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CallumLaidlaw
18-01-2012, 10:11 AM
We have 2 French players and Arsenal youngster Rhys Murphy, on trial

We failed in a loan bid for ex Aberdeen player Chris Maguire

Sodje is training with a Belgian club

Source - http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/296316

St Johnstone have taken Derby winger Lee Croft on loan

Source - http://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/ju...1%2F7439854%2F

Beefster
18-01-2012, 10:51 AM
Will be sad to see Sodje go. For all his failings, he scored goals for us when we needed them and never gave less than 100%. A good guy IMHO.

I'm never a fan of trialists and it suggests that our transfer strategy is a mess/non-existent but we'll see.

flash
18-01-2012, 10:54 AM
Last season i would agree but not sure i have seen him break sweat for months.

greenlex
18-01-2012, 10:58 AM
Will be sad to see Sodje go. For all his failings, he scored goals for us when we needed them and never gave less than 100%. A good guy IMHO.

I'm never a fan of trialists and it suggests that our transfer strategy is a mess/non-existent but we'll see.
Agree about Sodje Beefster.
I reckon we have players in mind and as always it depends on goings on elsewhere. whether their clubs have relacements in the pipeline that maybe fall through or not as the case may be. that sort of thing.
Nothing wrong with having a look at players meantime that maybe were not on our radar but could do a job if the opportunity presents itself.
We are should be and I think are are looking past just staying up and the balance of the squad past the end of the season shouldn't be forgotten about with so many players contracts up in the summer. I think we are seeing this with the players that have left this window.
Happy enough so far with a good number of days left to strengthen further.

.Sean.
18-01-2012, 10:59 AM
Lee Croft will be a very good signing for St J I reckon.

TowerHibs
18-01-2012, 11:02 AM
Will be sad to see Sodje go. For all his failings, he scored goals for us when we needed them and never gave less than 100%. A good guy IMHO.

I'm never a fan of trialists and it suggests that our transfer strategy is a mess/non-existent but we'll see.

Yeah I kind of agree in regards to trials however it is the way football has gone. No point in scouts as clubs are skint and players are more or less missionaries now! Players get freed and go on trial all the time now. I remember the only time you heard anyone going for a trial was part timers coming into train or the odd player coming in from outside the Professional game! Agents and players rule transfer policy now - extremely hard for any manager to go Out and get the player he has watched for 6 months and ultimately mould a team

PatHead
18-01-2012, 11:02 AM
Notice on BBC website that Dundee Utd are not going to offer Danny Swanston a new contract. I had heard in October, from a very good source in Dundee, that his agent was saying he would be signing for Hibs. Don't know if that will still happen under PF though as Calderwood was manager at the time.

brog
18-01-2012, 11:11 AM
Notice on BBC website that Dundee Utd are not going to offer Danny Swanston a new contract. I had heard in October, from a very good source in Dundee, that his agent was saying he would be signing for Hibs. Don't know if that will still happen under PF though as Calderwood was manager at the time.

That's v surprising given he's been in a Scotland squad in last year. However Houston's more of a grafter than a "flair" player manager, could never imagine him being interested in Deeks so on reflection perfectly possible.

easty
18-01-2012, 11:11 AM
Notice on BBC website that Dundee Utd are not going to offer Danny Swanston a new contract. I had heard in October, from a very good source in Dundee, that his agent was saying he would be signing for Hibs. Don't know if that will still happen under PF though as Calderwood was manager at the time.

As much as I'd like him in our team, he'd want a decent wage and is injured a lot. Dunno if it would be worth it or better to look elsewhere.

Spike Mandela
18-01-2012, 11:13 AM
Post match interviews on Saturday and PF was saying things would be clearer in 48hrs regarding a couple of deals. Anyone heard anything?

Andy74
18-01-2012, 11:20 AM
Yeah I kind of agree in regards to trials however it is the way football has gone. No point in scouts as clubs are skint and players are more or less missionaries now! Players get freed and go on trial all the time now. I remember the only time you heard anyone going for a trial was part timers coming into train or the odd player coming in from outside the Professional game! Agents and players rule transfer policy now - extremely hard for any manager to go Out and get the player he has watched for 6 months and ultimately mould a team

Latapy, Boozy and Benji were amongst players to come for trials so don't knock it! It can often just be to assess fitness at this time of year and to assess their character more than their football ability.

Persevere80
18-01-2012, 11:21 AM
Dundee Utd not intrested in upping there offer for Hamilton's D Imrie. Do you think he would do a job for the hibs?

easty
18-01-2012, 11:31 AM
Dundee Utd not intrested in upping there offer for Hamilton's D Imrie. Do you think he would do a job for the hibs?

Doesnt interest me.

PeterboroHibee
18-01-2012, 11:50 AM
Notice on BBC website that Dundee Utd are not going to offer Danny Swanston a new contract. I had heard in October, from a very good source in Dundee, that his agent was saying he would be signing for Hibs. Don't know if that will still happen under PF though as Calderwood was manager at the time.

He is a superb player but his injury problems would be a concern. United spent quite a lot of money sending him to specialists who reported they couldnt find anything wrong, and Im sure it was Houston who said its all in his head. If someone could get him over that he would be an excellent signing however./

CallumLaidlaw
18-01-2012, 12:27 PM
Liam McLeod on twitter -

#Falkirk's Farid El Alagui is just one of the names on #Aberdeen manager Craig Brown's target list, remains hopeful 1 or 2 more this month

And

Jack Grimmer completes move from #Aberdeen to #Fulham, like Scott Allan, it seems you don't have to earn your moves these days! #onestart

Speedway
18-01-2012, 12:45 PM
So in summary, the transfer update is that there is no transfer update?

Hibbyradge
18-01-2012, 12:48 PM
So in summary, the transfer update is that there is no transfer update?

And I'd forecast that this will be remain the case until the end of the transfer window unless we buy or sell some players.

stokesmessiah
18-01-2012, 12:57 PM
And I'd forecast that this will be remain the case until the end of the transfer window unless we buy or sell some players.

All we need to make that happen is for an interested club to make an offer we think is suitable or indeed for us to make an offer to a club that is deemed suitable. Once that has happened terms would be discussed with the player in question and following a successful conclusion to these talks this player would then be bought or sold.

AlbertK86
18-01-2012, 01:05 PM
Liam McLeod on twitter -

#Falkirk's Farid El Alagui is just one of the names on #Aberdeen manager Craig Brown's target list, remains hopeful 1 or 2 more this month

And

Jack Grimmer completes move from #Aberdeen to #Fulham, like Scott Allan, it seems you don't have to earn your moves these days! #onestart

Grimmer was an absolute standout for Scotland in Victory Shield a couple of years back. Obviously one for the future

scoopyboy
18-01-2012, 01:07 PM
We have 2 French players and Arsenal youngster Rhys Murphy, on trial

We failed in a loan bid for ex Aberdeen player Chris Maguire

Sodje is training with a Belgian club

Source - http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/296316

St Johnstone have taken Derby winger Lee Croft on loan

Source - http://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/ju...1%2F7439854%2F

We also have a big Finnish bloke on trial, a total of 4 at the moment.

JimBHibees
18-01-2012, 01:09 PM
Grimmer was an absolute standout for Scotland in Victory Shield a couple of years back. Obviously one for the future

Quite depressing him and Allan moving to no doubt an EPL Reserve or Youth team when they could be pushing for SPL first team spots up here. Dont think it will benefit their careers but no doubt they and their agents will be better off.

Andy74
18-01-2012, 01:10 PM
We also have a big Finnish bloke on trial, a total of 4 at the moment.

Someone tell Mixu it's over.

Ozyhibby
18-01-2012, 01:11 PM
We also have a big Finnish bloke on trial, a total of 4 at the moment.

Mixu been running up Arthur seat again?

Spike Mandela
18-01-2012, 01:11 PM
We also have a big Finnish bloke on trial, a total of 4 at the moment.

Maybe you have an insight in to how these things work Scoopyboy? I presume we have our concrete targets which we are progressing in the usual manner of negotiations whilst in other business agents are hawking various players about who are invited for trials here there and everywhere and Hibs have shown some interest in these four.

scoopyboy
18-01-2012, 01:30 PM
Maybe you have an insight in to how these things work Scoopyboy? I presume we have our concrete targets which we are progressing in the usual manner of negotiations whilst in other business agents are hawking various players about who are invited for trials here there and everywhere and Hibs have shown some interest in these four.

The three foreign trialists have come via an agent (Salvatori that used to play for HOMOFC).

I think there are two modes as you have suggested Spike. Concrete targets and ones that are getting pushed at you and it might be worth having a wee look at.

I was wondering if Rhys Murphy had anything to do with a recommendation from George Francomb.

superfurryhibby
18-01-2012, 01:34 PM
Doesnt interest me.

He is way better than any of the wide players we have at the club at present. The guy has good attitude and works hard, as well as a reasonable degree of skill. I'd have him at ER, no question.

Swanson, never really established himself as a first team regular and as a few have pointed out, injury prone.

SMAXXA
18-01-2012, 01:35 PM
The three foreign trialists have come via an agent (Salvatori that used to play for HOMOFC).

I think there are two modes as you have suggested Spike. Concrete targets and ones that are getting pushed at you and it might be worth having a wee look at.

I was wondering if Rhys Murphy had anything to do with a recommendation from George Francomb.

I met Salvatori and his business associate a few months back and he came across as a very nice guy, talked various things Hibs and Hearts. He is/was a good friend of Sauzee's so he informed me. He was a bit taken aback when pointing out how bi a hero Frank is amongst Hibs fans, he didnt appreciate to that extent. He gave me his business card, think its still in the house somewhere, might rake it out tonight and give him a bell for the low down on these players :greengrin

Spike Mandela
18-01-2012, 01:36 PM
The three foreign trialists have come via an agent (Salvatori that used to play for HOMOFC).

I think there are two modes as you have suggested Spike. Concrete targets and ones that are getting pushed at you and it might be worth having a wee look at.

I was wondering if Rhys Murphy had anything to do with a recommendation from George Francomb.

Interesting, cheers Scoopyboy.

DanHFC1875
18-01-2012, 01:38 PM
We have 2 French players and Arsenal youngster Rhys Murphy, on trial

We failed in a loan bid for ex Aberdeen player Chris Maguire

Sodje is training with a Belgian club

Source - http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/296316

St Johnstone have taken Derby winger Lee Croft on loan

Source - http://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/ju...1%2F7439854%2F


So in short, Chris Maguire told us to Ram it! lol

Hibs90
18-01-2012, 01:53 PM
Rhys Murphy is meant to be a very decent player. I'd rather we went for some midfielders though, mind you who's saying we aren't.

Andy74
18-01-2012, 02:44 PM
Rhys Murphy is meant to be a very decent player. I'd rather we went for some midfielders though, mind you who's saying we aren't.

Middlesbrough and Rangers both quoted with an interest in him last year. Obviously never went anywhere though.

I'd class this one as an opportune one which could add a bit of quality but maybe not an immediate priority.

SneakersO'Toole
18-01-2012, 03:28 PM
Re Swanson, there is a reason he doesn't play much and its nothing to do with fact he is injure prone. The rumour I've heard a couple of times is that he has a un-explained problem with his heart. Apparently something he has had since childhood and that doctors can't diagnose.

Shame for the lad if true as there is no doubting he is a talent.

SMAXXA
18-01-2012, 03:59 PM
Re Swanson, there is a reason he doesn't play much and its nothing to do with fact he is injure prone. The rumour I've heard a couple of times is that he has a un-explained problem with his heart. Apparently something he has had since childhood and that doctors can't diagnose.

Shame for the lad if true as there is no doubting he is a talent.

I havnt heared that one to be honest, would be surprised if true but lets hope not.

Lets face it we already have a problem with one Hart at Hibs, the fact we blomming have one. FWIW I would take Swanson, injuries aside he is better than any of our wingers IMO.

Sergeant Hibs
18-01-2012, 04:12 PM
Middlesbrough and Rangers both quoted with an interest in him last year. Obviously never went anywhere though.

I'd class this one as an opportune one which could add a bit of quality but maybe not an immediate priority.

You are right we'd be better signing a CH and a winger or 2 first but if Sodje's going we will only have 4 STs (Griff, Doyle, GOC, Caldwell) so we'd be ****ed if 2 got injured and one of them has only played one or two games off the bench so I'd understand if Sodje was hitting the high road. Especially if GOC is leaving too

HibeeMassive
18-01-2012, 04:15 PM
Re Swanson, there is a reason he doesn't play much and its nothing to do with fact he is injure prone. The rumour I've heard a couple of times is that he has a un-explained problem with his heart. Apparently something he has had since childhood and that doctors can't diagnose.

Shame for the lad if true as there is no doubting he is a talent.


He did have trouble with his heart when he was very young, but as far as I'm aware there's nothing troubling him now in that regard.

Sergeant Hibs
18-01-2012, 04:27 PM
Is that Mustapha Riga guy we were looking at French by any chance :dunno:

hibsboy90
18-01-2012, 04:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITcj6yBl5Zk

Rhys Murphy Goal v spurs in the Youth Cup

Cocaine&Caviar
18-01-2012, 04:41 PM
Is that Mustapha Riga guy we were looking at French by any chance :dunno:

Dutch.

SquashedFrogg
18-01-2012, 04:54 PM
Slightly off topic but does anyone know what happened to the Twigg pun thread?

ancient hibee
18-01-2012, 05:01 PM
Slightly off topic but does anyone know what happened to the Twigg pun thread?


Rooted out.

SquashedFrogg
18-01-2012, 05:03 PM
Rooted out.

Because a few miserable sod's complained?? Unbelievable :confused:

Thanks for letting me know ancient...

Pretty Boy
18-01-2012, 05:08 PM
Because a few miserable sod's complained?? Unbelievable :confused:

Thanks for letting me know ancient...

It's in the dug out if you want it.

HNA6
18-01-2012, 05:09 PM
Because a few miserable sod's complained?? Unbelievable :confused:

Thanks for letting me know ancient...Really ? perhaps some folk would rather read about possible transfers or transfer discussion without the need to wade through piles of tripe, I know what I prefer..

But if you really need your "pun" fix, the thread in question is in the Dug Out forum ..fill your boots ..

SquashedFrogg
18-01-2012, 05:10 PM
It's in the dug out if you want it.

Thanks mate.

Back on-topic, let's hope this lad Murphy has the same impact as Stokes did when he arrived from Arsenal to Falkirk.

SquashedFrogg
18-01-2012, 05:17 PM
So in short, Chris Maguire told us to Ram it! lol

Whoooah!! Careful mate with any puns or humour related posts :rules:

Some miserable sod will be on here in a flash complaining.

For the record, whilst we don't seem to have attracted him to us on loan, I'm happy to know that at least we're trying to bring in players of his age and quality rather than journey men.

SRHibs
18-01-2012, 05:22 PM
Whoooah!! Careful mate with any puns or humour related posts :rules:

Some miserable sod will be on here in a flash complaining.


Give it a rest. :rolleyes:

The previous thread is now where it belongs - in the Dugout. Why don't you go there and post some of your puns instead of greeting about it in here.

OT: Don't know if I'd be particularly happy with filling the squad with young players like Francomb, Murphy etc. Would prefer tried and tested players who will definitely have the quality to help us pull away from the bottom of the table, but I guess those that would be interested in playing for us are few and far between.

SquashedFrogg
18-01-2012, 05:25 PM
Really ? perhaps some folk would rather read about possible transfers or transfer discussion without the need to wade through piles of tripe, I know what I prefer..

But if you really need your "pun" fix, the thread in question is in the Dug Out forum ..fill your boots ..

In that case I'd suggest quite a few more threads on here that should be moved. I've lost count at the number of threads which appear on here to discuss a specific topic only to be hi-jacked and taken down different paths. I've waded through many piles of tripe on here.

I'm astonished that after months and months of negativity on .net that people are getting upset over a humorous and light hearted thread.

SquashedFrogg
18-01-2012, 05:31 PM
Give it a rest. :rolleyes:

The previous thread is now where it belongs - in the Dugout. Why don't you go there and post some of your puns instead of greeting about it in here.

OT: Don't know if I'd be particularly happy with filling the squad with young players like Francomb, Murphy etc. Would prefer tried and tested players who will definitely have the quality to help us pull away from the bottom of the table, but I guess those that would be interested in playing for us are few and far between.

I've got more serious things to worry about but I think you'll find that you were were the one 'greeting' on this thread. I'm assuming you still haven't worked out what hyperbole means yet btw?

OT:

Francomb looked every inch a quality young player when he came on on Sat. I'm assuming/hoping Murphy will be of similar quality and itching to play competitive football and prove a point to his employers.

We've kind of been down the tried and tested route and simply can't afford/entice quality, experienced players who will improve us.

IMHO

Dinkydoo
18-01-2012, 05:36 PM
We've kind of been down the tried and tested route

Have we?

HNA6
18-01-2012, 05:39 PM
In that case I'd suggest quite a few more threads on here that should be moved. I've lost count at the number of threads which appear on here to discuss a specific topic only to be hi-jacked and taken down different paths. I've waded through many piles of tripe on here.I'm astonished that after months and months of negativity on .net that people are getting upset over a humorous and light hearted thread.Aw come on ..there are always gonna be threads that go a bit off the point & some we let run their course .. but the transfer thread in question was ruined totally with inane drivel (or humour as you would call it) so it completely lost its way therefore was moved to a more suitable forum.Nowt stopping you starting a hilarious "pun" thread in the Dug Out forum is there ..?

Now can we get back on topic please ..:aok:

easty
18-01-2012, 05:41 PM
Have we?

Aye. We signed players who were tried and tested. They were sitting resits at Hibs....usually they fail again.

SquashedFrogg
18-01-2012, 05:46 PM
Have we?

Yes we have.

Sodje, Aggogo, Hart, Sproule, Cregg, McBride, Kerr to name a few of the top of my head from recent times. The days of bringing in experience like Mixu, Zittelli, Franck, Russ, John O'Neil etc are gone.

My point is that if we're going to attract players of a higher quality we're going to have to look at players say in their early 20's who aren't playing and have a point to prove.

Guys like Griffiths and Francomb for example.

SquashedFrogg
18-01-2012, 05:47 PM
Aw come on ..there are always gonna be threads that go a bit off the point & some we let run their course .. but the transfer thread in question was ruined totally with inane drivel (or humour as you would call it) so it completely lost its way therefore was moved to a more suitable forum.Nowt stopping you starting a hilarious "pun" thread in the Dug Out forum is there ..?

Now can we get back on topic please ..:aok:

Ok boss :aok:

SRHibs
18-01-2012, 06:01 PM
I've got more serious things to worry about but I think you'll find that you were were the one 'greeting' on this thread. I'm assuming you still haven't worked out what hyperbole means yet btw?

OT:

Francomb looked every inch a quality young player when he came on on Sat. I'm assuming/hoping Murphy will be of similar quality and itching to play competitive football and prove a point to his employers.

We've kind of been down the tried and tested route and simply can't afford/entice quality, experienced players who will improve us.

IMHO

No, I've not, sorry. Surprised you know the definition yourself, considering you haven't yet got to grips with the placement - or lack of - of apostrophes in plurals. 'Miserable sod's' aye? I can be a pedant too.

And no, I was not greeting.

EDIT: Sorry HNA6. I'm done.

Dinkydoo
18-01-2012, 06:03 PM
Yes we have.

Sodje, Aggogo, Hart, Sproule, Cregg, McBride, Kerr to name a few of the top of my head from recent times. The days of bringing in experience like Mixu, Zittelli, Franck, Russ, John O'Neil etc are gone.

My point is that if we're going to attract players of a higher quality we're going to have to look at players say in their early 20's who aren't playing and have a point to prove.

Guys like Griffiths and Francomb for example.

The whole point in buying 'tried and tested' players though is that they are supposed to come with the experience of actually having achieved something and/or played at a consistently good level.

I don't think that any one of the names in the first aforementioned list came with that kind of pedigree.

I do agree with what you're saying about not being able to attract a good quality of 'experienced' player, but you can't really say that we've been down the "tried and tested" route, and it's not going to work for us, just because the experienced players we've signed have been rubbish. That to me says that the man behind these signings at the time should have been trying harder to find players within our budget who do have a somewhat 'proven track record'.

Stokes is a good example.......we knew exactly what we were going to get with him.

machibby
18-01-2012, 06:28 PM
No, I've not, sorry. Surprised you know the definition yourself, considering you haven't yet got to grips with the placement - or lack of - of apostrophes in plurals. 'Miserable sod's' aye? I can be a pedant too.

And no, I was not greeting.

EDIT: Sorry HNA6. I'm done.

Hyperbole - an obvious exaggeration, seems to me you used the work perfectly.

ScottB
18-01-2012, 06:44 PM
Quite depressing him and Allan moving to no doubt an EPL Reserve or Youth team when they could be pushing for SPL first team spots up here. Dont think it will benefit their careers but no doubt they and their agents will be better off.

It's these 'homegrown player' rules that are coming in, so the better off EPL clubs will now just buy up any talented looking youngster early so they will count as a homegrown if they make it to the first team.

In the long run these rules will weaken smaller clubs, losing their more talented youngsters much sooner and for potentially less cash.

Lago
18-01-2012, 07:13 PM
Aw come on ..there are always gonna be threads that go a bit off the point & some we let run their course .. but the transfer thread in question was ruined totally with inane drivel (or humour as you would call it) so it completely lost its way therefore was moved to a more suitable forum.Nowt stopping you starting a hilarious "pun" thread in the Dug Out forum is there ..?

Now can we get back on topic please ..:aok:

I thought it was great, very inventive on the part of some folks.

Dashing Bob S
18-01-2012, 07:18 PM
Give it a rest. :rolleyes:

The previous thread is now where it belongs - in the Dugout. Why don't you go there and post some of your puns instead of greeting about it in here.

OT: Don't know if I'd be particularly happy with filling the squad with young players like Francomb, Murphy etc. Would prefer tried and tested players who will definitely have the quality to help us pull away from the bottom of the table, but I guess those that would be interested in playing for us are few and far between.

Go home ya puns?

Pretty Boy
18-01-2012, 07:27 PM
I thought it was great, very inventive on the part of some folks.

I generally quite like the pun threads and find them fairly amusing.

I think the difference here was that the thread in question.actually contained info.some people may have found interesting, however they would have been forced to wade through about 2 pages of puns to read the topic. When the threads are nonsense or not overly serious I see no.problems with the puns but on this occasion the admins are spot on. It had turned into nonsense, its not deleted so if someone fancies a chuckle at it or to add to it they are perfectly free to do so.

snooky
18-01-2012, 07:31 PM
Go home ya puns?

You're sailing close to the wind there DBS :greengrin

Love it, keep 'em coming :stirrer:

Tonez
18-01-2012, 07:48 PM
Ross County have approached Hibs to take Jimmy Scott back up the road on loan.

SMAXXA
18-01-2012, 07:52 PM
I generally quite like the pun threads and find them fairly amusing.

I think the difference here was that the thread in question.actually contained info.some people may have found interesting, however they would have been forced to wade through about 2 pages of puns to read the topic. When the threads are nonsense or not overly serious I see no.problems with the puns but on this occasion the admins are spot on. It had turned into nonsense, its not deleted so if someone fancies a chuckle at it or to add to it they are perfectly free to do so.

I tend to disagree a we bit mate, all that thread had going for it info wise was the first page with the links to the stories etc, lets face it there isnt much anyone knows just now other than these links the rest is generally just speculation / guessnwork. I was feeling stressed last night and that thread actually cheered me up, after all thats part of what Hibs.net does for me, a break from things and have the odd laugh aswell as being informed.

I guess thats the beauty of messageboards they are for the diverse, not everyones the same and have the same views so who are people to say whats right or wrong and what should and shouldnt be allowed in a thread (unless its offesive of course).

SMAXXA
18-01-2012, 07:54 PM
Ross County have approached Hibs to take Jimmy Scott back up the road on loan.

Not a huge surprise, I like Scott and would be sad to see him go but if we can get someone better which I recon we possibly could, then good deal for all concerned. If he does go I wouldnt imagine he would return IMO

bingo70
18-01-2012, 08:36 PM
Ross County have approached Hibs to take Jimmy Scott back up the road on loan.

I think we've lost enough players this window, even if we sign another midfielder I'd rather we kept Scott

NORTHERNHIBBY
18-01-2012, 09:01 PM
Ross County have approached Hibs to take Jimmy Scott back up the road on loan.


I would think that he will get a jersey every week up there and would continue to get one when County play in the SPL next season.

Green and white
18-01-2012, 09:06 PM
Will be sad to see Sodje go. For all his failings, he scored goals for us when we needed them and never gave less than 100%. A good guy IMHO.

I'm never a fan of trialists and it suggests that our transfer strategy is a mess/non-existent but we'll see.

I think the board don't want to take risks on players without seeing them in training/closed doors games to see what they're like. I would rather they study a player before signing them to ensure we don't make poor signings like the last bunch.

Off topic but would anyone like to see Dean Sheils make a return to ER? I know it would be hard to get him away from Killie as his old boy is the manager but he's been on fire this season.

blackpoolhibs
18-01-2012, 09:08 PM
I think the board don't want to take risks on players without seeing them in training/closed doors games to see what they're like. I would rather they study a player before signing them to ensure we don't make poor signings like the last bunch.

Off topic but would anyone like to see Dean Sheils make a return to ER? I know it would be hard to get him away from Killie as his old boy is the manager but he's been on fire this season.

I think thats rubbish, i dont think the board make the signings.

RickyS
18-01-2012, 09:12 PM
Ross County have approached Hibs to take Jimmy Scott back up the road on loan.

where did you hear this mate?

SMAXXA
18-01-2012, 09:14 PM
I think thats rubbish, i dont think the board make the signings.

Thats the exact thoughts that came into my head when I read it :agree:, im sure if Pat walked into the officer and said want to sign me, he wouldnt have to justify why to a board of pen pushers, contrary to what some would like to believe IMO

Beefster
19-01-2012, 10:16 AM
Thats the exact thoughts that came into my head when I read it :agree:, im sure if Pat walked into the officer and said want to sign me, he wouldnt have to justify why to a board of pen pushers, contrary to what some would like to believe IMO

If Fenlon didn't have to, at least, justify his targets to the Board, the Board would be negligent IMHO. There's a difference between having to justify a decision to the Board and the Board actually deciding who we sign.

J-C
19-01-2012, 10:20 AM
PF will be told the wage budget and the transfer budget, hence why getting rid of certain players opens up more money for wages, if he can get in some loan/ free deals, then the transfer budget can be moved to pay for the wages, simple balancing act.

Andy74
19-01-2012, 10:40 AM
If Fenlon didn't have to, at least, justify his targets to the Board, the Board would be negligent IMHO. There's a difference between having to justify a decision to the Board and the Board actually deciding who we sign.

I don't think he has to justify the players he is looking at, just the costs overall.

I'm sure he will chat with SL about particular players but SL will have no desire to influence or challenge what is a footballing decision.

I'm sure the chat will be more around how much of the budget do you want to go to for this guy and at what stage do you move on to someone else.

greenlex
19-01-2012, 10:57 AM
I don't think he has to justify the players he is looking at, just the costs overall.

I'm sure he will chat with SL about particular players but SL will have no desire to influence or challenge what is a footballing decision.

I'm sure the chat will be more around how much of the budget do you want to go to for this guy and at what stage do you move on to someone else.
:agree: Yup just like what happened with Sheridan last window. There came a time when enough was enough and any deal was stopped.

SMAXXA
19-01-2012, 11:04 AM
I don't think he has to justify the players he is looking at, just the costs overall.

I'm sure he will chat with SL about particular players but SL will have no desire to influence or challenge what is a footballing decision.

I'm sure the chat will be more around how much of the budget do you want to go to for this guy and at what stage do you move on to someone else.

:agree:

keep the faith
19-01-2012, 11:15 AM
Ross County have approached Hibs to take Jimmy Scott back up the road on loan.

Think that would be a good arrangement all round

PeterboroHibee
19-01-2012, 12:16 PM
Ross County have approached Hibs to take Jimmy Scott back up the road on loan.

Scotts a decent player but not sure Id be too bothered if he left. The lack of transfer activity is worrying though and has been said, as bad as the squad is, we cant just keep letting players go without anyone coming in.

Hibs90
19-01-2012, 12:16 PM
Think that would be a good arrangement all round

Nah, wanna keep Scott. Decent player.

PatHead
19-01-2012, 12:31 PM
Would keep Scott

CallumLaidlaw
19-01-2012, 12:38 PM
Twitter - Several SPL clubs have been offered Dutch striker Ruud ter Heide but there is no money to buy him, possibly a free with a 50% sell on

According to wiki he was linked to dundee utd and middlesborough in 2010

SquashedFrogg
19-01-2012, 12:48 PM
Nah, wanna keep Scott. Decent player.

Decent player yes, but based on what I've seen, a first division player at best.

Wouldn't be disappointed in the slightest if he left. Saturday confirmed that to me.

JimBHibees
19-01-2012, 01:02 PM
Nah, wanna keep Scott. Decent player.

He is a decent player however he has failed to cement a place in a very poor Hibs team so if he can be a makeweight for getting someone better (Goodwin for example) then all well and good.

sesoim
19-01-2012, 01:49 PM
Have we signed a centre back yet?

BEEJ
19-01-2012, 01:54 PM
Have we signed a centre back yet?
Oddly ...... no!

Craig_in_Prague
19-01-2012, 02:19 PM
Have we signed a centre back yet?

I am fully behind Pat and have felt better about my team the last 2 weeks, but I have to admit I'm getting a little nervous now - think we need min 1 new CH and also 1 or 2 better midfielders........ Hope to god we've not exhausted our targets and are now scraping about trying to get whatever we can.

PeterboroHibee
19-01-2012, 02:33 PM
I am fully behind Pat and have felt better about my team the last 2 weeks, but I have to admit I'm getting a little nervous now - think we need min 1 new CH and also 1 or 2 better midfielders........ Hope to god we've not exhausted our targets and are now scraping about trying to get whatever we can.

Still got time but Id agree, it does seem a while ago we were linked to certain players and just havent heard anything since. I dont get the impression hes going to sign players for the sake of it though, and that he would rather just stick with what we have if theres noone else.

We've won 2 games in a row now so I suppose it might be a case of seeing how they respond on Saturday against a team who will be a much bigger test.

stokesmessiah
19-01-2012, 02:40 PM
I too am starting to get slightly concerned. What I am worried about is after the Pars game he said things should progress in the next 48 hrs and nearly a week later there is nothing!!?

SteveHFC
19-01-2012, 02:50 PM
We will leave things too late like last season to get players in.

Andy74
19-01-2012, 02:54 PM
We will leave things too late like last season to get players in.

So the bit about Fenlon working night and day since he arrived on getting players in is just what? Lies?

We've signed 3 players so far and have also been working hard to get people out which is also half the battle.

Too many people playing football manager these days I think and believing you just one day think you want to sign a player and then hey presto it happens.

Would you have players just signed on the basis of how quickly they will arrive??

These players are meant to be long term and to do us for the coming years, not just the next week or two.

Leithenhibby
19-01-2012, 03:07 PM
We will leave things too late like last season to get players in.


Breath, and relax .......

We have almost two weeks, well 12 days to get this sorted. plenty time, so stop your scaremongering :na na:

ancienthibby
19-01-2012, 03:51 PM
A Beeb update:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16636171.stm

green glory
19-01-2012, 04:14 PM
So at the moment we'll have Rhys Murphy on trial in the next few days. PF is talking to St Midden re Jim Goodwin, not to mention the 2 mysterious French dudes whose identities remain a mystery. Anyone know who they are?

Bayern Bru
19-01-2012, 04:20 PM
Goodwin on a pre-contract seems to be doing the rounds.

Isn't that a bit late for a team short on midfielders?

Spike Mandela
19-01-2012, 04:26 PM
So the bit about Fenlon working night and day since he arrived on getting players in is just what? Lies?

We've signed 3 players so far and have also been working hard to get people out which is also half the battle.

Too many people playing football manager these days I think and believing you just one day think you want to sign a player and then hey presto it happens.

Would you have players just signed on the basis of how quickly they will arrive??

These players are meant to be long term and to do us for the coming years, not just the next week or two.

2 of the 3 players signed so far aren't for the long term and the other is 18 months.:confused:

DC_Hibs
19-01-2012, 04:30 PM
Goodwin on a pre-contract seems to be doing the rounds.

Isn't that a bit late for a team short on midfielders?

Stage 1 - agree pre contract with player
Stage 2 - THEN negotiate with the club.

Makes sense really.

JimBHibees
19-01-2012, 04:37 PM
Goodwin on a pre-contract seems to be doing the rounds.

Isn't that a bit late for a team short on midfielders?

If true it would be an attempt to force Saints hand and would quickly be followed up with a bid to try and get him now. Whether Saints would accept that would be the decider whether he were to come now or in the summer?

PeterboroHibee
19-01-2012, 04:40 PM
Goodwin on a pre-contract seems to be doing the rounds.

Isn't that a bit late for a team short on midfielders?

We will try and offer St Mirren something, which is better than nothing in the summer. It depends what they value him at for the rest of the season.

ancienthibby
19-01-2012, 04:40 PM
If true it would be an attempt to force Saints hand and would quickly be followed up with a bid to try and get him now. Whether Saints would accept that would be the decider whether he were to come now or in the summer?

Now that they have bought Imrie from Accies, I imagine the Paisley bank account will be a bit bare, so there should be a deal to be done between the clubs (I assume Goodwin may have already signed a pre-contract?).

Mark79
19-01-2012, 04:43 PM
Goodwin on a pre-contract seems to be doing the rounds.

Isn't that a bit late for a team short on midfielders?

I think it's quite common to agree a pre contract then negotiate a fee with the team if possible. If we get him this window and they get a small fee then good but if not they get nowt and we get a free at end of season.

Bayern Bru
19-01-2012, 04:47 PM
All making sense now folks, cheers!

Mark79
19-01-2012, 06:24 PM
Goodwin on a pre-contract seems to be doing the rounds.

Isn't that a bit late for a team short on midfielders?

I think it's quite common to agree a pre contract then negotiate a fee with the team if possible. If we get him this window and they get a small fee then good but if not they get nowt and we get a free at end of season.

H18sry
19-01-2012, 06:38 PM
Accies have agreed a deal with St Mirren for the transfer of Dougie Imrie. It will be concluded and confirmed tomorrow, this may let Goodwin join us :wink:

fatbloke
19-01-2012, 06:40 PM
So at the moment we'll have Rhys Murphy on trial in the next few days. PF is talking to St Midden re Jim Goodwin, not to mention the 2 mysterious French dudes whose identities remain a mystery. Anyone know who they are?

Pepe LePew and Jean L'Escargot

fatbloke
19-01-2012, 06:43 PM
We will try and offer St Mirren something, which is better than nothing in the summer. It depends what they value him at for the rest of the season.

Galbraith, Hart....

lucky
19-01-2012, 06:45 PM
Thought I heard on real radio Goodwin had signed for a nominal fee?

Diclonius
19-01-2012, 06:45 PM
So, any chance of Hearts doing their usual and offering double our wages? :wink:

J-C
19-01-2012, 06:57 PM
Thought I heard on real radio Goodwin had signed for a nominal fee?

The boys were winding up the lass on the show, she's a buddies fan

Tonez
19-01-2012, 07:07 PM
where did you hear this mate?



A relative who plays for County.

Dr Jimmy
19-01-2012, 07:21 PM
Has the John Sutton interest gone?

nonshinyfinish
19-01-2012, 07:46 PM
So, any chance of Hearts doing their usual and offering double our wages? :wink:

Yep, paid on the 32nd of each and every month.

Dashing Bob S
19-01-2012, 07:53 PM
Has the John Sutton interest gone?

I think he blew the interest on his wages on a half pint of lager.

Eyrie
19-01-2012, 08:37 PM
I too am starting to get slightly concerned. What I am worried about is after the Pars game he said things should progress in the next 48 hrs and nearly a week later there is nothing!!?
We got knocked back by Maguire and Murphy arrived for a trial, moves are being made.

Could do with a CH though.

RickyS
19-01-2012, 09:55 PM
A relative who plays for County.

:aok:

Sas_The_Hibby
19-01-2012, 11:01 PM
Pepe LePew and Jean L'Escargot

Sauce?

Bordelaise perhaps. :wink:

Captain Trips
19-01-2012, 11:06 PM
I would expect to see Goodwin at Hibs in next 24hrs.

fatbloke
19-01-2012, 11:09 PM
Sauce?

Bordelaise perhaps. :wink:

Merde more like:greengrin

Gmack7
19-01-2012, 11:11 PM
goodwin friday
another goodwin sat

Niffy
20-01-2012, 05:58 AM
goodwin friday
another goodwin sat

I see what you did there....

IWasThere2016
20-01-2012, 06:28 AM
I would expect to see Goodwin at Hibs in next 24hrs.

He has told Saints he wants to move to Hibs

mjhibby
20-01-2012, 08:16 AM
Fenlon has said a few times that he is looking for mostly loan deals to take us through to the end of the season and then the serious transfers will happen the windows after that.We must be realistic in that everybody is getting loan deals although if we can get someone in long term then im sure he will do it.Leave the papers to speculate and paddy to get on with his job.

bingo70
20-01-2012, 08:31 AM
Fenlon has said a few times that he is looking for mostly loan deals to take us through to the end of the season and then the serious transfers will happen the windows after that.We must be realistic in that everybody is getting loan deals although if we can get someone in long term then im sure he will do it.Leave the papers to speculate and paddy to get on with his job.

Not doubting you but have you got any links for that? I've not heard him say that, if anything i thought he was saying the opposite as he said he keeps getting offered youngsters (pressumably on loan but don't think he actually said that) but thats not what he's looking for.

Joe
20-01-2012, 08:38 AM
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/296782/Old-heads-needed-to-help-young-bucks

CallumLaidlaw
20-01-2012, 10:22 AM
Dougie Imrie confirmed on a 2.5 year contract for st mirren this morning.

Hopefully we'll see Goodwin announced at least on a pre contract soon

MB62
20-01-2012, 10:53 AM
So the bit about Fenlon working night and day since he arrived on getting players in is just what? Lies?

We've signed 3 players so far and have also been working hard to get people out which is also half the battle.



I must have been sniffing too much wallpaper paste recently and my heid has gone soft. I know Doyle and Francomb signed but who is the other one?

GordonHFC
20-01-2012, 10:55 AM
I must have been sniffing too much wallpaper paste recently and my heid has gone soft. I know Doyle and Francomb signed but who is the other one?

Griffiths ?

Spike Mandela
20-01-2012, 10:57 AM
Dougie Imrie confirmed on a 2.5 year contract for st mirren this morning.

Hopefully we'll see Goodwin announced at least on a pre contract soon

St Mirren forums suggesting that they have agreed to Goodwins wage demands on a two year contract.

If Hibs Want him they will have to put in a better wage offer then pay fee to get him in this window.

This will be a test of Hibs resolve and financial muscle now. A move to Hibs from St Mirren used to be a no brainer but if we lose out to St Mirren on a player nowadays would anybody really be surprised.

stokesmessiah
20-01-2012, 10:57 AM
Just a hunch but i think we might have an announcement today.

Spike Mandela
20-01-2012, 10:59 AM
Griffiths ?

Andy likes to be pedantic on this matter. Better to say 3 signings but two NEW additions.:rolleyes:

blackpoolhibs
20-01-2012, 10:59 AM
I must have been sniffing too much wallpaper paste recently and my heid has gone soft. I know Doyle and Francomb signed but who is the other one?

We have only actually signed one, Doyle. The other two Francomb and Griffiths are loans. Not that that bothers me, if Fenlon thinks he can get through the season with a couple of signings and a few loans, while getting shot of the crap AND keeping us up, fine.

I said this last season when calderclown was in charge, but the real work starts in the summer. And while calderclown wouldnt know a decent player if one kicked him right in the baws, i have a gut feeling Fenlon does.

This season is knackered, and survival is the main object now, if we can have a wee run in the cup all the better.

Andy74
20-01-2012, 11:05 AM
Andy likes to be pedantic on this matter. Better to say 3 signings but two NEW additions.:rolleyes:

Well he was due to be away by now and they want to sell him so we did a deal to have him here. I'd count that as a loan deal which has been done this window.

MB62
20-01-2012, 11:13 AM
We have only actually signed one, Doyle. The other two Francomb and Griffiths are loans. Not that that bothers me, if Fenlon thinks he can get through the season with a couple of signings and a few loans, while getting shot of the crap AND keeping us up, fine.

I said this last season when calderclown was in charge, but the real work starts in the summer. And while calderclown wouldnt know a decent player if one kicked him right in the baws, i have a gut feeling Fenlon does.This season is knackered, and survival is the main object now, if we can have a wee run in the cup all the better.

You know BH, I have the exact same feeling with regards Pat. I think his whole demeanor is totally different from his predecessor, in a positive way, and I get the impression Pat knows exactly what he needs and wants and right now is all about short term survival in the hope that come the summer, he can sit down and start the serious rebuilding for next season, in the SPHELL. This is the exact opposite, IMO, of Calderwood, who gave me the impression hw never had a clue how to achieve anything positive on the park and frankly never looked liked he cared about that either.

I think Pat is a 'no nonsense' type guy who will not stand for laziness on the park and is trying hard to change the mentality of the players AND supporters. I don't think the support needs much persuasion to get back on side, just a couple of results in the league and some breathing space from the bottom, and some sort of sign of improvement, something I felt we never had under C.C.

Feeling a bit more positive about things at the moment and tomorrow is another HUGE game for us to win and get us even more behind the team.

truehibernian
20-01-2012, 11:15 AM
St Mirren forums suggesting that they have agreed to Goodwins wage demands on a two year contract.

If Hibs Want him they will have to put in a better wage offer then pay fee to get him in this window.

This will be a test of Hibs resolve and financial muscle now. A move to Hibs from St Mirren used to be a no brainer but if we lose out to St Mirren on a player nowadays would anybody really be surprised.

You would think, however St Mirren are pretty much debt free, very well run (although looking for a buyer), and have a small training centre too. Good form, good team, and seem to have a real team spirit this last two seasons.

We are second bottom, managers have come and gone, fans have been rather depressed and there is no continuity of players/managers. Add into the mix that Goodwin is highly rated/thought of by team mates and fans, and he may feel very comfortable at St Mirren......for me, absolutely no surprise.

Hypothetically, at present, if I were to join an SPL club it would either be St Mirren or Dundee Utd at present......Dundee Utd in particular have had a fantastic continuity, a hugely supportive and honest chairman (and his father before him), very good at identifying young SFL talent, and seem to be together as a team.

We (Hibs) have only ourselves to blame if players are rightly taking their time. Our board (and this is not a board bashing comment) shoulder as much of the blame as Hughes and Calderwood for the position we are in. If our chairman retained his current business acumen, but coupled it with perhaps Stephen Thompson's outlook on the game, refreshing honesty and openness to the fanbase, and support of his staff, I think we would be a healthier club all round. It's always irked me somewhat Rod's unwillingness to go a bit more public, show a bit more openness to the fans, and been a bit more proactive with the media, rather than hide behind club statements and AGM's.

Personally I love having Pat Fenlon fronting things at the moment. You sense enthusiasm, desire, an upbeat approach, but above all honesty from him. In such contrast to CC (and I backed CC to get it right too). Fenlon looks like a 'roll the sleeves up' manager and the last one to turn the lights out at training. He could be the one that players are convinced by.....so Goodwin may indeed be convinced by him, not so much Hibs.

CallumLaidlaw
20-01-2012, 11:20 AM
After reading the St Mirren forums I'm not very optimistic that we'll get Goodwin in. 11 days left in the window to bring in at least 2 new faces. Let's hope we can get things done

Hibee87
20-01-2012, 11:20 AM
Anyone rember this guy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo%C3%ABl_Thomas ?


Appernetly the one of the french guys on trial :confused: dont recall him at accies

Andy74
20-01-2012, 11:26 AM
You would think, however St Mirren are pretty much debt free, very well run (although looking for a buyer), and have a small training centre too. Good form, good team, and seem to have a real team spirit this last two seasons.

We are second bottom, managers have come and gone, fans have been rather depressed and there is no continuity of players/managers. Add into the mix that Goodwin is highly rated/thought of by team mates and fans, and he may feel very comfortable at St Mirren......for me, absolutely no surprise.

Hypothetically, at present, if I were to join an SPL club it would either be St Mirren or Dundee Utd at present......Dundee Utd in particular have had a fantastic continuity, a hugely supportive and honest chairman (and his father before him), very good at identifying young SFL talent, and seem to be together as a team.

We (Hibs) have only ourselves to blame if players are rightly taking their time. Our board (and this is not a board bashing comment) shoulder as much of the blame as Hughes and Calderwood for the position we are in. If our chairman retained his current business acumen, but coupled it with perhaps Stephen Thompson's outlook on the game, refreshing honesty and openness to the fanbase, and support of his staff, I think we would be a healthier club all round. It's always irked me somewhat Rod's unwillingness to go a bit more public, show a bit more openness to the fans, and been a bit more proactive with the media, rather than hide behind club statements and AGM's.

Personally I love having Pat Fenlon fronting things at the moment. You sense enthusiasm, desire, an upbeat approach, but above all honesty from him. In such contrast to CC (and I backed CC to get it right too). Fenlon looks like a 'roll the sleeves up' manager and the last one to turn the lights out at training. He could be the one that players are convinced by.....so Goodwin may indeed be convinced by him, not so much Hibs.

I don't care where we are in the league respectively right now, anyone that would chose to sign for St Mirren instead of Hibs would need their head looked at.

Hibs are a bigger club than people realise, even ourselves sometimes, but for a player, it's night and day to these other teams. You just have to look around at the working conditions on most away trips to realise that.

blackpoolhibs
20-01-2012, 11:27 AM
You know BH, I have the exact same feeling with regards Pat. I think his whole demeanor is totally different from his predecessor, in a positive way, and I get the impression Pat knows exactly what he needs and wants and right now is all about short term survival in the hope that come the summer, he can sit down and start the serious rebuilding for next season, in the SPHELL. This is the exact opposite, IMO, of Calderwood, who gave me the impression hw never had a clue how to achieve anything positive on the park and frankly never looked liked he cared about that either.

I think Pat is a 'no nonsense' type guy who will not stand for laziness on the park and is trying hard to change the mentality of the players AND supporters. I don't think the support needs much persuasion to get back on side, just a couple of results in the league and some breathing space from the bottom, and some sort of sign of improvement, something I felt we never had under C.C.

Feeling a bit more positive about things at the moment and tomorrow is another HUGE game for us to win and get us even more behind the team.

:agree: My thoughts exactly, while we were like a rowing boat without any oars under calderclown, i believe we now have an aim a purpose, and someone who actually wants to be at the club, and is trying his hardest in A, getting everyone pulling in the same direction, and B, taking no **** and doing it his way.

I like you, feel much more positive now, i know it wont go smoothly but i am confident he will keep us up, and the future will be a lot brighter.:pfgwa

Andy74
20-01-2012, 11:27 AM
Anyone rember this guy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo%C3%ABl_Thomas ?


Appernetly the one of the french guys on trial :confused: dont recall him at accies

He's rubbish. I think he somewhow played for Sunderland or someone similar in a pre season game against us and then signed for Hamilton.

CallumLaidlaw
20-01-2012, 12:05 PM
Mark Kerr has signed for Dunfermline till the end of the season.

truehibernian
20-01-2012, 12:12 PM
I don't care where we are in the league respectively right now, anyone that would chose to sign for St Mirren instead of Hibs would need their head looked at.

Hibs are a bigger club than people realise, even ourselves sometimes, but for a player, it's night and day to these other teams. You just have to look around at the working conditions on most away trips to realise that.

Normally Andy I would not disagree with your comments about Hibs and our standing. But looking at St Mirren as an example, I'm afraid they have terrific working conditions when you break it all down. Lovely new stadium, albeit smaller (some would argue less fans, however when you look at us, we have an extra 4-5000 fans to boo not cheer), their training centre is small but adequate, but above all DL seems to have galvanised a not bad wee team and fan spirit after a tricky opening spell to his management. Paisley is near Glasgow (a negative for me :greengrin) so some see that as a selling point. They do offer decent pay as they are debt free. In fact, other than Hibs of late, I think St Mirren are one of the few SPL clubs to have paid a transfer fee for a player.

So nope, I don't think Goodwin would need to examine his head....he is their club captain, feels liked and appreciated, may be getting offered the same terms as we are offering, and a 2 year deal for his age is decent. His family may well be settled too. The only difference at present (and I mean right here and now) is that more people go through the turnstiles at Easter Road......with Saints higher up the league.

If he is up for a right good challenge, being integral (and captain) in a new regime and a better culture at a club, and wants to play in games like the derby and put us where we all think we should be......he will choose Hibs. If he is happy, settled, and likes where he is, you can't blame any player for taking a slightly easier route/decision regardless of sizes of clubs.

Now if you had said Motherwell........................................ .:greengrin

scoopyboy
20-01-2012, 12:43 PM
St Mirren forums suggesting that they have agreed to Goodwins wage demands on a two year contract.

If Hibs Want him they will have to put in a better wage offer then pay fee to get him in this window.

This will be a test of Hibs resolve and financial muscle now. A move to Hibs from St Mirren used to be a no brainer but if we lose out to St Mirren on a player nowadays would anybody really be surprised.

Are St.Mirren forums full of intelligent people though Spike?

Yesterday they were wanting to put their willies into pencil sharpeners!!!!

Goodwin / agent could be playing one off against the other at the moment to get a better deal.

silverhibee
20-01-2012, 12:49 PM
Not doubting you but have you got any links for that? I've not heard him say that, if anything i thought he was saying the opposite as he said he keeps getting offered youngsters (pressumably on loan but don't think he actually said that) but thats not what he's looking for.

I am sure Fenlon said he was looking to bring in experience just last week and that he wasn't wanting to bring youngsters to the club, this was said round about the time he signed Francomb from Norwich who is a youngster.

stokesmessiah
20-01-2012, 12:54 PM
I am sure Fenlon said he was looking to bring in experience just last week and that he wasn't wanting to bring youngsters to the club, this was said round about the time he signed Francomb from Norwich who is a youngster.

It was after Francomb and he also acknowledged that with Francomb now in the team he would not want any more youngsters and needed to bring in experienced players to help them out.

CallumLaidlaw
20-01-2012, 12:56 PM
Hearts have rejected a bid from Crawley Town for Ryan Stevenson. English club now in talks over pre-contract offer http://t.co/2XZG8o74

silverhibee
20-01-2012, 12:58 PM
St Mirren forums suggesting that they have agreed to Goodwins wage demands on a two year contract.

If Hibs Want him they will have to put in a better wage offer then pay fee to get him in this window.

This will be a test of Hibs resolve and financial muscle now. A move to Hibs from St Mirren used to be a no brainer but if we lose out to St Mirren on a player nowadays would anybody really be surprised.



If Hibs cant offer more money then Goodwin will stay at St Mirren, this will be his last big pay day and who pays the bigger wages will get there man.

truehibernian
20-01-2012, 01:09 PM
If Hibs cant offer more money then Goodwin will stay at St Mirren, this will be his last big pay day and who pays the bigger wages will get there man.

Would agree with that SH, also a potential deal killer would be if Kenny McLean gets his move down south. You could be talking a sizeable six figure transfer fee which DL could use to secure Goodwin easily and still keep the Saints board happy with funds to spare. Brinksmanship is the name of the game at present.

BEEJ
20-01-2012, 01:16 PM
It was after Francomb and he also acknowledged that with Francomb now in the team he would not want any more youngsters and needed to bring in experienced players to help them out.
And yet we are apparently giving a trial to Rhys Murphy? :dunno:

Andy74
20-01-2012, 01:16 PM
It was after Francomb and he also acknowledged that with Francomb now in the team he would not want any more youngsters and needed to bring in experienced players to help them out.

Though I'm sure that is also not set in stone like so many people like to do with our managers words.

Sometimes opportunities come up and you take them. If Murphy is any good for example from Arsenal then I'm sure he'd take him.

Craig_in_Prague
20-01-2012, 01:20 PM
And yet we are apparently giving a trial to Rhys Murphy? :dunno:

I'm sure Pat is looking for more experience for CH and CM positions.

Goodwin would cover the CM part and the likes of McPake or whomever for CH.

These are the positions which appear to be taking longer to fill, because quite clearly he wants quality/experience and is prepared to wait till he gets what he wants.

Doesn't mean we WILL get them, but at least it's not without the lack of trying nor with the best of intentions for team.

CmoantheHibs
21-01-2012, 06:49 AM
Sandaza not going to rangers.He rejected their offer of a pre contract and rangers have withdrawn the offer.Fair play to him.Not many players with SPL clubs reject the infirm unless they have better offers down south.

stokesmessiah
21-01-2012, 07:01 AM
And yet we are apparently giving a trial to Rhys Murphy? :dunno:

Good point, I can only assume this is an opportunity that has arisen that was too good too miss for PF?

I have read that it might be a loan til the end of the season and then a perm deal and maybe he sees him as a real prospect for the coming seasons??

stokesmessiah
21-01-2012, 07:02 AM
Though I'm sure that is also not set in stone like so many people like to do with our managers words.

Sometimes opportunities come up and you take them. If Murphy is any good for example from Arsenal then I'm sure he'd take him.

:agree:

Yeah i agree totally.

stokesmessiah
21-01-2012, 07:06 AM
Sandaza not going to rangers.He rejected their offer of a pre contract and rangers have withdrawn the offer.Fair play to him.Not many players with SPL clubs reject the infirm unless they have better offers down south.

Its a strange one. Sandaza has never scored as much as he has been of late and his stock is high and he obviously thinks he can get a better deal as a free agent. I just hope for him his purple patch doesn't end now and he is kicking himself come the end of the season as he ends up with bog all on the table. That's when the line "I always knew in my heart that i was going to sign on for the saints again" line gets trotted out.

AlbertK86
21-01-2012, 08:14 AM
[QUOTE=blackpoolhibs;3079926]We have only actually signed one, Doyle. The other two Francomb and Griffiths are loans. Not that that bothers me, if Fenlon thinks he can get through the season with a couple of signings and a few loans, while getting shot of the crap AND keeping us up, fine.

I said this last season when calderclown was in charge, but the real work starts in the summer. And while calderclown wouldnt know a decent player if one kicked him right in the baws, i have a gut feeling Fenlon does.

This season is knackered, and survival is the main object now, if we can have a wee run in the cup all the better.[/QUOTE

Apart from ozzy

CallumLaidlaw
22-01-2012, 05:05 PM
#Spurs boss Harry Redknapp has reiterated his admiration for #Celtic winger James Forrest

NEWS: Hammers and Gers in Jelavic talks (via BBC Sport) http://fwp.co/NAfR9d

Manxhibs
22-01-2012, 07:44 PM
James mcpake has apparently signed on loan

Scouse Hibee
22-01-2012, 07:46 PM
James mcpake has apparently signed on loan

A reliable source?

SteveHFC
22-01-2012, 07:46 PM
James mcpake has apparently signed on loan


http://twitter.com/#!/JamesMcPake
Love the fresh air up here!!! http://pic.twitter.com/Maq7u8Ik
(http://t.co/Maq7u8Ik)
Not another Loan FFS! :aok:

Manxhibs
22-01-2012, 07:49 PM
A reliable source?

Skysports

Scouse Hibee
22-01-2012, 07:50 PM
Skysports


:aok:

SRHibs
22-01-2012, 07:51 PM
Loans are fine with me if we can attract some decent players. Fenlon can rebuild properly in the summer, but for now, loans to help us stay up are OK.

Eyrie
22-01-2012, 07:53 PM
Loans are fine with me if we can attract some decent players. Fenlon can rebuild properly in the summer, but for now, loans to help us stay up are OK.
Agreed.

JimBHibees
22-01-2012, 07:54 PM
Loans are fine with me if we can attract some decent players. Fenlon can rebuild properly in the summer, but for now, loans to help us stay up are OK.

if true McPake is exactly what we need loan or not.

greenlex
22-01-2012, 08:03 PM
Sky Sources rather than fact at the minute. Fingers crossed. :agree:

matty_f
22-01-2012, 08:07 PM
Hope this is happening, and I hope Goodwin signs soon as well. The more players in the merrier. God knows we need them.

greenlex
22-01-2012, 08:08 PM
Hope this is happening, and I hope Goodwin signs soon as well. The more players in the merrier. God knows we need them.
:agree: But the right players. Both strike me as exactly what we need. I hope they both sign too

Aldo
22-01-2012, 08:11 PM
Hope this is happening, and I hope Goodwin signs soon as well. The more players in the merrier. God knows we need them.

Agree here Matty but remember one thing. Quality not quantity. ;-)

Golden Bear
22-01-2012, 08:16 PM
if true McPake is exactly what we need loan or not.

Providing he is fully fit and ready to play immediately.

jaf
22-01-2012, 08:18 PM
Heard this rumour this afternoon from a very reliable source who let me know about Palssons departure an hour or two before it was up here.
Guy definitely has contacts as East Mains. I know that much for sure.

matty_f
22-01-2012, 08:18 PM
Agree here Matty but remember one thing. Quality not quantity. ;-)

Lots of good players please!

NORTHERNHIBBY
22-01-2012, 08:19 PM
I would like to see another centre half come in on a proper contract and at the same time, O'Hanlon takes the long walk South. Would be a firm show of intent.

R'Albin
22-01-2012, 08:22 PM
Just popped up on SSN, lets hope so :flag:

Edit- Just noticed it's mentioned in Transfer update thread, feel free to merge admins....

DH1875
22-01-2012, 08:22 PM
if true McPake is exactly what we need loan or not.


I take it he's a centre back?

Aldo
22-01-2012, 08:23 PM
Lots of good players please!

O yes.. As I say hopefully signing McPake (if true) will show and hopefully see us getting Goodwin as well, which would give us a good spine to the team. We shall see

frazeHFC
22-01-2012, 08:24 PM
:thumbsup:

One of his team-mates referred to him as a Vermaelen that doesn't make errors on twitter. :greengrin :pray:

Broken Gnome
22-01-2012, 08:24 PM
If that's the case, sod the fact it's short-term. We can't do without right now.

AFKA5814_Hibs
22-01-2012, 08:25 PM
Loans are fine with me if we can attract some decent players. Fenlon can rebuild properly in the summer, but for now, loans to help us stay up are OK.

Agreed. If we can get some quality loan signings that help us stay in the SPL then that's fine by me. Of course we'd all want quality players on 2/3 yr deals but given our current situation i'm not too sure if many will want to commit to Hibs right now.

Albion Hibs
22-01-2012, 08:26 PM
Sky Sources rather than fact at the minute. Fingers crossed. :agree:

I heard this was a done deal and there was another one on the way.

Good news and fair play to the board for backing the manager to get some new faces in.

R'Albin
22-01-2012, 08:26 PM
Agreed. If we can get some quality loan signings that help us stay in the SPL then that's fine by me. Of course we'd all want quality players on 2/3 yr deals but given our current situation i'm not too sure if many will want to commit to Hibs right now.

:agree:

Aldo
22-01-2012, 08:31 PM
I heard this was a done deal and there was another one on the way.

Good news and fair play to the board for backing the manager to get some new faces in.

Spill the beans Albion. Please tell me it's Goodwin or another MF enforcer

I'm_cabbaged
22-01-2012, 08:32 PM
I heard this was a done deal and there was another one on the way.

Good news and fair play to the board for backing the manager to get some new faces in.
Hopefully that's why BB openly commented on our central defence

The Tubs
22-01-2012, 08:32 PM
Aboot time. It's just a pity we didnae sign that O'Hanlon gadgie on a loan as well.

The_Todd
22-01-2012, 08:32 PM
Agreed. If we can get some quality loan signings that help us stay in the SPL then that's fine by me. Of course we'd all want quality players on 2/3 yr deals but given our current situation i'm not too sure if many will want to commit to Hibs right now.

Abso-friggin-lutely. Summer window is for the major long-term rebuild. This windows is to do everything in our power to ensure survival.

Albion Hibs
22-01-2012, 08:33 PM
Spill the beans Albion. Please tell me it's Goodwin or another MF enforcer

In all honesty not sure. I am of course hoping it will be someone for the middle of the park. No more enforcers for me though, we have a midfield of guys that can run around, I am hoping it will be someone that has a pass on them.

Aldo
22-01-2012, 08:36 PM
In all honesty not sure. I am of course hoping it will be someone for the middle of the park. No more enforcers for me though, we have a midfield of guys that can run around, I am hoping it will be someone that has a pass on them.

Enforcer aka Goodwin or similar can Tackle, pass and is a leader.

erin go bragh
22-01-2012, 08:37 PM
Spill the beans Albion. Please tell me it's Goodwin or another MF enforcer
Could do with a creative midfielder asap , but a ch is another step in the right direction.



ggtth

CallumLaidlaw
22-01-2012, 08:40 PM
Could do with a creative midfielder asap , but a ch is another step in the right direction.



ggtth

Wonder if Stephen Hughes has found a club yet.

Stevie Reid
22-01-2012, 08:43 PM
Sky sources are rarely wrong, thank ****. Goodwin as well would be great business, but really can't see him committing himself to Hibs in our current predicament. Stephen Hughes would be a superb signing.

smurf
22-01-2012, 08:55 PM
Good news.

jaf
22-01-2012, 08:57 PM
The story I've been hearing is that Murphy is making a very good impression in training but nothing more than that.

thebakerboy
22-01-2012, 08:59 PM
Don't know anything about McPake , don't remember seeing him play up here. Only thing that slightly worries me is we seem to be calling him our defensive saviour , a player not getting a game for the team bottom of the English Championship. As I say don't ever remember seeing him play but hope Billy Brown knows him also averages less than 20 games a season. I hope he proves to be exactly what we need and will look forward to see him turn our defence round.

down-the-slope
22-01-2012, 09:00 PM
I heard this was a done deal and there was another one on the way.

Good news and fair play to the board for backing the manager to get some new faces in.

:tsk tsk: none of that allowed on here....board bashers will be along shortly to tell you it is despite them :rolleyes:

Pedantic_Hibee
22-01-2012, 09:02 PM
The story I've been hearing is that Murphy is making a very good impression in training but nothing more than that.

What more can he do? He's only been training with us and nothing more?

Unless I've read you wrong and you're meaning you don't have any more info other than he's making a good impression? In which case I am an ar$ehole and I wish I was dead.

Gmack7
22-01-2012, 09:04 PM
The story I've been hearing is that Murphy is making a very good impression in training but nothing more than that.

what more can he do?

R'Albin
22-01-2012, 09:04 PM
What more can he do? He's only been training with us and nothing more?

Unless I've read you wrong and you're meaning you don't have any more info other than he's making a good impression? In which case I am an ar$ehole and I wish I was dead.

I think that is what he meant :greengrin

Pedantic_Hibee
22-01-2012, 09:06 PM
In that case, I wish I was dead. And I'm taking Gmack7 with me as well.

smurf
22-01-2012, 09:07 PM
:tsk tsk: none of that allowed on here....board bashers will be along shortly to tell you it is despite them :rolleyes:

Well going by the chairman's words we will only spend money that we have and as the money we have comes from us supporters maybe its us fans that deserve the credit?

Us fans put money into the club. The board takes money out of the club.

greenlex
22-01-2012, 09:11 PM
Well going by the chairman's words we will only spend money that we have and as the money we have comes from us supporters maybe its us fans that deserve the credit?

Us fans put money into the club. The board takes money out of the club.

Surely it's all our employers that give us the money to give to them that takes the credit?:greengrin

Winston Ingram
22-01-2012, 09:14 PM
I heard this was a done deal and there was another one on the way.

Good news and fair play to the board for backing the manager to get some new faces in.

Just heard the same:agree:

R'Albin
22-01-2012, 09:17 PM
In that case, I wish I was dead. And I'm taking Gmack7 with me as well.

:greengrin

Pedantic_Hibee
22-01-2012, 09:19 PM
He should have been backed from the start, it shouldn't take absolute apathy, seethe and rage from him, Billy Brown and the fans to prompt the shelling of a few pennies.

They get no thanks from me, and I've been a fan of the board up until yesterday's rant.

Dinkydoo
22-01-2012, 09:31 PM
Thank ****.

If true, he needs to be able to play straight away - we really need some organisation at the back.

jaf
22-01-2012, 09:35 PM
What more can he do? He's only been training with us and nothing more?

Unless I've read you wrong and you're meaning you don't have any more info other than he's making a good impression? In which case I am an ar$ehole and I wish I was dead.

Sorry, I read that back and it clearly doesn't read how it sounded in my head :confused:

I did actually mean he was very much impressing. Apologies for the confusion.

bigwheel
22-01-2012, 09:39 PM
Just heard the same:agree:
... Gonna tell us mair. ????

Kaiser1962
22-01-2012, 09:41 PM
He should have been backed from the start, it shouldn't take absolute apathy, seethe and rage from him, Billy Brown and the fans to prompt the shelling of a few pennies.

They get no thanks from me, and I've been a fan of the board up until yesterday's rant.

I understand we have been trying to get McPake for a few weeks but he is/was taking a bit of persuasion to come. Has this been confirmed officially yet?

IberianHibernian
22-01-2012, 09:44 PM
The story I've been hearing is that Murphy is making a very good impression in training but nothing more than that.

Says in Scotsman he`s playing against Partick in a bounce match tomorrow . If McPake has signed then good news though on paper he`s no better than what we`ve got already and there must be question marks about his fitness too . If fit Stephen Mcmanus would be a great signing though wages would be a problem .

R'Albin
22-01-2012, 09:48 PM
Says in Scotsman he`s playing against Partick in a bounce match tomorrow . If McPake has signed then good news though on paper he`s no better than what we`ve got already and there must be question marks about his fitness too . If fit Stephen Mcmanus would be a great signing though wages would be a problem .

Well if Fenlon wants Mcmanus the board should be pulling out all the stops to get him. The cost of his wages for 6 months is nowhere near the cost of relegation!

Hibbyradge
22-01-2012, 09:50 PM
10 goals in 155 appearances.

FFS.

I'm_cabbaged
22-01-2012, 09:51 PM
... Gonna tell us mair. ????

Someone reads post on here, texts him the same info, he posts on here. It's a chain post ;)

Gmack7
22-01-2012, 09:52 PM
In that case, I wish I was dead. And I'm taking Gmack7 with me as well.

can u wait till after a certain game in may as ive promised myself i'm no goin anywhere until we win said game

Northernhibee
22-01-2012, 10:20 PM
The cavalry is arriving - prepare yourselves for battle :greengrin

:pfgwa

CallumLaidlaw
22-01-2012, 10:28 PM
Midlands journo on twitter -

#Stoke midfielders Michael Tonge and Tom Soares are wanted on loan by Hibernian #SCFC

Interesting

big-mo
22-01-2012, 10:30 PM
Looks like McPake will be playing for us in bounce game tomorrow,
it could soon be 2-0 to Big-Mo on names of potential signings, remember where you heard it first.

SteveHFC
22-01-2012, 10:31 PM
Midlands journo on twitter -

#Stoke midfielders Michael Tonge and Tom Soares are wanted on loan by Hibernian #SCFC

Interesting

Yes Please!

James70
22-01-2012, 10:31 PM
James mcpake has apparently signed on loan

Damn, I'd heard it was Jake the Peg with his extra leg, he could have been just what we needed in defence. :wink:

PeterboroHibee
22-01-2012, 10:33 PM
Midlands journo on twitter -

#Stoke midfielders Michael Tonge and Tom Soares are wanted on loan by Hibernian #SCFC

Interesting

Theyd be excellent signings imo. Surely we cant bring anyone else in on loan though?

big-mo
22-01-2012, 10:33 PM
Says in Scotsman he`s playing against Partick in a bounce match tomorrow . If McPake has signed then good news though on paper he`s no better than what we`ve got already and there must be question marks about his fitness too . If fit Stephen Mcmanus would be a great signing though wages would be a problem .

I believe that he played in Coventry's last two games, so he can't be that much out of shape.

Gordy M
22-01-2012, 10:39 PM
Found this on Stoke City forum

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Stoke-send-Michael-Tonge-and-Tom-Soares-to-Hibernian-article856524.html

essexhibee
22-01-2012, 10:42 PM
Michael tonge would be an immense signing.

MrSmith
22-01-2012, 10:46 PM
That would mean that Hibs have given up on Goodwin for this window at least.

stokesmessiah
22-01-2012, 10:46 PM
Found this on Stoke City forum

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Stoke-send-Michael-Tonge-and-Tom-Soares-to-Hibernian-article856524.html


Gads is this real ?????

bighairyfaeleith
22-01-2012, 10:47 PM
how many loan players are we allowed?

No problem with us taking them if they help us just thought there was some limits on the number of loan players you can field

3pm
22-01-2012, 10:47 PM
Michael tonge would be an immense signing.

Don't know what he's like now but he had a great season 6 or 7 years ago for Sheffield United. Scored a barrel load from midfield.

Eyrie
22-01-2012, 10:47 PM
That would mean that Hibs have given up on Goodwin for this window at least.
Could still get him on a pre-contract.

frazeHFC
22-01-2012, 10:47 PM
Michael tonge would be an immense signing.

:thumbsup:

SteveHFC
22-01-2012, 10:49 PM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=184038

Pete
22-01-2012, 10:50 PM
Tonge and Soares are real quality. I hope this happens.

Gordy M
22-01-2012, 10:50 PM
Gads is this real ?????

There is a thread on the Stoke City forum which is called 'the Oatcake' - not sure why its called that??. Thats where i got the link from. No quotes on the article though, so might be rubbish.

brydekirk
22-01-2012, 10:55 PM
This is more like it, exciting stuff.

Albion Hibs
22-01-2012, 10:56 PM
Both are very good players and either would be a welcome edition to the team....well by most hibs fans....there are some complaining about the fact we are bringing in players on loan!!

stokesmessiah
22-01-2012, 10:58 PM
There is a thread on the Stoke City forum which is called 'the Oatcake' - not sure why its called that??. Thats where i got the link from. No quotes on the article though, so might be rubbish.


Someone on there saying Tonge is on a big wedge, interesting to see how much (if true) we are going to be paying toward his wages.

essexhibee
22-01-2012, 10:58 PM
Would be some coup. I mirror what others have said...can't build a team with loanees for the future but currently our priority must be survival and if that's what we have to do then so be it IMO. These two would be starters.

jaf
22-01-2012, 10:58 PM
The other snippet of info that I heard was that there would be 6-7 trialists playing against Partick, but no names were mentioned. Perhaps that info fits in with this Tonge/Soares news plus Murphy, the big Finn if he's still around plus maybe a few others as well?

Pete
22-01-2012, 11:00 PM
I think someone said this earlier but january is for loans as nobody wants to part with decent players. For us its also about fighting fires and needs must.

If the majority of our summer signings are loans then we should start asking questions but I think we're doing the right thing.

Northernhibee
22-01-2012, 11:01 PM
Nutsy is very much the eloquent speaker - think he'll do well at making Hibs sound like an appealing move.

HibbyAndy
22-01-2012, 11:02 PM
Don't know what he's like now but he had a great season 6 or 7 years ago for Sheffield United. Scored a barrel load from midfield.




So did Mcginlay but you hated him.:wink:

HibbyAndy
22-01-2012, 11:04 PM
FWIW Tonge is absolute quality...Now thats what im talking about!! Quality not pishy quantity!!!.. Lets hope this is real, Cause the boy is a player:agree:

Spike Mandela
22-01-2012, 11:05 PM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=184038

Fans not glowing in their praise but that always happens when fringe players leave clubs. I haven't heard of any of the two of them, anyone got any recollections of them?

Jones28
22-01-2012, 11:05 PM
At this rate we'll have a whole new squad by the Aberdeen game! Wouldn't be a bad thing at all mind :wink:

Gordy M
22-01-2012, 11:05 PM
The other snippet of info that I heard was that there would be 6-7 trialists playing against Partick, but no names were mentioned. Perhaps that info fits in with this Tonge/Soares news plus Murphy, the big Finn if he's still around plus maybe a few others as well?

Not that im doubting you for a second mate, but would McPake Soares and Tonge really have to take part in a trial match before signing on loan? I assume it would be to check their fitness??

3pm
22-01-2012, 11:06 PM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=184038

Ha Ha! Stoke fans taking the moral high ground, they've been crap for years! Get in the EPL and act big time Charlie's!!

smurf
22-01-2012, 11:08 PM
This sounds almost exciting!

3pm
22-01-2012, 11:09 PM
So did Mcginlay but you hated him.:wink:

Ha Ha! Very good man!

HibbyAndy
22-01-2012, 11:11 PM
Ha Ha! Very good man!



Thanks.


Im eagle eyed.

IFONLY
22-01-2012, 11:14 PM
Hate to bring gloom to the posts but Tom Soares has played for three teams that got relegated!!!!!! So I`m led to believe.

3pm
22-01-2012, 11:15 PM
Thanks.


Im eagle eyed.

Yer eyesight's not that good if you hang about with Gramo!

Stevie Reid
22-01-2012, 11:15 PM
These would be excellent signings, very pleased.

HibbyAndy
22-01-2012, 11:16 PM
Yer eyesight's not that good if you hang about with Gramo!



:hilarious


True :Ummm:


:greengrin

stokesmessiah
22-01-2012, 11:17 PM
Hate to bring gloom to the posts but Tom Soares has played for three teams that got relegated!!!!!! So I`m led to believe.

And?

Sammy7nil
22-01-2012, 11:17 PM
Hate to bring gloom to the posts but Tom Soares has played for three teams that got relegated!!!!!! So I`m led to believe.

Surely he can't make it 4 :greengrin

CallumLaidlaw
22-01-2012, 11:19 PM
Hate to bring gloom to the posts but Tom Soares has played for three teams that got relegated!!!!!! So I`m led to believe.

Good. He has experience of being involved in a relegation battle.