Scotland and qualifying

[Hibee87]

Can anyone advise all the scenarios for the internationals?

I know the czech's play Spain and lithuania and we play lichenstein and spain,


If we do manage to finish second do we still need to get a ceratain amount of points to guarentee the play off places or is just coming second enough?

[Andy74]

Can anyone advise all the scenarios for the internationals?

I know the czech's play Spain and lithuania and we play lichenstein and spain,


If we do manage to finish second do we still need to get a ceratain amount of points to guarentee the play off places or is just coming second enough?

We're not qualifying. Wouldn't worry about the scenarios.

[Hibee87]

Maybe not but still want to know the scenarios, im guessing its the top 8 teams in second place but what about the groups with only 5 in it? how is it all worked out. Im more looking at it as if we will beat lichenstein and spain beat the czech's then what would happen if we get beat from spain (which is without a doubt what will happen) and if lith beat the czech's (which I know is very unlikely) but if it did happen like that are we in the play offs or is there other teams we need to relly on etc? Serious answers please (aye, you andy :wink:)

[SteveHFC]

On the next matchday (7–8 October):

Czech Republic will secure a play-off spot (and Scotland will be eliminated) if:

they defeat Spain AND Scotland fail to defeat Liechtenstein, OR
they draw with Spain AND Scotland lose to Liechtenstein.

[Golden Bear]

When does the game kick off on Saturday?

[SteveHFC]

When does the game kick off on Saturday?

6.30pm

[Hibee87]

On the next matchday (7–8 October):

Czech Republic will secure a play-off spot (and Scotland will be eliminated) if:

they defeat Spain AND Scotland fail to defeat Liechtenstein, OR
they draw with Spain AND Scotland lose to Liechtenstein.



cool so in theory what I have said is true then if we win and lose and they lose lose 11 points is enough to Guarente a play off sport?

(we might even manage to get a draw in spain if leven has been perfecting his 6-5 formation :greengrin):devil:

[littleplum]

Maybe not but still want to know the scenarios, im guessing its the top 8 teams in second place but what about the groups with only 5 in it? how is it all worked out. Im more looking at it as if we will beat lichenstein and spain beat the czech's then what would happen if we get beat from spain (which is without a doubt what will happen) and if lith beat the czech's (which I know is very unlikely) but if it did happen like that are we in the play offs or is there other teams we need to relly on etc? Serious answers please (aye, you andy :wink:)

From the BBC site:

"Hosts Poland and Ukraine qualify automatically. All nine group winners qualify. The second-placed team with the highest number of points from matches against the first, third, fourth and fifth placed teams also qualifies. The eight remaining second-placed teams will take part in two-legged play-offs to decide the four remaining qualifiers."

[Golden Bear]

6.30pm

:aok:

I'll be able to fit the gowf in, have a few bevvies then settle doon to watch the game (or maybe fall asleep:rolleyes:)

[brog]

The most likely scenario is that because of HP's childishness we play against Lickyspit with no strikers & this time the game only lasts 95 minutes thereby ensuring we don't win ( & therefore qualify ). We then beat Spain away & maintain our 100% record of heroic failure!
Seriously, we have zero chance of qualifying, don't worry about the various scenarios.

[Hibs7]

Who cares, the SFA don't deserve to have a Scotland team qualifying, bunch of inbred ar$ehole$ run by the west coast mafia.

[JimBHibees]

Maybe not but still want to know the scenarios, im guessing its the top 8 teams in second place but what about the groups with only 5 in it? how is it all worked out. Im more looking at it as if we will beat lichenstein and spain beat the czech's then what would happen if we get beat from spain (which is without a doubt what will happen) and if lith beat the czech's (which I know is very unlikely) but if it did happen like that are we in the play offs or is there other teams we need to relly on etc? Serious answers please (aye, you andy :wink:)

In your scenario of Scotland beating Liechtenstein and Spain and Lithuania beating Czech then Scotland would be in a playoff even if they lost to Spain. There are 9 groups, 1 qualifies as best second place the other 8 play off against each other.

I see Darren Fletcher is doubtful for both games because of Tonsillitis which is a shame.

[HibsMax]

Stranger things have happened. All Scotland has to concern itself with is winning their last two games. Beating Spain in Spain is not impossible. It's highly improbably but not impossible. Keep the faith!!

[MacBean]

Fixtures (that matter)
Friday:
Czech Republic v Spain
Saturday:
Scotland v Liechtenstein

Tuesday:
Spain v Scotland
Lithuania v Czech Republic


Scenarios:

Czech's win on Friday, Scotland need to win against Liechtenstein and Spain, and hope that Lithuania beat Czech's on last day.

Czech's draw on Friday, Scotland win on Saturday, Scotland need to better Czech's result on last day.

Spain win v Czech's on Friday, Scotland win on Saturday, Scotland need to MATCH Czech's result on last day

Then we'd go into the playoff phase
SIMPLES!

P.s. for those who have no spirit for the national team, keep it to yourselves, there are some of us here who love our country, regardless of the West's media influence.

[Hibs7]

Ps. I am allowed my opinion whether you like it or not.

[MacBean]

Ps. I am allowed my opinion whether you like it or not.

fair enough, but is there really a need in a comment like this?


Who cares, the SFA don't deserve to have a Scotland team qualifying, bunch of inbred ar$ehole$ run by the west coast mafia.

erse

[H18sry]

Who cares, the SFA don't deserve to have a Scotland team qualifying, bunch of inbred ar$ehole$ run by the west coast mafia.

All the Scotland fan's care, and I bet most of them hate the way the team is run also. :agree:

[Hibs7]

Every one is entitled to their opinion whether you think they are an erse or not, shows how immature you are, is it any wonder decent supporters rarely post on boards like this. It is a free society, at least it was the last time I looked, I know who is the ER$e.

[MacBean]

Every one is entitled to their opinion whether you think they are an erse or not, shows how immature you are, is it any wonder decent supporters rarely post on boards like this. It is a free society, at least it was the last time I looked, I know who is the ER$e.

Agree with you here, Ive been avoiding posting on here as responses are a nightmare.

You have to look at yourself though as you are the culprit. This is a thread where people are discussing Scotland's qualification chances, a positive thread, yet you've come on and turned it on its head with a volatile post...

Immature? read your first post, and compare it to mine? I'm not the erse, I made a simple comment asking those (in this case you) who didnt care for our national team, to take it elsewhere.... :bye:

[Mikey]

Every one is entitled to their opinion whether you think they are an erse or not, shows how immature you are, is it any wonder decent supporters rarely post on boards like this. It is a free society, at least it was the last time I looked, I know who is the ER$e.

There are a fair number of "decent supporters" on this thread, but one person is standing out as perhaps being something different.

Can you see who that is?

[Hibs7]

Well ban me, I support Hibs and not an old firm Scotland team run by idiots and managed by a clown, it may not bother you but you can stick this web site up your erse, free speech? Not on this site, jeez it just gets worse.

[Mikey]

you can stick this web site up your erse, free speech? Not on this site, jeez it just gets worse.

:na na:

[Hibs7]

Typical childish reaction mikey.

[Mikey]

Typical childish reaction mikey.

I know what you're doing :wink:

[Hibs7]

You are an admin, supposedly !
Time you acted like a grown up one.

[Mikey]

You are an admin, supposedly !
Time you acted like a grown up one.

It's the oldest trick in the book. Cause a fuss, throw a strop and act all innocent :greengrin

I take it you're back on here because your new home is so quiet :wink:

[Hibs7]

Ha ha, such a grown up comment, do you post on the Scotsman football stories as well, back on here?, probably been register on here longer than you.
Keep up the attempted insults you are just proving why people are leaving this site.

[BroxburnHibee]

Ha ha, such a grown up comment, do you post on the Scotsman football stories as well, back on here?, probably been register on here longer than you.
Keep up the attempted insults you are just proving why people are leaving this site.

Seems to me you are deliberately trying to provoke a response (ie. a banning) from Mikey or this site.

Been a few of you trying that lately - I wonder why?

People leaving this site? Aye alright then :bye:

[Mikey]

Ha ha, such a grown up comment, do you post on the Scotsman football stories as well, back on here?, probably been register on here longer than you.
Keep up the attempted insults you are just proving why people are leaving this site.

There are 1526 users online just now and 1525 of them want to talk about Hibs, and in some cases Scotland. 1 user is being worked from behind by his mates.

:wink:

[BroxburnHibee]

There are 1526 users online just now and 1525 of them want to talk about Hibs, and in some cases Scotland. 1 user is being worked from behind by his mates.

:wink:

Exactly - pathetic that some former posters on here just cant grow up.

[Mikey]

Can anyone advise all the scenarios for the internationals?

I know the czech's play Spain and lithuania and we play lichenstein and spain,


If we do manage to finish second do we still need to get a ceratain amount of points to guarentee the play off places or is just coming second enough?

Sorry that this has been taken off topic a bit by someone. Feel free to continue :greengrin

[Hibs7]

If I was trying to provoke anyone it would be a lot worse, just ask any admin how many paying members they have gained in the last 3 years. My guess is it has gone down.
Anyway betters things to do than play silly games with petulant admins. Bye for good, another one gone.

[Mikey]

If I was trying to provoke anyone it would be a lot worse, just ask any admin how many paying members they have gained in the last 3 years. My guess is it has gone down.
Anyway betters things to do than play silly games with petulant admins. Bye for good, another one gone.

1525 :greengrin

[BroxburnHibee]

If I was trying to provoke anyone it would be a lot worse, just ask any admin how many paying members they have gained in the last 3 years. My guess is it has gone down.
Anyway betters things to do than play silly games with petulant admins. Bye for good, another one gone.

:hilarious

[Mikey]

Anyway, what was that about qualification? :greengrin

[NOLA]

scotland wont qualify its as simple as that, shame for the fans as with every tourney we fail to qualify for it gets harder.

[Andy74]

Weird.

[Hibee87]

Sorry that this has been taken off topic a bit by someone. Feel free to continue :greengrin Haha no need to appologise my questions been answered and iv had a good chuckle at some peoples biterness. Infact scratch that yous have ruined my thread and these boards. Good bye for good 1524

[Zazu62]

We blew it in Prague and in Lithuania

[essexhibee]

I'm going to Spain and cant wait....gotta beat world and European champions in their back yard. No biggie.

[MacBean]

I'm going to Spain and cant wait....gotta beat world and European champions in their back yard. No biggie.

see ya there! :aok:

9 of us staying Alicante Hills Sunday - Wednesday. Missing Leichtenstein due to lack of holidays/cash

[edinburghhibee]

Come on Scotland for once in my life don't give us the heroic failure feeling, love watching the Scotland games in a full Hampden when the place is rocking, I believe the current crop of players are good enough to go to a major championship however I think this one is just too early for them... I'll be delighted to be proved wrong though.

[Bob1875]

What's with people saying we have no chance of qualifying etc.. Now fwiw I reckon the Czechs might get something from Spain on Friday but it's hardly a long shot that Spain might turn them over, then they need to goto Kaunus, to play a team that turned them over in Prague? Again, hardly a forgone
conclusion. Although knowing Scotland, Czechs will probably get 0 points from the games then Scotland will do exactly the same. If that happens then Levein must be sacked.

[erin go bragh]

Maybe not but still want to know the scenarios, im guessing its the top 8 teams in second place but what about the groups with only 5 in it? how is it all worked out. Im more looking at it as if we will beat lichenstein and spain beat the czech's then what would happen if we get beat from spain (which is without a doubt what will happen) and if lith beat the czech's (which I know is very unlikely) but if it did happen like that are we in the play offs or is there other teams we need to relly on etc? Serious answers please (aye, you andy :wink:)

If we beat Liechtenstein and the Czech rep lose against Spain and Lithuania , we would finnish second .
But if the Czech`s get a point out of the two games, we would need to win our last two to get second.
If the Czech`s get 3pts , were donald ducked .


GGTTH

[Hibee87]

If we beat Liechtenstein and the Czech rep lose against Spain and Lithuania , we would finnish second .
But if the Czech`s get a point out of the two games, we would need to win our last two to get second.
If the Czech`s get 3pts , were donald ducked .


GGTTH

How is second place worked out if were both on same points? is it goal difference or head to head record?

Im guessing if we win v lich 2-0 and they lose to spain 3 - 0 we will be in second and if we get beat form spain but they drew 0-0 we would have 1 more goal diff so would that matter? :confused:

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

If we finish on the same points they would be 2nd as they took 4 pts from our games.

[calumhibee1]

Right so all second place teams go into a playoff, nobody misses out this time? Except the one team which automatically qualifies.. which i'm presuming can't be Scotland?

[Nando™]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_2012_Qualifiers#Ranking_of_second-placed_teams

This explains how 2nd place is decided if we finish on the same points as the Czechs and also which 2nd placed team qualifies automatically.

[HibsMax]

What a strange turn this thread took!

I don't understand people who don't want their national team to win. Or people who want Hibs to lose games so that CC is punted.

Just before the Red Sox finished shooting themselves in their collective feet there were people in the club that I go to regularly who were saying they hoped the Sox would miss the playoffs because they don't deserve to be there. What a load of crap. Even if you stumble through a campaign and limp in to victory, it's still deserved (officiating fiascos aside).

I want Scotland to qualify and until they are ruled out mathematically I will still believe that they can. I would rather go through life with hope then despair. If we don't make it, I won't be reaching for the pill bottle. I'll just be counting the days til the WC campaign starts. :)

[Gus]

Scotland and qualifying for a major tournament :faf:





















:devil:

I actually would like to see them qualify for a WC/Euro's fwiw