PDA

View Full Version : NHC EURO 2012 Draw



Mikey
01-12-2011, 04:25 PM
Presumably it's on TV somewhere tomorrow given that the eventual winners, England, are involved?

Hibee87
01-12-2011, 04:29 PM
bbc 2 tomorrow morning i think maybe about 11ish. i mind seeing it in the tv guide the other night :wink:

Mikey
01-12-2011, 04:32 PM
11-ish eh? So they should get to the draw part at around 2pm :greengrin

Ta.

Presumably it's seeded and all that??

Kammy1875
01-12-2011, 04:33 PM
It's on SSN @ 5pm. :agree:

Kammy1875
01-12-2011, 04:34 PM
Also on BBC 2 from 1645:aok:

And yes, here are the pots....

Pot 1: Spain, Netherlands, Poland*, Ukraine*.
Pot 2: Germany, Italy, England, Russia.
Pot 3: Croatia, Greece, Portugal, Sweden.
Pot 4: Denmark, France, Czech Republic, Republic of Ireland

dwlt
01-12-2011, 04:35 PM
1645 GMT, BBC Two/online, according to their website. The draw's supposed to start at 6pm European time, but who knows? :rolleyes:

SteveHFC
01-12-2011, 04:37 PM
It's on SSN @ 5pm. :agree:

**** Off. I won't get to see it :grr:

As i will be heading to Fir Park. :greengrin

Mikey
01-12-2011, 04:37 PM
I might watch from 11am anyway to build up the excitement :greengrin

Pot 1 looks keek. They'll all be praying for Poland and Ukraine.

SteveHFC
01-12-2011, 04:38 PM
Also on BBC 2 from 1645:aok:

And yes, here are the pots....

Pot 1: Spain, Netherlands, Poland*, Ukraine*.
Pot 2: Germany, Italy, England, Russia.
Pot 3: Croatia, Greece, Portugal, Sweden.
Pot 4: Denmark, France, Czech Republic, Republic of Ireland

Spain
Germany
Portugal
France

Please :aok:

Kammy1875
01-12-2011, 04:40 PM
**** Off. I won't get to see it :grr:

As i will be heading to Fir Park. :greengrin

Good man, I'll be in Glasgow about 5 :thumbsup:

Kammy1875
01-12-2011, 04:41 PM
Spain
Germany
Portugal
France

Please :aok:

:agree:

Followed by

Holland
England
Croatia
Ireland

Please :greengrin

SteveHFC
01-12-2011, 04:43 PM
:agree:

Followed by

Holland
England
Croatia
Ireland

Please :greengrin

England will end up getting Poland, Greece and Czech Republic :boo hoo:

Makaveli
01-12-2011, 04:45 PM
Is it really fair that the co-hosts are in Pot 1 when they're the two lowest-ranked sides in the tournament?

IMO hosts should be in whichever pot they would be in if they weren't hosting; they've already had the benefit of not having to qualify and have home advantage to boot.

Kammy1875
01-12-2011, 04:45 PM
England will end up getting Poland, Greece and Czech Republic :boo hoo:

And still baws up :na na:

In fact Poland Ireland and England could cause riots so I'm up for that :greengrin

Kammy1875
01-12-2011, 04:46 PM
Is it really fair that the co-hosts are in Pot 1 when they're the two lowest-ranked sides in the tournament?

IMO hosts should be in whichever pot they would be in if they weren't hosting; they've already had the benefit of not having to qualify.

Yes, because it gives the best chance of keeping national interest in the Tourny if they qualify. :agree:

SteveHFC
01-12-2011, 04:48 PM
And still baws up :na na:

In fact Poland Ireland and England could cause riots so I'm up for that :greengrin

:agree:

Makaveli
01-12-2011, 04:54 PM
Yes, because it gives the best chance of keeping national interest in the Tourny if they qualify.

National interest is hardly relevant to the question of fairness. Germany and Italy would have a right to feel aggrieved at potentially facing Spain or Holland whilst two weaker nations enjoy an easier draw.

Should UEFA go the whole hog and give the hosts dubious refereeing decisions for the same reason, like FIFA did in '34 and '02?

CyberSauzee
01-12-2011, 05:14 PM
VC offering a group of debt special on the draw

"Ireland to be drawn in the same group as - Spain, Italy and Greece 55/1"

Kammy1875
01-12-2011, 05:23 PM
National interest is hardly relevant to the question of fairness. Germany and Italy would have a right to feel aggrieved at potentially facing Spain or Holland whilst two weaker nations enjoy an easier draw.

Should UEFA go the whole hog and give the hosts dubious refereeing decisions for the same reason, like FIFA did in '34 and '02?

It might not be completely fair but everyone knew the rules, it's already unfair to see the playoffs to ensure the big countries make it. Let the small ones have there fun, they are hosting after all.

Greentinted
01-12-2011, 05:39 PM
National interest is hardly relevant to the question of fairness. Germany and Italy would have a right to feel aggrieved at potentially facing Spain or Holland whilst two weaker nations enjoy an easier draw.

Should UEFA go the whole hog and give the hosts dubious refereeing decisions for the same reason, like FIFA did in '34 and '02?


And indeed in 1960-bloody-6.

Kammy1875
01-12-2011, 05:42 PM
And indeed in 1960-bloody-6.

France 98 also :agree:

EdinCapitals
01-12-2011, 09:29 PM
Spain
Italy
Greece
ROI

Group of debt

SteveHFC
01-12-2011, 09:33 PM
Spain
Italy
Greece
ROI

Group of debt

:hilarious

AlbertK86
01-12-2011, 10:13 PM
Also on BBC 2 from 1645:aok:

And yes, here are the pots....

Pot 1: Spain, Netherlands, Poland*, Ukraine*.
Pot 2: Germany, Italy, England, Russia.
Pot 3: Croatia, Greece, Portugal, Sweden.
Pot 4: Denmark, France, Czech Republic, Republic of Ireland


Spain
England
Portugal
France

Sorry Wayne yiz'll be on yer way before you are allowed to get involved


GIRUY England

Spudster
02-12-2011, 09:46 AM
VC offering a group of debt special on the draw

"Ireland to be drawn in the same group as - Spain, Italy and Greece 55/1"

Is that not 4 X 4/1 bets (624/1)?

HibeeMG
02-12-2011, 09:51 AM
Is that not 4 X 4/1 bets (624/1)?

Is it not 3 x 3/1 bets? (64/1 then).

Still not good value though.

NOLA
02-12-2011, 09:58 AM
France 98 also :agree: what dubious refereeing went france's way like?

Craig_in_Prague
02-12-2011, 10:14 AM
Hoping Scotland ever qualify for finals is becoming almost as tiresome as the Scottish Cup for hibs......not quite, but getting there - as time goes on, it seems less and less likely.

and for the next world cup, we have a negative twonk in charge, so where's the 2016 Euros' ?....our next chance to qualify...

Cameron1875
02-12-2011, 10:18 AM
Hoping Scotland ever qualify for finals is becoming almost as tiresome as the Scottish Cup for hibs......not quite, but getting there - as time goes on, it seems less and less likely.and for the next world cup, we have a negative twonk in charge, so where's the 2016 Euros' ?....our next chance to qualify... France i think.

PeeJay
02-12-2011, 10:20 AM
Hoping Scotland ever qualify for finals is becoming almost as tiresome as the Scottish Cup for hibs......not quite, but getting there - as time goes on, it seems less and less likely.

and for the next world cup, we have a negative twonk in charge, so where's the 2016 Euros' ?....our next chance to qualify...

France it is and 24 teams will be involved in the groups stages - so maybe a chance for Scotland??

Craig_in_Prague
02-12-2011, 10:22 AM
France it is and 24 teams will be involved in the groups stages - so maybe a chance for Scotland??

So is that for 100%... the increased # of teams at they finals?

Surely we'd make that......... shirley.

Cameron1875
02-12-2011, 10:23 AM
Bloody like to think so. Imo we should have at least got to playoffs for 2012 as i think the czechs are a poor side. Hopefully england are out of euros before rooney gets back though!

PeeJay
02-12-2011, 10:24 AM
So is that for 100%... the increased # of teams at they finals?

Surely we'd make that......... shirley.

Yes and maybe...:greengrin

Craig_in_Prague
02-12-2011, 10:25 AM
Yes and maybe...:greengrin

haha :aok:

Mikey
02-12-2011, 04:44 PM
Here goes.

How long until they mention 1966................

BoltonHibee
02-12-2011, 05:08 PM
She is gorgeous...

alfieboi75
02-12-2011, 05:16 PM
Get on wiv the draw!!!!

:grr::grr:

SteveHFC
02-12-2011, 05:17 PM
Get on with the draw FFS!!!:grr::grr:

Mikey
02-12-2011, 05:25 PM
Someone waken me when.............. :zzzzz!:

BoltonHibee
02-12-2011, 05:26 PM
Introducing a match ball now, FFS

SteveHFC
02-12-2011, 05:28 PM
She is gorgeous...

:agree:

nonshinyfinish
02-12-2011, 05:32 PM
According to UEFA, the draw itself will start at 17:37:20 precisely.

They are mental...

EDIT: Anyone spot the chap in my avatar representing Czechoslovakia?

SteveHFC
02-12-2011, 05:32 PM
Finally :rolleyes:

hibiedude
02-12-2011, 05:35 PM
Good mention for Gary Speed :agree:

hibiedude
02-12-2011, 05:37 PM
Spain and England in the same group would be fun

hibbykeith
02-12-2011, 05:46 PM
Teams out so far

Group A

Poland , Czech Rep,

Group B

Holland, Denmark

Group C

Spain, Republic of Ireland,

Group D

Ukraine, France,

hibbykeith
02-12-2011, 05:48 PM
Group A

Poland , Czech Rep, Greece, Russia

Group B

Holland, Denmark, Portugal, Germany

Group C

Spain, Republic of Ireland, Croatia, Italy

Group D

Ukraine, France, Sweden, England


Draw now concluded

SteveHFC
02-12-2011, 05:57 PM
Group A

Poland , Czech Rep, Greece, Russia

Group B

Holland, Denmark, Portugal, Germany

Group C

Spain, Republic of Ireland, Croatia, Italy

Group D

Ukraine, France, Sweden, England


Draw now concluded

Tough group for Ireland but we can do it :aok:

hibbykeith
02-12-2011, 05:57 PM
England dodge a bullet with group C, no easy games at this stage, but group A and D are the so called easy groups.

HibeeMG
02-12-2011, 05:58 PM
Decent draw for England. Their base is in the Ukraine so it'll help for their travelling. It'll depend on which France turn up.

Horrible draw for the Republic.


Edit: My bad, England are basing themselves in Poland so not so good for them then. Shame.

Haymaker
02-12-2011, 06:07 PM
My bad, England are basing themselves in Poland so not so good for them then. Shame.

Good excuse, nice and early :devil:

hibbykeith
02-12-2011, 06:09 PM
Decent draw for England. Their base is in the Ukraine so it'll help for their travelling. It'll depend on which France turn up.

Horrible draw for the Republic.


Edit: My bad, England are basing themselves in Poland so not so good for them then. Shame.

I honestly dont think the travelling will effect the teams much, first class air travel with all the mod cons

Hainan Hibs
02-12-2011, 06:10 PM
Can't wait for Sky Sports to tell me who England are facing in the Quarter Finals, Semi Finals, and the Final itself:agree:

HibeeMG
02-12-2011, 06:21 PM
I honestly dont think the travelling will effect the teams much, first class air travel with all the mod cons

You're probably right but I'm sure they would've preferred to have done without a 2 hour flight to get to each game and back. As has been said, it'll be a ready made excuse for them.

greenlex
02-12-2011, 06:36 PM
Tough group for Ireland but we can do it :aok:

When did Dalkieth move to the Emerald isle ya bam?

Since90+2
02-12-2011, 07:00 PM
When did Dalkieth move to the Emerald isle ya bam?

Could it possibly be the case he was born in Ireland and now lives in Dalkeith? :dunno:

greenlex
02-12-2011, 07:01 PM
Could it possibly be the case he was born in Ireland and now lives in Dalkeith? :dunno:

No.:greengrin

Tha Cabbage Kid
02-12-2011, 07:13 PM
i think its an excellent draw for poland. think they have been lucky and looked like england have been given a good chance to react the final. spain vs england final maybe

Tha Cabbage Kid
02-12-2011, 07:15 PM
also if only we had qualified we quite possibly would have been in polands group.

but too many ifs in that sentance. :(

Hibernia Na Eir
02-12-2011, 07:20 PM
great draw for Eire! Let's face it, they ain't gonna go THAT far, so what quality games they have. Looking forward to watching their games next summer :)

IWasThere2016
02-12-2011, 10:16 PM
McGlashan was right!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj1Y7tLDUtw

One Day Soon
02-12-2011, 10:53 PM
McGlashan was right!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj1Y7tLDUtw

McGlashan has already posted in this thread. Very boringly

SteveHFC
02-12-2011, 11:20 PM
No.:greengrin

I'm supporting Ireland in Euro 2012 :greengrin

Haymaker
03-12-2011, 03:30 AM
i think its an excellent draw for poland. think they have been lucky and looked like england have been given a good chance to react the final. spain vs england final maybe

I reckon England will come 2nd in the group, surely playing Spain who will top group C?

Calvin
03-12-2011, 05:28 AM
McGlashan was right!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj1Y7tLDUtw

The video isn't working but I know what you mean and it's exactly what I thought of when I watched the draw!

greenlex
03-12-2011, 09:44 AM
I'm supporting Ireland in Euro 2012 :greengrin

:aok: so am I.:agree:

blackpoolhibs
03-12-2011, 09:47 AM
I'm supporting Ireland in Euro 2012 :greengrin

Personally its ABE as usual for me. :greengrin

Bohemian_Hibee
03-12-2011, 10:04 AM
great draw for Eire! Let's face it, they ain't gonna go THAT far, so what quality games they have. Looking forward to watching their games next summer :)

Yep, I would agree with that. We're a limited side, hard to beat for sure, and we're certainly not going to win the thing. But, it's just great to be there, we're the country with the smallest population and we're going to have one hell of a party there. Can't wait!

nonshinyfinish
03-12-2011, 10:27 AM
I'm going to the last quarter-final (runner-up from C v. winner from D) in Kiev, so probably Italy/Spain v. England/France. Not quite sure which match to hope for. :confused:

Hainan Hibs
03-12-2011, 10:28 AM
Personally its ABE as usual for me. :greengrin

Good idea for a t-shirt.

ABE on the front.

NO TEAM GB on the back.

Would be a best seller next summer:greengrin

One Day Soon
03-12-2011, 12:06 PM
Good idea for a t-shirt.

ABE on the front.

NO TEAM GB on the back.

Would be a best seller next summer:greengrin


You really are the Scottish cringe personified.

It's like the Yam claim about us being the Wee Team because we are allegedly obsessed with them. Except in the case of your obsessive anti-Englishness its true.

Have fun making your t-shirt.

hibiedude
03-12-2011, 12:22 PM
Going by sky sport news En gland has already qualified because it seems Sweden and France donít pose much of a challenge.

When are these Muppets going to learn- every tournament they qualify for the "media" have them in the final before a ball is kicked?

As some have said "ABE" sounds about right.