Liam Fox resigns.

[Hibbyradge]

Breaking news.

[Sylar]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15300751

Who didn't see this one coming? :rolleyes:

[Hibbyradge]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15300751

Who didn't see this one coming? :rolleyes:

David Cameron.

[Sylar]

Guess the view can't be too great from inside his own ass.

It was certainly blindingly obvious to the rest of the UK.

[steakbake]

There are further "allegations" to come out. About a dodgy charity.

[hibsbollah]

The spin is that he jumped, the probable truth is Gus O'donnell pushed him. One of the few tory big hitters gone.

[matty_f]

They (the Tories/Fox) really had no option. The whole story just got murkier and murkier. The Tories should really have made the point of sacking him, though. By allowing him to resign they look more like they're condoning what he has been alleged to have done IMHO.

[Hibs Class]

It's been inevitable for over a week now. However I expect he will be back on the front benches by the middle of 2013. Given the history of political sleaze, misconduct, etc. I think Fox deserves credit for finding a new angle upon which his career could falter.

[lapsedhibee]

Day after day after day after day, his friend called Werritty. He's here, he's there, he's every etc. Do we even know yet though whether he also has a friend called Dorothy? :dunno:

[heretoday]

Looking at the recent behaviour of Fox and Letwin as examples, it's quite amazing the contempt this lot have for the rest of us.

[Kato]

Looking at the recent behaviour of Fox and Letwin as examples, it's quite amazing the contempt this lot have for the rest of us.

I'm amazed anyone is amazed.

Bunch of toff gangsters.

[magpie1892]

I'm amazed anyone is amazed.

Bunch of toff gangsters.

I think it would be unfair to single out Tories as the sole miscreants, or indeed as toffs. I'm sure I read somewhere that more of Labour's shadow cabinet were privately educated than their Tory counterparts? The disconnection between the political class and the electorate (and the disgust with which the 'powers that be' seem to regard their employers) exists right across the board, regardless of stripe.

[Jonnyboy]

The spin is that he jumped, the probable truth is Gus O'donnell pushed him. One of the few tory big hitters gone.

I reckon you've hit the nail very firmly on the head there :agree:

Who fancies starting a book with odds on who the third person will be?

Person one - "He's done a great job and assures me there is nothing hidden that could embarrass the party" - Call me Dave re Andy Coulson

Person two - "He's done a great job and assures me there is nothing hidden that could embarrass the party" - Call me Dave re Liam Fox

[McHibby]

They (the Tories/Fox) really had no option. The whole story just got murkier and murkier. The Tories should really have made the point of sacking him, though. By allowing him to resign they look more like they're condoning what he has been alleged to have done IMHO.

Totally agree. By not sacking him, or at the very least referring to the independent person who investigates potential breaches of ministerial code, Cameron looks like he doesn't care what his ministers are up to and was quietly hoping it would all blow over so he could keep his pal in the cabinet. I do get his argument that he can't be seen to be dictated to by the press, but it was obvious Fox was up to his neck in it. I would imagine the Sunday papers might have a few other tit-bits about Fox and his chum.

[hibsbollah]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-foxs-best-man-and-his-ties-to-irans-opposition-2371352.html

Indy on Sunday reporting Werrity was working on CIA/Mossad's behalf in Iran. Incredible.

[magpie1892]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-foxs-best-man-and-his-ties-to-irans-opposition-2371352.html

Indy on Sunday reporting Werrity was working on CIA/Mossad's behalf in Iran. Incredible.

Many, many people believe (with some justification, IMHO, especially in the context of the Iraq invasion) that Tony Blair worked for the CIA. Incredible.

[lucky]

Many, many people believe (with some justification, IMHO, especially in the context of the Iraq invasion) that Tony Blair worked for the CIA. Incredible.

Absolute rubbish. Yet again. Your anti labour posts are boring

[hibsbollah]

Many, many people believe (with some justification, IMHO, especially in the context of the Iraq invasion) that Tony Blair worked for the CIA. Incredible. Whats your point? Ever?

[Twa Cairpets]

Many, many people believe (with some justification, IMHO, especially in the context of the Iraq invasion) that Tony Blair worked for the CIA. Incredible.

Who believes this? And with what justification? Do you believe this - I can't work out if the "incredible" is about Fox, Blair or the thought Blair worked for them.

Wasn't this the plot of a novel by Robert Harris?

[Big Ed]

Liam Fox was influenced, not by the UK Government to whom he was elected, but by numerous shady, self-interested businessmen and organisations who have absolutely no interest in his responsibilities to the citizens of the UK. Fundamentally, his contempt for these citizens has been laid bare for all to see since about Tuesday. Never mind a move to the back benches; the Tower of London would be more appropriate.
It also says much about Cameron that he let this farce play out for days afterwards. He showed all the vision and courage of a Hearts Supporters Protest Delegation; hoping that if he shut his eyes really tight, it would all be alright.
It is clear now that the press have got several leads on this story and the real keech just might hit the fan over the next few days.

[magpie1892]

Who believes this? And with what justification? Do you believe this - I can't work out if the "incredible" is about Fox, Blair or the thought Blair worked for them.

Wasn't this the plot of a novel by Robert Harris?

It was. Not really sure what to believe, it's murky.

The 'tories are ****' flavour that a lot of posters have on here is boring and childish - and not at all objective. The failure to notice that all of the mainstream parties are riven with inadequates is inexplicable.

[Twa Cairpets]

It was. Not really sure what to believe, it's murky.

The 'tories are ****' flavour that a lot of posters have on here is boring and childish - and not at all objective. The failure to notice that all of the mainstream parties are riven with inadequates is inexplicable.

So do you believe Tony Blair was in the employ of the CIA? Thats a bit of a step away from claiming that some politicians maybe a tad self-serving?

Also, you cant justify the Tories sleaze on the basis that other parties have sleaze too. it doesnt forgive it or excuse it you know.

[Big Ed]

Last week we were told that Cameron was waiting on Gus O’Donnell’s report before deciding Fox’s fate.
Is this some kind of sick joke?
A pamphlet containing a mere 2700 words which stated that there was a "clear breach" of the ministerial code but he [Fox] did not benefit financially.
It couldn’t have taken more than a couple of hours to read the papers last week and then knock up a piece with a couple of “judgements.”
No matter which political party you support; the events leading up to Fox’s resignation, and now this whitewash, merely confirm that there exists, in our political hierarchy, nothing but contempt for our parliamentary system and by definition; the British public.

[Kato]

I think it would be unfair to single out Tories as the sole miscreants, or indeed as toffs. I'm sure I read somewhere that more of Labour's shadow cabinet were privately educated than their Tory counterparts? The disconnection between the political class and the electorate (and the disgust with which the 'powers that be' seem to regard their employers) exists right across the board, regardless of stripe.


I never mentioned Tories or Labour and I certainly never "singled out" a Tory.

I singled out an individual.

Sadly a lot of individuals, from whatever party (I don't support any of them), see Westminster as a foot in the door for their own ambitions.