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Hibhibhooray
21-08-2011, 08:19 AM
Just saw on the BBC that 'Red 4' Flt Lt Jon Egging lost his life yesterday after a display at Bournmouth. Saw them a few times this year and the most memorable being over Ocean Terminal earlier in the year.

These guys have remarkable skill and talent and our thoughts are with his family & colleagues at this sad time.

Hibs Class
21-08-2011, 08:22 AM
They are amazing. A very sad loss.

dutchhibby
21-08-2011, 09:19 AM
great to watch them too

Scouse Hibee
21-08-2011, 10:11 AM
A terrible tragedy, I believe his wife was present and actually watching the display when his plane went down.

cabbageandribs1875
21-08-2011, 10:16 AM
i've watched this video footage of the crash several times, and each time i dont understand why he didn't have time to eject, unless of course it was mechanical failure http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14603644

Scouse Hibee
21-08-2011, 10:39 AM
i've watched this video footage of the crash several times, and each time i dont understand why he didn't have time to eject, unless of course it was mechanical failure http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14603644

Yeah I thought the same and wondered if something had happened to the pilot that caused him to crash. Yet it appeared that he flew away from populated area so probably mechanical.

cabbageandribs1875
21-08-2011, 11:58 AM
Yeah I thought the same and wondered if something had happened to the pilot that caused him to crash. Yet it appeared that he flew away from populated area so probably mechanical.


just noticed this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14605914

Dorset Police said Flt Lt Egging, known as 'Eggman', was thrown from the aircraft and was pronounced dead at the scene.

n (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14605914)ot quite clear what it means though

Hibs Class
21-08-2011, 02:43 PM
just noticed this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14605914

Dorset Police said Flt Lt Egging, known as 'Eggman', was thrown from the aircraft and was pronounced dead at the scene.

n (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14605914)ot quite clear what it means though

From the way it was reported on the TV news last night I took that to mean he was in his plane when it hit the ground and was thrown clear on impact. There was also a suggestion that he may have not ejected earlier because he was steering his plane away from houses or people, although that sounded more like speculation than something definite.

Scouse Hibee
21-08-2011, 09:09 PM
just noticed this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14605914

Dorset Police said Flt Lt Egging, known as 'Eggman', was thrown from the aircraft and was pronounced dead at the scene.

n (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14605914)ot quite clear what it means though


Have since read that he did attempt to eject but was too late, I wonder is this is because he steeered the plane away from populated area before attempting to eject.

RyeSloan
22-08-2011, 11:40 AM
Have since read that he did attempt to eject but was too late, I wonder is this is because he steeered the plane away from populated area before attempting to eject.

That is the story being told...I assume he didn't kill himself on purpose so he must have felt the need to to try and control the plane right until the last second before impact...even then though I would have thought modern ejectors seats would still have given him a chance of survival if he had ejected seconds before impact.
It's all the more suprising considering how well looked after these jets are, with their own dedicated ground and maintenence crew that goes everywhere with them.

I sincerely hope this does not keep the red arrows out of the sky for long as they truely are a magnificant sight (and sound).

Tragic for all involved.

(((Fergus)))
22-08-2011, 11:47 AM
That is the story being told...I assume he didn't kill himself on purpose so he must have felt the need to to try and control the plane right until the last second before impact...even then though I would have thought modern ejectors seats would still have given him a chance of survival if he had ejected seconds before impact.
It's all the more suprising considering how well looked after these jets are, with their own dedicated ground and maintenence crew that goes everywhere with them.

I sincerely hope this does not keep the red arrows out of the sky for long as they truely are a magnificant sight (and sound).

Tragic for all involved.

They will have been pulling a lot of Gs when they fanned out as they did and he may have lost consciousness momentarily, came round again and ejected when it was too late.

Andy74
25-08-2011, 03:27 PM
What is the purpose of the red arrows?

They are part of the military are they? I presume we don't have them and pay for them just to look nice at air shows and things?

Scouse Hibee
25-08-2011, 03:32 PM
What is the purpose of the red arrows?

They are part of the military are they? I presume we don't have them and pay for them just to look nice at air shows and things?
The official name of the Team is the ‘Royal Air Force Aerobatic Team’, commonly known as the ‘Red Arrows’. The Red Arrows are a small part of a large organisation; the Royal Air Force, much of which is engaged in operations overseas defending UK interests and making the world a safer place.
The Red Arrows are the public face of the Royal Air Force and are acknowledged as one of the world’s premier aerobatic teams. Within the UK, the Red Arrows exist to demonstrate the professional excellence of the Royal Air Force and promote recruitment to the Royal Air Force. The Red Arrows have inspired a significant number of people to join the Royal Air Force, both as officers and airmen in all trades, not just pilots!
The Team supports wider British interests overseas by contributing to Defence Diplomacy efforts and promoting British industry. The Hawk aircraft flown by the Team and most of its components are all British made. During international tours the Red Arrows demonstrate both British skill and British technology to millions of people.
The Red Arrows also help more than 500 UK charities every year - contributing many thousands of pounds to a wide variety of important causes.