Calderwood (NOT) on Talksport at 11.15

[Chibs]

According to sickbag.

There is a link but unfortunatley I cannot post it as i am too dumb and old to work computers :confused:

[YehButNoBut]

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radioplayer/live/

:thumbsup:

[lapsedhibee]

Will he confess on air that he's been working his ticket since the summer? :dunno:

[iwasthere1972]

According to sickbag.

There is a link but unfortunatley I cannot post it as i am too dumb and old to work computers :confused:

Thanks einstein. Any relation to Agogo?

[Speedway]

Interviewer: We're expecting Colin Calderwood to join us on the phone any minute now, Colin, are you there?

CC: *Singing quietly* The sun has got his hat on, Hiphiphip Hooray, the boy has got his compo and the hibbies are all gay..

Int: COLIN?

CC: Oh, HELLO, how are ye doing big man?

Int: It's Sandra Bernhardt here..

CC: Aye that's whit a said.

Int: Colin, I imagine you're reeling from the events of the last 24 hours?

CC: Reelin'? I'm free wheelin'!!. Couldn't believe it took that long to get oot o'that ****hole. 23 months of severence to go with it. Whoo, with a capital, Hoo.

Int: I see, do you feel bad that it didn't work out at Hibs?

CC: nope.

Int: Ok, well, will you now be taking some time to reflect on your time at ER, weigh up your options and decide where your future lies?

CC: Will ah ****. Ah'm aff tae the Brum to join ma pal Chris. He's been trying to bust me oot o'****** road since he got the job likes.

Int: Chris Hughton will be appointing you his number two at Birmingham you say.

CC: Aye, a manager who actually gets the assistant he wanted, imagine that. Got to go, this face doesnae tan itself.

Interview ends...

[Hibbyradge]

Interviewer: We're expecting Colin Calderwood to join us on the phone any minute now, Colin, are you there?

CC: *Singing quietly* The sun has got his hat on, Hiphiphip Hooray, the boy has got his compo and the hibbies are all gay..

Int: COLIN?

CC: Oh, HELLO, how are ye doing big man?

Int: It's Sandra Bernhardt here..

CC: Aye that's whit a said.

Int: Colin, I imagine you're reeling from the events of the last 24 hours?

CC: Reelin'? I'm free wheelin'!!. Couldn't believe it took that long to get oot o'that ****hole. 23 months of severence to go with it. Whoo, with a capital, Hoo.

Int: I see, do you feel bad that it didn't work out at Hibs?

CC: nope.

Int: Ok, well, will you now be taking some time to reflect on your time at ER, weigh up your options and decide where your future lies?

CC: Will ah ****. Ah'm aff tae the Brum to join ma pal Chris. He's been trying to bust me oot o'****** road since he got the job likes.

Int: Chris Hughton will be appointing you his number two at Birmingham you say.

CC: Aye, a manager who actually gets the assistant he wanted, imagine that. Got to go, this face doesnae tan itself.

Interview ends...

Belter, speedo old chum!

This face doesnae tan itself! :faf: :top marks

[s.a.m]

Interviewer: We're expecting Colin Calderwood to join us on the phone any minute now, Colin, are you there?

CC: *Singing quietly* The sun has got his hat on, Hiphiphip Hooray, the boy has got his compo and the hibbies are all gay..

Int: COLIN?

CC: Oh, HELLO, how are ye doing big man?

Int: It's Sandra Bernhardt here..

CC: Aye that's whit a said.

Int: Colin, I imagine you're reeling from the events of the last 24 hours?

CC: Reelin'? I'm free wheelin'!!. Couldn't believe it took that long to get oot o'that ****hole. 23 months of severence to go with it. Whoo, with a capital, Hoo.

Int: I see, do you feel bad that it didn't work out at Hibs?

CC: nope.

Int: Ok, well, will you now be taking some time to reflect on your time at ER, weigh up your options and decide where your future lies?

CC: Will ah ****. Ah'm aff tae the Brum to join ma pal Chris. He's been trying to bust me oot o'****** road since he got the job likes.

Int: Chris Hughton will be appointing you his number two at Birmingham you say.

CC: Aye, a manager who actually gets the assistant he wanted, imagine that. Got to go, this face doesnae tan itself.

Interview ends...

:thumbsup:

Funny - yet probably a shocking acccurate reflection of his current state of mind!

[flash]

That was far too witty and articulate to sound even remotely genuine.
I expect my radio to bleed whenever CC starts one of his rambling monologues.

[Mikey]

Interview cancelled by the lawyers!

[lapsedhibee]

Gagged!

[Rosevillehibby]

interview off, apparently lawyers have got involved .......

[TrickyNicky]

Interviewer: We're expecting Colin Calderwood to join us on the phone any minute now, Colin, are you there?

CC: *Singing quietly* The sun has got his hat on, Hiphiphip Hooray, the boy has got his compo and the hibbies are all gay..

Int: COLIN?

CC: Oh, HELLO, how are ye doing big man?

Int: It's Sandra Bernhardt here..

CC: Aye that's whit a said.

Int: Colin, I imagine you're reeling from the events of the last 24 hours?

CC: Reelin'? I'm free wheelin'!!. Couldn't believe it took that long to get oot o'that ****hole. 23 months of severence to go with it. Whoo, with a capital, Hoo.

Int: I see, do you feel bad that it didn't work out at Hibs?

CC: nope.

Int: Ok, well, will you now be taking some time to reflect on your time at ER, weigh up your options and decide where your future lies?

CC: Will ah ****. Ah'm aff tae the Brum to join ma pal Chris. He's been trying to bust me oot o'****** road since he got the job likes.

Int: Chris Hughton will be appointing you his number two at Birmingham you say.

CC: Aye, a manager who actually gets the assistant he wanted, imagine that. Got to go, this face doesnae tan itself.

Interview ends...

:top marks

I think he'll be a completely different man in the interview, It will be like " Stars in your eyes "

" Tonight Mathew ah'm goannae be the lollipop man fae Chitty Chitty Banng Bang " !!

[hibee92]

Interviewer: We're expecting Colin Calderwood to join us on the phone any minute now, Colin, are you there?

CC: *Singing quietly* The sun has got his hat on, Hiphiphip Hooray, the boy has got his compo and the hibbies are all gay..

Int: COLIN?

CC: Oh, HELLO, how are ye doing big man?

Int: It's Sandra Bernhardt here..

CC: Aye that's whit a said.

Int: Colin, I imagine you're reeling from the events of the last 24 hours?

CC: Reelin'? I'm free wheelin'!!. Couldn't believe it took that long to get oot o'that ****hole. 23 months of severence to go with it. Whoo, with a capital, Hoo.

Int: I see, do you feel bad that it didn't work out at Hibs?

CC: nope.

Int: Ok, well, will you now be taking some time to reflect on your time at ER, weigh up your options and decide where your future lies?

CC: Will ah ****. Ah'm aff tae the Brum to join ma pal Chris. He's been trying to bust me oot o'****** road since he got the job likes.

Int: Chris Hughton will be appointing you his number two at Birmingham you say.

CC: Aye, a manager who actually gets the assistant he wanted, imagine that. Got to go, this face doesnae tan itself.

Interview ends...

:faf::top marks

[Delboy4]

Petrie's BLOCKED CC from talking out...! :confused:

[Beefster]

Another ex-manager who won't be allowed to give us an accurate picture of what goes on at ER. Bravo Rodders.

[Elephant Stone]

Whose lawyers?

[TrickyNicky]

interview off, apparently lawyers have got involved .......

Aye, sure they did, he deposited the upfront cash fir it usin phonebankin, then turned his phone tae voicemail - the guy thought he was actually oan the other end fir 15 minutes !

[J-C]

No matter who's lawyers, his win rate of 24% was the reason for his departure, what could he say to defend that.

[TrickyNicky]

Another ex-manager who won't be allowed to give us an accurate picture of what goes on at ER. Bravo Rodders.

Well, they want to have their photo taken whilst ****gin a donkey in Rod's office, only thumsels tae blame !!!

[Speedway]

Petrie's BLOCKED CC from talking out...! :confused:

Rather Vlad-ish wouldn't you say?

[Elephant Stone]

Petrie's BLOCKED CC from talking out...! :confused:

How do you know it was Petrie?

[Beefster]

How do you know it was Petrie?

It was obviously the club, unless you can think of anyone else's lawyers that would stop Calderwood giving an interview about getting binned by Hibs.

[Chibs]

I can only assume it must be Petries lawyers that have stopped this interview. Why?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Rather Vlad-ish wouldn't you say?

It is indeed. As is the number of managers we go through. We used to laugh at Hearts for sacking manager after manager – we’re not any better.

[Elephant Stone]

It was obviously the club, unless you can think of anyone else's lawyers that would stop Calderwood giving an interview about getting binned by Hibs.

His own? He could easily say something that would prejudice any claim he wants to make against Hibs, very easily.

[Chuck Rhoades]

Embarrasment our managers havent been allowed to speak out.

[matty_f]

Embarrasment our managers havent been allowed to speak out.

What if it was CC's own lawyer that's advised him not to talk about it?

[Chibs]

His own lawyers instructing him hot to speak to talksport ten minutes before broadcast mmm I suppose thats possible but I would think he would have talked to his lawyer after being dismssed and any interview
with the press would be ok.

I am not backing cc as I was as happy as when I heard he had gone but something stinks here.

everything will come out eventually and the truth will be told.

As you will have now realised I am one of these mad conspiracy theorists but hey ho back to the wine
and dream of the slow lingering demise of that bunch of crap from gorgie.

GGTTH

[Andy74]

Perhaps he hadn't read the detail that accompanied the agreement about him still get paid for being crap at his job.

Essentially he will still be on the payroll so Hibs entitled to not have a current employee publically airing grievances.

[Peevemor]

His own lawyers instructing him hot to speak to talksport ten minutes before broadcast mmm I suppose thats possible but I would think he would have talked to his lawyer after being dismssed and any interview
with the press would be ok.

I am not backing cc as I was as happy as when I heard he had gone but something stinks here.

everything will come out eventually and the truth will be told.

As you will have now realised I am one of these mad conspiracy theorists but hey ho back to the wine
and dream of the slow lingering demise of that bunch of crap from gorgie.

GGTTH

Except it was a Sunday. It's possible that CC was contacted for the interview yesterday, but he only ran it by his lawyer this morning.

[IWasThere2016]

Perhaps he hadn't read the detail that accompanied the agreement about him still get paid for being crap at his job.Essentially he will still be on the payroll so Hibs entitled to not have a current employee publically airing grievances.

That hasn't stopped A N Other :cool2: :wink:

[Andy74]

That hasn't stopped A N Other :cool2: :wink:

Give it a year, and maybe an attack in a bizarre statement from RP and we will see! :greengrin

[Hibercelona]

Interviewer: We're expecting Colin Calderwood to join us on the phone any minute now, Colin, are you there?

CC: *Singing quietly* The sun has got his hat on, Hiphiphip Hooray, the boy has got his compo and the hibbies are all gay..

Int: COLIN?

CC: Oh, HELLO, how are ye doing big man?

Int: It's Sandra Bernhardt here..

CC: Aye that's whit a said.

Int: Colin, I imagine you're reeling from the events of the last 24 hours?

CC: Reelin'? I'm free wheelin'!!. Couldn't believe it took that long to get oot o'that ****hole. 23 months of severence to go with it. Whoo, with a capital, Hoo.

Int: I see, do you feel bad that it didn't work out at Hibs?

CC: nope.

Int: Ok, well, will you now be taking some time to reflect on your time at ER, weigh up your options and decide where your future lies?

CC: Will ah ****. Ah'm aff tae the Brum to join ma pal Chris. He's been trying to bust me oot o'****** road since he got the job likes.

Int: Chris Hughton will be appointing you his number two at Birmingham you say.

CC: Aye, a manager who actually gets the assistant he wanted, imagine that. Got to go, this face doesnae tan itself.

Interview ends...

Brilliant!

He musn't have seen any point going through with it after you kindly posted it for us on here. :greengrin

[IWasThere2016]

Give it a year, and maybe an attack in a bizarre statement from RPand we will see! :greengrin

Have you read the accounts? There's a few in there ..

Only statement we need from Rodders is "I'm off"

[silverhibee]

Perhaps he hadn't read the detail that accompanied the agreement about him still get paid for being crap at his job.

Essentially he will still be on the payroll so Hibs entitled to not have a current employee publically airing grievances.


So when Hibs hire the new man, Hibs will be paying three managers. :rolleyes:

[Andy74]

So when Hibs hire the new man, Hibs will be paying three managers. :rolleyes:

Yes, probably.

[silverhibee]

Yes, probably.

Is that normal in the football buisness, and if they find another job do Hibs stop paying them. :aok:

[hibiedude]

Is that normal in the football buisness, and if they find another job do Hibs stop paying them. :aok:

lets see if Birmingham City boss Chris Hughton intends to continue his pursuit of Colin Calderwood

[Andy74]

Is that normal in the football buisness, and if they find another job do Hibs stop paying them. :aok:

I'd say it is and it's also normal to have some limitation that means the payments stop if they receive employment elsewhere.

I've often thoguh this is one of the reasons why some managers are quite happy not to take the step back down the ladder for a wee while. Why would they do themseleves out of a bigger wage until they have to?

Same happens with players geting contracts cancelled too.

[stokesmessiah]

Is that normal in the football buisness, and if they find another job do Hibs stop paying them. :aok:

My understanding was this was only applicable in the "mutual consent" cases?

I think he was sacked and will have got a one off compo agreement but would no longer carry on being on the payroll.

[WhileTheChief..]

It was Talksports' lawyers that cancelled it, not Hibs'.

Andy Gray and Richard Keys talked about not sure why they did it as there wasn't anything confrontational that they were going to ask CC. They then interviewed Steve Cowan instead and had a brief talk about Hibs.

[Andy74]

My understanding was this was only applicable in the "mutual consent" cases?

I think he was sacked and will have got a one off compo agreement but would no longer carry on being on the payroll.

There's really no difference in the terms. You may occassionally get a manager who might accept less if there is a discussion but unless you are being sacked for some breach of your contract or a disciplinary matter you are due what you would have received under the contract.

It's really only an accounting matter if that's a lump sum or carry on getting paid but it's easier to implement a cut off for a new job being taken if it is ongoing payments.

One of the accounting or tax people might be able to comment!

You do hear of some reasonable people that walk away and agree that the contract is just ripped up but not often.

[lapsedhibee]

You do hear of some reasonable people that walk away and agree that the contract is just ripped up but not often.

Gordon Strachan springs to mind. :wink:

[Caversham Green]

There's really no difference in the terms. You may occassionally get a manager who might accept less if there is a discussion but unless you are being sacked for some breach of your contract or a disciplinary matter you are due what you would have received under the contract.

It's really only an accounting matter if that's a lump sum or carry on getting paid but it's easier to implement a cut off for a new job being taken if it is ongoing payments.

One of the accounting or tax people might be able to comment!

You do hear of some reasonable people that walk away and agree that the contract is just ripped up but not often.

Something to remember is that compensation is paid for loss of income, so where the manager is taken off the payroll the amount payable would be his salary to the end of his contract net of tax and NI, probably payable as a lump sum. If he is kept on the payroll, the club would continue to pay his gross salary plus employer's NI. On the other hand if he gets another job during the term of his contract the payroll payments cease, but a lump sum payment would not be refundable. Given that CC was in demand four short months ago it seems likely that he will get another job fairly easily, so keeping him on the payroll would seem like the best idea. With hindsight, the best treatment for Yogi might have been a lump sum since he's still out of work one year on.


My guess on the relevant treatments is:

Manager resigns: (JC) No payment due

Mutual consent: (Mixu) A negotiated lump sum, less than the balance of the contract on the basis that the club no longer want the manager, but the manager no longer wants to work for the club either

Sacked (Yogi and CC) Either a lump sum equal to the balance of his contract (net of tax and NI) or continuing to pay his wages until he finds alternative employment. This might be negotiable downwards depending on the manager's attitude.

I would stress that I don't know this to be the case but it's my best guess based on what I do know about employment law in general.

[DH1875]

Not gonna happen but does that mean Rod could phone Yogi in the morning and tell him to get his **** into ER tomorrow as were still paying his wages :confused:.

[Beefster]

Something to remember is that compensation is paid for loss of income, so where the manager is taken off the payroll the amount payable would be his salary to the end of his contract net of tax and NI, probably payable as a lump sum. If he is kept on the payroll, the club would continue to pay his gross salary plus employer's NI. On the other hand if he gets another job during the term of his contract the payroll payments cease, but a lump sum payment would not be refundable. Given that CC was in demand four short months ago it seems likely that he will get another job fairly easily, so keeping him on the payroll would seem like the best idea. With hindsight, the best treatment for Yogi might have been a lump sum since he's still out of work one year on.


My guess on the relevant treatments is:

Manager resigns: (JC) No payment due

Mutual consent: (Mixu) A negotiated lump sum, less than the balance of the contract on the basis that the club no longer want the manager, but the manager no longer wants to work for the club either

Sacked (Yogi and CC) Either a lump sum equal to the balance of his contract (net of tax and NI) or continuing to pay his wages until he finds alternative employment. This might be negotiable downwards depending on the manager's attitude.

I would stress that I don't know this to be the case but it's my best guess based on what I do know about employment law in general.

Hughes was 'mutually consented' but is still on the payroll apparently. I'm sure that you're right with the various options though.