sucking, inbred-filth have my support too !

Ozyhibby
10-07-2018, 07:27 PM
https://stv.tv/amp/1422621-rangers-await-judge-s-ruling-in-sports-direct-row/?__twitter_impression=true


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Fuzzywuzzy
10-07-2018, 07:58 PM
https://stv.tv/amp/1422621-rangers-await-judge-s-ruling-in-sports-direct-row/?__twitter_impression=true


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Bit of an oxymoron 'self-respecting rangers fans'

Smartie
10-07-2018, 08:07 PM
Bit of an oxymoron 'self-respecting rangers fans'

Self-respecting Rangers fans.

Vatican Rangers supporters club.

Handsome huns.

O'Rourke3
10-07-2018, 08:10 PM
So fans now sway the decision on whether the club can get out of a contract based on not believing their club get enough. Must be a new tactic. He didn't hit him hard enough your honour in our opinion, he deserves to get off. Ned Law over contract law now 🤣

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Jack Hackett
10-07-2018, 08:19 PM
So fans now sway the decision on whether the club can get out of a contract based on not believing their club get enough. Must be a new tactic. He didn't hit him hard enough your honour in our opinion, he deserves to get off. Ned Law over contract law now 🤣

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I bet the creditors of the original club would be happy to get 7p in the £

O'Rourke3
10-07-2018, 09:36 PM
I bet the creditors of the original club would be happy to get 7p in the £Tru dat...

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HibbyDave
11-07-2018, 06:43 AM
Maybe if he goes and spits on a priest it'll give him some relief.

In the words of Bowie.... a cop Knealt and kissed the feet of a priest and a queer threw up at the sight of that.
Copyright Five years, track one on Ziggy Stardust &The Spiders from Mars

SteveHFC
11-07-2018, 12:42 PM
Been put on hold until late july

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/rangers-set-court-battle-over-12894456

Ozyhibby
11-07-2018, 01:39 PM
And the injunction stands. No Sevco strips on sale this year I think by the time there are appeals etc. Shame. [emoji23]

https://stv.tv/amp/1422722-rangers-told-not-to-sign-strip-deal-before-court-date/?__twitter_impression=true


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Famous Fiver
11-07-2018, 01:56 PM
No orange strips for a while yet?

Thank the lord for that.

HoboHarry
11-07-2018, 02:58 PM
If they can't sign an agreement with Hummels what will they be wearing for the European tie? Or have I got this wrong?

grunt
11-07-2018, 03:06 PM
Bruno Alves has left my mutual consent.

BoomtownHibees
11-07-2018, 03:07 PM
If they can't sign an agreement with Hummels what will they be wearing for the European tie? Or have I got this wrong?

Nothing to do with Hummel as far as I know. This is about what retailer can sell the strips

Bostonhibby
11-07-2018, 03:07 PM
Bruno Alves has left my mutual consent.Obviously not being able to wear a tango man outfit or do the sash was the final straw.

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Ozyhibby
11-07-2018, 03:10 PM
No orange strips for marching season. Shame.


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jacomo
11-07-2018, 03:16 PM
Bruno Alves has left my mutual consent.


He never had my mutual consent either.

Bostonhibby
11-07-2018, 03:20 PM
He never had my mutual consent either.Fair play to him though he's played his part in contributing to their latest financial mess without having to overstretch himself in the football department.

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jacomo
11-07-2018, 03:33 PM
And the injunction stands. No Sevco strips on sale this year I think by the time there are appeals etc. Shame. [emoji23]

https://stv.tv/amp/1422722-rangers-told-not-to-sign-strip-deal-before-court-date/?__twitter_impression=true


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Let’s hope Mike Ashley has got a better legal team this time.

I’m guessing that the fact he pocketed £3m from Der Hun won’t count in his favour.

I’m also guessing that Hummel have already made a load of new replica tops and will be less than pleased at any delay getting them on sale.

grunt
11-07-2018, 03:58 PM
He never had my mutual consent either.

:doh:

Ozyhibby
11-07-2018, 04:09 PM
Let’s hope Mike Ashley has got a better legal team this time.

I’m guessing that the fact he pocketed £3m from Der Hun won’t count in his favour.

I’m also guessing that Hummel have already made a load of new replica tops and will be less than pleased at any delay getting them on sale.

The £3m was an out of court settlement because Sevco had defaulted on the last agreement.


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ancient hibee
11-07-2018, 04:10 PM
Let’s hope Mike Ashley has got a better legal team this time.

I’m guessing that the fact he pocketed £3m from Der Hun won’t count in his favour.

I’m also guessing that Hummel have already made a load of new replica tops and will be less than pleased at any delay getting them on sale.
Aren’t you a wee bit confused?His legal team has tied Rangers in knots while getting him £3M for nothing.

jacomo
11-07-2018, 05:46 PM
Aren’t you a wee bit confused?His legal team has tied Rangers in knots while getting him £3M for nothing.


I was thinking of a previous court battle where his legal team were accused of being ill prepared.

A consequence of holding so many meetings in the pub I guess!

ancient hibee
11-07-2018, 05:49 PM
He must be an interesting guy to work for-he certainly rewards loyalty at the top of the tree.

Just Alf
11-07-2018, 06:56 PM
I was thinking of a previous court battle where his legal team were accused of being ill prepared.

A consequence of holding so many meetings in the pub I guess!I remember that one too... seemed like a slam dunk and because they were unprepared the hun got off on a technicality.... something along those lines anyways...

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Jim44
14-07-2018, 06:09 AM
With the as yet unavailability of their new Hummel strip, what the well dressed Hun is apparently wearing.

20991

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14-07-2018, 07:52 PM
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Famous Fiver
14-07-2018, 08:25 PM
High Command Football side or High Command Boardroom side?

Apparently one of their subs got pelters in the European tie for crossing himself when he came on.

Oh and The Sash got a good airing.

Wonder if Mr Gerrard is having second thoughts.

HoboHarry
14-07-2018, 08:32 PM
High Command Football side or High Command Boardroom side?

Apparently one of their subs got pelters in the European tie for crossing himself when he came on.

Oh and The Sash got a good airing.

Wonder if Mr Gerrard is having second thoughts.
SG resigning would be just too good to be true. I expect they are directors but one can but hope...... :greengrin

Smartie
14-07-2018, 08:36 PM
Boardroom upheaval early in his tenure will not do much for Gerrard though.

Jim44
14-07-2018, 09:05 PM
High Command Football side or High Command Boardroom side?

Apparently one of their subs got pelters in the European tie for crossing himself when he came on.

Oh and The Sash got a good airing.

Wonder if Mr Gerrard is having second thoughts.

Gerrard has no road out of Ibrox yet. If he had a soul his stomach would turn. I suspect his wallet controls his conscience. His first and dodgy flirtation with management is going to end in tears. Love it!!!!

HoboHarry
14-07-2018, 09:10 PM
Gerrard has no road out of Ibrox yet. If he had a soul his stomach would turn. I suspect his wallet controls his conscience. His first and dodgy flirtation with management is going to end in tears. Love it!!!!
At this point though I imagine he has a fair bit stashed away and could afford to take some time out. He will get a job in England easily if he quit at this point - no-one would blame him for leaving that chaotic environment.....

CyberSauzee
15-07-2018, 01:05 AM
Are there any directors left to resign? King had screwed over most of them; 2 resigned a few weeks ago to avoid any financial repercusions. Implication is on the football side. DoF I would think.

greenginger
15-07-2018, 07:59 AM
Are there any directors left to resign? King had screwed over most of them; 2 resigned a few weeks ago to avoid any financial repercusions. Implication is on the football side. DoF I would think.


I'd guess it might be Stewart Robertson , director of TRFC. He's a director of a string of other companies and if the cold shoulder is coming he may feel it best to give up his directorship at Ibrox.

He could still continue in his management roll without being a director.

Bostonhibby
15-07-2018, 09:15 AM
At this point though I imagine he has a fair bit stashed away and could afford to take some time out. He will get a job in England easily if he quit at this point - no-one would blame him for leaving that chaotic environment.....[emoji106]

Chaotic hate fuelled environment.

I'm amazed he went and as a result he's a much poorer character than I thought he was.

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Tomsk
15-07-2018, 09:21 AM
[emoji106]

Chaotic hate fuelled environment.

I'm amazed he went and as a result he's a much poorer character than I thought he was.

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We all see it differently. Personally, I found it entirely in keeping with his character.

Jack Hackett
15-07-2018, 09:32 AM
We all see it differently. Personally, I found it entirely in keeping with his character.

:agree:

Never been a fan and sincerely hope he crashes and burns

Bostonhibby
15-07-2018, 09:41 AM
We all see it differently. Personally, I found it entirely in keeping with his character.Probably not that far apart really, I just thought he or his advisers might be a bit savvier about what this obnoxious institution might do for the image he's tried to create for himself.

Very good, but not quite great player and I've got my doubts about the character of the man. It's not as if he needed Sevco's money.

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Jack
15-07-2018, 10:03 AM
Probably not that far apart really, I just thought he or his advisers might be a bit savvier about what this obnoxious institution might do for the image he's tried to create for himself.

Very good, but not quite great player and I've got my doubts about the character of the man. It's not as if he needed Sevco's money.

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Quite possibly an arrogant streak that will be telling him he can't possibly fail in Scotland.

Bostonhibby
15-07-2018, 10:07 AM
Quite possibly an arrogant streak that will be telling him he can't possibly fail in Scotland.Aye, personally thinking and hoping he's gone by Xmas, whatever the reasons.

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jacomo
15-07-2018, 06:02 PM
Quite possibly an arrogant streak that will be telling him he can't possibly fail in Scotland.


It’s certainly what most of the pundits in England told him.

Ozyhibby
17-07-2018, 07:56 AM
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16357965.dave-king-will-face-court-ordered-contempt-hearing-over-11m-rangers-shares-bid-failure/

Up in court on Friday.


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Ronniekirk
17-07-2018, 08:30 AM
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16357965.dave-king-will-face-court-ordered-contempt-hearing-over-11m-rangers-shares-bid-failure/

Up in court on Friday.


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That quote from Kings Q C arguing he is penniless is just incredulous
Lying to the Courts Good that it's Lord Bannatyne again He can clearly see through Kings tactics


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Jack Hackett
17-07-2018, 08:53 AM
If the Lying King is so skint, wouldn't the simplest solution be to order him to sell his shares (at 20p) and remove him from the board?

Bostonhibby
17-07-2018, 09:57 AM
If the Lying King is so skint, wouldn't the simplest solution be to order him to sell his shares (at 20p) and remove him from the board?Was thinking he must have even more "off the radar" wealth than the meejah told us Craig Whyte had when he was the Messiah.

I say this because if it was worth his while eventually pleading guilty to 63 tax fraud charges then there must have been quite a lot of money involved before tax. So it can only be a question of time before the legendary, nay mythical warchest is opened and they can finally stop sponging soft loans of any director but dodgy dave and not rely on loan sharks as their lenders of choice[emoji23][emoji23]

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Famous Fiver
17-07-2018, 10:34 AM
I await the outcome of tonight's titanic struggle against these European giants FC Pushover in that Macedonian temple of world football.

Defeat, and loss of European earnings, together with a potless principal, will surely bring grief and no little financial hardship to the mighty the the Rangers.

I'll have to away and lie down, the prospect of Ibrox meltdown is almost too much for me to hope for.

Is It On....
17-07-2018, 11:20 AM
Probably not that far apart really, I just thought he or his advisers might be a bit savvier about what this obnoxious institution might do for the image he's tried to create for himself.

Very good, but not quite great player and I've got my doubts about the character of the man. It's not as if he needed Sevco's money.

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I thought it was quite a good decision tbh. If he does well, then he gets a great role in England. If he does badly, then the well known problems at Greyskull are a great excuse and he will still get a decent job in England.

Lendo
17-07-2018, 11:24 AM
Aye, personally thinking and hoping he's gone by Xmas, whatever the reasons.

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I drunkenly made this exact bet with a Hun pal on Saturday night. £50, gone by Christmas.

Bostonhibby
17-07-2018, 11:28 AM
I drunkenly made this exact bet with a Hun pal on Saturday night. £50, gone by Christmas.You can get a lot of hun pals for £50[emoji6]

Hope you win

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Ronniekirk
17-07-2018, 12:15 PM
I drunkenly made this exact bet with a Hun pal on Saturday night. £50, gone by Christmas.

Can't see him quitting He is in it for the medium term and will use it as a stepping stone to better job back down South
The Rangers also aren't in a position where they can offload him financially in that time frame
He can't do any worse than previous incumbents of the post


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majorhibs
17-07-2018, 10:36 PM
Quite possibly an arrogant streak that will be telling him he can't possibly fail in Scotland.

Joey Barton was gonna be boss tae! Here’s hopin!

Billy Whizz
18-07-2018, 02:55 PM
Statement time again. Think that’s 2 already this season
https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/dave-king-supporter-update/

CropleyWasGod
18-07-2018, 03:03 PM
Statement time again. Think that’s 2 already this season
https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/dave-king-supporter-update/

The words "no" and "surrender" come to mind.

Billy Whizz
18-07-2018, 03:05 PM
The words "no" and "surrender" come to mind.

He loves to rattle his chops. Everything seems to be everyone else’s fault though

CropleyWasGod
18-07-2018, 03:15 PM
He loves to rattle his chops. Everything seems to be everyone else’s fault though

He may well be preparing his acolytes for a negative verdict on (?) Friday.

Pescarese
18-07-2018, 03:29 PM
Love the bit about not wanting to appoint managers whose experience wasn't good enough. And the bit about the Takeover Panel delaying him from doing what he said he would do. How did the TP do that? All the TP has done is pressure him to stop delaying. No mention of the share issue either, wonder why?

Weststandwanab
18-07-2018, 03:51 PM
He may well be preparing his acolytes for a negative verdict on (?) Friday.

Yes that is my interpretation - timing being the obvious pointer.