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Pretty Boy
06-11-2011, 08:14 AM
Currently in hospice care suffering with liver cancer.

Was involved in 3 iconic fights with Muhammad Ali. Wish him the very best.

CFC
06-11-2011, 10:32 AM
Me too. Not old enough to have seen any of his fights but wish him the very best. F,,k cancer.

H18sry
06-11-2011, 10:49 AM
Me too. Not old enough to have seen any of his fights but wish him the very best. F,,k cancer.

:top marks

Pretty Boy
08-11-2011, 07:51 AM
Unfortunately Smokin Joe lost his fight with cancer. Absolute **** of a disease.

RIP to a true heavyweight legend.

cabbageandribs1875
08-11-2011, 10:28 AM
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Dashing Bob S
08-11-2011, 10:35 PM
Sad to see. Frasier was a great fighter. It's strange that Ali has outlived him.

Pretty Boy
09-11-2011, 07:57 AM
Sad to see. Frasier was a great fighter. It's strange that Ali has outlived him.

I was discussing the Frazier -Ali rivalry last night and it was not only one of the most intense but also one of the most bizarre.

When Ali was an outcast due to his stance on Vietnam, Frazier supported him financially and by petitioning on his behalf to allow him to fight again. Ali thanked him by branding him a 'gorilla' and an 'uncle tom'. Their ring.battles are of course legendary but their legacies depend on each other. You ask anyone to name 3 Ali fights and I'd bet a hell of a lot would name the fight of the century and the thrilla in Manilla as 2 of the 3.

Although they claimed to be at peace with one another there was still an edge between both men until very recently. Frazier apparently took a morbid pleasure in the suffering of Ali and was quite proud of his part in it, Ali still held Frazier in contempt as a conformist. It was only about 2 or 3 years ago they finally called a truce.

In an age when boxing is now defined by 2 men who won't fight each other its easy to see why the likes of Frazier leave such a legacy. Him and Ali were desperate to tear each other apart and fought to near death on Manilla, neither man was the sane after that figh and both left a little part of themselves in that ring. Whilst Ali was the loudmouth, trash talking boxer, Frazier was the hard as nails brawler, he didn't have a lot of time for games or talking but did his talking with his fists. A man who will rightly be remembered as defining not only one of the great rivalries but also the golden era of heavyweight boxing.

marinello59
09-11-2011, 08:29 AM
I was discussing the Frazier -Ali rivalry last night and it was not only one of the most intense but also one of the most bizarre.

When Ali was an outcast due to his stance on Vietnam, Frazier supported him financially and by petitioning on his behalf to allow him to fight again. Ali thanked him by branding him a 'gorilla' and an 'uncle tom'. Their ring.battles are of course legendary but their legacies depend on each other. You ask anyone to name 3 Ali fights and I'd bet a hell of a lot would name the fight of the century and the thrilla in Manilla as 2 of the 3.

Although they claimed to be at peace with one another there was still an edge between both men until very recently. Frazier apparently took a morbid pleasure in the suffering of Ali and was quite proud of his part in it, Ali still held Frazier in contempt as a conformist. It was only about 2 or 3 years ago they finally called a truce.

In an age when boxing is now defined by 2 men who won't fight each other its easy to see why the likes of Frazier leave such a legacy. Him and Ali were desperate to tear each other apart and fought to near death on Manilla, neither man was the sane after that figh and both left a little part of themselves in that ring. Whilst Ali was the loudmouth, trash talking boxer, Frazier was the hard as nails brawler, he didn't have a lot of time for games or talking but did his talking with his fists. A man who will rightly be remembered as defining not only one of the great rivalries but also the golden era of heavyweight boxing.

Great post.

Sean1875
10-11-2011, 02:41 AM
Great post.
Seconded :top marks

Pete
15-11-2011, 04:11 AM
I was discussing the Frazier -Ali rivalry last night and it was not only one of the most intense but also one of the most bizarre.

When Ali was an outcast due to his stance on Vietnam, Frazier supported him financially and by petitioning on his behalf to allow him to fight again. Ali thanked him by branding him a 'gorilla' and an 'uncle tom'. Their ring.battles are of course legendary but their legacies depend on each other. You ask anyone to name 3 Ali fights and I'd bet a hell of a lot would name the fight of the century and the thrilla in Manilla as 2 of the 3.

Although they claimed to be at peace with one another there was still an edge between both men until very recently. Frazier apparently took a morbid pleasure in the suffering of Ali and was quite proud of his part in it, Ali still held Frazier in contempt as a conformist. It was only about 2 or 3 years ago they finally called a truce.

In an age when boxing is now defined by 2 men who won't fight each other its easy to see why the likes of Frazier leave such a legacy. Him and Ali were desperate to tear each other apart and fought to near death on Manilla, neither man was the sane after that figh and both left a little part of themselves in that ring. Whilst Ali was the loudmouth, trash talking boxer, Frazier was the hard as nails brawler, he didn't have a lot of time for games or talking but did his talking with his fists. A man who will rightly be remembered as defining not only one of the great rivalries but also the golden era of heavyweight boxing.

Found the words I was looking for about their last fight. totally agree.

I'm glad they never took it to the grave and it was nice to hear Ali's words and see him at the funeral.







"I figured that if I said it enough I would convince the world that I really was the greatest!"

I'm sure Mr Ali....but lots of people, not all white, think Joe was the greatest!