Irish Rebel songs

[yeezus.]

Been going to Easter Road for a few years now and I don't think I've ever herd Irish rebel music. Certainly not the way Celtic fans sing it.

Just wondering, does any on here listen to it? I went to a Wolfe Tones concert in Aberdeen and there was a whole load of Septic fans but 1 or 2 Hibs fans.

I know this sort of religious/political divide is normally left for the west coast but I just wondered if anyone here likes some of the music.

Also, I could swear some jambo's were singing the Billy Boys on Sunday.

[Lofarl]

Hibs fans dont sing Irish terrorist loving/ rebel songs, a few idiots may well do but I literally mean a few. Hearts fans do enjoy belting out the Billy Boys from time to time. But to be fair to Hearts having banned their fans from bringing in Red hand flags, the singing of it has reduced I think.

[Sylar]

In a word, "no".

I'd quite happily see all of the folks who regularly sing this nonsense at the Septic games being rounded up, dropped into Parkhead with the doors locked, and blow the place to hell.

[yeezus.]

In a word, "no".

I'd quite happily see all of the folks who regularly sing this nonsense at the Septic games being rounded up, dropped into Parkhead with the doors locked, and blow the place to hell.

So you wouldn't agree with the Republican view of a United Ireland? Or a free Scotland?

[CropleyWasGod]

So you wouldn't agree with the Republican view of a United Ireland? Or a free Scotland?

That's not really the point, though, is it.

One might have particular political views, even extreme ones. A football match, however, is not the place to sing about them.

[Lucius Apuleius]

I do still listen to it. As well as Scottish folk music. I happen to like the music. I also believe in republicanism and would love a free Scottish Republic. Not for singing it at football matches though. No reason anymore. Old days I did enjoy a rendition of Sean South though :greengrin

[Antifa Hibs]

Always amazes me that the people who are the most mouthy about this subject are probably the most clueless on Rebel songs and Irish Republicanism at the same time.

I want every Scotsman in Hampden to be locked in and blown up when they belt out Flower of Scotland. Cos hey thats a song of an rebellious nature and could be deemed offensive :rolleyes:

[Betty Boop]

My Nana used to listen to Rebel songs, every Saturday,The Dubliners, Clancy Brothers, Kathleen Largey and many others, great memories. Boolavogue is a particular favourite of mine, brilliant. :greengrin

[CropleyWasGod]

Always amazes me that the people who are the most mouthy about this subject are probably the most clueless on Rebel songs and Irish Republicanism at the same time.

I want every Scotsman in Hampden to be locked in and blown up when they belt out Flower of Scotland. Cos hey thats a song of an rebellious nature and could be deemed offensive :rolleyes:

... even the ones that don't, or won't, sing it?

[blaikie]

My Nana used to listen to Rebel songs, every Saturday,The Dubliners, Clancy Brothers, Kathleen Largey and many others, great memories. Boolavogue is a particular favourite of mine, brilliant. :greengrinIrish folk music has always been there in my family as well, I'll admit i have the merry ploughboy on my ipod and a few other songs ive heard growing up from both my grand parents and father. Id never ram it down someones throat as its not to everybodys taste.

[Sir David Gray]

The day I hear Irish rebel songs being played at Easter Road or being sung by Hibs fans is the day I'll be packing it all in and finding something else to do on a Saturday.

If that's what you're into then that's absolutely fine. But a matchday at Easter Road Stadium isn't the time or the place to belt those songs out. It's divisive, completely irrelevant to Hibernian FC in 2011 and has absolutely nothing to do with football or Scotland.

That's a no from me.

[yeezus.]

The day I hear Irish rebel songs being played at Easter Road or being sung by Hibs fans is the day I'll be packing it all in and finding something else to do on a Saturday.

If that's what you're into then that's absolutely fine. But a matchday at Easter Road Stadium isn't the time or the place to belt those songs out. It's divisive, completely irrelevant to Hibernian FC in 2011 and has absolutely nothing to do with football or Scotland.

That's a no from me.

I quite agree, part of the reason I started supporting Hibs was to get away from the old firm nonsense. Most of my friends and people I know support 1 or the other.

I like rebel music but I wouldn't like to be part of a club that sand them every Saturday.

[lyonhibs]

As this thread is only on The Dugout, I'll estimate only 8 pages

:worms:

[NOLA]

quite like some wolfe tones and dubliners stuff, charlie and the bhoys not so keen on:greengrin

[Hillsidehibby]

Well I'm one of the "older generation" and rebel songs used to get sung quite a lot.

Not condoning it before I get both barrell's !

[cocopops1875]

I like the Wolfe tones saw them about a year back at cab vol, good gig decent mention for the home town hibernian support don't imagine Charlie and the bhoys being so Edinburgh savvy. Would not dream of us singing any of their songs at easter road however

[Andy74]

I like quite a lot of it.

There isn't half some misinformed rubbish gets knocked about on this though as soon as its mentioned!

Having some sympathy or affinity for people striving for freedom in their own country doesn't equate to backing terrorism and its good traditional music.

Agree that it has zero relevance to football or to everyday life in Scotland for most people!

[.Sean.]

One of my best mates, also a poster on here, is right into it. I think it's a pile of steaming .

[HibeeMcGinn1]

Been to see Wolfetones twice and going again in November and going to see Charlie and the Bhoys on Saturday. Love it :na na:

[HibeeMcGinn1]

I like quite a lot of it.

There isn't half some misinformed rubbish gets knocked about on this though as soon as its mentioned!

Having some sympathy or affinity for people striving for freedom in their own country doesn't equate to backing terrorism and its good traditional music.
Agree that it has zero relevance to football or to everyday life in Scotland for most people!

:top marks

[Dinkydoo]

I know a lot of folk from Dumfries (Celtic fans) who frequently go through to Dalbeattie to see Charlie and the Bhoys, have a good old piss up and sing about things they don't generally have a clue about for no reason at all.

Have to agree with .Sean and Falkirk here, load of ****ing ***** if you ask me.

[Carheenlea]

quite like some wolfe tones and dubliners stuff, charlie and the bhoys not so keen on:greengrin


The Dubliners stopped including rebel songs in their set as The Troubles kicked off, and Ronnie Drew in particular went out his way to distance himself and the band from it.

The Dubliners, legends like Ronnie Drew, Luke Kelly, Barney McKenna should never be mentioned in the same breath with the likes of The Wolfetones and Charlie and the Bhoys, dinasaurs who are long past their sell-by date and are far more popular in the West of Scotland with Scots than they are with the Irish in Ireland. My in-laws stay near Athenry, and The Wolfetones were playing a small hotel there in August when I was over, and tickets were plentiful (going by the shoddy billposters that kept appearing in greater volume as the gig approached). Put them on at The Barrowland Ballroom and it`s Take That style hysteria..!

[yeezus.]

The Dubliners stopped including rebel songs in their set as The Troubles kicked off, and Ronnie Drew in particular went out his way to distance himself and the band from it.

The Dubliners, legends like Ronnie Drew, Luke Kelly, Barney McKenna should never be mentioned in the same breath with the likes of The Wolfetones and Charlie and the Bhoys, dinasaurs who are long past their sell-by date and are far more popular in the West of Scotland with Scots than they are with the Irish in Ireland. My in-laws stay near Athenry, and The Wolfetones were playing a small hotel there in August when I was over, and tickets were plentiful (going by the shoddy billposters that kept appearing in greater volume as the gig approached). Put them on at The Barrowland Ballroom and it`s Take That style hysteria..!

Yeah, the political side of the Tones is now irrelevant.

I still listen to them, and ultimately support a United Ireland, but it should be kept well clear of the football ground.

[offshorehibby]

Love a bit of rebel music to death and it's nothing to do with religion as i was christened a prod. seen the Tonnes a few times now always a great night.

I do recall a period in the 70's when you'd get an odd rebel tune sung on the terracing at ER.

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Always amazes me that the people who are the most mouthy about this subject are probably the most clueless on Rebel songs and Irish Republicanism at the same time.

I want every Scotsman in Hampden to be locked in and blown up when they belt out Flower of Scotland. Cos hey thats a song of an rebellious nature and could be deemed offensive :rolleyes:



Actually, it's a dirge.

Can't see what relevance Irish Republican songs have to Scotland.

Or to Hibs, for that matter.

Not awfully fond of folk music in general, tbh.

[Hibrandenburg]

Actually, it's a dirge.

Can't see what relevance Irish Republican songs have to Scotland.

Or to Hibs, for that matter.

Not awfully fond of folk music in general, tbh.

Apart from the fact that they'd like us to hear them. After all we Scottish did play a large part in turning the Irish into MOPEs.

[yeezus.]

Actually, it's a dirge.

Can't see what relevance Irish Republican songs have to Scotland.

Or to Hibs, for that matter.

Not awfully fond of folk music in general, tbh.

They may be relevant to Hibernian FC, songs of James Connolly and others.

Should NOT be sung at a football game though, reading about Pat Niven being driven away from Celtic park by IRA chants.

[Dunbar Hibee]

Yes, I do. I love it. Would never ever bring it into football though.

[Dashing Bob S]

Quite like some of the older songs, stirring ballads of freedom etc etc. But I agree that they have no place at a Scottish football match and no other function than to fuel sectarian tensions.

I've watched the Wolfetones over the years move from being a band of principled republicanism, to now, in the post-troubles era, a bunch of decrepit minstrels for the unapologetic real/continuity etc IRA wing of the Smeltic supporters club. A sad sight to see a band of talented musicians prostituting themselves and singing for their supper in front of a bunch of rabid, bigoted knuckle-dragging tramps with chips on their shoulders.

[vincipernoi]

don't want to broadcast my ignorance but what is a MOPE?

[joe breezy]

Have a few friends who seem to like this kinda stuff, no my scene, I know the UVF songs better myself, just through school, but hate all of it.

Like Rabbie Burns folk wise...

I do like history though and songs can help communicate that...

[Hibrandenburg]

don't want to broadcast my ignorance but what is a MOPE?

Most Oppressed People Ever.