Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

[CropleyWasGod]

King was on at the tail end of Sportsound tonight, he'd just landed from London. Said he'd initially thought Rangers would need around £20m. Said the figure now would be upwards of that, he's putting in 1/2, and the other investors the rest. If I caught it correctly, he said they want to be playing in the Europa League in 2 years
I would reckon they need most of that immediately. For a start, they need 10m to get rid of Ashley.

[AlbertK86]

I would reckon they need most of that immediately. For a start, they need 10m to get rid of Ashley.

And that's just for the loans

Does he not still have loads of the commercial rights as well

[CropleyWasGod]

And that's just for the loans

Does he not still have loads of the commercial rights as well
He does, but that's not hugely important in the short term. TRFC will try to get out of those deals in time, but it will take a lot of cash.

[Moulin Yarns]

I would reckon they need most of that immediately. For a start, they need 10m to get rid of Ashley.

And....

the second £5million drawdown is apparently required by the end of the month, at which point I will speculate the end of the financial year may mean HMRC or VAT payments :greengrin

[Cropley10]

I would reckon they need most of that immediately. For a start, they need 10m to get rid of Ashley.

Oh and they spend more than £8m a year than they bring in.

Loads of players out of contract.

No scouting network

No line of credit from a Bank

Repairs needed to Ibrox

No money to be made in Europa League either.

Brilliant!!

[CropleyWasGod]

And....

the second £5million drawdown is apparently required by the end of the month, at which point I will speculate the end of the financial year may mean HMRC or VAT payments :greengrin
The Twittering classes are saying that HMRC are due cash at the end of March, presumably for VAT.

And....

the second £5million drawdown is apparently required by the end of the month, at which point I will speculate the end of the financial year may mean HMRC or VAT payments :greengrin

[Cropley10]

He does, but that's not hugely important in the short term. TRFC will try to get out of those deals in time, but it will take a lot of cash.

Very few income streams available to DK & lots of cash - hard cash - required to get rid of Ashley. Money they don't have IMHO.

[AlbertK86]

He does, but that's not hugely important in the short term. TRFC will try to get out of those deals in time, but it will take a lot of cash.

Yep agree re the short term but the merchandise can be a huge money earner if they get all the bigots around the world back on board !!!

[Eyrie]

I know zilch about company law but here's my tuppence worth for what it's worth. Isn't the legislation relating to Directors continuing using the name of a liquidated company to do with so called "Phoenix companies" where a business gets wound up and immediately reappears with the same name and the same directors? I hardly think that this applies to what has happened with Rangers. Also, if it is a problem surely they could just agree to change the name of the holding company. I reckon that the problems for King are elsewhere and that this name problem may be red (white and blue) herring.
The liquidated club was called Rangers (ie Huns RIP), and the new club is officially called The Rangers (aka Sevco Huns). It operates the same business of football, using many of the employees of the old company and the same premises.

Looks like a phoenix company to me :dunno:

[The Pointer]

As the MSM faun over TRFC with increased vigour and DK arrives at Glasgow Airport, the feeding frenzy begins to establish them 'where they belong.' DK's Messianic tone suggests he is very confident of coming out of the meeting smelling of roses - which is exactly the impression he wants to give to the baying Bluenose hordes and the reporters waiting to provide their editors with succulent headlines.

If he is talking about "north of £20m" he must indeed have other individuals who have confirmed they want to contribute substantial funds. After all that has gone before, you wonder how there can still be anyone out there daft enough to put large sums of money into this financial whirlpool.

However, Ashley has been sitting pretty patient and silent during all this and having heard Llambas's own comments this evening I think he will come up with a surprise. He's not out of it yet as he still holds several important cards.

I've been following this thread for donkeys, frequently several times a day as it is such a laugh. My wish is for them just to fall off the edge of the planet never to reappear, but unfortunately that is unlikely to be the outcome. I'm not sure how DK proposes to be involved as he is quite obviously not a FaPP, but ultimately I think he and Ashley will agree some form of co-existence, as the latter is not going to let go of his sweetie bag any time soon. He knows the aforementioned scabrous hordes will spend, spend, spend when New Newco achieve some form of stability and splash out on a new manager.

[Weststandwanab]

I would reckon they need most of that immediately. For a start, they need 10m to get rid of Ashley.

An the rest - apparently there are early repayment penalties - excuse the football pun


The Twittering classes are saying that HMRC are due cash at the end of March, presumably for VAT.

Well it certainly will not be Corporation Tax.


The liquidated club was called Rangers (ie Huns RIP), and the new club is officially called The Rangers (aka Sevco Huns). It operates the same business of football, using many of the employees of the old company and the same premises.

Looks like a phoenix company to me :dunno:

It certainly does.

[Bostonhibby]

The liquidated club was called Rangers (ie Huns RIP), and the new club is officially called The Rangers (aka Sevco Huns). It operates the same business of football, using many of the employees of the old company and the same premises.

Looks like a phoenix company to me :dunno:
It looks like the now defunct Glasgow rangers, it definitely smells like the now defunct Glasgow rangers and there's no doubt it sounds like the now defunct Glasgow rangers even if there are thousands missing every week.

[Iain G]

I see that in amongst his waffle and spin at glasgow airport he states his ambition is to make TheRangers a "solid number two"...

[Ronniekirk]

I see that in amongst his waffle and spin at glasgow airport he states his ambition is to make TheRangers a "solid number two"...
Talking ***** :agree:

[ian cruise]

It looks like the now defunct Glasgow rangers, it definitely smells like the now defunct Glasgow rangers and there's no doubt it sounds like the now defunct Glasgow rangers even if there are thousands missing every week.

That's the thing, they've gone to great lengths to make sure everyone knows they're the same club, and been allowed to get away with that. It would be ludicrous if they used the argument now they were different

[Ronniekirk]

It looks like the now defunct Glasgow rangers, it definitely smells like the now defunct Glasgow rangers and there's no doubt it sounds like the now defunct Glasgow rangers even if there are thousands missing every week.

Let's see how quickly
the missing thousands flock back starting with first home game after King is coronated today That will be barometer if the bigoted Hoardes will just automatically return to sing thier Triumphal songs in anticipation of thier expected return to the big time .you can hear it now No one likes us we don't care , the cry was no surrender etc Or will it also take Managerial change to persuade the more discerning blue nose to return to the fold .

[Ronniekirk]

That's the thing, they've gone to great lengths to make sure everyone knows they're the same club, and been allowed to get away with that. It would be ludicrous if they used the argument now they were different
But we all know they will stoop to any lengths now ,and still try and claim the Moral High Ground that despite everyone else being against them they have prevailed in Thete quest to come right back through the divisions at first time of adking to restore the Natural Order as they see it All the Financial carnage and deals and side deals and the fact they have dragged the reputation of scottish football through the sewer will get quickly forgot and be sanitised and rewritten No doubt there are a few best sellers waiting in the wings to be published that the Hoardes will lap up

[lord bunberry]

The liquidated club was called Rangers (ie Huns RIP), and the new club is officially called The Rangers (aka Sevco Huns). It operates the same business of football, using many of the employees of the old company and the same premises.

Looks like a phoenix company to me :dunno:
But neither King or Murray were responsible for setting up the Phoenix company. I don't know if that's relevant or not.

[Alex Trager]

If it only takes £40M for them to get to strength, considering the mess they are in, how much would it cost for us?

Obviously I am winning the £75M tonight so I am thinking I could possibly part with £20M to see the club prosper on the field.


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[greenginger]

But neither King or Murray were responsible for setting up the Phoenix company. I don't know if that's relevant or not.


I would'nt have thought that would make any difference. It would be easy to get a couple of stooges to set up a Phoenix company , then the real operators to move in unhindered.

[Ronniekirk]

King indicating he will appoint more directors quickly so we may know soon who else is putting money in

[offshorehibby]

Without the NOMAD, TRFC Can't trade their shares on the Stock Market.

The problem people have is that DK won't say who his NOMAD is to be, which suggests that he hasn't found anyone who will work with him.

According to Twitter tonight, he has someone who might do it, but who "needs to see the books first".

As they should.

Have i missed something, who or what is the NOMAD or is this just a term we have called the imaginary investor. Maybe it's a whoosh moment.

[s.a.m]

Have i missed something, who or what is the NOMAD or is this just a term we have called the imaginary investor. Maybe it's a whoosh moment.

NOMinated ADviser. I think. And you need one to trade on the stock exchange. I think. That's the extent of my knowledge.:greengrin

[greenginger]

After today's vote, King gets two of his people on the board ( not himself yet ) and Ashley gets to appoint 2 directors because of the loan conditions ( presume the same pair that were voted off ) .

That leaves the Holding company ,Rangers International split 2 aside. Is there a casting vote ? Can King force through any changes ?

Also the Football club board , is not immediately affected by today's vote and the other Easedale , Alexander is still a director there so Ashley may have 3 men in place there and without a majority on the Holding Company can't place anyone on the football club board,
I think. :confused:

[Andy74]

I hope the Hibs players have taken note of King's comments that Rangers being the number 2 club in Scotland will happen 'very quickly'.

We can make that process a bit slower.

[Iain G]

I hope the Hibs players have taken note of King's comments that Rangers being the number 2 club in Scotland will happen 'very quickly'.

We can make that process a bit slower.

He looks like an even more glaikit looking Kenny Dalglish to me...but Kenny makes more sense!

[Alex Trager]

After today's vote, King gets two of his people on the board ( not himself yet ) and Ashley gets to appoint 2 directors because of the loan conditions ( presume the same pair that were voted off ) .

That leaves the Holding company ,Rangers International split 2 aside. Is there a casting vote ? Can King force through any changes ?

Also the Football club board , is not immediately affected by today's vote and the other Easedale , Alexander is still a director there so Ashley may have 3 men in place there and without a majority on the Holding Company can't place anyone on the football club board,
I think. :confused:

Is this not what the Rangers' fans were expecting/wanting?


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[CB_NO3]

So a tax dodger is going to save the club that died for not paying its tax. The weedgie knuckleheads are actually buying it. They are going to crash again. They made a 7 million pound loss last year and have added around another 5-10 million pound loans since then. They have 80% of their merchandising rights owned by MA, yet they will be in Europe in two years.

Even Celtic who have sold Hooper for 7 million, Foster for 10 million, Wanyama for 12 million and qualified for 2 champions leagues in the last 4 years are signing players at 7 to 8 grand a week.

The Huns are really in cuckoo land.

[DarrenSQH]

From the BBC updates page


11:04: Ally McCoist arrives Richard Wilson BBC Scotland

Ally McCoist has just arrived #rangersegm to widespread applause.

In the away end again. Ally must not have time to get the gazebo up today

[Matty_Jack04]

IF Dave king repays Ashley's loan of 10mill does MA still hold 80% of merchandising or is that just terms on the duration of that loan deal?

[Bostonhibby]

From the BBC updates page



In the away end again. Ally must not have time to get the gazebo up today

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Bonkers when you consider how he deliberately left his resignation to the moment he did so he could squeeze maximum cash out of them for doing nothing before doing walking away.

Oh, and he is largely responsible for the team they currently have. We should be thankful for that

[CropleyWasGod]

IF Dave king repays Ashley's loan of 10mill does MA still hold 80% of merchandising or is that just terms on the duration of that loan deal?

The merchandising deal is separate to the loan deal.

[DarrenSQH]

Thats the meeting over in 10 mins. They will publish the rsults later. I would be shocked if its anything other than going along with King.

[Matty_Jack04]

The merchandising deal is separate to the loan deal.

Thanks CWG

[Iain G]

Thats the meeting over in 10 mins. They will publish the rsults later. I would be shocked if its anything other than going along with King.

Fingers crossed! Fireworks about to begin as Ashley starts flexing his muscles?

[Ryan69]

Nice too see Sally taking his gardening duties seriously....I'd of thought however there may of been a better time to cut the grass.

[lord bunberry]

I would'nt have thought that would make any difference. It would be easy to get a couple of stooges to set up a Phoenix company , then the real operators to move in unhindered.
Are the rules that black and white?the scenario you suggest clearly isn't what happened in this instance.

[CropleyWasGod]

Are the rules that black and white?the scenario you suggest clearly isn't what happened in this instance.

In my understanding of the phrase, what happened in Rangers' case is not a Phoenix situation. That would have been the case had Craig Whyte set up a new company to buy the assets of the old company.

[CropleyWasGod]

The Record reporting 85% in favour of the resolutions.

[grunt]

The Record reporting 85% in favour of the resolutions.
Apparently the Easdales abstained - their 20% was expected to go against DK.
If this number is correct, then DK was right in saying that it was a landslide victory.

[lord bunberry]

In my understanding of the phrase, what happened in Rangers' case is not a Phoenix situation. That would have been the case had Craig Whyte set up a new company to buy the assets of the old company.
That was my take on it as well. I presume these laws were brought in to prevent companies fraudulently shedding debt and continuing on their merry way under the same owners. Both Murray and King wouldn't fall into this category

[greenginger]

That was my take on it as well. I presume these laws were brought in to prevent companies fraudulently shedding debt and continuing on their merry way under the same owners. Both Murray and King wouldn't fall into this category


Yeah, but how do you prove a stooge is not a stooge, or is a stooge as the case may be.

I think the laws were drafted to suit normal business environments not the world of football

[CropleyWasGod]

Apparently the Easdales abstained - their 20% was expected to go against DK.
If this number is correct, then DK was right in saying that it was a landslide victory.
Dont see how the numbers work then.

If 85% are in favour. ...and 20% abstained. ...

Hunonomics.

[greenginger]

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail/12273128.html



Official Sevco voting results.

Big Mike tanked.

[Andy74]

Dont see how the numbers work then.

If 85% are in favour. ...and 20% abstained. ...

Hunonomics.

Could have been 85% of those who voted.

[AndyM_1875]

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail/12273128.html



Official Sevco voting results.

Big Mike tanked.

That's fairly emphatic!

[SteveHFC]

Are they in administration yet?

[CropleyWasGod]

Could have been 85% of those who voted.
Yeah, that's what it was.

[MrSmith]

Bad move! I don't think the know what they have done. I guess there is still time if DK fails the fit and proper test?? But right now, NewCo fans have opened the hell gates ...

[Hermit Crab]

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail/12273128.html



Official Sevco voting results.

Big Mike tanked.


Does that mean big Mike can/will recall the loan players and ask for his loans back immediately??

[marti1875]

Does that mean big Mike can/will recall the loan players and ask for his loans back immediately??

That's the big question as no-one knows what he will do next as he seems one to keep very quiet and then just make a move.

If his 2 men on the board get booted when the conditions of the loans he gave the club were that he has to have 2 of his men on the board for the duration of the loans then that's where it could get nasty....or good and entertaining for the likes of us......so best just to sit back and enjoy the show and see what happens next! :greengrin

I think MA knew fine the vote was lost anyway so it won't have come as any surprise so he's probably well prepared for all scenarios taking place in the very near future.

[greenginger]

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail/12273215.html

Its a three man board now. Murray and Gilligan have added Park to the party.

[jacomo]

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail/12273215.html

Its a three man board now. Murray and Gilligan have added Park to the party.

With the King on speaker phone, no doubt.

Well done Der Hun, you've launched the two guys trusted by your billionaire investor, large creditor and controller of the merchandising operation. What could possibly go wrong?

[Hermit Crab]

With the King on speaker phone, no doubt.

Well done Der Hun, you've launched the two guys trusted by your billionaire investor, large creditor and controller of the merchandising operation. What could possibly go wrong?

They will come out smelling of roses like hearts did. You watch. Just a hunch. Corruption, sfa ***** bags etc

[CB_NO3]

They will come out smelling of roses like hearts did. You watch. Just a hunch. Corruption, sfa ***** bags etc
Not so sure. Hearts were playing with a new small naive country who panicked when the British MPs got involved. Ashley is no mug and has an ego on him the size of his gut.

[Hermit Crab]

Not so sure. Hearts were playing with a new small naive country who panicked when the British MPs got involved. Ashley is no mug and has an ego on him the size of his gut.

Popcorns in the micro getting ready for this.

[andrew70]

They will come out smelling of roses like hearts did. You watch. Just a hunch. Corruption, sfa ***** bags etc

Hearts have done well this season. They will, though, struggle next year - on the pitch at least.

Off the pitch I don't buy into the idea that everything is 'rosy' and I certainly don't believe they will be fan owned in five years time.

Once a club suffers administration/liquidation it is very hard to move on properly from that. It will catch up with Hearts like it has done with Rangers, Dunfermline, Airdrie, Leeds, Portsmouth etc.

[greenginger]

With the King on speaker phone, no doubt.

Well done Der Hun, you've launched the two guys trusted by your billionaire investor, large creditor and controller of the merchandising operation. What could possibly go wrong?

How long did it take to get Park in the door ?

Could that be evidence for King and Park being part of a " concert party " resulting in them having to make an offer for all Rangers shares at the highest closing price in the last 12 months.

I dare say Ashley would love to get his share money back with interest and all the juicy deals in tact.

[PeeKay]

Am I reading the result of the votes correctly? Were only 66% of eligible votes actually cast (column headed "% of ISC voted")?

[Glorious St Pat]

How will King get past the 'fit and proper' test when the SFA rule (10.2) States that any individual May not be fit if:
Convicted in the last 10 years.
An offence liable to imprisonment (2yrs) or more.
Corruption of fraud.

King's SA fines in 2013 were over £700,000 or to accept a 4 year jail sentence. He is also to pay back £44m in back taxes.

[BH Hibs]

I take it Paul Murray has been allowed to become a director and is not barred as had been previously suggested for his part in the demise of original Hun fc

[CropleyWasGod]

I take it Paul Murray has been allowed to become a director and is not barred as had been previously suggested for his part in the demise of original Hun fc

He wasn't "barred".

However, now that he has been elected to the Board, he may have committed an offence.

[CropleyWasGod]

How will King get past the 'fit and proper' test when the SFA rule (10.2) States that any individual May not be fit if:
Convicted in the last 10 years.
An offence liable to imprisonment (2yrs) or more.
Corruption of fraud.

King's SA fines in 2013 were over £700,000 or to accept a 4 year jail sentence. He is also to pay back £44m in back taxes.

The important word.

[StevieC]

King's SA fines in 2013 were over £700,000 or to accept a 4 year jail sentence. He is also to pay back £44m in back taxes.

For £500,00 I'll do his 4 year stretch for him.

[CockneyRebel]

How will King get past the 'fit and proper' test when the SFA rule (10.2) States that any individual May not be fit if:
Convicted in the last 10 years.
An offence liable to imprisonment (2yrs) or more.
Corruption of fraud.

King's SA fines in 2013 were over £700,000 or to accept a 4 year jail sentence. He is also to pay back £44m in back taxes.




He was also involved with Rangers when they folded and cannot rejoin the same or similar company. He will know this so he must have got a dodgy handshake already as I don't think he's an idiot.

[Jim44]

How will King get past the 'fit and proper' test when the SFA rule (10.2) States that any individual May not be fit if:
Convicted in the last 10 years.
An offence liable to imprisonment (2yrs) or more.
Corruption of fraud.

King's SA fines in 2013 were over £700,000 or to accept a 4 year jail sentence. He is also to pay back £44m in back taxes.


I think I read that he unbelievably told the SA court at some point that his annual earnings were only £34k a year.

[Mikey]

Jim White is certainly enjoying reporting on it :rolleyes:

[BH Hibs]

He wasn't "barred".

However, now that he has been elected to the Board, he may have committed an offence.

Cheers for that

[Pat 0-7]

Quote from King on Reporting Scotand:

"we want (the) Rangers to go back to the value system and the ethos that we grew up with"

so expect the ban on signing Catholics to be reinstated any day now........:rolleyes:

[Pat 0-7]

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/48452/913016-tombstone_large.jpg Paul Murray

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70479000/jpg/_70479172_paul_murray_sns.jpg Tombstone

[H18S NX]

Something stinks...........http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/MALARKEY.gif (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=5863)

[emerald green]

Quote from King on Reporting Scotand:

"we want (the) Rangers to go back to the value system and the ethos that we grew up with"

so expect the ban on signing Catholics to be reinstated any day now........:rolleyes:

:top marksWhat is he slavering about? "Value system and the ethos that we grew up with." What would that be exactly?

[Bishop Hibee]

How will King get past the 'fit and proper' test when the SFA rule (10.2) States that any individual May not be fit if:
Convicted in the last 10 years.
An offence liable to imprisonment (2yrs) or more.
Corruption of fraud.

King's SA fines in 2013 were over £700,000 or to accept a 4 year jail sentence. He is also to pay back £44m in back taxes.

The Lying King should be nowhere near Scottish football. Will the SFA have the bottle to stop him. I doubt it. Petrie!!!

[Hibs Class]

:top marksWhat is he slavering about? "Value system and the ethos that we grew up with." What would that be exactly?

It's the typical deluded hun nonsense - tell a lie loudly enough and often enough and they will end up actually believing it, & looking surprised when others don't.

[Onceinawhile]

:top marksWhat is he slavering about? "Value system and the ethos that we grew up with." What would that be exactly?

No more caffliks at ibrox then.

[Onion]

:top marksWhat is he slavering about? "Value system and the ethos that we grew up with." What would that be exactly?

Exactly, the obvious follow-up question for the journos, but they were too embarrassed to ask :greengrin

[bighairyfaeleith]

:top marksWhat is he slavering about? "Value system and the ethos that we grew up with." What would that be exactly?

that could be

bribing referees
using dodgy tax schemes
sending bullets through the post to opposing teams managers
beating up your wife when you get beat
chucking pies at fans in the stand below
singing songs about famine / fenian blood etc
using masonic links to exert pressure on governing body

lovely wee club they used to be!

[blackpoolhibs]

Quote from King on Reporting Scotand:

"we want (the) Rangers to go back to the value system and the ethos that we grew up with"

so expect the ban on signing Catholics to be reinstated any day now........:rolleyes:


That was the old Rangers, this lots history is only 3 years old.

[Spike Mandela]

"Roll up roll up, who's next......ah nice to see you again Mr King and Mr Murray."

Just sit back and watch the comedy unfold at Fawlty Towers inc.

[Velma Dinkley]

So how do The Rangers go forward with a criminal in charge?

[Deansy]

Thread on their 'mong-media' - 'Any regrets about Ashley'. All posts (so far) talk of MA in the past-tense as if King winning today means Ashley loses !!??

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=280712

'I'm glad King won but part of me does wonder what Ashley's plans were but unfortunately he was just too stupid to learn the lesson of Newcastle that you need to engage with supporters if you want to be accepted at a football club'

What his plans 'WERE' ??. And (unbelievably) 'too stupid to learn'??.

Definitely some medical-laboratories with empty-jars today as the specimens have slipped out to celebrate the 'return of the King' I think !;

[Bostonhibby]

I think I read that he unbelievably told the SA court at some point that his annual earnings were only £34k a year.

To be fair, if the personal cash he has put into the rangers to help them out with their problems, and to avoid taking substantial loans from Ashley is anything to go by maybe he really doesn't earn any more than £34k a year.

Even now he is making it pretty clear there are "investors" - doesn't sound like his cash is up front and at risk. More of the same from the club that keep on giving :greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

So how do The Rangers go forward with a criminal in charge?

Swap King for Green and Whyte on the submission to the SFA?

[Bostonhibby]

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/48452/913016-tombstone_large.jpg Paul Murray

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70479000/jpg/_70479172_paul_murray_sns.jpg Tombstone

:greengrin - If the fat and protestant person test fails, could Barry be a double?

At least until Daves millions flow through, the Nomad is appointed, they are listed on the stockmarket again, Dave meets the UK company law standard, Ashley releases his charge etc............

[Springbank]

I think I've solved the mystery

Dave King's wealth exists, it's only "off the radar wealth"

A bit like Motherwell-born billionaire Craig Whyte's wealth was off the radar...

[gorgie greens]

Ya sand dancer! :wink:

more like camel jockey:greengrin

[Iain G]

And the media assault begins. Felt dirty after reading this tripe, the good for Scottish football spin...

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/31775467

[bighairyfaeleith]

And the media assault begins. Felt dirty after reading this tripe, the good for Scottish football spin...

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/31775467

That is some disgusting ****

[truehibernian]

I'd be laughing apples all week if Cowdenbeath pulled off the shock of all shocks and beat them today - I liked the national Beeb news though, they were almost mocking when they concentrated more on his tax offences rather than the taking over !

They'll always be a disgusting club no matter who is at the helm.

[sh00byd00]

Jim White is certainly enjoying reporting on it :rolleyes:

That bawbag has brown nosed every owner in the last 3 or 4 years. He was fawning over Green and Whyte, so it's no surprise he's moved onto King.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Is this latest move meant to rejuvenate their season? not with that pile of crap they have as players, typical spin to push them up to the SPL and the media will be sucking it up just like they did with the cheating yams, here we go.

[Bostonhibby]

I think I've solved the mystery

Dave King's wealth exists, it's only "off the radar wealth"

A bit like Motherwell-born billionaire Craig Whyte's wealth was off the radar...
It's immeasurable, it's so immeasurable that no one has ever bothered to measure it. Except the south African tax man obviously.

They do like their off the radar wealth guys who have serious convictions down ibrox way.

[Phil D. Rolls]

And the media assault begins. Felt dirty after reading this tripe, the good for Scottish football spin...

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/31775467

The Sons of the Desert know their onions:


"I've had the fortunate experience of meeting him and talking to him personally and I've looked him straight in the face and I'm happy with what he's saying.

Yes, but how good is he at driving a submarine?

[Keith_M]

Is it true that Keith Jackson from the DR (the "wealth off the radar" guy) had to be taken to A&E after hearing King won the (E)GM, as he did serious injury to his own nether regions?

Not that he's a King Fanboy or anything...........

[Iain G]

The Sons of the Desert know their onions:



Yes, but how good is he at driving a submarine?

Shouldn't be overly taxing.

[Ronniekirk]

Is this latest move meant to rejuvenate their season? not with that pile of crap they have as players, typical spin to push them up to the SPL and the media will be sucking it up just like they did with the cheating yams, here we go.
Kings just setting up thier off shore tax free accounts ,that will put a spring in thier step Boyd will suddenly shoot to the top of the scoring charts :wink: But they haven't factored in we are a team on a roll , who have shown in the past few weeks we can now grind out results when not at the top of our game. Let's wait and see who the new manager is ,Stubbs will relish the challenge , as up to now it's been to easy to beat them :agree:

[Keith_M]

All this talk of Mega-Bucks investment will have Super Swally banging at the front door of Ibrox, demanding his job back

[Bostonhibby]

All this talk of Mega-Bucks investment will have Super Swally banging at the front door of Ibrox, demanding his job back

I'd imagine he will at least be after some extra packets of grass seed and his own fork, I can see King running to that after he has got the other investors to put up their money. I don't think they have to be legally listed on the stock exchange or have a nomad to do that -watch for exciting developments on the turf front down Ibrox way.

The Daily ****** are down their photographing the grass now for a before and after King special, Keith Jackson is exclusively interviewing a divot but it is managing to evade his insightful questioning line.

[Phil D. Rolls]

I'd imagine he will at least be after some extra packets of grass seed and his own fork, I can see King running to that after he has got the other investors to put up their money. I don't think they have to be legally listed on the stock exchange or have a nomad to do that -watch for exciting developments on the turf front down Ibrox way.

The Daily ****** are down their photographing the grass now for a before and after King special, Keith Jackson is exclusively interviewing a divot but it is managing to evade his insightful questioning line.

There was a picture of a roll of turf, wearing a kilt, he said that talking to Nacho/Amuroso/Laudrup had been all it took to sell the club to him. He can't wait to take part in the world's greatest fixture, the record jokes he'll know all about it after 90 minutes of passionate football.

The editorial says this can only be good for Scotland, as our home grown turf isn't up to the mark.

[Bostonhibby]

There was a picture of a roll of turf, wearing a kilt, he said that talking to Nacho/Amuroso/Laudrup had been all it took to sell the club to him. He can't wait to take part in the world's greatest fixture, the record jokes he'll know all about it after 90 minutes of passionate football.

The editorial says this can only be good for Scotland, as our home grown turf isn't up to the mark.
Prodistunt or kaflik turf? Probably best to resolve this now as all the bile is bound to resurface now they feel they have the rangers men in control.

[Deansy]

And the media assault begins. Felt dirty after reading this tripe, the good for Scottish football spin...

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/31775467

'Rangers have won two consecutive promotions after financial problems led to them playing in Scotland's bottom tier' - since when did 'Cheating' or 'Tax-dodging' become a 'financial problem' ??

[Iain G]

'Rangers have won two consecutive promotions after financial problems led to them playing in Scotland's bottom tier' - since when did 'Cheating' or 'Tax-dodging' become a 'financial problem' ??

I notice there is no byline or author taking responsibility for this latest pile of fabricated lies and spin

[Onion]

'Rangers have won two consecutive promotions after financial problems led to them playing in Scotland's bottom tier' - since when did 'Cheating' or 'Tax-dodging' become a 'financial problem' ??

This is just the media starting to re-write history, and soothing the pain of The Rangers fans.

In 10yrs time, "the Gers" will have been the unfortunate victims of some devious misappropriation of funds, and petty, smaller clubs jealousy. Once back in their rightful place, the Hibs, Dons and DUFC of this world will feel the full wrath of their vengeance :greengrin

[chinaman]

This is just the media starting to re-writing history, and soothing the pain of The Rangers fans.

In 10yrs time, "the Gers" will have been the unfortunate victims of some devious misappropriation of funds, and petty, smaller clubs jealousy. Once back in their rightful place, the Hibs, Hearts, Dons and DUFC of this world will feel the full wrath of their vengeance :greengrin

Good post up till you.included the filth along with us, dons and arabs that shower are as guilty of years of cheating as the vile hun.

[Deansy]

Good post up till you.included the filth along with us, dons and arabs that shower are as guilty of years of cheating as the vile hun.

'are as guilty of years of cheating' - They actually surpass their 'Big Bros' in the cheating-stakes. Murray took over the Hun in 1988 but Mercer, who took over Hearts (as 'Charity Thieves FC' were then known as) started off their 'Finance Football' business-model in 1981.

[andrew70]

http://www.scotzine.com/2015/03/rangers-must-turn-to-their-youngsters/

my take on it all

[emerald green]

And the media assault begins. Felt dirty after reading this tripe, the good for Scottish football spin...

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/31775467

Reading this article just gave me the boak. It's just so wrong in so many ways, but the bit that really made me laugh was the following quote from Alistair Johnston:

"It is an institution and a community club. It is going to be a team of the people , by the people for the people."

Aye Alistair "we are the peepul" right enough. Just as long as you aren't catholic, or even a protestant married to a catholic, I suppose. They probably didn't count (still don't?) as part of the "community" for the best part of a hundred years at Rangers FC.

[cabbageandribs1875]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/new-rangers-chief-dave-king-5288569


DAVE KING has vowed to expose the brutal financial truth behind the running of Rangers and chase down anyone who illegally profited from greed.


Executive chairman Murray and director Gilligan have been joined on the board by Douglas Park after King decided to decline a director’s position for now.
He will be subject to scrutiny by a nomad he expects to appoint next week after he pled guilty to 41 criminal counts involving tax offences in South Africa last year.


you honestly just couldn't make this sh@te up, seriously


http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-interim-chairman-paul-murray-5287851

When the formalities were all over, new interim chairman Murray said: “I would personally like to take the opportunity to thank the Daily Record for its courageous journalism over the past four years – and officially confirm it is no longer banned from Rangers FC.”


aw man :faf:

[chinaman]

'are as guilty of years of cheating' - They actually surpass their 'Big Bros' in the cheating-stakes. Murray took over the Hun in 1988 but Mercer, who took over Hearts (as 'Charity Thieves FC' were then known as) started off their 'Finance Football' business-model in 1981.correct. Lets NEVER let em forget it.

[Phil D. Rolls]

correct. Lets NEVER let em forget it.

Yams are grateful for any attention they can get. Best just to move on.

[Ronniekirk]

Reading this article just gave me the boak. It's just so wrong in so many ways, but the bit that really made me laugh was the following quote from Alistair Johnston:

"It is an institution and a community club. It is going to be a team of the people , by the people for the people."

Aye Alistair "we are the peepul" right enough. Just as long as you aren't catholic, or even a protestant married to a catholic, I suppose. They probably didn't count (still don't?) as part of the "community" for the best part of a hundred years at Rangers FC.
Paul Murray on radio today stating Rangers need to lead scottish football as it has sufferred without them and even Celtic have missed them .not his exact words but Tom English said it sounded arrogant but Paul Murray isn't an Arrogant man so he would forgive him . Dont let them kid you Tom that's exactly the mentality they will have

[Col2]

Paul Murray on radio today stating Rangers need to lead scottish football as it has sufferred without them and even Celtic have missed them .not his exact words but Tom English said it sounded arrogant but Paul Murray isn't an Arrogant man so he would forgive him . Dont let them kid you Tom that's exactly the mentality they will have

It was incredible. He said that Rangers were used to being the leaders of Scottishf football governance and direction (or similar) and then went on to say that Rangers were the biggest club in Scotland.

They think they are back to where they were under Murray mint, lording it. My hatred just goes up another notch. Luckily enough we have a manager and players that I am confident will wipe the floor with them when it comes to the crunch.

[emerald green]

Paul Murray on radio today stating Rangers need to lead scottish football as it has sufferred without them and even Celtic have missed them .not his exact words but Tom English said it sounded arrogant but Paul Murray isn't an Arrogant man so he would forgive him . Dont let them kid you Tom that's exactly the mentality they will have

I long ago came to the conclusion that the whole lot of them are both deluded and completely nuts.

The one bit he got right, from what you say in your post, was that Celtic have missed them but that is for purely selfish financial reasons.

[Bostonhibby]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/new-rangers-chief-dave-king-5288569


DAVE KING has vowed to expose the brutal financial truth behind the running of Rangers and chase down anyone who illegally profited from greed.


Executive chairman Murray and director Gilligan have been joined on the board by Douglas Park after King decided to decline a director’s position for now.
He will be subject to scrutiny by a nomad he expects to appoint next week after he pled guilty to 41 criminal counts involving tax offences in South Africa last year.


you honestly just couldn't make this sh@te up, seriously


http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-interim-chairman-paul-murray-5287851

When the formalities were all over, new interim chairman Murray said: “I would personally like to take the opportunity to thank the Daily Record for its courageous journalism over the past four years – and officially confirm it is no longer banned from Rangers FC.”


aw man :faf:


Bound to have learnt a bit about how people who illegally profit from greed can be chased down and caught from his forty odd tax cases and convictions so he could well achieve this.

[Spike Mandela]

Bound to have learnt a bit about how people who illegally profit from greed can be chased down and caught from his forty odd tax cases and convictions so he could well achieve this.

:agree: It takes a thief to catch a thief.

[Springbank]

It was incredible. He said that Rangers were used to being the leaders of Scottishf football governance and direction (or similar) and then went on to say that Rangers were the biggest club in Scotland.

They think they are back to where they were under Murray mint, lording it. My hatred just goes up another notch. Luckily enough we have a manager and players that I am confident will wipe the floor with them when it comes to the crunch.

Thankfully we are a football team, with good football players, who just get on with beating Rangers at football by 2,3,4 goals

They are an institution which has acted as a gathering place for the most disturbed element of our society & they have a terrible football team

We'll beat them on & off the park

[Bostonhibby]

:agree: I takes a thief to catch a thief.
Seriously wondering if he thinks before he speaks on subjects like this. Hopefully he will get a run at it. The last thing we wanted to see was a professionally run outfit transparently funded by Ashleys own money.

Borrowing and bits and pieces of investment from various sources looks like their future. More of the same, and the tax man cometh[emoji1]

[essexhibee]

Few of them on Rangers media seeming to think McCall will be announced as the new manager next week

[Ronniekirk]

Few of them on Rangers media seeming to think McCall will be announced as the new manager next week
Based on the last five or six games McDowall has shown he can't change things ,.so I think they will need to bring someone in short term or they wait another few weeks to get who they want going forward and hope they can sort them out for the playoffs But for every game McDowall is in charge they risk losing more ground to us

[Onion]

Few of them on Rangers media seeming to think McCall will be announced as the new manager next week

Might need something like that but it's shameful that a club with sooooo much money/resources should have to change their manager 3 times in season just to reach the play offs. Irrespective of what's happening off the park. there's no way their highly paid, cherry picked squad should struggle as badly as it has. McCoist's performance as a manager of the Huns this season has been as bad as Butcher's last season.

IMO if Stubbs manages to get us into the Prem (given our state last summer) it will exceed anything that GJP or Mowbray did in their time at Hibs.

[Boyle89]

New Rangers chairman on sportscene saying Rangers were at the front of scottish football in terms of governance and he wants them to be again.

[Bostonhibby]

New Rangers chairman on sportscene saying Rangers were at the front of scottish football in terms of governance and he wants them to be again.
Did he say when that was? Was it when he was there before?

I know the media are hanging on their every word but you would think directors and chairman have an obligation to think before they speak.

[Boyle89]

Did he say when that was? Was it when he was there before?

I know the media are hanging on their every word but you would think directors and chairman have an obligation to think before they speak.
Said along the lines of he's 50 and when he was growing up Rangers were at the forefront in terms of size and governance.
You would think but then again it is Rangers....new club, same old ***** ;)

[sh00byd00]

Paul Murray is an utter bawbag. The sense of entitlement is now back and stronger than ever down Ibrox way. I also laugh at them thinking £20m is going to suddenly turn them into the Scottish equivalent of Barca. They've lost around £70m over the last few years and would love to know what's going to be so f'n special about this £10m or £20m they're spouting, when £70m has done nothing. Gretna did better with a lot less ffs. Lets not forget, all these bawbags were at the helm when the proper Rangers died.

[Liberal Hibby]

Said along the lines of he's 50 and when he was growing up Rangers were at the forefront in terms of size and governance.
You would think but then again it is Rangers....new club, same old ***** ;)

But he also said the club needed rebuilt from top to bottom and called on fans to have patience. That says to me another season in the Championship...

[Ronniekirk]

New Rangers chairman on sportscene saying Rangers were at the front of scottish football in terms of governance and he wants them to be again.

Governance. More like Govanance They have thier own laws down that way and they are corrupt to the core . To start talking about Rangers leading the rest of Scottish Football a day in the door is arrogant and shamefull,it shows they are not even prepared to be humble or contrite they just want to talk about restoring the Blue Order to its rightfull place .The media can't get enough of it

[truehibernian]

New Rangers chairman on sportscene saying Rangers were at the front of scottish football in terms of governance and he wants them to be again.

As a vehicle for cheating, bigotry and delusions of grandeur ?

Murray looks like a boy who would wear different coloured socks with his winkle pickers :aok:

Disgusting club, Scotland don't need them - this should be the media message :agree:

[Springbank]

Scotland's national team is doing better now than it was for the last 15 years Rangers were in the top league

[Deansy]

It was incredible. He said that Rangers were used to being the leaders of Scottishf football governance and direction (or similar) and then went on to say that Rangers were the biggest club in Scotland.

They think they are back to where they were under Murray mint, lording it. My hatred just goes up another notch. Luckily enough we have a manager and players that I am confident will wipe the floor with them when it comes to the crunch.

i read that and couldn't believe he actually said it - in that instant of disbelief, I had this fleeting image of me as a journalist at this 'interview' (Love-in) and saying to him -

"LEADERS OF SCOTTISH FOOTBALL, YA FXXXXXXXG B*WBAG ?? ARE YOU TRYING TO TAKE THE PXXS ?? - IT TOOK YOU S*UM UNTIL AS RECENTLY - AYE, RECENTLY - 1989, JUST 26 FXXXXXG YEARS AGO, TO SIGN A FXXXXG CATHOLIC, YA LYING, TWO-FACED ,PIECE OF C*AP !!!!'

"AND LOOK HOW YOUR S*UM-SUPPORT REACTED WHEN THAT HAPPENED, EH ?? - SEASON-TICKETS BURNED/TORN-UP IN PUBLIC, IN FRONT OF TV-CAMERAS, VOWS OF 'NEVER RETURNING AS LONG AS HE'S THERE', FFS - 'LEADERS OF SCOTTISH FOOTBALL ,YA CLOWN ??' - IT WOULD TAKE YOU VERMIN ANOTHER 100 FXXXXXG YEARS JUST TO REACH THE 19TH-CENTURY, YA FXXXXXG AXXE-WIPE !' - YE'S WERE - AND ARE - THE FXXXXXG BACKWARD, BANJO-PLAYERS OF THE GAME, YA LYING PIECE OF S*UM THAT YE ARE !!"



And do you know something, I felt a lot better after that wee, mental rant !!!

[bingo70]

Davie weir linked with the Huns job in the sun today.

Was he not totally gash in his only job so far? Thought he was a disaster at sheff utd?

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

I think this is great news for The Rangers and Scottish football. Once they get beat in the play-offs, they'll disolve in the championship and implode...again.

[Keith_M]

Has 'The King' rode down Edmiston Dr on his white horse yet?

[Jim44]

Davie weir linked with the Huns job in the sun today.

Was he not totally gash in his only job so far? Thought he was a disaster at sheff utd?

They're creaming themselves on FF at the thought of Weir and Warburton at Ibrox.

[bingo70]

They're creaming themselves on FF at the thought of Weir and Warburton at Ibrox.

Suppose in fairness anyone is likely to be better than McDowell.

They said similar about mccoist though.

[Barney McGrew]

They're creaming themselves on FF at the thought of Weir and Warburton at Ibrox.

They'll cream themselves at the thought of any 'Rainjurs Men' in the hot seat, it will help with the siege mentality they'll try and grow between now and the end of the season.

Regardless of who picks the team, they're pish. You cannae make a chicken burger out of chicken ****.

[Col2]

MSM are beside themselves that The Rangers need a manager NOW despite King saying they will take time.

The 0-0 draw has panicked the media that they might after all not have the teddy bears back in the big league and 4 OF games next year.

Super scoreboard yesterday were speculating Uncle Walter might come back but even if not, McCall or Davies would ensure the sticky buns would go up.

Forgetting about the absolute trash, unfit and out of contract squad they have and forgetting about a certain team in green that are way ahead of them on fitness and form.

[Eyrie]

Said along the lines of he's 50 and when he was growing up Rangers were at the forefront in terms of size and governance.
You would think but then again it is Rangers....new club, same old ***** ;)

Forefront for size? Remind me how many of their loyal supporters would appear in the early 80s.

Forefront for governance? Presumably he means when Huns RIP and Septic ran Scottish football to suit themselves.

I'd prefer that he took Sevco Huns back to their original size (bottom division) and traditional governance (Green and his pals misspending the cash).

[Phil D. Rolls]

MSM are beside themselves that The Rangers need a manager NOW despite King saying they will take time.

The 0-0 draw has panicked the media that they might after all not have the teddy bears back in the big league and 4 OF games next year.

Super scoreboard yesterday were speculating Uncle Walter might come back but even if not, McCall or Davies would ensure the sticky buns would go up.

Forgetting about the absolute trash, unfit and out of contract squad they have and forgetting about a certain team in green that are way ahead of them on fitness and form.

:agree: Fitness will be the key. You just get the impression that Rangers players have got into bad habits when they were romping the lower divisions. I don't think they've got the squad to last till the end of May. Any idea what the position is with the Newcastle loanees?

[Phil D. Rolls]

Forefront for size? Remind me how many of their loyal supporters would appear in the early 80s.

Forefront for governance? Presumably he means when Huns RIP and Septic ran Scottish football to suit themselves.

I'd prefer that he took Sevco Huns back to their original size (bottom division) and traditional governance (Green and his pals misspending the cash).

Certainly at the forefront of a move to play in a different country, and leave the rest of us behind.

Still quite a good idea, tbh, because - as it stands - Scottish football is too big for them.

[Andy74]

I like their new plan.

Spend even more money than they are now and hope to make it back from Champions League money.

Can't see how that could go wrong. Surprised no one has done it before.

[Onion]

MSM are beside themselves that The Rangers need a manager NOW despite King saying they will take time.

The 0-0 draw has panicked the media that they might after all not have the teddy bears back in the big league and 4 OF games next year.

Super scoreboard yesterday were speculating Uncle Walter might come back but even if not, McCall or Davies would ensure the sticky buns would go up.

Forgetting about the absolute trash, unfit and out of contract squad they have and forgetting about a certain team in green that are way ahead of them on fitness and form.

Failing that, expect lots of unfounded press speculation about the Huns signing or looking at our best players (or even Stubbs) in effort to disrupt and unsettle. It's what the weegie press do best.

[Iain G]

I like their new plan.

Spend even more money than they are now and hope to make it back from Champions League money.

Can't see how that could go wrong. Surprised no one has done it before.
I
Looking forward to that new improved deal for Boyd, simply as he is Rangers minded ;-)

Actually he sums them up perfectly, still fat and succulent and eating from the trough and trying to be relevant, where the reality is that they are an outdated, anachronistic throwback that simpy ly does not work in the modern day and are well past their use by date.

[Bostonhibby]

I
Looking forward to that new improved deal for Boyd, simply as he is Rangers minded ;-)

Actually he sums them up perfectly, still fat and succulent and eating from the trough and trying to be relevant, where the reality is that they are an outdated, anachronistic throwback that simpy ly does not work in the modern day and are well past their use by date.

:tsk tsk: No, they are doing fine, the media love them, more of this the rangers minded progress please. Bringing back sally assisted by big tel helps build that mentally - if dodgy Dave is ever allowed to operate legally in the UK and if money actually exists this has to be their next move, a big fat long term contract.

[Deansy]

Failing that, expect lots of unfounded press speculation about the Huns signing or looking at our best players (or even Stubbs) in effort to disrupt and unsettle. It's what the weegie press do best.

I'm really surprised that hasn't happened - yet !. Surely our MSM haven't realised that not ALL Scottish Football Fans are as thick as the Hun-support and, despite 'new ownership' know that they still haven't got the proverbial 'Pot to P*ss in' and would therefore be unable to afford ANY of our players ??

[Bostonhibby]

I'm really surprised that hasn't happened - yet !. Surely our MSM haven't realised that not ALL Scottish Football Fans are as thick as the Hun-support and, despite 'new ownership' know that they still haven't got the proverbial 'Pot to P*ss in' and would therefore be unable to afford ANY of our players ??

:agree: And they cannae start p*ssing in any pots until they get themselves relisted on the stock exchange again then they can start cough cough, ahem "investing" - borrowing.

[Cropley10]

DK will delist so he doesn't have the scrutiny on finances & accounts.

[Cropley10]

Paul Murray is a moderately successful accountant. He certainly doesn't have any personal wealth to give Rangers.

However moderately successful he has been he surely must realise that Ibrox has always been, and remains, a black hole as far as money is concerned.

The problem he appears ignorant to is that they will have to rely on the generosity of people wealthier than him to try and change things at Ibrox.

DK talks about structured debt as the way forward (borrowing what they can afford). But MA has security over many assets, and the retail income stream. Of course there are the onerous contracts too.

Let the SMSM regurgitate the PR puff, Rangers aren't going to be getting better for quite some time.

I'd wager that the best they can hope for is to try & emulate Aberdeen. As for challenging Celtc? Not for a long, long time - there are too any things needing too much cash which they don't have.

[Deansy]

DK will delist so he doesn't have the scrutiny on finances & accounts.

Agreed - WHO, in Scottish Football, is gonna question them if they do get an extraordinary, mind-boggling 'investment' from somewhere ?. Our 'media', the GFA ?? - no-one will and that's what worries me. King will know all sorts of 'Dodgy characters who'll have large amounts of equally 'Dodgy-money' that needs cleaned-up.Their history shows they have scant regard for the rules that everyone else adheres to and King & Co will know this is the 'Last Drop Saloon' for the Hun's future existence so they'll stoop to any levels.

[CropleyWasGod]

Agreed - WHO, in Scottish Football, is gonna question them if they do get an extraordinary, mind-boggling 'investment' from somewhere ?. Our 'media', the GFA ?? - no-one will and that's what worries me. King will know all sorts of 'Dodgy characters who'll have large amounts of equally 'Dodgy-money' that needs cleaned-up.Their history shows they have scant regard for the rules that everyone else adheres to and King & Co will know this is the 'Last Drop Saloon' for the Hun's future existence so they'll stoop to any levels.
If anyone who does business with RFC in a professional capacity has any suspicion of money laundering, they have a legal duty to report that suspicion. Not to do so is a crime in itself.

Given the profile of TRFC, any "dodgy" investment will be scrutinised by many, particularly fans of other clubs. That in itself puts extra pressure on their professional advisers to do the "right" thing.

[Keith_M]

If anyone who does business with RFC in a professional capacity has any suspicion of money laundering, they have a legal duty to report that suspicion. Not to do so is a crime in itself.

Given the profile of TRFC, any "dodgy" investment will be scrutinised by many, particularly fans of other clubs. That in itself puts extra pressure on their professional advisers to do the "right" thing.


Nice theory.


How did that work out in Hearts' case?

[CropleyWasGod]

Nice theory.


How did that work out in Hearts' case?
We wouldn't know.

Any reports are treated in confidence. Once the report has been made, that's the end of it as far as the reporter is concerned. It's then up to the police.

[Weststandwanab]

We wouldn't know.

Any reports are treated in confidence. Once the report has been made, that's the end of it as far as the reporter is concerned. It's then up to the police.

Due to the lack of any prosecution I think it is fair to assume that complaint was filed under B

[CropleyWasGod]

Due to the lack of any prosecution I think it is fair to assume that complaint was filed under B
Was a complaint made?

[Weststandwanab]

[QUOTE=CropleyWasGod;4319931]Was a complaint made?[/QUOTE

My understanding is more than one was made but of course they are still under investigation.

[CropleyWasGod]

[QUOTE=CropleyWasGod;4319931]Was a complaint made?[/QUOTE

My understanding is more than one was made but of course they are still under investigation.
Which would support my point. Complaints were made, and investigations undertaken.

The same scenario would happen in Rangers case, and would be more likely to.

[Weststandwanab]

[QUOTE=Weststandwanab;4319960]
Which would support my point. Complaints were made, and investigations undertaken.

The same scenario would happen in Rangers case, and would be more likely to.

Indeed.

I reported a ex client under these provisions under the same legislation ten years ago along with (I.M.O.) cast iron proof from a third party.

Today they still trade using "a similar name" and are on their fourth Phoneix Company with the previous 3 having ripped of H.M.R.C. for V.A.T. and P.A.Y.E..

And you wonder why some of us think this legislation is laughable ?

Anyway bring on Falkirk again

[angus hibee]

Latest Board Moves Trio Suspended

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31817509

[Spike Mandela]

Latest Board Moves Trio Suspended

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31817509

Dave Kings's strategy will be to just stop paying things he doesn't like( aka the Rangers way) and the glib and shameless liar will say "see you in court".

So ****ing predictable.

[Bostonhibby]

Dave Kings's strategy will be to just stop paying things he doesn't like( aka the Rangers way) and the glib and shameless liar will say "see you in court".

So ****ing predictable.
Let's hope they have the same staying power and sense of morality as the south African tax man and judge!

[Iain G]

Latest Board Moves Trio Suspended

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31817509

How does this work when Ashley has a right under the conditions of his loan to have two representitives on the board??

[bingo70]

Latest Board Moves Trio Suspended

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31817509

I'm guessing that was expected and nothing significant?

[jonty]

How does this work when Ashley has a right under the conditions of his loan to have two representitives on the board??

I'm guessing they're going to try and prove his loan deal/security is null and void. Good luck with that one :greengrin

[Bostonhibby]

I'm guessing they're going to try and prove his loan deal/security is null and void. Good luck with that one :greengrin
Especially if they took and spent the money! It's a commercial contract validated by their actions.

[dangermouse]

My Rangers supporting mate is heading along to Ibrox tonight, first time in ages, for the match against QOS and says it's a sell out. Hun hoards return lets just hope QOS do the business.

As an aside, he told me his ST is in his brother's wallet and he is down south. It will cost him £5 to get a replacement ticket (£15 at Celtic Park according to his wife, a Celtic ST holder). Imagine the venting of spleens on here if something similar was in place at Easter Road.

[southsider]

Especially if they took and spent the money! It's a commercial contract validated by their actions.
The more they spend on lawyers the less they spend on players. Hope this is long and bloody. BTW how is Paul Murray acting chairman ? Thought, as on board of liquidated rangers he was bared for 5 years ?

[Ryan69]

Latest Board Moves Trio Suspended

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31817509

Have i completely missed something here...Does DK not have to pass the fit and proper test before he becomes involved?

Seems like the SFA are going to bend over backwards to help The Rangers....as the noise from them is non existant!

I'm really becoming sick of all this crap...SFA should of stamped their authorite a long time ago surely!

[Ozyhibby]

Have i completely missed something here...Does DK not have to pass the fit and proper test before he becomes involved?

Seems like the SFA are going to bend over backwards to help The Rangers....as the noise from them is non existant!

I'm really becoming sick of all this crap...SFA should of stamped their authorite a long time ago surely!

I think they plan to just ignore everything at Ibrox and hope nobody notices.

[Andy74]

You can't just suspend a Director!

[Spike Mandela]

You can't just suspend a Director!

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/mar/10/rangers-suspend-mike-ashley-allies-derek-llambias

In response to Rangers’ announcement, Easdale’s spokesman Jack Irvine issued a statement through the Press Association that read: “We are surprised at the announcement as you cannot suspend a director under the law of Scotland. We also note that they talk about an investigation. Sandy Easdale welcomes that as he has absolutely nothing to fear.”

[Keith_M]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/mar/10/rangers-suspend-mike-ashley-allies-derek-llambias

In response to Rangers’ announcement, Easdale’s spokesman Jack Irvine issued a statement through the Press Association that read: “We are surprised at the announcement as you cannot suspend a director under the law of Scotland. We also note that they talk about an investigation. Sandy Easdale welcomes that as he has absolutely nothing to fear.”



Ding Ding!


:take that

[Ryan69]

I think they plan to just ignore everything at Ibrox and hope nobody notices.

It really is beyond belief...but no surprise.

And you wonder why our game is a laughing stock!

Only in Scotland could something like this happen....

Would there be any point in contacting the SFA to ask if they are going to start implementing the rules they make? Probably not!

[Ozyhibby]

It really is beyond belief...but no surprise.

And you wonder why our game is a laughing stock!

Only in Scotland could something like this happen....

Would there be any point in contacting the SFA to ask if they are going to start implementing the rules they make? Probably not!

To be honest, I dont see the point. The SFA and the SPFL are democracies. They are made up of all the other clubs including Hibs. They are designed to take any flack from fans.
If you really want to put some pressure on about this then the fans need to take it up with their own clubs.
Have we asked Hibs why they are turning a blind eye to all this?

[CropleyWasGod]

Have i completely missed something here...Does DK not have to pass the fit and proper test before he becomes involved?

Seems like the SFA are going to bend over backwards to help The Rangers....as the noise from them is non existant!

I'm really becoming sick of all this crap...SFA should of stamped their authorite a long time ago surely!

Dave King isn't on the Board.

[CropleyWasGod]

To be honest, I dont see the point. The SFA and the SPFL are democracies. They are made up of all the other clubs including Hibs. They are designed to take any flack from fans.
If you really want to put some pressure on about this then the fans need to take it up with their own clubs.
Have we asked Hibs why they are turning a blind eye to all this?

Not sure what it is that Hibs are turning a blind eye to.

Another club has internal squabbles. As long as it doesn't unduly affect us, it's not really our place to complain to anyone.

[MrSmith]

Does all this removing and suspending mean the Newcastle lads will be sent packing too?

[southsider]

Dave King isn't on the Board.
But Murray is acting chairman. Is this allowed as he was director of liquidated rangers ?

[Keith_M]

Dave King isn't on the Board.


CWG, given the influence he appears to be exerting currently, would you consider him to be a 'shadow director'?


(I'm not saying that means he has to pass the F&P test, it's more a potential infringement of company law)

[jonty]

Dave King isn't on the Board.

Neither is MA but he still got fined for having an influence :stirrer:

[CropleyWasGod]

CWG, given the influence he appears to be exerting currently, would you consider him to be a 'shadow director'?


(I'm not saying that means he has to pass the F&P test, it's more a potential infringement of company law)

Absolutely.

[Ozyhibby]

Not sure what it is that Hibs are turning a blind eye to.

Another club has internal squabbles. As long as it doesn't unduly affect us, it's not really our place to complain to anyone.

Hibs are members of the SFA who appear to be ignoring certain rules to favour another member. This could unduly affect us if it prevents us from being promoted.
Hibs appear to be turning a blind eye to this.
My point really is that fans love to have a go at the SFA or SPFL when really these organisations are only doing what the clubs want them to do.
If you have a problem with the SFA or SPFL, you really should take it up with your club. Then you might start getting some answers.

[CropleyWasGod]

But Murray is acting chairman. Is this allowed as he was director of liquidated rangers ?

He wasn't a director when they went into administration, unlike King.

However, under the letter of ther law, he has potentially committed an offence. Whether he will be prosecuted for it will depend on 1. someone making a complaint. and 2. the PF deciding that there is a case.

Personally, I doubt that there will be a charge.

[CropleyWasGod]

Hibs are members of the SFA who appear to be ignoring certain rules to favour another member. This could unduly affect us if it prevents us from being promoted.
Hibs appear to be turning a blind eye to this.
My point really is that fans love to have a go at the SFA or SPFL when really these organisations are only doing what the clubs want them to do.
If you have a problem with the SFA or SPFL, you really should take it up with your club. Then you might start getting some answers.

What rules are they ignoring?

Paul Murray has only just been made a director. He will have to apply to the SFA for F&P approval. That takes time.

Dave King is not a director.

In either case, I don't see how their appointment would affect Hibs' promotion chances.

[CropleyWasGod]

Neither is MA but he still got fined for having an influence :stirrer:

He was fined because he had influence at another club, though.

[dangermouse]

Does all this removing and suspending mean the Newcastle lads will be sent packing too?

As Hull were unable to recall Mark Oxley due to the loan being cross border I would doubt the Newcastle 5 will be returning to St James Park/Sports Direct Arena or whatever until the end of the season.

[Ozyhibby]

What rules are they ignoring?

Paul Murray has only just been made a director. He will have to apply to the SFA for F&P approval. That takes time.

Dave King is not a director.

In either case, I don't see how their appointment would affect Hibs' promotion chances.

And if Dave King is acting as a shadow director?
Allowing them on the board may put them in a position to appoint a new manager, coaching team etc that may improve the team? Who knows?
I just think that the rule preventing people who have been on the board of a club who have went bust is clear and Murray should not have been allowed to proceed this far.

[CropleyWasGod]

And if Dave King is acting as a shadow director?
Allowing them on the board may put them in a position to appoint a new manager, coaching team etc that may improve the team? Who knows?
I just think that the rule preventing people who have been on the board of a club who have went bust is clear and Murray should not have been allowed to proceed this far.

That's not an SFA rule though. That's the law. It's up to the law to decide whether he should be prosecuted.

[Spike Mandela]

Can't believe that tube Chris Graham has got a seat on board as fans rep. Guess we won't be getting a modern, progressive, non sectarian Sevco then.

[Newry Hibs]

As Hull were unable to recall Mark Oxley due to the loan being cross border I would doubt the Newcastle 5 will be returning to St James Park/Sports Direct Arena or whatever until the end of the season.

They may all develop niggly thigh strains though. Shame for them really as it's not their fault and they probably just want to play football.

[Bostonhibby]

Can't believe that tube Chris Graham has got a seat on board as fans rep. Guess we won't be getting a modern, progressive, non sectarian Sevco then.

Continuity candidate - They voted for it to stay the same as it always was - its been the same since 1690 - more of the same arrogance and sense of entitlement will probably result in a similar tale of debt and unpaid tax. All on somebody elses money.

[Ozyhibby]

That's not an SFA rule though. That's the law. It's up to the law to decide whether he should be prosecuted.

I'm sure there is a similar SFA rule. if not then there should be and its Hibs we should be asking about it. :wink:

[Ozyhibby]

Can't believe that tube Chris Graham has got a seat on board as fans rep. Guess we won't be getting a modern, progressive, non sectarian Sevco then.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/10/ffee457e659b88eff0c2c990d5a9925c.jpg

This Chris Graham?

[Hibs07p]

As Hull were unable to recall Mark Oxley due to the loan being cross border I would doubt the Newcastle 5 will be returning to St James Park/Sports Direct Arena or whatever until the end of the season.

To be fair, I think Hull could have recalled him, but wouldn't have been able to register him to play, which would've defeated the purpose in recalling him. Newcastle could recall their 5 if they wanted to, but couldn't register them. But why would they, The Rangers might be paying some or all the wages, and 4 of them appear to be injured. :greengrin

GGTTH

[Weststandwanab]

CWG, given the influence he appears to be exerting currently, would you consider him to be a 'shadow director'?



(I'm not saying that means he has to pass the F&P test, it's more a potential infringement of company law)

Excuse the pun but without a shadow of a doubt.


He wasn't a director when they went into administration, unlike King.

However, under the letter of ther law, he has potentially committed an offence. Whether he will be prosecuted for it will depend on 1. someone making a complaint. and 2. the PF deciding that there is a case.

Personally, I doubt that there will be a charge.

Sadly I feel you will be correct.


Can't believe that tube Chris Graham has got a seat on board as fans rep. Guess we won't be getting a modern, progressive, non sectarian Sevco then.

Probably no such thing.

[Ozyhibby]

Chris Graham on his new chairman's criticism of Craig Whyte.

Chris Graham on Paul Murray's concerns over Craig Whyte's pursuit of 'buying' Rangers. Labelled his new chairman a 'jilted lover' and said his concerns were just 'sour grapes' and for him to stop his bitching.

CG: "Many fans have rounded on Paul Murray and Alastair Johnston for their frequent participation in these attacks and although I don’t doubt that the former board members may feel they are doing the right thing, I have to say it is hard to see their comments as anything other than sour grapes.

"They seem incapable of putting across their concerns without sniping at Whyte like jilted lovers. There is also, tellingly, a total lack of any alternative put forward by them. You want to sit them down and say “Ok guys we get it. You don’t like or trust Whyte but what exactly are you proposing?”

"Their repeated calls for fans to be vigilant are totally redundant as the fans have no alternative but to trust Whyte to steer us past the HMRC case and beyond. Murray et al had four years to come up with an alternative and couldn’t. It’s time for them to stop bitching and allow us to examine Whyte’s tenure on its merits and over a sensible period of time once this tax case has reached a conclusion."

[Spike Mandela]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/10/ffee457e659b88eff0c2c990d5a9925c.jpg

This Chris Graham?

The very same.

[Jack]

To be honest, I dont see the point. The SFA and the SPFL are democracies. They are made up of all the other clubs including Hibs. They are designed to take any flack from fans.
If you really want to put some pressure on about this then the fans need to take it up with their own clubs.
Have we asked Hibs why they are turning a blind eye to all this?

Maybe someone on here could ask Rod Petrie BTG tomorrow?

[truehibernian]

Can't believe that tube Chris Graham has got a seat on board as fans rep. Guess we won't be getting a modern, progressive, non sectarian Sevco then.

See, I quite like that appointment - because it means it's only a matter of time before the real sentiment is expressed, online, offline, in the media, and they can again be exposed for what they are :aok:

The Rangers as a club has an expiry date - and it is fast approaching :agree:

This is half of the OF that wanted to leave Scottish football after all......they'd 'outgrown' the rest :cb:faf:

Ashley is making me curious though, he rarely rarely lets anyone get the better of him......wish I had the acumen of CWG, GG and Caversham Green.......he has to have something up his sleeve......other than a pie as he looks like he likes a fair few :greengrin

[CropleyWasGod]

See, I quite like that appointment - because it means it's only a matter of time before the real sentiment is expressed, online, offline, in the media, and they can again be exposed for what they are :aok:

The Rangers as a club has an expiry date - and it is fast approaching :agree:

This is half of the OF that wanted to leave Scottish football after all......they'd 'outgrown' the rest :cb:faf:

Ashley is making me curious though, he rarely rarely lets anyone get the better of him......wish I had the acumen of CWG, GG and Caversham Green.......he has to have something up his sleeve......other than a pie as he looks like he likes a fair few :greengrin

Thanks for the compliment, but I haven't much of a scoobie either. I reckon we're now past any sort of business-type story, and it's all about a gladiatorial thing. When 2 guys like DK and MA, who don't actually need the cash, it becomes about ego, testosterone and power.

I agree, though, that MA will not be quiet for long.

[Billy Whizz]

I agree, though, that MA will not be quiet for long.

Particularly when his "men" inside Ibrox, have been put on suspension

[truehibernian]

Thanks for the compliment, but I haven't much of a scoobie either. I reckon we're now past any sort of business-type story, and it's all about a gladiatorial thing. When 2 guys like DK and MA, who don't actually need the cash, it becomes about ego, testosterone and power.

I agree, though, that MA will not be quiet for long.

See, what my take is CWG, and hopefully and gladly you can correct me - I think Ashley has played a blinder here.......he has slowly taken up a % share, obtained the crucial merchandising rights.....well knowing in the background that The Rangers will eventually rebel, get 'their men' in place......which in turn galvanises a support.......and the lemming type support then buy strips, pennants, mugs (:greengrin) and dvd's.........Ashley unconcerned (really) that he has 'lost the battle' but secretly knows he has 'won'......because he has engineered a fanbase united and who buy lots of The Rangers stuff..........or am I just wrong, pure and simple ? :confused:

[CropleyWasGod]

See, what my take is CWG, and hopefully and gladly you can correct me - I think Ashley has played a blinder here.......he has slowly taken up a % share, obtained the crucial merchandising rights.....well knowing in the background that The Rangers will eventually rebel, get 'their men' in place......which in turn galvanises a support.......and the lemming type support then buy strips, pennants, mugs (:greengrin) and dvd's.........Ashley unconcerned (really) that he has 'lost the battle' but secretly knows he has 'won'......because he has engineered a fanbase united and who buy lots of The Rangers stuff..........or am I just wrong, pure and simple ? :confused:

I don't think you're wrong at all.

It's a new theory on me, I have to say. If he has played that sort of long game, that's worthy of Francis Urquhart/Frank Underwood in its scheming. :greengrin

He spotted an opportunity. RFC, a potentially enormous brand, were struggling due to the incompetence of those who owned it. In hindsight, he was never going to lose out.

[truehibernian]

I don't think you're wrong at all.

It's a new theory on me, I have to say. If he has played that sort of long game, that's worthy of Francis Urquhart/Frank Underwood in its scheming. :greengrin

He spotted an opportunity. RFC, a potentially enormous brand, were struggling due to the incompetence of those who owned it. In hindsight, he was never going to lose out.

I just think he knows and has enjoyed knowing he has them hamstrung.........huge brand, a support who are 'limited' in their thought process (dare I say much like Newcastle fans :greengrin), and he knew before the process started that regardless of what he ended up with, he would ultimately end up with a support buying into the club......literally.

Nothing has stopped Newcastle fans buying seasons and merchandise. Hence on a smaller scale, with a chance that The Rangers get into the SPL, The Rangers fans will follow suit........I spoke with someone who supports them and ran this by him and he said 'ah no danger, we would just stop buying strips if we thought he was mugging us off'.......to which I said 'but at Christmas, if your wee boy wants Santa to get him the new The Rangers strip and a wee mug, would you say no ?'

I have (as you can tell) limited financial knowledge.......but I do think Ashley has played a long game, and played it well.......peed off a support so much to the point where King and Co have had to weigh in and take 'control'......but really Mr Ashley has all the control of the fans moooolah !

[s.a.m]

Thanks for the compliment, but I haven't much of a scoobie either. I reckon we're now past any sort of business-type story, and it's all about a gladiatorial thing. When 2 guys like DK and MA, who don't actually need the cash, it becomes about ego, testosterone and power.

I agree, though, that MA will not be quiet for long.

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[Bostonhibby]

Chris Graham on his new chairman's criticism of Craig Whyte.

Chris Graham on Paul Murray's concerns over Craig Whyte's pursuit of 'buying' Rangers. Labelled his new chairman a 'jilted lover' and said his concerns were just 'sour grapes' and for him to stop his bitching.

CG: "Many fans have rounded on Paul Murray and Alastair Johnston for their frequent participation in these attacks and although I don’t doubt that the former board members may feel they are doing the right thing, I have to say it is hard to see their comments as anything other than sour grapes.

"They seem incapable of putting across their concerns without sniping at Whyte like jilted lovers. There is also, tellingly, a total lack of any alternative put forward by them. You want to sit them down and say “Ok guys we get it. You don’t like or trust Whyte but what exactly are you proposing?”

"Their repeated calls for fans to be vigilant are totally redundant as the fans have no alternative but to trust Whyte to steer us past the HMRC case and beyond. Murray et al had four years to come up with an alternative and couldn’t. It’s time for them to stop bitching and allow us to examine Whyte’s tenure on its merits and over a sensible period of time once this tax case has reached a conclusion."

So are you telling me this graham figure is a hypocrite or a multi spotted leopard?

[jacomo]

See, what my take is CWG, and hopefully and gladly you can correct me - I think Ashley has played a blinder here.......he has slowly taken up a % share, obtained the crucial merchandising rights.....well knowing in the background that The Rangers will eventually rebel, get 'their men' in place......which in turn galvanises a support.......and the lemming type support then buy strips, pennants, mugs (:greengrin) and dvd's.........Ashley unconcerned (really) that he has 'lost the battle' but secretly knows he has 'won'......because he has engineered a fanbase united and who buy lots of The Rangers stuff..........or am I just wrong, pure and simple ? :confused:

:agree:

This is the theory that MA only cares about making money from the OF. If he controls the merch and the club doesnae go bust again, he's laughing all the way to the bank.

Wait til Der Hun are back up and he'll make a play for Celtc too.

[hibees 7062]

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[portycabbage]

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Ian Black could always get his brushes out, not sure how cheap he is though.

[Aldo]

I wonder if it's possible for Ashley or Newcastle to recall the 5 loanees der Hun have.

Out of spite for what has happened??

[Jim44]

I wonder if it's possible for Ashley or Newcastle to recall the 5 loanees der Hun have.

Out of spite for what has happened??

As somebody said, a cross-border loan arrangement can't be broken by one party, a la Hull and Oxley. However, I don't know the rule if both clubs consent.

[greenginger]

Suspending Llambias and Leach from the football club board whist investigations into the past running of the Club is got to be a joke.

Llambias did not arrive until the end of November 2014 and Leach at the beginning of January.

The till dippers were all long gone but the new guys in charge have to talk tough.

[portycabbage]

I wonder if it's possible for Ashley or Newcastle to recall the 5 loanees der Hun have.

Out of spite for what has happened??

Given that they're pretty much all injured, and that the rangers are presumably paying for them, he might just leave them where they are out of spite!

[Keith_M]

Suspending Llambias and Leach from the football club board whist investigations into the past running of the Club is got to be a joke.

Llambias did not arrive until the end of November 2014 and Leach at the beginning of January.

The till dippers were all long gone but the new guys in charge have to talk tough.


It also has no basis in Scottish Law.


I've tried posting that on the comments section of various sections of the SMSM and my comment is always removed. Strangely, no Scottish Churnalist has thought it worth mentionng either.

:hmmm:

[CropleyWasGod]

It also has no basis in Scottish Law.


I've tried posting that on the comments section of various sections of the SMSM and my comment is always removed. Strangely, no Scottish Churnalist has thought it worth mentionng either.

:hmmm:

According to one thing I read, a director can have their powers suspended, but not their directorship. In other words, they can go to meetings, but not participate.

Not sure, however, if that was a lazy journo applying English Law.

[greenginger]

According to one thing I read, a director can have their powers suspended, but not their directorship. In other words, they can go to meetings, but not participate.

Not sure, however, if that was a lazy journo applying English Law.


http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/mar/10/rangers-suspend-mike-ashley-allies-derek-llambias


Jack Irvine , Easedale's spokesman agrees. :aok:

[Andy74]

According to one thing I read, a director can have their powers suspended, but not their directorship. In other words, they can go to meetings, but not participate.

Not sure, however, if that was a lazy journo applying English Law.

I would think they would be able to have their executive powers suspended but not in their roles as Directors.

[CropleyWasGod]

I would think they would be able to have their executive powers suspended but not in their roles as Directors.

No matter the reality, there will be 2 sets of lawyers talking now.

Expensive lawyers. :greengrin

[Keith_M]

No matter the reality, there will be 2 sets of lawyers talking now.

Expensive lawyers. :greengrin


Lawyers and Accountants, the Leeches of society (apologies to any Leeches reading this)

[CropleyWasGod]

Lawyers and Accountants, the Leeches of society (apologies to any Leeches reading this)

V

[Keith_M]

V


Two minutes to get a reaction, you're getting slow



:greengrin

[CropleyWasGod]

Two minutes to get a reaction, you're getting slow



:greengrin

I was actually trying to find some crap pun based on the Rangers guy Leech.

In the end, a simple GTF always works best, though.

:greengrin

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Deary me, how the mighty have fallen eh :faf:


Anyone on here willing to go over and "lend a hand" :greengrin

[Peevemor]

Deary me, how the mighty have fallen eh :faf:


Anyone on here willing to go over and "lend a hand" :greengrin

I see they're not asking for masons - they must have enough already! :tee hee:

ps. Just a throw-away joke before any resident goat ****gers start giving me a hard time!

pps. "Goat ****gers" is just a joke too!

[Platinum Scotty]

Deary me, how the mighty have fallen eh :faf:


Anyone on here willing to go over and "lend a hand" :greengrin

Such a "big club" eh!!!!

on another note, brave man publishing his mobile number, would expect that to get some traffic - albeit not of the most helpful kind!!!

[Houchy]

I wonder if it's possible for Ashley or Newcastle to recall the 5 loanees der Hun have.

Out of spite for what has happened??

I hope not, they're absolutely honkin'.

[greenginger]

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Painters, sparks and joiners required , fair enough, but Welders ! Is the place that bad ? :greengrin

[lexihibby]

Painters, sparks and joiners required , fair enough, but Welders ! Is the place that bad ? :greengrin

No need to advertise for masons I see.

[Billy Whizz]

Suggestions from Jim Whyte's interview with DK on sky sports, that Rangers need energy at Managerial level, to give them the best chance of promotion. Would think we may be facing a Rangers team a week on Sunday, with a new Manager in charge, but the same old players

[Ozyhibby]

Suggestions from Jim Whyte's interview with DK on sky sports, that Rangers need energy at Managerial level, to give them the best chance of promotion. Would think we may be facing a Rangers team a week on Sunday, with a new Manager in charge, but the same old players

Rumour on twitter that McCall has been asked.

[Ozyhibby]

http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/ashley-price/

27 mill to do walking away?

[Northernhibee]

McCall manager to end of season.

[Ozyhibby]

Stuart McCall, Craig Brown and Mark McGhee all done really well when working under Leeann Dempster but all fell to pieces the minute they did not have her to hold their hand.
With Murray park a shambles I think McCall will struggle.

[Billy Whizz]

Rumour on twitter that McCall has been asked.

McCall said that he was enjoying his Scotland role, and would find it difficult to do both jobs

[GreenLake]

Lawyers and Accountants, the Leeches of society (apologies to any Leeches reading this)

If you add CFAs to that then I have retained a Triumvirate of Annelida in the last quarter. :greengrin

[Michael]

McCall is a good manager. He'll give them a bit of a lift I think.

[Onion]

Huns are in free-fall and need to be doing something to arrest it. McDowell is a disaster, even worse than McCoist, so McCall as manager makes sense to try get them over the line.

Hibs need to keep their heads, win games and ramp up the pressure. Don't think the Huns have got the players to stop the rot :greengrin

[Thecat23]

McCall manager to end of season.

Now that it's out, it's been in the process for couple of weeks. Still can't believe some bookies were offering 7/2 on him.

[Springbank]

http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/ashley-price/

27 mill to do walking away?

Those figures suggest King needs a good manager willing to work at below market value, or indeed for free.

[Jim44]

McCall is a good manager. He'll give them a bit of a lift I think.

Nearly any new face in the dugout would give them a lift but I don't think McCall will turn them round as effectively as they and some on here think. He'll probably halt their downward slide to some extent and they'll probably end up as our main hurdle for promotion but we have nothing to fear from them, as has every other team in the Championship.

[Billy Whizz]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-send-manager-sos-ibrox-5313612

[Smartie]

Those figures suggest King needs a good manager willing to work at below market value, or indeed for free.

Those figures suggest to me that the new manager will be given a bumper salary, enviable pay-off package, no link to his "performance" in the job, and a bumper transfer/wage kitty with scant thought given to where the money to pay it is actually going to come from.

As usual.

[CropleyWasGod]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-send-manager-sos-ibrox-5313612

Subtly different from the BBC story.

[Billy Whizz]

Subtly different from the BBC story.

What does the Bbc story say

[CropleyWasGod]

What does the Bbc story say

The BBC are saying that he is to be appointed. The Record are saying that he has been asked.

[Spike Mandela]

It's like Dave King has walked in to a Goven Hostelry and asked all the punters what they would like to see happen at Ibrox.

Cries of " get they Ashley *******s oot"', "get John Greig back"', " get McCall in" and "get a real fan oan the board" in admidst chants about a Catholic leader and some 19th century Irish brotherhood.

[Cropley10]

So DK and mini-Murray are in and everything is OK now?

I thought Rangers were only surviving financially, to pay their bills, with money from MA.

How do they afford to have three managers?

[Cropley10]

It's like Dave King has walked in to a Goven Hostelry and asked all the punters what they would like to see happen at Ibrox.

Cries of " get they Ashley *******s oot"', "get John Greig back"', " get McCall in" and "get a real fan oan the board" in admidst chants about a Catholic leader and some 19th century Irish brotherhood.

"Get rid of they Easedales, Bring an Orange tap oot, Get wired into they ***** at the SFA, get that warchest out and sign everyone elses best players" etc etc :greengrin

[sh00byd00]

Can he get the likes of Black, Moshi monsters, foster etc all playing better? Nah, that'd need a magician.

[Deansy]

McCall is a good manager. He'll give them a bit of a lift I think.

Them and the GFA - expect more involvement from Craig Thomson now as 'The Cause' must prevail !!

[Iggy Pope]

Now that it's out, it's been in the process for couple of weeks. Still can't believe some bookies were offering 7/2 on him.

Have they paid out?

[Thecat23]

Have they paid out?

No idea, it's my mates account that we put the bet on. I'll find out later when he's finished.


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