Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[emerald green]

So, a 'glib and shameless liar' according to a South African judge but a proper person to be running a Scottish professional football club according to our authorities. :hilarious

What is it with Rangers and these absolute shysters? They're a constant reminder that sc*m does well and truly attract sc*m.

:agree: Yet he is a "fit and proper person" to be a director of this new club. :confused: What do you have to have done to be considered unfit and improper then?

Scottish football, the way it's run is rotten to the core. Always has been IMHO.

[blackpoolhibs]

The folk in charge of football in Scotland wonder why crowds are disappearing, but fail to see their actions are part of the reason it is.

They bend over backward to help clubs who cheat and con their way through life, and folk are rightly getting fed up with it.

[gerry70]

The folk in charge of football in Scotland wonder why crowds are disappearing, but fail to see their actions are part of the reason it is.

They bend over backward to help clubs who cheat and con their way through life, and folk are rightly getting fed up with it.

You have summed it all up perfectly.

But the folk in charge believe that Rangers are football in Scotland.

So things will never change.

[greenginger]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2300644/Former-Dundee-FC-director-Giovanni-Di-Stefano-jailed-14-years-fraud.html

The SFA can have no objections to this guy getting back into Scottish Football. :greengrin

[ACLeith]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2300644/Former-Dundee-FC-director-Giovanni-Di-Stefano-jailed-14-years-fraud.html

The SFA can have no objections to this guy getting back into Scottish Football. :greengrin
Yup! Only 25 convictions, an amateur compared to a real "pro" like DK

[Eyrie]

If Dave King can pass a fit and proper test, then I can only assume that Nick Leeson, Nick Griffin and Jim Traynor will also be joining the Sevco Huns board over the next few weeks.

[Hibs Class]

I don't know if this is corruption or incompetence. But I'd bet my life it's one or the other.

[jacomo]

You have summed it all up perfectly.

But the folk in charge believe that Rangers are football in Scotland.

So things will never change.

2012-2015 was THE opportunity to reform Scottish football for the better, without the Old Firm being able to veto everything. I do fear we've missed that opportunity though a total lack of leadership. Most clubs (including Hibs) been too busy with their own problems to see the bigger picture, and the SFA and League are useless.

[JimBHibees]

No coincidence that this is announced the day before our game. Get the ibrox hoards in full celebratory voice tomorrow.


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Agree no way on this earth is the timing of the announcement a coincidence.

[blackpoolhibs]

You have summed it all up perfectly.

But the folk in charge believe that Rangers are football in Scotland.

So things will never change.

And it all adds to the apathy that surrounds Scottish football.

[blackpoolhibs]

I don't know if this is corruption or incompetence. But I'd bet my life it's one or the other.

I'd put money on it being both.

[Mikey09]

The folk in charge of football in Scotland wonder why crowds are disappearing, but fail to see their actions are part of the reason it is.

They bend over backward to help clubs who cheat and con their way through life, and folk are rightly getting fed up with it.


I think this pretty much sums up the feeling of decent football fans in Scotland.

[cabbageandribs1875]

2012-2015 was THE opportunity to reform Scottish football for the better, without the Old Firm being able to veto everything. I do fear we've missed that opportunity though a total lack of leadership. Most clubs (including Hibs) been too busy with their own problems to see the bigger picture, and the SFA and League are useless.



was that the year aberdeen voted to keep the status quo ? why they didn't vote against the old squirm monopoly is anyones guess

[Ryan69]

2012-2015 was THE opportunity to reform Scottish football for the better, without the Old Firm being able to veto everything. I do fear we've missed that opportunity though a total lack of leadership. Most clubs (including Hibs) been too busy with their own problems to see the bigger picture, and the SFA and League are useless.

And that my friend is why we are going to beat them....Scottish football depends on it!

Another year in the Championship will bust them! :greengrin

[portycabbage]

I'd put money on it being both.

They'd have to make sure they weren't both incompetent and corrupt at the same time, or they'd make an arse of their evil plans!:wink:

[kaimendhibs]

It's like giving Ian Brady a pvg certificate😡

[Deansy]

It's official - Scottish Football can go and take a flying-****** at itself as only the Hun are catered for !!

Every chairman/board of every club in Scotland will be appalled at this 'decision' - if our game had a poor image before, I dread to think how it's viewed now. Things just got tougher, if not we'll-nigh impossible, for every club/chairman !. At a time when we're trying to get more young people involved in the game, improve our standards and attract bigger-gates, our governing-body says it's ok for a CONVICTED-CROOK to be in charge of one of our biggest clubs. The same club the governing-body brought the new rules in for because of it's cheating - and the same club whose board had the same CONVICTED-CROOK as a member !!. And people wondered WHY the league couldn't find a sponsor ??. Even banana-republics used to such farce will be looking down on us and laughing - and then immediately inviting the entire GFA to give a lecture on -

'How it's done whilst still proclaiming honesty, professionalism and integrity even though the entire country KNOWS you're a shower of lying, bent, corrup b******s' !!!


If ever Scotland needed a Hibs victory, it's tonight - C'MON THE HIBEES !!!!

[Jim44]

The head of Rangers First supporters group says on the radio, "It doesn't matter what he did in the past because he is a Ranger who will invest in the club." This convicted criminal didn't even pay his debt to society in the conventional way, he bought his freedom.

[gerry70]

It's official - Scottish Football can go and take a flying-****** at itself as only the Hun are catered for !!

Every chairman/board of every club in Scotland will be appalled at this 'decision' - if our game had a poor image before, I dread to think how it's viewed now. Things just got tougher, if not we'll-nigh impossible, for every club/chairman !. At a time when we're trying to get more young people involved in the game, improve our standards and attract bigger-gates, our governing-body says it's ok for a CONVICTED-CROOK to be in charge of one of our biggest clubs. The same club the governing-body brought the new rules in for because of it's cheating - and the same club whose board had the same CONVICTED-CROOK as a member !!. And people wondered WHY the league couldn't find a sponsor ??. Even banana-republics used to such farce will be looking down on us and laughing - and then immediately inviting the entire GFA to give a lecture on -

'How it's done whilst still proclaiming honesty, professionalism and integrity even though the entire country KNOWS you're a shower of lying, bent, corrup b******s' !!!


If ever Scotland needed a Hibs victory, it's tonight - C'MON THE HIBEES !!!!


The sad thing is that the first part of your post is not true. The boards of clubs in Scotland have not spoken out against any of this. Have we heard anything from Rod Petrie?

[Bill Milne]

It's official - Scottish Football can go and take a flying-****** at itself as only the Hun are catered for !!

Every chairman/board of every club in Scotland will be appalled at this 'decision' - if our game had a poor image before, I dread to think how it's viewed now. Things just got tougher, if not we'll-nigh impossible, for every club/chairman !. At a time when we're trying to get more young people involved in the game, improve our standards and attract bigger-gates, our governing-body says it's ok for a CONVICTED-CROOK to be in charge of one of our biggest clubs. The same club the governing-body brought the new rules in for because of it's cheating - and the same club whose board had the same CONVICTED-CROOK as a member !!. And people wondered WHY the league couldn't find a sponsor ??. Even banana-republics used to such farce will be looking down on us and laughing - and then immediately inviting the entire GFA to give a lecture on -

'How it's done whilst still proclaiming honesty, professionalism and integrity even though the entire country KNOWS you're a shower of lying, bent, corrup b******s' !!!


If ever Scotland needed a Hibs victory, it's tonight - C'MON THE HIBEES !!!!

Not surprised at all by this decision. Jack the Ripper would have been deemed "fit and proper" if he was connected with Sevco.

[Ozyhibby]

was that the year aberdeen voted to keep the status quo ? why they didn't vote against the old squirm monopoly is anyones guess

That voting system is gone anyway with the creation of the SPFL but your point is correct.

[Mikey09]

"When this Tax dispute arose many years ago I took the conscious decision NOT to cooperate with the authorities." Quote from fit and proper new Rangers chairman Dave King.

Seems quite simple to me.... SFA should have just read that statement to him and told him to do one!! When I worked as a cop you usually found most people who had nothing to hide and were innocent in any inquiries were perfectly happy to cooperate with you.
The SFA are a spineless, pathetic bunch who have shown in this decision exactly why decent football fans have zero faith in them. Ask yourself this... If this was a so called small club like Arbroath (no disrespect to them) or Cowdenbeath (same applies!) would this decision for 1: Taken so long? And 2: Been the same outcome? I think we all know the answer to those questions... Oh.... And phenomenal timing!! :applause:

So come on Hibs... Get that result tonight that gives the good guys in Scottish football a chance to tell the authorities and media to ram there blatant bias right up there jacksies... :gwa:

[PatHead]

was that the year aberdeen voted to keep the status quo ? why they didn't vote against the old squirm monopoly is anyones guess

They thought **** everyone else and that they could finish 2nd every year, take all the prize money on offer and leave other clubs behind.

[JeMeSouviens]

This is brilliant, from the (off the radar) record:


Don’t be surprised if Ashley is challenged in the coming months over the validity and legality of his Rangers contracts like he has never been challenged before.

Who knows, rather than being in hock to the Cockney billionaire to the tune of £5million, Rangers just might argue he actually owes them, opening up the likelihood of a long court battle, from which King will not flinch.

After all, he spent 12 years staring down the South African tax authorities before cutting a deal in 2013 that saw him ultimately convicted of 41 tax convictions, forking out more than £44m in a deal he later described as “a favourable settlement”.

Yeah, he certainly showed them! Bet Big Mike Ashley is quaking in his boots. :greengrin

[Iain G]

This is brilliant, from the (off the radar) record:



Yeah, he certainly showed them! Bet Big Mike Ashley is quaking in his boots. :greengrin

I don't know what planet these people operate on, somewhere outwith the bounds of common sense, logic or reality! Ashely owes them money, how?!? :confused:

[JimBHibees]

This is brilliant, from the (off the radar) record:



Yeah, he certainly showed them! Bet Big Mike Ashley is quaking in his boots. :greengrin

Staring down the South African authorities, he paid them 40m if that is winning. Dear oh dear. Laughable.

[Hank Schrader]

This is brilliant, from the (off the radar) record:



Yeah, he certainly showed them! Bet Big Mike Ashley is quaking in his boots. :greengrin

Whoever penned that should be ashamed to call themselves a journalist. Total and utter nonsense.

[emerald green]

The sad thing is that the first part of your post is not true. The boards of clubs in Scotland have not spoken out against any of this. Have we heard anything from Rod Petrie?

SFA statement said the board had received "specialist" (whatever that means) legal advice in Scotland and South Africa and could confirm King had passed the fit & proper person test.

I could be wrong here, but was Rod Petrie not part of the group which made this decision?

What I would like to know is how the SFA board came to this decision. What's the chances of that ever being made public? It stinks.

[AlbertK86]

SFA statement said the board had received "specialist" (whatever that means) legal advice in Scotland and South Africa and could confirm King had passed the fit & proper person test. I could be wrong here, but was Rod Petrie not part of the group which made this decision? What I would like to know is how the SFA board came to this decision. What's the chances of that ever being made public? It stinks.

Specialist legal advice from Donald Findlay - the unbiased QC

[Onion]

So, a 'glib and shameless liar' according to a South African judge but a proper person to be running a Scottish professional football club according to our authorities. :hilarious

What is it with Rangers and these absolute shysters? They're a constant reminder that sc*m does well and truly attract sc*m.

It's wholly appropriate that someone like that is regarded by the Scottish football authorities as a fit and proper person to run Sevco. The club is steeped in hatred, dishonesty, violence, financial mismanagement and corruption. And it reconfirms to all objective observers what we've all assumed for decades, that the game is ultimately run for benefit of 2 clubs in Scotland.

Add this to the long and growing list of incredible decisions favouring Sevco and the OF. Expect more at the game tonight and on Saturday.

[Jack Hackett]

SFA statement said the board had received "specialist" (whatever that means) legal advice in Scotland and South Africa and could confirm King had passed the fit & proper person test.

I could be wrong here, but was Rod Petrie not part of the group which made this decision?

What I would like to know is how the SFA board came to this decision. What's the chances of that ever being made public? It stinks.

I can imagine the 'advice'

Q: "Can we get away with it?"
A: "Who's going to contest it? You're a law unto yourselves".

[grunt]

Bizarre interview with King in the Scotsman

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rangers-are-incredibly-strong-financially-king-1-3780172

This bit in particular, about Ashley's call for a General meeting regarding his loan


The general meeting is a bit of a nonsense because the shareholders can’t tell the board how to behave

Isn't that how him and his pals got into power?

[CropleyWasGod]

Bizarre interview with King in the Scotsman

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rangers-are-incredibly-strong-financially-king-1-3780172

This bit in particular, about Ashley's call for a General meeting regarding his loan



Isn't that how him and his pals got into power?
The shareholders own the company. They employ the board. Of course they can tell them how to behave.

[Iain G]

Bizarre interview with King in the Scotsman

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rangers-are-incredibly-strong-financially-king-1-3780172

This bit in particular, about Ashley's call for a General meeting regarding his loan



Isn't that how him and his pals got into power?

The man is a crook and liar and a fantastist. The latest in a long line of self delusional self proclaimed saviours of this rancid and rotten institution.

[Keith_M]

King has allegedly given The Rangers 'emergency funding', i.e. another loan, just to keep the lights on for another month yet he's in the papers today claiming they are one of the financially strongest clubs in the world.

He's also publicly trying to shame McCoist into giving up his well paid gardening leave.

[weecounty hibby]

King has allegedly given The Rangers 'emergency funding', i.e. another loan, just to keep the lights on for another month yet he's in the papers today claiming they are one of the financially strongest clubs in the world.

He's also publicly trying to shame McCoist into giving up his well paid gardening leave.
It was Douglas Park that gave them the £1.5m loan I think. As far as I can see the lying King has so far put in the square root of sod all into keeping them going. I hope that he is another in the mould of white and green. And I say well done Ally, a hun prick of the highest order but draining them for cash gets him some praise from me

[Keith_M]

It was Douglas Park that gave them the £1.5m loan I think. As far as I can see the lying King has so far put in the square root of sod all into keeping them going. I hope that he is another in the mould of white and green. And I say well done Ally, a hun prick of the highest order but draining them for cash gets him some praise from me


Cheers, I did find it unlikely that King would put his hand in his pocket.

[Onceinawhile]

I know king is likely non resident, but does anyone know of he claims to be non domiciled in the UK?

[CockneyRebel]

They thought **** everyone else and that they could finish 2nd every year, take all the prize money on offer and leave other clubs behind.

That worked well for them then - I'm not sure of Aberdeen's agenda but it was a glorious opportunity to break the OF monopoly and yet they still control Scottish football.

[PatHead]

That worked well for them then - I'm not sure of Aberdeen's agenda but it was a glorious opportunity to break the OF monopoly and yet they still control Scottish football.

They think they are a big club and tried to bully other clubs by demanding changes that other clubs didn't agree with. They therefore refused to agree on the money split thinking they would win with finishing second anyway and pull away from all the other clubs.

I dislike Aberdeen that much and have since the Miller and McLeish cheating days that I hope it snows there every day.

[Deansy]

Bizarre interview with King in the Scotsman

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rangers-are-incredibly-strong-financially-king-1-3780172

This bit in particular, about Ashley's call for a General meeting regarding his loan



Isn't that how him and his pals got into power?

'How many clubs in the world don’t have debt? Our balance sheet is incredibly strong for any football club in the world' - are the Huns and the 'Charity Thieves' using the same scriptwriter to save money ??. Statement is exactly the same as what comes out of the PBS. 2_clubs with so much in common and none of it welcome in decent, honest and civilised society.

[Billy Whizz]

King appointed Rangers Chairman

[Keith_M]

It was Douglas Park that gave them the £1.5m loan I think.


According to today's DR, it actually was King that supplied the latest emergency £1.5m loan.


Still waiting for his £50m/£30m/£20m investment (delete according to how recently he said it)

[weecounty hibby]

King has now loaned them £1.5m. Or one of his companies has. Let's hope that goes towards the losses incurred in Div1 next year

[greenginger]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3093620/Did-Scottish-FA-break-rules-process-granting-new-Rangers-chairman-Dave-King-fit-proper-status.html

Dirty tricks by the SFA to ensure King was F and P.

Seems the SFA Professional Game Board met, discussed and approved Paul Murray as F and P , but when it came to King , the smaller SFA Board took that decision ,excluding a few people from the decision making process.

And, yes our Rod is on both Boards.

[Spike Mandela]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3093620/Did-Scottish-FA-break-rules-process-granting-new-Rangers-chairman-Dave-King-fit-proper-status.html

Dirty tricks by the SFA to ensure King was F and P.

Seems the SFA Professional Game Board met, discussed and approved Paul Murray as F and P , but when it came to King , the smaller SFA Board took that decision ,excluding a few people from the decision making process.

And, yes our Rod is on both Boards.

The three excluded were from lower leagues, right? Something stinks.......as usual.

[Radium]

from the article

The current PGB consists of Rod Petrie (Hibs), Neil Doncaster (SPFL), Ralph Topping (SPFL), Peter Lawwell (Celtic), Duncan Fraser (Aberdeen), Mike Mulraney (Alloa), Sandy Stables (Highland League), Andrew Waddell (Lowland League), Stewart Regan (SFA chief executive), Campbell Ogilvie (SFA President) and Alan McRae (first vice-president of the SFA).

The main SFA board consists of Regan, Ogilvie, McRae, Petrie, Barrie Jackson, the independent non-executive director, Peter Lawwell, Ralph Topping and Tom Johnston of the Junior FA.

So those removed from the decision were: Duncan Fraser (Aberdeen), Mike Mulraney (Alloa), Sandy Stables (Highland League), Andrew Waddell (Lowland League)


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3093620/Did-Scottish-FA-break-rules-process-granting-new-Rangers-chairman-Dave-King-fit-proper-status.html#ixzz3aww58n29
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[Spike Mandela]

Ashley Vs King next stage.....

http://news.stv.tv/west-central/1321650-rangers-to-consider-move-to-block-future-mike-ashley-influence/

[Kavinho]

I've just picked up from the previous stv article that King is saying he made it clear that his investment was wholly dependant on him being passed as fit and proper by the sfa/spfl..

Is it outwith the bounds of possibility that those decision makers felt there was very real chance of a further collapse into armaggedon if they did not pass him, and felt as a result that they couldn't allow that to come to pass...?

[greenginger]

http://www.rangersinternationalfootballclub.com/images/staticcontent/documents/GM%20Notice%2025_5_15.pdf


As an alternative to Ashley's motion to repay him his dosh and release the securities held by Sports Direct, the Lying King is proposing a motion that the Rangers Board be instructed to renegotiate all Rangers/Sports Direct contracts.

Roll on the 12th June !

[Spike Mandela]

http://www.rangersinternationalfootballclub.com/images/staticcontent/documents/GM%20Notice%2025_5_15.pdf


As an alternative to Ashley's motion to repay him his dosh and release the securities held by Sports Direct, the Lying King is proposing a motion that the Rangers Board be instructed to renegotiate all Rangers/Sports Direct contracts.

Roll on the 12th June !

Excuse my ignoranc but if Ashley has a water tight contract can't he just say no?

The board of the wife and I are having a meeting with the bank and have instructed each other that we are renegotiating all mortgages and debts to a situation that benefits us.

[greenginger]

Excuse my ignoranc but if Ashley has a water tight contract can't he just say no?

The board of the wife and I are having a meeting with the bank and have instructed each other that we are renegotiating all mortgages and debts to a situation that benefits us.


Maybe King has been following the Greek financial saga too closely. :greengrin

I think its just bluff from King, and Ashley will, if no repayments are forthcoming, enforce his claim on the Rangers secured properties.

The shareholders cannot say we " did'nt ken " if they vote against repaying Big Mike.

[jacomo]

http://www.rangersinternationalfootballclub.com/images/staticcontent/documents/GM%20Notice%2025_5_15.pdf


As an alternative to Ashley's motion to repay him his dosh and release the securities held by Sports Direct, the Lying King is proposing a motion that the Rangers Board be instructed to renegotiate all Rangers/Sports Direct contracts.

Roll on the 12th June !

Amazing. Dave King has all this money to invest yet is trying to avoid repaying Mike Ashley's £5m loan?

[southern hibby]

Amazing. Dave King has all this money to invest yet is trying to avoid repaying Mike Ashley's £5m loan?

Was it not paying bills/ loans etc the reason they went into Liquidation and then started a new club. Please god let this happen again.
GGTTH

[Bostonhibby]

Amazing. Dave King has all this money to invest yet is trying to avoid repaying Mike Ashley's £5m loan?
Dodgy Dave is a billionaire on a Craig whyte scale. He obviously doesn't deal in humble millions. Its all been explained a couple of times / messiahs later by the daily ****** and the BBC (other the rangers media outlets are available)

[CallumLaidlaw]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/empty-seats-fir-park-make-5772252

I notice Mccall doesnt mention that there was 10,000 empty seats at Ibrox against us :rolleyes:

[Bostonhibby]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/empty-seats-fir-park-make-5772252

I notice Mccall doesnt mention that there was 10,000 empty seats at Ibrox against us :rolleyes:
To be fair those seats could belong to now defunct fans of the now defunct Glasgow rangers?

[jacomo]

Why don't the *****s offer more than 950 seats for their place then? Jeez...

[silverhibee]

Why don't the *****s offer more than 950 seats for their place then? Jeez...

They gave Motherwell 1000 tickets for tonights game, Motherwell wanted 2000, Motherwell have done the same as us and cut there allocation for the game at Fir Park.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stuart-mccall-fir-park-ticket-5771059

[jacomo]

They gave Motherwell 1000 tickets for tonights game, Motherwell wanted 2000, Motherwell have done the same as us and cut there allocation for the game at Fir Park.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stuart-mccall-fir-park-ticket-5771059

At least McCall is acknowledging that Rangers have caused all this - not that the article leads with this angle of course.

[Iain G]

If they don't go up what will this do to their business plan (assuming that King and Co have such a thing) given the extra income / sponsorship that they would get from being back in the SPL isn't going to be available? Or is this just a drop in the ocean for them?

Hubris and ego would suggest they are planning for being in the big league next year without develping any plan to stay down, hopefully they spend the summer scratching around in panic mode trying to put a team back together and appoint a new manager.

[Keith_M]

If they don't go up what will this do to their business plan (assuming that King and Co have such a thing) given the extra income / sponsorship that they would get from being back in the SPL isn't going to be available? Or is this just a drop in the ocean for them?

Hubris and ego would suggest they are planning for being in the big league next year without develping any plan to stay down, hopefully they spend the summer scratching around in panic mode trying to put a team back together and appoint a new manager.


Presuming they don't get promoted, any sensible owners of The Rangers would still have a massive advantage over the other Clubs in our Division.

They still have a massive support and, even with a boycott in place, they sold around 20k STs this season. I'd imagine that now their favoured leader, King, is in place, that will be even greater next season.

If the new Manager avoids the McCoist route, they could sign a mixture of experienced Premier level Players plus a host of the best youth prospects. They'll still have the money to offer wages higher than any Club outside Celtic, but they wouldn't have to get carried away and start handing out 15k a week contracts to their mates, like Coisty did.

However, there is always the trap that they have the opinion "we are The Rangers, and only the best will do", leading to them getting carried away again into unsustainable salaries. Who knows, only time will tell.

[Iain G]

Presuming they don't get promoted, any sensible owners of The Rangers would still have a massive advantage over the other Clubs in our Division.

They still have a massive support and, even with a boycott in place, they sold around 20k STs this season. I'd imagine that now their favoured leader, King, is in place, that will be even greater next season.

If the new Manager avoids the McCoist route, they could sign a mixture of experienced Premier level Players plus a host of the best youth prospects. They'll still have the money to offer wages higher than any Club outside Celtic, but they wouldn't have to get carried away and start handing out 15k a week contracts to their mates, like Coisty did.

However, there is always the trap that they have the opinion "we are The Rangers, and only the best will do", leading to them getting carried away again into unsustainable salaries. Who knows, only time will tell.

Oh you just know which way its going to go, especially with Dave Glib and Shameless and his ego and natual business acumen in charge :greengrin

[Keith_M]

Oh you just know which way its going to go, especially with Dave Glib and Shameless and his ego and natual business acumen in charge :greengrin


Let's hope so


:aok:

[truehibernian]

Are they not due McCoist and Alexander around £1.2 million combined (if they lose the Alexander appeal) ? Fair wedge of season ticket cash there for zip future return !

[Keith_M]

Are they not due McCoist and Alexander around £1.2 million combined (if they lose the Alexander appeal) ? Fair wedge of season ticket cash there for zip future return !


When was it that McCoist went on gardening leave?

I think they have to pay him around 70k per month until his one year notice period is up.

[Biggie]

This is a chance to showcase Scottish Football !!!?....then I think the fewer huns there the better.
I'd rather we showed empty seats that them singing their usual pish

[Waxy]

This is a chance to showcase Scottish Football !!!?....then I think the fewer huns there the better.
I'd rather we showed empty seats that them singing their usual pishExactly. If they keep it up they might end up playing each other 36 times a season.

[Lucius Apuleius]

Exactly. If they keep it up they might end up playing each other 36 times a season.

That in my opinion is there whole raison d'etre. EVERY hun or septic fan I speak to cannot understand why people do not support one of them. I have pointed the above out to them hunners and hunners of time that if people did not support their so called "diddy teams" they wouldn't have a league to play in. Usual answer is they would just eff off to engerlund.

[Eyrie]

That in my opinion is there whole raison d'etre. EVERY hun or septic fan I speak to cannot understand why people do not support one of them. I have pointed the above out to them hunners and hunners of time that if people did not support their so called "diddy teams" they wouldn't have a league to play in. Usual answer is they would just eff off to engerlund.

I wish they would. Problem is that England doesn't want them either.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Just remind me again how much debt the club that 'don't do walking away' walked away from when they liquidated. Wasn't it around £45 million?

[Bostonhibby]

I wish they would. Problem is that England doesn't want them either.
They really don't. Rampant sectarianism and a fortnightly repeat of what fans of the now defunct Glasgow rangers brought to Manchester isn't what the brand that is EPL wants or needs.

There really are very few football fans down here who want any of the uglies ruining their over priced entertainment or their cities.

[Keith_M]

Just remind me again how much debt the club that 'don't do walking away' walked away from when they liquidated. Wasn't it around £45 million?


Excluding the disputed Big Tax Case, I think it was nearer £70 million.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

When was it that McCoist went on gardening leave?

I think they have to pay him around 70k per month until his one year notice period is up.

Must have been Dec as it was McDonuts first game in charge when we pumped them 4 zip

[Keith_M]

Must have been Dec as it was McDonuts first game in charge when we pumped them 4 zip


Cheers. So that means they still have about 7 months at 70k a month to pay him.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Cheers. So that means they still have about 7 months at 70k a month to pay him.

Think so. That's a shame.

What a disgrace that he is still getting paid all that money. Talk about not learning from your mistakes

[Jack Hackett]

Think so. That's a shame.

What a disgrace that he is still getting paid all that money. Talk about not learning from your mistakes

Ach, it's only money....What does it matter?....as long as it's someone else's. Ask a yam.

[Bostonhibby]

Ach, it's only money....What does it matter?....as long as it's someone else's. Ask a yam.
Surely it's different? They owed it to themselves didn't they?

[Deansy]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/empty-seats-fir-park-make-5772252

I notice Mccall doesnt mention that there was 10,000 empty seats at Ibrox against us :rolleyes:

'Sturat McCall has accused Motherwell of putting another dent in the image of Scottish fooitball's image ....... '

A manager of the HUN accusing another club of damaging our game's image ??. Let me think, what story would media-outlets around the world report on -

A) Scottsh football club goes into liquidation after years of cheating.
B) Scottish football club refuses to give rivals more tickets after rivals refused to give them more tickets

Some necks are impervious to blow-torches, eh !!

Only the 'Daily R*tard' would actually print this, still loving and supporting the Hun despite them continuing to damage our image by having a convince tax-criminal as it's Chief Executive, a Chief Executive who was on the board that got caught cheating ..... Oops, sorry ...... was on the board that went into liquidation !!

[Joe6-2]

'Sturat McCall has accused Motherwell of putting another dent in the image of Scottish fooitball's image ....... '

A manager of the HUN accusing another club of damaging our game's image ??. Let me think, what story would media-outlets around the world report on -

A) Scottsh football club goes into liquidation after years of cheating.
B) Scottish football club refuses to give rivals more tickets after rivals refused to give them more tickets

Some necks are impervious to blow-torches, eh !!

Only the 'Daily R*tard' would actually print this, still loving and supporting the Hun despite them continuing to damage our image by having a convince tax-criminal as it's Chief Executive, a Chief Executive who was on the board that got caught cheating ..... Oops, sorry ...... was on the board that went into liquidation !!

Forever sc*m!

[Keith_M]

There's a couple of articles in The Herald on Sectarianism in Scottich Football and one guy in the comments section had the temerity to ask why these stories are always illustrated with pictures of Rangers and Celtc Fans.

According to him, Hibs and Hearts are just as sectarian.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/call-to-cut-public-cash-to-football-if-sectarianism-sanctions-ignored.127517102



You just couldn't make it up!

:rolleyes:

[Ozyhibby]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/30/971ec6e011446feb6a2e617c858ea66c.jpg

Washington Post calls it correctly.

[Hibs Class]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/30/971ec6e011446feb6a2e617c858ea66c.jpg

Washington Post calls it correctly.

That'll be the cue for an immediate Hun boycott of the phost :greengrin

[gaz1875]

That'll be the cue for an immediate Hun boycott of the phost :greengrin

Haha no lie :top marks

[Jack Hackett]

That'll be the cue for an immediate Hun boycott of the phost :greengrin

:faf:

[CallumLaidlaw]

I see Mark Warburton (ex Brentford) is now 1/2 with the bookies to be next Rangers manager

[Keith_M]

What time is the SPFL league reconstruction meeting today?

[CallumLaidlaw]

What time is the SPFL league reconstruction meeting today?

4.55pm

[Jack Hackett]

4.55pm

+ injury time

[Keith_M]

League reconstruction meeting looms ever nearer.............

[bingo70]

Who's out of contract for them now?

[greenginger]

League reconstruction meeting looms ever nearer.............


No need, its already agreed.

14 team premier next season. St Mirren stay up and Rangers, as play-off runners-up, get promoted. :greengrin

[Keith_M]

No need, its already agreed.

14 team premier next season. St Mirren stay up and Rangers, as play-off runners-up, get promoted. :greengrin


That would not surprise me in the least.

[Spike Mandela]

I see Mark Warburton (ex Brentford) is now 1/2 with the bookies to be next Rangers manager

It will depend on how much dough they can give him.

[Glory Lurker]

It will depend on how much dough they can give him.

Leaven it out!!!

[greenginger]

The Rangers GM on the 12th should be fun. All goodwill for the Lying King and Co gone and big Mike wanting his £ 5 million.

[Bostonhibby]

The Rangers GM on the 12th should be fun. All goodwill for the Lying King and Co gone and big Mike wanting his £ 5 million.

Was wondering when dodgy dave is finally going to produced some of his legendary, nay mythical, billlions - he does have them as the daily ****** says so. Maybe the GM on the glorious 12th will be the day :greengrin

[ballengeich]

Was wondering when dodgy dave is finally going to produced some of his legendary, nay mythical, billlions - he does have them as the daily ****** says so. Maybe the GM on the glorious 12th will be the day :greengrin

However much he's planning to put in there's about £8 million of it going to be needed to cover next season's losses as the turnover's going to be a lot less than it would have been in the premier. Jetting in with a war chest to challenge Celtic will have to wait.

I don't doubt that King's very wealthy, but I do wonder how much of it's in resources that are easily convertible to cash. In addition I understand that South Africa has exchange controls restricting the amount that an individual can transfer out of the country each year. Given the attention SARS will be giving him, he'll have to take care that he follows the rules very carefully.

Their board has to announce its financial plans soon - before the GM seems sensible and necessary.

[Bostonhibby]

However much he's planning to put in there's about £8 million of it going to be needed to cover next season's losses as the turnover's going to be a lot less than it would have been in the premier. Jetting in with a war chest to challenge Celtic will have to wait.

I don't doubt that King's very wealthy, but I do wonder how much of it's in resources that are easily convertible to cash. In addition I understand that South Africa has exchange controls restricting the amount that an individual can transfer out of the country each year. Given the attention SARS will be giving him, he'll have to take care that he follows the rules very carefully.

Their board has to announce its financial plans soon - before the GM seems sensible and necessary.
Agree. I've never seen anything that suggests he will be doing anything with his own money - the rangers "men" don't and king still hasn't or at least not as implied.

Suspect he had other people's money lined up and there might just be a bit less of it. Today's shenanigans won't attract too much respectable corporate money so more of the same old seems likely.

[greenginger]

Ticket prices at Championship level rather than Champions League. :greengrin

[emerald green]

The Rangers GM on the 12th should be fun. All goodwill for the Lying King and Co gone and big Mike wanting his £ 5 million.

Is that the 12th of July?... :cb

[Lucius Apuleius]

Is that the 12th of July?... :cb

I jest not, I was in a meeting last week just after this date was announced and one hun said to the other that they should have postponed it for a month.

[Northernhibee]

It will depend on how much dough they can give him.

Bilel Moshni will be back under him next season. He'll be out there ciabatta opponents.

[Bostonhibby]

Is that the 12th of July?... :cb
If dodgy is looking to slip anything past them there's no better time than when they are all miles away pissed up somewhere banging a drum and paying homage to a 17th century foreigner in a camp looking wig astride a white horse

[Mr White]

Bilel Moshni will be back under him next season. He'll be out there ciabatta opponents.

That one's going to go stale pretty quickly if it keeps getting wheeled out :greengrin

[Northernhibee]

That one's going to go stale pretty quickly if it keeps getting wheeled out :greengrin

It just became relevant today! Let me earn my crust from it whilst I can!

[Mr White]

It just became relevant today! Let me earn my crust from it whilst I can!

:greengrin

[Northernhibee]

That one's going to go stale pretty quickly if it keeps getting wheeled out :greengrin

Having said it, so's my "following Cammy Bell's clanger the GK scout has been instructed to search focaccia" joke too!

[Jim44]

No need, its already agreed.

14 team premier next season. St Mirren stay up and Rangers, as play-off runners-up, get promoted. :greengrin

Nah, St Mirren stay put and we go up as runners-up in the Championship. :greengrin

[portycabbage]

I see Mark Warburton (ex Brentford) is now 1/2 with the bookies to be next Rangers manager

Not sure if he's a born and bread bluenose; and even Kingsmill-ions won't save them from the team from the yeast.

[Thecat23]

Hope this works 😂

https://www.facebook.com/glesga2bobrockits/videos/1634608566775506/

[trev the hat]

Hope this works 😂

https://www.facebook.com/glesga2bobrockits/videos/1634608566775506/

That's made my day TC 😄
Here we f****n go priceless & those goggles.
A right looker too 😄

[Thecat23]

That's made my day TC [emoji1]
Here we f****n go priceless & those goggles.
A right looker too [emoji1]

[emoji23] Glad you liked it, had me in fits laughing!!

[hibees 7062]

[emoji23] Glad you liked it, had me in fits laughing!!

What is it ?

[blackpoolhibs]

Hope this works 

https://www.facebook.com/glesga2bobrockits/videos/1634608566775506/



Not seen a lot of Alan Carr recently.

[Thecat23]

What is it ?

A Rangers fan having a wee sing along!!!

[trev the hat]

[emoji23] Glad you liked it, had me in fits laughing!!

The miming is the best haha
My neighbours prob heard me laughing.out loud.
Her & that yam sparky wound up both top notchers 👍

[Thecat23]

Not seen a lot of Alan Carr recently.

[emoji23][emoji23]

[scoopyboy]

Hope this works 

https://www.facebook.com/glesga2bobrockits/videos/1634608566775506/

Pure dead brilliant Big Man.

That's us tae a tee, so it iz.

[Thecat23]

Pure dead brilliant Big Man.

That's us tae a tee, so it iz.

Comedy gold Scoops [emoji16]

If I'm having a bad Monday tomorrow I'm playing that to cheer me up!

[hibees 7062]

A Rangers fan having a wee sing along!!!

Male ?

[Thecat23]

Male ?

Haha I've honestly no idea [emoji23]

[Bostonhibby]

Hope this works 😂

https://www.facebook.com/glesga2bobrockits/videos/1634608566775506/
Brilliant, [emoji106] I was wondering what Tubbs was doing after League of Gentlemen ended.

[zolliehibs]

Enjoyable thread purely for them turning on each other!

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=283745

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Enjoyable thread purely for them turning on each other!

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=283745

"We might be ***** but at least we're proddy *****. Could always be worse, we could be Fenians". No surrender".

They are a special breed of ********s

[HoboHarry]

Like CWG stated on Thursday - this might push DK into an administration event thinking that they will make up the 25 point penalty.....

[jacomo]

Like CWG stated on Thursday - this might push DK into an administration event thinking that they will make up the 25 point penalty.....

What debts would he be escaping? Avoid paying Ashley his £5m back?

Surely they've just shed a load of pricey player contracts so their wage bill will be a lot lower already.

The Lying King has been pretty quiet today, mind.

[Ozyhibby]

What debts would he be escaping? Avoid paying Ashley his £5m back?

Surely they've just shed a load of pricey player contracts so their wage bill will be a lot lower already.

The Lying King has been pretty quiet today, mind.

They also seem to be borrowing £1.5m every 6 weeks or so from 3 bears or DK.

[CropleyWasGod]

What debts would he be escaping? Avoid paying Ashley his £5m back?

Surely they've just shed a load of pricey player contracts so their wage bill will be a lot lower already.

The Lying King has been pretty quiet today, mind.

Those so-called "onerous contracts" might be escaped also.

[Billy Whizz]

Those so-called "onerous contracts" might be escaped also.

Crops, what do you think the value of these to Rangers could be?

[Bostonhibby]

If they go pop again I think Ashley is a secured creditor so whatever the security is, he should have first call.

[CropleyWasGod]

Crops, what do you think the value of these to Rangers could be?

TBH, I haven't seen the latest Rangers Retail accounts, so I'm not sure at all. Whatever they show will be your starting point However, if the Bears are genuinely boycotting RR, you can push that figure up. A lot.

This was the Record's version in December.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/for-every-10-spent-retail-4730464

[Billy Whizz]

TBH, I haven't seen the latest Rangers Retail accounts, so I'm not sure at all. Whatever they show will be your starting point However, if the Bears are genuinely boycotting RR, you can push that figure up. A lot.

This was the Record's version in December.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/for-every-10-spent-retail-4730464

So around £3.9 million or so less per year with the Sports direct deal, than the JJB deal, if I'm reading this right . Quite a considerable sum over 4/5 years or so

[Ozyhibby]

So around £3.9 million or so less per year with the Sports direct deal, than the JJB deal, if I'm reading this right . Quite a considerable sum over 4/5 years or so

I don't think new Rangers will be making much money from retail for the next 7 years. Even if they boycott it, the deal means the club have to buy any unsold stock.
I really believe they need another admin to get on an even keel.

[Brightside]

First time I've ever looked at their forum...this is the team they reckon for next season!!!

Mcgreggor

Paterson. Mcgreggor. Wilson. Wallace©

Macleod/Law. Murdoch. Allan

Vuckic

May. Erwin/Cummings


:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

[greenginger]

Sports Direct will have incurred a lot of costs in the management of Rangers Retail.

Buying out long leases on loss making retail outlets ( Glasgow Airport Unit a classic example of retail stupidity ), redundancy payments etc. all have to be met before any profit can trickle down to Sevco.

[PatHead]

Like CWG stated on Thursday - this might push DK into an administration event thinking that they will make up the 25 point penalty.....

Is it after 3 years that the 25 points drop off and it would be 15 points. If so, when did they go into liquidation?

[CropleyWasGod]

Is it after 3 years that the 25 points drop off and it would be 15 points. If so, when did they go into liquidation?

Pretty sure it's 5.

[portycabbage]

Like CWG stated on Thursday - this might push DK into an administration event thinking that they will make up the 25 point penalty.....

They'd have to make up a 15 point penalty the following season as well -

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/318228-spfl-clubs-vote-to-amend-insolvency-rules-at-hampden-general-meeting/

[PatHead]

Pretty sure it's 5.

5 years not 5 points I hope.:greengrin

[pontius pilate]

I have heard that investigations are underway by fraud officers on David King relating to financial irregularities. I'm not sure if the person in charge is legit but he does have a connection to someone within that field who has loosely confirmed it. God I hope it's true as I wouldn't be able to stop laughing

[CropleyWasGod]

They'd have to make up a 15 point penalty the following season as well -

http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/318228-spfl-clubs-vote-to-amend-insolvency-rules-at-hampden-general-meeting/

Good spot..... didn't know that. :greengrin

[magpie1892]

First time I've ever looked at their forum...this is the team they reckon for next season!!!

Mcgreggor

Paterson. Mcgreggor. Wilson. Wallace©

Macleod/Law. Murdoch. Allan

Vuckic

May. Erwin/Cummings


:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

'Mcgreggor' (sic) as 'rush goalie' and centre-half, then? That's the only bit that's indicative of the financial state they are in.

[Callum_62]

delightful

http://www.vanguardbears.co.uk/article.php?i=60&a=are-we-overreacting

[Geo_1875]

delightful

http://www.vanguardbears.co.uk/article.php?i=60&a=are-we-overreacting

What a wonderful piece of writing on a simply wonderful website... NOT.

A piece of **** showing an ingrained sense of entitlement.

[J-C]

delightful

http://www.vanguardbears.co.uk/article.php?i=60&a=are-we-overreacting


This sentence says it all

We will never be a force in Europe, that’s not our aim at this time, I’d happily settle for the last 16 in Europe on a regular basis, but right now that is as likely as the Bheasts being held accountable for their abuse of kids.

[Keith_M]

delightful

http://www.vanguardbears.co.uk/article.php?i=60&a=are-we-overreacting


"we have traditions and history that no club in the world can rival"

Can't argue with that, as I'm not aware of any other club that had a ban on signing RCs.


...and here we get to the crux of the matter....

"You’re the man with cash, put up..."


Show me the money!

[Deansy]

delightful

http://www.vanguardbears.co.uk/article.php?i=60&a=are-we-overreacting

'Simply put, we will now struggle to survive. This isn’t an overreaction, this is fact'


Scotland and the rest of civilised world dearly hope THIS turns out to be the case !

[Mikey09]

delightful

http://www.vanguardbears.co.uk/article.php?i=60&a=are-we-overreacting


"We are going to be another Leeds Utd.... In other words we will BECOME ordinary."

Sorry to burst yer wee bubble pal but you're already way below ordinary. Tit.

[Stevie Reid]

Having talks with Warburton: -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32972187

[Hermit Crab]

Having talks with Warburton: -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32972187


He'll not have a clue what he's getting into. If there's not instant success he will be hounded out sharpish. Plus there's no money to spend.

[brog]

He'll not have a clue what he's getting into. If there's not instant success he will be hounded out sharpish. Plus there's no money to spend.

He's also probably unaware that a PhD in the events of 1690 is an essential part of his CV if he wishes to be considered for the position. The ability to say "we're" instead of "our" & calling everyone taller than Frankie Dettori "big man" would also be helpful attributes!

[Brightside]

'Mcgreggor' (sic) as 'rush goalie' and centre-half, then? That's the only bit that's indicative of the financial state they are in.

They mean alan mcgregor i think.

[Bostonhibby]

"we have traditions and history that no club in the world can rival"

Can't argue with that, as I'm not aware of any other club that had a ban on signing RCs.


...and here we get to the crux of the matter....

"You’re the man with cash, put up..."


Show me the money!
What other club, or indeed society or species would want that culture or "history"?

The history is in fact pretty one dimensional and not that exciting or honourable when compared with any number of clubs, but why worry about facts when they can barely string a sentence together never mind research anything!

[GreenLake]

"we have traditions and history that no club in the world can rival"

Can't argue with that, as I'm not aware of any other club that had a ban on signing RCs.


...and here we get to the crux of the matter....

"You’re the man with cash, put up..."


Show me the money!

that ninety nine percent of the planet are blissfully ignorant of.

[southsider]

He's also probably unaware that a PhD in the events of 1690 is an essential part of his CV if he wishes to be considered for the position. The ability to say "we're" instead of "our" & calling everyone taller than Frankie Dettori "big man" would also be helpful attributes!
And end every sentence with "in that"

[Keith_M]

He's also probably unaware that a PhD in the events of 1690 is an essential part of his CV if he wishes to be considered for the position. The ability to say "we're" instead of "our" & calling everyone taller than Frankie Dettori "big man" would also be helpful attributes!


It's not 'we're', it's 'wur'.


As in, 'wur back four wur excellent the day'.

[hibees 7062]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11393070_483493818472341_5394408198104453617_n.jpg ?oh=691629d8edf236f2d1e6cee37947985c&oe=56030A49

[Hermit Crab]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11393070_483493818472341_5394408198104453617_n.jpg ?oh=691629d8edf236f2d1e6cee37947985c&oe=56030A49


Only one or two regular starters in that list. Not unexpected either. The new manager has a job on his hands.

[Bostonhibby]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11393070_483493818472341_5394408198104453617_n.jpg ?oh=691629d8edf236f2d1e6cee37947985c&oe=56030A49

Some real dead weights in there, probably better to just weigh them rather than list them?

Boyd, Black, Elbows and Daly to the yams? Potter won't be able to resist.

[jacomo]

He'll not have a clue what he's getting into. If there's not instant success he will be hounded out sharpish. Plus there's no money to spend.

Warburton did a fine job at Brentford but Rangers a whole new ball game.

Also, he likes his teams to play football, but will surely take a big change in culture to make that happen there.

I'm surprised Ashley doesn't want him for Newcastle - maybe he's just biding his time before scuppering the deal? :wink:

[magpie1892]

They mean alan mcgregor i think.

Really? You think?

[Bostonhibby]

Warburton did a fine job at Brentford but Rangers a whole new ball game.

Also, he likes his teams to play football, but will surely take a big change in culture to make that happen there.

I'm surprised Ashley doesn't want him for Newcastle - maybe he's just biding his time before scuppering the deal? :wink:

On the BBC site saying he wants to understand the "chemistry" at the rangers - I'd be more concerned about the bigotry.

He's a decent guy and manager by all accounts - wonder if he has got a moral compass / principles? Plenty other clubs around.

Edit - maybe he meant chemicals?:greengrin

[worcesterhibby]

Warburton did a fine job at Brentford but Rangers a whole new ball game.

Also, he likes his teams to play football, but will surely take a big change in culture to make that happen there.

I'm surprised Ashley doesn't want him for Newcastle - maybe he's just biding his time before scuppering the deal? :wink:

Let's hope it takes them quite a while to make their minds up and ensure their re-building process is slow. If we can get out the blocks like Hearts did last year and stay consistent, we might just be out of sight before they are organised.

[hfc rd]

Let's hope it takes them quite a while to make their minds up and ensure their re-building process is slow. If we can get out the blocks like Hearts did last year and stay consistent, we might just be out of sight before they are organised.


This.

[AlbertK86]

Anybody read what the bigots are saying about us getting Danny Carmichael

They seemed to think they were signing him

[HoboHarry]

This.

Given they are not even sure who their manager will be I think it's a given that they will take a while to get geared up for next season.

[Deansy]

Anybody read what the bigots are saying about us getting Danny Carmichael

They seemed to think they were signing him

Aye, read that

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=283879

I'm consoling myself (for now) that we're setting ourselves up to employ a forward thinking manager who'll be adequately supported in his player acquisition strategy and it means that players that are of interest to Hibs etc. are off our radar for a very good reason.

The very good reason being that we're interested in FOOTBALL-PLAYERS - I.E. Guys who can play the game and NOT the flute ??


Despite Sunday's result, it seems 'Humility', 'Realism' and 'Intelligence' are just 3 of the character-traits that your everyday-Hun still avoids like the plague.

[ancient hibee]

"we have traditions and history that no club in the world can rival"

Can't argue with that, as I'm not aware of any other club that had a ban on signing RCs.


...and here we get to the crux of the matter....

"You’re the man with cash, put up..."


Show me the money!


It's a well known FACT in Hunnish circles that the failure to go on to conquer Europe after winning the Cup Winners Cup was due to the plans to relax the rules about signing RCs-it only took another 12 years.

[hibees 7062]

Some real dead weights in there, probably better to just weigh them rather than list them?

Boyd, Black, Elbows and Daly to the yams? Potter won't be able to resist.

I would take Smith

[Mikey09]

Some real dead weights in there, probably better to just weigh them rather than list them?

Boyd, Black, Elbows and Daly to the yams? Potter won't be able to resist.


Said to my yam pal tonight potter would sign him. He didn't say anything.... Think they have accepted potter will sign the usual suspects like he does everywhere he goes.

[Bostonhibby]

Said to my yam pal tonight potter would sign him. He didn't say anything.... Think they have accepted potter will sign the usual suspects like he does everywhere he goes.
Exactly the type of player potter likes. Probably play him on the wing.

[Ozyhibby]

Apart from their short statement about Moshni there has been complete silence from Ibrox this week. I would have thought there might have been some reassuring words for their fans that they have a plan to turn things around. Have they got season tickets on sale yet?

[jacomo]

Apart from their short statement about Moshni there has been complete silence from Ibrox this week. I would have thought there might have been some reassuring words for their fans that they have a plan to turn things around. Have they got season tickets on sale yet?

Someone posted in here a furious rant from a Follower about this exact subject.

Where is Dave King in all this? He seemingly wasn't at Fir Park.

Tom English wrote a great BBC blog on King's various, er, contradictions so far.

[Keith_M]

Someone posted in here a furious rant from a Follower about this exact subject.

Where is Dave King in all this? He seemingly wasn't at Fir Park.

Tom English wrote a great BBC blog on King's various, er, contradictions so far.


King has to be careful about how many days he stays in the UK, to avoid being liable to UK Taxes.

As for his various investment promises......................

[jacomo]

King has to be careful about how many days he stays in the UK, to avoid being liable to UK Taxes.

As for his various investment promises......................

Well, quite.

Shame there is no way of watching Rangers games in SA (he actually said this!!) and no technology exists for him to get a message to the supporters from his SA lair...

Perhaps he's sent a letter outlining his plans which a flunky can read out on the steps of Ibrox? Hopefully sent via airmail, as the faithful might be getting restless.

[MKHIBEE]

Really? You think?
Is that you Gibbs?

[Ozyhibby]

Given how short of cash they are it seems strange they have not started selling season tickets. I'm wondering if the are contemplating admin. If the rumours about the money that gets taken out of Ibrox every month by Ashley, Green etc are true it may be the only choice available to the new regime. By not collecting the season ticket money first they could be trying to retain some goodwill with the fans?
Just guessing but the silence this week is baffling.

[Keith_M]

They seek him here
They seek him there
They seek that Dave King everywhere
Is he in Heaven
Or is he in Hell..........

.....or maybe he's finally in a Jail Cell.




With apologies to Emma Orczy.

[greenginger]

Given how short of cash they are it seems strange they have not started selling season tickets. I'm wondering if the are contemplating admin. If the rumours about the money that gets taken out of Ibrox every month by Ashley, Green etc are true it may be the only choice available to the new regime. By not collecting the season ticket money first they could be trying to retain some goodwill with the fans?
Just guessing but the silence this week is baffling.



I thought they were holding off so they could price the season tickets at premiership prices once promotion had been confirmed.

[Future17]

Is that you Gibbs?

:greengrin

[hibees 7062]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11407151_1419374668386599_8432484713416178826_n.jp g?oh=48e84ab49cd1d4377765225f91e67ff5&oe=55F8966D

[Stax]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11407151_1419374668386599_8432484713416178826_n.jp g?oh=48e84ab49cd1d4377765225f91e67ff5&oe=55F8966D
:greengrin

[jonty]

Rangers board to ignore Mike Ashley loan demand
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rangers-board-to-ignore-mike-ashley-loan-demand-1-3792217

How is that even possible?

[matty_f]

Rangers board to ignore Mike Ashley loan demand
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rangers-board-to-ignore-mike-ashley-loan-demand-1-3792217

How is that even possible?

Fingers in the ears, shut the eyes, and shout "la la la la la la la la" until the big bad boy goes away?

[CraigHibee]

Rangers board to ignore Mike Ashley loan demand
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rangers-board-to-ignore-mike-ashley-loan-demand-1-3792217

How is that even possible?

totally, its got me confused too, surely if he loaned them money and has asked for it back they can't just say "up yours, your not getting it" maybe they don't have the money to pay back? (which is more than likely), i thought dave king was supposed to be their "knight in shining armour" more like the conman wrapped in the tin foil found in a junkie's govan garden!

[Newry Hibs]

totally, its got me confused too, surely if he loaned them money and has asked for it back they can't just say "up yours, your not getting it" maybe they don't have the money to pay back? (which is more than likely), i thought dave king was supposed to be their "knight in shining armour" more like the conman wrapped in the tin foil found in a junkie's govan garden!

Unless there was a clause that MASH lent (or made available) the money for a long term and is now just saying 'can I have it back now', so TRFC can say 'not yet'.

[Bostonhibby]

Rangers board to ignore Mike Ashley loan demand
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rangers-board-to-ignore-mike-ashley-loan-demand-1-3792217

How is that even possible?

:confused:Maybe they are going to treat him like the tax man and all those other unfortunate creditors that their predecessors the now defunct Glasgow rangers ignored because they thought they were something above the law?

Their problem this time will be that the net will close much quicker - at the end of the day this was a commercial loan - business to business and there is no way the new boys will be able to argue they are not bound by the loan so long as its terms are not actually illegal.

If they exist they owe the money - they took it quick enough, same with the players that they never thought twice about playing when they were fit.

If King has all the assets the media have hyped for him then its a drop in the ocean - he wanted the club, he got it via popular support on the back of expectation of money being thrown at it and problems solved. It's time to show der hun the money or the natives might just get a bit restless.

[Ozyhibby]

Unless there was a clause that MASH lent (or made available) the money for a long term and is now just saying 'can I have it back now', so TRFC can say 'not yet'.

Aren't they in breach of the term of the loan though by not letting Mash have two directors?

[southern hibby]

Maybe just maybe we are going to get our close season football fix via these two heavyweights and the media.
Not sure how this will pan out but saying your no getting yet 5 mill and we want to renegotiate our contract reference merchandise instead is going to really be top of Ashley's agenda to get addressed
One thing I do know the longer this goes on the more disorganised the newest club in Scotland will be starting the season.
GGTTH

[Keith_M]

Aren't they in breach of the term of the loan though by not letting Mash have two directors?


I think that only applied if they took the second 5 mill.

[CropleyWasGod]

Rangers board to ignore Mike Ashley loan demand
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rangers-board-to-ignore-mike-ashley-loan-demand-1-3792217

How is that even possible?

It's what real businesses do. :cb

It'll end in legal action.

[hibees 7062]

Rangers board to ignore Mike Ashley loan demand
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rangers-board-to-ignore-mike-ashley-loan-demand-1-3792217

How is that even possible?

Ask hertz

[Onion]

Maybe just maybe we are going to get our close season football fix via these two heavyweights and the media.
Not sure how this will pan out but saying your no getting yet 5 mill and we want to renegotiate our contract reference merchandise instead is going to really be top of Ashley's agenda to get addressed
One thing I do know the longer this goes on the more disorganised the newest club in Scotland will be starting the season.
GGTTH

Difference to 2012 is they are dealing with a guy who really doesn't care, has massive amounts of cash to fight them, holds valuable security over their assets and won't be intimidated by their usual fan threats.

[Keith_M]

I've just prepared a letter to the bank, based on the The Rangers official statement.


"The [members of my family] do not consider that, at this time, the repayment of [the mortgage] to [the bank] is the best use of the [household]'s resources."
....
"The [members] accordingly recommend voting Against [ever paying it back]."



Feel free to try it out for yourselves, but I refuse to accept any responsibility for the consequences :wink:

[Andy74]

I've just prepared a letter to the bank, based on the The Rangers official statement.


"The [members of my family] do not consider that, at this time, the repayment of [the mortgage] to [the bank] is the best use of the [household]'s resources."
....
"The [members] accordingly recommend voting Against [ever paying it back]."



Feel free to try it out for yourselves, but I refuse to accept any responsibility for the consequences :wink:

Its not really the same though is it?

Its more like the bank writing to you and asking for you, despite your mortgage agreement, to pay them back all the money they loaned you immediately.

I think you would probably be looking at your agreement and saying no if you could as well.

[Prof. Shaggy]

It's what real businesses do. :cb

It'll end in legal action.

...followed by Administration?:clapper:

[Oscar T Grouch]

Its not really the same though is it?

Its more like the bank writing to you and asking for you, despite your mortgage agreement, to pay them back all the money they loaned you immediately.

I think you would probably be looking at your agreement and saying no if you could as well.

Maybe MASH want their cash back because they've removed MASH's reps from the board, which I believe was part of the loan agreement? Might be wrong though.

[brog]

[QUOTE=Andy74;4391804]Its not really the same though is it?

Its more like the bank writing to you and asking for you, despite your mortgage agreement, to pay them back all the money they loaned you immediately.

which is what happens to thousands of people each year, usually resulting in repossession! :wink:

[PatHead]

Maybe MASH want their cash back because they've removed MASH's reps from the board, which I believe was part of the loan agreement? Might be wrong though.

Fair point. Ashley is a hard nosed businessman and no fool. He will know exactly what he is doing.

[tanfield]

Unless you know the actual terms of the loan and what constitutes a "default" then we don't know if the demand is valid or not.

If the demand is valid and the monies remain outstanding then Ashley will be able to enforce his (MASH) security.


Interesting stuff.

[Andy74]

[QUOTE=Andy74;4391804]Its not really the same though is it?

Its more like the bank writing to you and asking for you, despite your mortgage agreement, to pay them back all the money they loaned you immediately.

which is what happens to thousands of people each year, usually resulting in repossession! :wink:

It is generally as a result of a default though which doesn't seem to be the case here.

As others have noted, the agreement will provide for whether the loan can be terminated at the request of the provider or not. If he is asking for a general meeting instead of just using the terms of the agreement I suspect not.

[jacomo]

Maybe just maybe we are going to get our close season football fix via these two heavyweights and the media.
Not sure how this will pan out but saying your no getting yet 5 mill and we want to renegotiate our contract reference merchandise instead is going to really be top of Ashley's agenda to get addressed
One thing I do know the longer this goes on the more disorganised the newest club in Scotland will be starting the season.
GGTTH

Just like when he urged fans to boycott season tickets (or pay the money into a separate fund instead), King seems to be encouraging fans to shun the merch in an effort to force Ashley to renegotiate the contracts.

High stakes.

[Jim44]

With all these references to MASH, the words of the theme song from the TV programme, MASH, are very appropriate and prophetic. -

Through early morning fog I see
visions of the things to be
the pains that are withheld for me
I realize and I can see...
[REFRAIN]:
that suicide is painless
it brings on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please.
I try to find a way to make
all our little joys relate
without that ever-present hate
but now I know that it's too late, and...
[REFRAIN]
The game of life is hard to play
I'm gonna lose it anyway
The losing card I'll someday lay
so this is all I have to say.
[REFRAIN]
The only way to win is cheat
And lay it down before I'm beat
and to another give my seat
for that's the only painless feat.
[REFRAIN]
The sword of time will pierce our skins
It doesn't hurt when it begins
But as it works its way on in
The pain grows stronger...watch it grin, but...
[REFRAIN]
A brave man once requested me
to answer questions that are key
is it to be or not to be
and I replied 'oh why ask me?'
[REFRAIN]
'Cause suicide is painless
it brings on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please.
...and you can do the same thing if you please.

[Keith_M]

Its not really the same though is it?

Its more like the bank writing to you and asking for you, despite your mortgage agreement, to pay them back all the money they loaned you immediately.

I think you would probably be looking at your agreement and saying no if you could as well.


I bet you're a great laugh at Parties.

[Cropley10]

[QUOTE=brog;4391826]

It is generally as a result of a default though which doesn't seem to be the case here.

As others have noted, the agreement will provide for whether the loan can be terminated at the request of the provider or not. If he is asking for a general meeting instead of just using the terms of the agreement I suspect not.

My understanding is that MA believes the Clumpany has breached the terms of the Loan, materially and allowing the Company de-list is one aspect of this.

I know for a fact that MA has got some expert legal representation here in Scotland, and would offer that he and they know precisely what they're doing; he's lent them money to keep them alive and King thinks he can stick two fingers up at him...

[Ozyhibby]

I very much doubt that Mike Ashley will be out manoeuvred here. It is hard to judge what he is exactly up too most of the time but I doubt he will be beat by King.

[KeithTheHibby]

I bet you're a great laugh at Parties.

:faf:

[Andy74]

[QUOTE=Andy74;4391841]

My understanding is that MA believes the Clumpany has breached the terms of the Loan, materially and allowing the Company de-list is one aspect of this.

I know for a fact that MA has got some expert legal representation here in Scotland, and would offer that he and they know precisely what they're doing; he's lent them money to keep them alive and King thinks he can stick two fingers up at him...

You would think if he felt there had been a default he could comfortably use the agreement itself to withdraw the facility or request repayment and go down the legal route if it is not paid as requested. I don't get why he has to go down the GM route in that circumstance?

[Radium]

http://www.sfm.scot/sfm-the-next-steps/comment-page-25/?cid=56311

Seems a a reasonable assessment and if nothing else suggests that King is a very wealthy individual [suggests a net worth of £26M], but not on the scale that TRFC need. Others with better financial knowledge may be able to comment.

I realise that the author may not be absolutely impartial :tin hat:

[CropleyWasGod]

http://www.sfm.scot/sfm-the-next-steps/comment-page-25/?cid=56311

Seems a a reasonable assessment and if nothing else suggests that King is a very wealthy individual [suggests a net worth of £26M], but not on the scale that TRFC need. Others with better financial knowledge may be able to comment.

I realise that the author may not be absolutely impartial :tin hat:

Interesting article. The guy seems to have done a fair bit of homework.

I'm not going to get all forensic on his own forensics, but if £26m is what he has available in cash, there's no way he is going to, or should, invest much more than a drop of that in TRFC.

[ancient hibee]

Goldman Sachs are on the Ashley payroll-don't think he'll miss many tricks.As an example Rangers were shouting about how they were going to reveal the retail offshoot arrangements-they've been warned off.

[emerald green]

Rangers board to ignore Mike Ashley loan demand
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rangers-board-to-ignore-mike-ashley-loan-demand-1-3792217

How is that even possible?

This strategy (joke) of choosing what debts to pay, and which not, worked out well for the oldco the last time. :rolleyes:

When they didn't have a pot to p*** in they go crawling for cash to keep the lights on, but now when the terms don't seem so good anymore they welch on the deal.

Same old newco, just like oldco.

[jacomo]

http://www.sfm.scot/sfm-the-next-steps/comment-page-25/?cid=56311

Seems a a reasonable assessment and if nothing else suggests that King is a very wealthy individual [suggests a net worth of £26M], but not on the scale that TRFC need. Others with better financial knowledge may be able to comment.

I realise that the author may not be absolutely impartial :tin hat:

Barcabhoy :hilarious

Pure guess work as to how much money King has got, but if remotely accurate he won't be able to sink £30m in as he once claimed he would do.

[grunt]

Sunday. The second sentence appears incomplete.

Rangers will name new manager on Friday

Rangers director Paul Murray has revealed that the club will name its new manager on Friday. Stuart McCall, the interim manager since Kenny McDowall stepped down in March.
McCall remains in the frame for the job, but Mark Warburton has been installed as favourite by bookmakers. Alex McLeish is also understood to be in the running.
The announcement will coincide with a controversial meeting held by Mike Ashley which will ask shareholders whether the club should repay his £5 million loan.

[CropleyWasGod]

Another hatchet job on King?

https://rangerssupportersloyal.wordpress.com/2015/06/05/the-sound-of-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-1381

[AlbertK86]

Another hatchet job on King? https://rangerssupportersloyal.wordpress.com/2015/06/05/the-sound-of-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-1381

Smashing read !!

Looks like there may be some fun to be had in the weeks ahead !!

[gaz1875]

Another hatchet job on King?

https://rangerssupportersloyal.wordpress.com/2015/06/05/the-sound-of-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-1381

Interesting if true, which I wouldn't doubt by King's absence :greengrin

[s.a.m]

Smashing read !!

Looks like there may be some fun to be had in the weeks ahead !!

What's the 'vigorous legal action after June 12th'? Apologies if I've missed something obvious...

[grunt]

What's the 'vigorous legal action after June 12th'? Apologies if I've missed something obvious...Presumably from Mike Ashley once he's formally told after the GM on 12 June that he's not getting his loan repaid?

[s.a.m]

Presumably from Mike Ashley once he's formally told after the GM on 12 June that he's not getting his loan repaid?

Ahh..
:aok:

[greenlex]

Another hatchet job on King?

https://rangerssupportersloyal.wordpress.com/2015/06/05/the-sound-of-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-1381That was a pleasant few minutes reading. :thumbsup:

[bingo70]

That was a pleasant few minutes reading. :thumbsup:

Is it not just the ramblings of a pissed off hun rather than anything that's actually likely to happen though?

[AlbertK86]

Is it not just the ramblings of a pissed off hun rather than anything that's actually likely to happen though?

Sounded a it more educated than yer average sevconian.... But that ain't hard mind !!

[Deansy]

Rangers board to ignore Mike Ashley loan demand
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rangers-board-to-ignore-mike-ashley-loan-demand-1-3792217

How is that even possible?

Sadly, 'The Scotsman' these days is nothing more than an East Coast version of the 'Daily R*tard' - the headline shoud say 'Rangers board WOULD LIKE/PREFER to ignore Mike Ashley loan demand' but it can't, it can only ASK it's shareholders. Ok, it's highly unlikely they would agree to it as they haven't tippled that King as just the latest crook (albeit a proven one) to be in charge and so is currently more popular than MA but the headline is just another 'WE'RE RANGERS - WE DECIDE' ego-massage for the moron-loyal.

[Jack Hackett]

Is it not just the ramblings of a pissed off hun rather than anything that's actually likely to happen though?

The ramblings of a pissed off hun not impressed with the happy clappy persona the vast majority of the illiterate hordes have lined up behind. As Albert says, he seems more 'educated' shall we say, than the average zombie...he even manages to do the whole post without mentioning caffliks or using gutter language. I love it when there's only a handful in a crowd who can smell the smell the ****, but can't stop the headlong rush to dive in.

:lolrangers:

[Deansy]

Another hatchet job on King?

https://rangerssupportersloyal.wordpress.com/2015/06/05/the-sound-of-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-1381

'In the mist of all this'

Haven't a foggy (I know - :embarrass) what he/she/it means, presumably 'MIDST' was the aim ?

Love it when the Hun gets use of a PC and has to communicate with words rather than grunts - they must think it somehow disguises the damage/affliction caused by generations of in-breeding !!.

[grunt]

Love it when the Hun gets use of a PC and has to communicate with words rather than grunts - they must think it somehow disguises the damage/affliction caused by generations of in-breeding !!.
It could just have been a typo ...

[Iggy Pope]

Sadly, 'The Scotsman' these days is nothing more than an East Coast version of the 'Daily R*tard' - the headline shoud say 'Rangers board WOULD LIKE/PREFER to ignore Mike Ashley loan demand' but it can't, it can only ASK it's shareholders. Ok, it's highly unlikely they would agree to it as they haven't tippled that King as just the latest crook (albeit a proven one) to be in charge and so is currently more popular than MA but the headline is just another 'WE'RE RANGERS - WE DECIDE' ego-massage for the moron-loyal.

Totally unrelated to the financial shenanigans, but a couple of weeks back the Blue Order rolled out one of their cringe worthy 'wordy' banners. One that blabbed on about "no true Ranger ever failed in the traditions etc etc blah blah blah"
When I asked my resident hun colleague about that Motherwell effort that looped over Cummy Welt's heid, he reckoned that Cummy was 'worried about the post behind him'...oh how I scoffed about these True Rangers'. The Iron Curtain must be spinning in their graves.

[eezyrider]

Derek Mcinnes apparently has just been confirmed as manager. The man's insane if true.

EZ

[bingo70]

Derek Mcinnes apparently has just been confirmed as manager. The man's insane if true.

EZ

No chance. Where are you hearing that?

[Sergey]

Derek Mcinnes apparently has just been confirmed as manager. The man's insane if true.

EZ

Fill your pockets - he can be backed at 7/1 with Will Hills.

It looks like Warburton is a shoo-in for the gig.

[Iggy Pope]

Derek Mcinnes apparently has just been confirmed as manager. The man's insane if true.

EZ

Have you read the whole Facebook thread thing? Dinnae be daft.

[hibees 7062]

Derek Mcinnes apparently has just been confirmed as manager. The man's insane if true.

EZ

The Rangers will win playoffs -Advocaat resigns

The Rangers don't win playoffs - Advocaat re signs

Hmmm only for a year though . What price is he ?

[HoboHarry]

The Rangers will win playoffs -Advocaat resigns

The Rangers don't win playoffs - Advocaat re signs

Hmmm only for a year though . What price is he ?

Advocaat with no budget? Not going to happen.

[hibees 7062]

Advocaat with no budget? Not going to happen.

They'll have money if they go up

[HoboHarry]

They'll have money if they go up

I agree. - that's what meant with my first comment

[ian cruise]

Derek Mcinnes apparently has just been confirmed as manager. The man's insane if true.

EZ

That the post on Gramo's Facebook? I almost fell for it too.

[Leithenhibby]

Live press conference from King

http://news.stv.tv/west-central/1322507-rangers-chairman-dave-king-sets-out-vision-for-the-clubs-future/

[Keith_M]

So, The Rangers budget is based on ST Sales and a loan from Sports Direct.

Where's the big investment?



"However, he said the club's budget would be dependent on season ticket uptake and the Sports Direct loan."

Herald (http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/king-mccall-is-still-in-the-running-to-be-rangers-manager.1433769197)

[Geo_1875]

Live press conference from King

http://news.stv.tv/west-central/1322507-rangers-chairman-dave-king-sets-out-vision-for-the-clubs-future/

That looks more like an interview under caution.

[Keith_M]

That looks more like an interview under caution.


King: "My Solicitor, Mr Murray, will be answering questions on my behalf"

Murray: "No comment"

[Bostonhibby]

So, The Rangers budget is based on ST Sales and a loan from Sports Direct.

Where's the big investment?



"However, he said the club's budget would be dependent on season ticket uptake and the Sports Direct loan."

Herald (http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/king-mccall-is-still-in-the-running-to-be-rangers-manager.1433769197)
So no money from the "multi millionaire" then. Nae wonder they dislike Ashley, he actually puts his money where his mouth is. Long may king reign over this basket case of a club!

[Ozyhibby]

Nothing for us to fear from that press conference. Can't see them shifting many season tickets on that performance.

[Haymaker]

Eh? So they arent paying Ashley back and want him out but the budget is based on him loaning them money?

[Big_Franck]

Eh? So they arent paying Ashley back and want him out but the budget is based on him loaning them money?

That was exactly what I was thinking when I read the brief STV report on today's press conference. Hopefully that is King's plan :aok:

[Haymaker]

That was exactly what I was thinking when I read the brief STV report on today's press conference. Hopefully that is King's plan :aok:

I am confused! :greengrin

[Keith_M]

I am confused! :greengrin



Don't worry, so are The Rangers

[Haymaker]

Don't worry, so are The Rangers

:greengrin

[Steve20]

"We need players to be competitive in the Premiership, so there will be substantial investment in next months. It may be necessary to over-invest."


Looks like they're going to spend big this summer.