90 lives = 21 years

[Hibbyradge]

The maximum number of years a person is allowed to be imprisoned for in Norway is 21 years.

Anders Breivik will be out and about in time for his 54th birthday.

[Sylar]

It should be 90 x 21 - it's disgraceful if he's let out in 21 years and he'd undoubtedly still pose a danger to society!

I wouldn't be surprised if another inmate ended this guy when he gets put inside - it's only another 21 years onto the sentence after all.

[1two]

he'll be put away as a mentally ill prisoner and never get out.

[Sylar]

Was looking through the "In Pictures" section of the BBC coverage of the story and the caption on the last picture suggests he'll be imprisoned for longer than the 21 years.

[DH1875]

The maximum number of years a person is allowed to be imprisoned for in Norway is 21 years.

Anders Breivik will be out and about in time for his 54th birthday.

Is that true? It's nothing short of ducking crazy if it is.

[Hibrandenburg]

But surely prison is about rehabilitation and not just punishment? If you can't be rehabilitated after 21 years then there is little hope for you.

[essexhibee]

There's no way he will be out after 21 years.

[Steve-O]

I read something today that said he could technically stay in prison for the rest of his life. It seems it's not quite as simple as was first portrayed.

[Beefster]

"Under Norwegian law, he faces a maximum of 21 years in jail if convicted, although that sentence can be extended if a prisoner is deemed a threat to the public."

From the BBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14270655

[Marabou Stork]

I was speaking to my Norwegian ex-flatmate about this earlier. He said they've got something called 'forvaring' which means that he'll be assessed after 21 years, and if he isn't deemed fit to be released, he can be kept in jail until he is deemed to be fit for release. I suppose it's a bit similar to a parole system on a life sentence where one can be eligible for parole after 30 years, but will not necessarily be released after this time.

[YehButNoBut]

News now reporting that the number dead has been reduced from 93 to 76.

In his mind he was saving Norway from the "Muslim Takeover"

From BBC news site below.

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For at least nine years he carried anger towards the changes occurring in Norwegian society. He did not accept the multicultural country that was emerging. It threatened his identity and he felt alienated from it. He was in contact with other extreme groups who increasingly saw Islam as a danger and the enemy.

Chilling words

For the past three years Breivik was writing his manifesto, counting down to the moment when he would use terrible violence against his own state and people. Two months ago he went out and bought six tonnes of fertiliser. Like McVeigh, he would come to see his country's political establishment - which in his case had run Norway since World War Two - as the real enemy.

"What most people still do not understand is that the ongoing Islamicisation of Europe cannot be stopped before one gets to grip with the political doctrine which makes it possible," he wrote.


So the target that formed in his mind was not immigrant groups, but the government itself, and young people who were attached to the ruling left-leaning Labour Party. His lawyer said that "he had been politically active and found out himself that he did not succeed with usual political tools and so resorted to violence".

In his own chilling words, the killings were "atrocious but necessary".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14274387

[Hibs Class]

The Norwegians are now considering a charge of crimes against humanity which has a maximum sentence of 30 years.

[Sylar]

The Norwegians are now considering a charge of crimes against humanity which has a maximum sentence of 30 years.

Their legal system seems to have some subjectivity to it. They have all of these sentences with "a maximum of x years", yet he can be detained well beyond that if he is still deemed a "threat to public safety", which undoubtedly, with his viewpoints, he will be.

[heretoday]

I gather sentences for tax evasion in Norway and Sweden are almost as severe as those for murder. They take economic stability very seriously.

[Phil D. Rolls]

he'll be put away as a mentally ill prisoner and never get out.

It might be different in Norway, but - in this country - you are released into society once you are well enough.

Anyway, there's nothing about this guy so far to suggest he is mad to me. A cold, calculating ******* that knew exactly what the had to do to achieve his objectives.

The scary thing is that, all the time he is in jail, he becomes a martyr and an icon to the far right throughout Europe.

[lapsedhibee]

The scary thing is that, all the time he is in jail, he becomes a martyr and an icon to the far right throughout Europe.

If he's going to become a martyr anyway, wouldn't it be just as well to execute him? I don't think there's a "but what if the polis got the wrong man?" argument against it.

[Sir David Gray]

I could not believe this when I heard about that law.

It's absolutely ridiculous that any murderer should be out after 21 years, never mind one that will go down as one of the most infamous European terrorists in living memory.

He simply cannot be released when he's 53 years old. For the sake of the families of those he's killed and those he's injured, he must spend the rest of his life in prison.

Everything that's been said about him suggests that he would do exactly the same thing all over again tomorrow if he got the chance.

[Phil D. Rolls]

If he's going to become a martyr anyway, wouldn't it be just as well to execute him? I don't think there's a "but what if the polis got the wrong man?" argument against it.

Yep, not much case of mistaken identity here.

In this case, I would definitely agree with the death penalty. I'm not Norwegian though, and it's their business.