Wake Me Up Before Agogo

[Speedway]

Having a look at the boy's stats, there's plenty to be encouraged about in signing this guy.


2002–2003

Barnet

39

(19)

Ratio: 1 goal every 2 games near enough



2003–2006

Bristol Rovers

126

(41)

Ratio: 1 goal in every 3 games

2006–2008

Nottingham Forest

64

(20)

Ratio: 1 goal in every 3 games under the Caldomaster.

2008–2009

Zamalek SC

15

(4)

Ratio: 1 goal in every 3 games

2009–2011

Apollon Limassol

24

(6)

Ratio: 1 goal in every 5 games

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13miUhT5lPU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVrJ44zGREQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACD_6z1evaQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEOCi4mUkQQ&NR=1&feature=fvwp

He's even got a quality website:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMzhjAGW7dg&feature=related

And this takes some beating:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=related

[we are hibs]

Having a look at the boy's stats, there's plenty to be encouraged about in signing this guy.


2002–2003

Barnet

39

(19)

Ratio: 1 goal every 2 games near enough



2003–2006

Bristol Rovers

126

(41)

Ratio: 1 goal in every 3 games

2006–2008

Nottingham Forest

64

(20)

Ratio: 1 goal in every 3 games under the Caldomaster.

2008–2009

Zamalek SC

15

(4)

Ratio: 1 goal in every 3 games

2009–2011

Apollon Limassol

24

(6)

Ratio: 1 goal in every 5 games

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13miUhT5lPU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVrJ44zGREQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACD_6z1evaQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEOCi4mUkQQ&NR=1&feature=fvwp

He's even got a quality website:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMzhjAGW7dg&feature=related

And this takes some beating:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=related




has he signed:confused::confused:

[Speedway]

has he signed:confused::confused:

Pending international clearance, which Hibs always wait for before announcing anything.

[Stevie Reid]

Yep, would be very excited if we get him signed.

[Andy74]

There is a pattern to the scoring ratios though!

[R'Albin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=related

:grr:

[IWasThere2016]

There is a pattern to the scoring ratios though!

He's bound to score than Nish, Duffy, Byrne, Trakys put together though ..

[Speedway]

He's bound to score than Nish, Duffy, Byrne, Trakys put together though ..

Put the last three together and you get 0 goals don't you?

[Andy74]

He's bound to score than Nish, Duffy, Byrne, Trakys put together though ..

Wouldn't argue with that.

[Judas Iscariot]

He's bound to score than Nish, Duffy, Byrne, Trakys put together though .. What about Riordan, Stokes & Nish then?

[Wilson]

What about Riordan, Stokes & Nish then?

What about Crawford and Lavetty then?

[Speedway]

What about Crawford and Lavetty then?

What about Tosh and Power then?

[3pm]

What about Tosh and Power then?

Jesus, how bad were they two?!

[Stevie Reid]

What about Crawford and Lavetty then?

Crawford scored 24 in 71 starts, Lavety scored 12 in 42. Hardly embarrassing.

[Judas Iscariot]

What about Crawford and Lavetty then? Is that who Riordan, Stokes & Nish replaced?

[MacBean]

Jesus, how bad were they two?!

I know Jesus was a pretty special guy, but never heard of him splitting into two :devil:

[smurf]

He appears to have a very good pedigree and I would be encouraged greatly if he signs.

[CallumLaidlaw]

experienced striker with decent goalscoring ratio. yes please.

[R'Albin]

http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/Baptism-of-fire-for-Junior.6804518.jp?articlepage=2

Calderwood said: "Junior is still here but there's been a problem with the clearance. He's fit but took a little knock in the second day of training and that, added to not having clarification and certainty he was clear to play, meant he couldn't play last night.

"But he is one we certainly hope to progress. I've spoken to him about that and he could, in theory, be available for the weekend. If we could do it, I would push to do that."

Also about Sheridan..

"There is an offer there, to Cillian at the start, but in reality it's an offer to his club. We have to get a reply so we will sit and wait."

If successful, Calderwood admitted he didn't envisage any further arrivals, saying: "I think it we could complete them (Agogo and Sheridan] that would be good ammunition for us."

[Wilson]

Crawford scored 24 in 71 starts, Lavety scored 12 in 42. Hardly embarrassing.Never said it was. I thought we were just name-checking strike partnerships.

[Andy74]

http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/Baptism-of-fire-for-Junior.6804518.jp?articlepage=2

Calderwood said: "Junior is still here but there's been a problem with the clearance. He's fit but took a little knock in the second day of training and that, added to not having clarification and certainty he was clear to play, meant he couldn't play last night.

"But he is one we certainly hope to progress. I've spoken to him about that and he could, in theory, be available for the weekend. If we could do it, I would push to do that."

Also about Sheridan..

"There is an offer there, to Cillian at the start, but in reality it's an offer to his club. We have to get a reply so we will sit and wait."

If successful, Calderwood admitted he didn't envisage any further arrivals, saying: "I think it we could complete them (Agogo and Sheridan] that would be good ammunition for us."

I hope the News have just taken the last quote the wrong way. I hope what he means is that there would be no more forwards arriving.

We at least need a right back.

[Stevie Reid]

Never said it was. I thought we were just name-checking strike partnerships.

Fair enough.


I hope the News have just taken the last quote the wrong way. I hope what he means is that there would be no more forwards arriving.

We at least need a right back.

I took from it that Agogo and Sheridan would mean no more forwards arriving. Would be delighted if we land them both but encouraging regardless because he obviously wants two more forwards.

[jonty]

And this takes some beating:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=related

flange :greengrin

[R'Albin]

I hope the News have just taken the last quote the wrong way. I hope what he means is that there would be no more forwards arriving.

We at least need a right back.

That's my take on it, they seem have taken lots of quotes the wrong way recently.

[Wilson]

Is that who Riordan, Stokes & Nish replaced?The likes of mixu, brewster, and killen were in the mix before we arrived at those three. None of them having achieved the hero status of a konte or a hurtado.

[SaulGoodman]

Decent player, some nice skill. And a good Goalscoring record.



Not keen on his moves in the last Video though :cool2:

[IWasThere2016]

I hope the News have just taken the last quote the wrong way. I hope what he means is that there would be no more forwards arriving.

We at least need a right back.


Fair enough.



I took from it that Agogo and Sheridan would mean no more forwards arriving. Would be delighted if we land them both but encouraging regardless because he obviously wants two more forwards.

:agree: We need a RB and strikers (plural!)

[seven nowt]

For that Apollon Limassol team, I count 1 goal every four games. No big difference though

He's got a better International record, I'd say

[sambajustice]

http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/Baptism-of-fire-for-Junior.6804518.jp?articlepage=2

Calderwood said: "Junior is still here but there's been a problem with the clearance. He's fit but took a little knock in the second day of training and that, added to not having clarification and certainty he was clear to play, meant he couldn't play last night.

"But he is one we certainly hope to progress. I've spoken to him about that and he could, in theory, be available for the weekend. If we could do it, I would push to do that."

Also about Sheridan..

"There is an offer there, to Cillian at the start, but in reality it's an offer to his club. We have to get a reply so we will sit and wait."

If successful, Calderwood admitted he didn't envisage any further arrivals, saying: "I think it we could complete them (Agogo and Sheridan] that would be good ammunition for us.


:panic: Oh jeez, LOL, if thats the case we better prepare ourselves for a few more 6-6 games this season... :faint:

[R'Albin]

:panic: Oh jeez, LOL, if thats the case we better prepare ourselves for a few more 6-6 games this season... :faint:

Tbh as I said earlier I think they have just misinterpretated what he said, surely he will sign a right back?

[sambajustice]

Tbh as I said earlier I think they have just misinterpretated what he said, surely he will sign a right back?

Hopefully! I wouldnt mind a centre mid as well, a "creative" one.

I would imagine that Towell might "suddenly" become available come Monday morning...

Did we not do something similar with Crawford and Dunfermline a few years ago? THey wanted him but we drew them in the Scottish Cup, i think we papped them out 4-0 then we dramatically dropped our asking price for him!

Towell not going to get a sniff at Celtc Park i dont think.

[persevere1875]

The likes of mixu, brewster, and killen were in the mix before we arrived at those three. None of them having achieved the hero status of a konte or a hurtado.

Marc Libra ??:not worth

[Mister P]

Dunno anything about the boy but just met his missus. Apparently cc rates him, he likes cc and he should sign today.

More about his gf by the way........mmmmm :wink:

[Speedway]

Dunno anything about the boy but just met his missus. Apparently cc rates him, he likes cc and he should sign today.

More about his gf by the way........:wink:

Which 'the boy' is that?

[Mister P]

Agogo

[R'Albin]

Which 'the boy' is that?

Don't know much about him, just know he is a Celtic fan:agree:

[MyJo]

Hopefully! I wouldnt mind a centre mid as well, a "creative" one.

I would imagine that Towell might "suddenly" become available come Monday morning...

Did we not do something similar with Crawford and Dunfermline a few years ago? THey wanted him but we drew them in the Scottish Cup, i think we papped them out 4-0 then we dramatically dropped our asking price for him!

Towell not going to get a sniff at Celtc Park i dont think.


More likely to be on the 31st August that we sign Towell but we must be confident in getting him back which is why there has been no urgency to sign a new right back.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Don't know much about him, just know he is a Celtic fan:agree:All Africans are born Sellick fans dontcha know. :wink:

[Judas Iscariot]

Dunno anything about the boy but just met his missus. Apparently cc rates him, he likes cc and he should sign today.More about his gf by the way........mmmmm :wink: NO female is safe from you eh?!!

[Speedway]

Don't know much about him, just know he is a Celtic fan:agree:

Subtle.

[MyJo]

All Africans are born Sellick fans dontcha know. :wink:

Famine Solidarity :dunno:




Sorry.......im a very bad man :hide:

[YehButNoBut]

An update on this from Sky Sports this afternoon but nothing new.

Although CC does say that: -

"Junior is still here; we are waiting for clearance to get him ready to be available for us.
"He is in good condition, actually, so there was a little hold up in not being able to play against Falkirk. (http://topics.skysports.com/falkirk/?section=football)http://static.lingospot.com/spot/image/spacer.gif But ongoing, I think it will be very exciting for us."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11781_7050847,00.html

[bingo70]

Preview of the scottish sport just said that Calderwood says we might have to wait a few weeks before he joins us but he's confident he'll be with us for next season.

No much use for us this weekend, considering CC knows all about him and he's a free agent it pisses me off we're still tying up deals like this a few days before the season starts.

[Mister P]

NO female is safe from you eh?!!

Touche'

[Cocaine&Caviar]

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2011/07/20/wolves-set-to-loan-out-leigh-griffiths/

Griffiths looks unlikely.

[Speedway]

Preview of the scottish sport just said that Calderwood says we might have to wait a few weeks before he joins us but he's confident he'll be with us for next season.

No much use for us this weekend, considering CC knows all about him and he's a free agent it pisses me off we're still tying up deals like this a few days before the season starts.

Can't help wondering if that quote was for Celtic's benefit.

[SmokieJoe]

Having a look at the boy's stats, there's plenty to be encouraged about in signing this guy.


2002–2003

Barnet

39

(19)

Ratio: 1 goal every 2 games near enough



2003–2006

Bristol Rovers

126

(41)

Ratio: 1 goal in every 3 games

2006–2008

Nottingham Forest

64

(20)

Ratio: 1 goal in every 3 games under the Caldomaster.

2008–2009

Zamalek SC

15

(4)

Ratio: 1 goal in every 3 games

2009–2011

Apollon Limassol

24

(6)

Ratio: 1 goal in every 5 games

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13miUhT5lPU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVrJ44zGREQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACD_6z1evaQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEOCi4mUkQQ&NR=1&feature=fvwp

He's even got a quality website:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMzhjAGW7dg&feature=related

And this takes some beating:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=related

24 games 6 goals, shirley 1 int 4?

[R'Albin]

Can't help wondering if that quote was for Celtic's benefit.

:agree:

[FromTheCapital]

He's got excellent skill and he looks a nice finisher of the ball...

Would be a good sigining...!

[Mister P]

Agogo looks like a guy who can get in front of defenders, pick a goal out, live of scraps etc. Hes apparently been hitting the gym hard in preperation for coming up to Edinburgh. Im pretty keen to see this guy in action.

[Andy74]

Haven't seen this mentioned before but his noughts and crosses skills do not appear to be Hibs class:

"Agogo scored only three goals after his return from the 2008 African Cup of Nations, one of which was against Leyton Orient at Brisbane Road. On that same day he was comprehensively beaten at Noughts and Crosses by James Strudwick on the roof of the away team dugout. Nonetheless, he finished as Forest's top-scorer that season with thirteen goals, helping the club gain automatic promotion to the Championship"

[Andy74]

Preview of the scottish sport just said that Calderwood says we might have to wait a few weeks before he joins us but he's confident he'll be with us for next season.

No much use for us this weekend, considering CC knows all about him and he's a free agent it pisses me off we're still tying up deals like this a few days before the season starts.

I think the problem is we don't really know he is free, in that wedon't have clearnace to evidence that. If we signed him and he wasn't actually free we would be looking at a cost.

[bingo70]

Andy, I know what you mean but we've
had all summer to establish if he was a free transfer so why are we waiting till 3days before the season starts? It's not like calderwood will have just become aware of him, he obviously knows the guy from when they worked together

[matty_f]

Andy, I know what you mean but we've
had all summer to establish if he was a free transfer so why are we waiting till 3days before the season starts? It's not like calderwood will have just become aware of him, he obviously knows the guy from when they worked together

Possibly just being extra diligent after we had our fingers burnt with the Zemmama transfer (we thought he was free, and ended up paying a fee for him).

[bingo70]

Could we not have started with the extra diligent process at the start of the window instead of 4 or 5 days before the season starts?

[matty_f]

Could we not have started with the extra diligent process at the start of the window instead of 4 or 5 days before the season starts?

Dunno how it works mate, maybe they could have. Dunno if we knew he'd be available at the start of the window or if we'd go ahead with the deal. Maybe the other club or international association are dragging their heels. Just speculating as I genuinely don't know how the process works.

I wouldn't imagine that folk would purposefully drag their heels on it from our end, though. That wouldn't serve any purpose whatsoever, though that doesn't mean it hasn't happened!

[Newry Hibs]

I think this song about a relative of his could be popular at ER if he is a success ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZqUNEHYZgQ

[Stevie Reid]

Andy, I know what you mean but we've
had all summer to establish if he was a free transfer so why are we waiting till 3days before the season starts? It's not like calderwood will have just become aware of him, he obviously knows the guy from when they worked together

He's been recovering from a knee injury and may still be under contract elsewhere.

[R'Albin]

We could do with signing this boy before the 24th, but it wouldn't be the end of the world to start with G'oC and Crawford/Sproule.

[Cropley10]

Could we not have started with the extra diligent process at the start of the window instead of 4 or 5 days before the season starts?

Well it's hardly the Club's fault he's had a knee injury and might be under contract elsewhere is it? :rolleyes:

[greenlex]

Could it be a work permit/visa problem rather than footballing registration thats holding this up.Could be a fitness/injury thing found during a mefical and has a set period of time to overcome this before we sign him.

[R'Albin]

Anyone heard anything more about this? Presuming it's too late for him to play on Sunday now...

[matty_f]

Anyone heard anything more about this? Presuming it's too late for him to play on Sunday now...

CC said they were waiting on the international clearance and it wasn't likely to happen before Sunday. Not sure if we can get him registered today or if it would have had to have been done by yesterday.

[R'Albin]

CC said they were waiting on the international clearance and it wasn't likely to happen before Sunday. Not sure if we can get him registered today or if it would have had to have been done by yesterday.

So looks like we only have two fit strikers for Sunday then, have to say sounds like we have been a bit unlucky with this one.

[matty_f]

So looks like we only have two fit strikers for Sunday then, have to say sounds like we have been a bit unlucky with this one.

I would say so, unlucky that Sodje got injured, unlucky that Sheridan mucked us about, and unlucky that we never got international clearance through.

It could prove a blessing in disguise though, if that luck changes. Crawford should get a chance to feature at some point, and if ever there was a stage to show what you can do, then a season opener, on tv, against one of the best teams in the country, against a former team... then this is it.

I suppose as a manager you're looking at who is in the squad and telling them that this is their chance to show their worth.

[R'Albin]

I would say so, unlucky that Sodje got injured, unlucky that Sheridan mucked us about, and unlucky that we never got international clearance through.

It could prove a blessing in disguise though, if that luck changes. Crawford should get a chance to feature at some point, and if ever there was a stage to show what you can do, then a season opener, on tv, against one of the best teams in the country, against a former team... then this is it.

I suppose as a manager you're looking at who is in the squad and telling them that this is their chance to show their worth.

:agree: I hope Calderwood does go with Crawford instead of playing Garry on his own up front, been hearing lots of good things about him and as you say, this is a great chance for him to prove himself.

I don't get why everyone is automatically blaming us for not signing Sheridan, we maybe wanted him on a year long loan or permanently but Sofia were only willing to let him go for 6 months, maybe CC did get fed up of Sofia and Sheridan mucking us around, but none of us know what actually happened.

[offshorehibby]

To be honest it seems to be taking a life time getting clearance.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I would say so, unlucky that Sodje got injured, unlucky that Sheridan mucked us about, and unlucky that we never got international clearance through.

It could prove a blessing in disguise though, if that luck changes. Crawford should get a chance to feature at some point, and if ever there was a stage to show what you can do, then a season opener, on tv, against one of the best teams in the country, against a former team... then this is it.

I suppose as a manager you're looking at who is in the squad and telling them that this is their chance to show their worth.

Unlucky, or piss poor preparation and organisation?:rolleyes:

[R'Albin]

To be honest it seems to be taking a life time getting clearance.

I'm feeling the same tbh, but their is nothing we as the club can do to hurry the process up sadly.

[matty_f]

Unlucky, or piss poor preparation and organisation?:rolleyes:

Clearly the latter, as the former presents us with no opportunity to kick the club in the baws.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Clearly the latter, as the former presents us with no opportunity to kick the club in the baws.

:rolleyes:

Your defence is admirable but completely boring, and you clearly ain't seeing the bigger picture, everything in your garden is obviously rosy

[matty_f]

:rolleyes:

Your defence is admirable but completely boring, and you clearly ain't seeing the bigger picture, everything in your garden is obviously rosy

No, it's not. Far from it.

[YehButNoBut]

Doesn't sound like Agogo would be fit to play if clearance was made, according to the DR he has a slight knock.

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Calderwood is hoping to push through a deal to sign former Forest forward Junior Agogo but the 32-year-old has a slight knock and the deal is yet to be completed.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2011/07/22/colin-calderwood-my-hibs-side-won-t-start-the-season-on-top-form-86908-23289571/

[The Falcon]

:rolleyes:

Your defence is admirable but completely boring, and you clearly ain't seeing the bigger picture, everything in your garden is obviously rosy


And shouting about how bad everything at hibs is isnt?

When something goes wrong blame can always be allocated somewhere. Dosent matter what it is. Some blame everybody else, some get up and get on with it.

[Spike Mandela]

So looks like we only have two fit strikers for Sunday then, have to say sounds like we have been a bit unlucky with this one.

Sheer incompetence.

[Baldy Foghorn]

And shouting about how bad everything at hibs is isnt?

When something goes wrong blame can always be allocated somewhere. Dosent matter what it is. Some blame everybody else, some get up and get on with it.

So o you think everything is good at the moment?

[eastmainsmsh]

International Clearance say Agogo Can play on Sunday at a cost of 500 quid but Petrie told CC if he waits till tuesday he wont have to pay the Secretary for the administration fees :devil::devil:

[The Falcon]

So o you think everything is good at the moment?


Course its not. It would be ridiculous to suggest it is.

But we will work our way through it.

[Speedway]

So o you think everything is good at the moment?

That's right, the polar opposite is always the case when someone disagrees.

[YehButNoBut]

That's right, the polar opposite is always the case when someone disagrees.

:agree:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM

[smurf]

Clearly the latter, as the former presents us with no opportunity to kick the club in the baws.

Do you really believe that's folks motivations? You make it sound as if board critics are pleased that they are given such valid reasons for legitimate reasons for concerns that they express.

With respect I think that's complete nonsense.

[Speedway]

:agree:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM

:agree::greengrin

[Ray_]

Course its not. It would be ridiculous to suggest it is.

But we will work our way through it.

The question is how much damage will have been done before its got right, last time it was a debt of 18M & a hell of a lot of fans totally disaffected from the board & ultimately the club.

[R'Albin]

Sheer incompetence.

Do expand?

[jonty]

Do you really believe that's folks motivations? You make it sound as if board critics are pleased that they are given such valid reasons for legitimate reasons for concerns that they express.With respect I think that's complete nonsense. I think that there are a few more vocal 'glass half empty' posters rather than 'glass half full'. Some of the more extreme 'glass half empty' posters don't accept the glass is also capable of being half full (two sides of the same story). Non-one is happy about the current situation - from the board to the fans.

[smurf]

I think that there are a few more vocal 'glass half empty' posters rather than 'glass half full'. Some of the more extreme 'glass half empty' posters don't accept the glass is also capable of being half full (two sides of the same story). Non-one is happy about the current situation - from the board to the fans.

Fair points. The difference though between us and the board is that the latter are in control. In power to actually make things happen or not. If the board are not happy with where we are then what the hell are they doing about it?

[MyJo]

Do you really believe that's folks motivations? You make it sound as if board critics are pleased that they are given such valid reasons for legitimate reasons for concerns that they express.

With respect I think that's complete nonsense.

The problem is that 90% of hibs fans do have genuine concerns for our prospects in the coming season and are either reasonably discussing the problems that exist at the club or putting a brave face on it and looking for the positives wherever we find them at least until the season kicks off and we see how the team copes.

The other 10% are the ones who revel in negativity, take every single opportunity to criticise the club. the manager, the players, the board and other fans or twist statements and situations into sticks with which to beat the club and generally let the whole world know how s**t the team, the club life and the universe actually is.........This 10% are the ones who are shouting the longest and loudest at the moment and crushing any possible glimmer of hope or motivation that reasonable people are holding onto.

The club have got rid of every single player that was ever moaned about last season.............but now our squad is too small to cope with a full season in the SPL.

We've had too many managers in the last ten years so the club have taken a stance to retain Calderwood as our manager................but apparently the preferred option is to sack him and go through the whole process again.

Had we been told in March that we would have O'Connor, Sproule and O'Hanlon signed up for next season we would be ecstatic................now they are washed up, injury prone has beens who couldnt get a contract anywhere else.

We have got the makings of the golden generation mk2 with the number of youth players promoted to and holding down places in the first team at the moment......................but they arent good enough to be in the squad and we should fill the team with more third rate journeymen to sit on the bench most of the time rather than giving these boys gametime (see point number 1 for the result of this tactic)

Our season is starting ridiculously early and we're not fully equipped yet thanks to us being in the market for players that will only be available to us once the bigger clubs have done thier summer shopping and decided on releasing/loaning/selling players when thier seasons start and we still have 5 weeks before the transfer window ends........................but we should have taken someone, anyone just to be in the squad for the SPL season kicking off to make up the numbers rather than targeting the quality of players that we have often got toward the end of the window in previous seasons (stokes, Riordan, Bamba etc)

The club are being more open with the fans, we have confirmed transfer targets before a deal was concluded to keep the fans up to date and show that work was being done, we've had statements released by the club to give updates on situation that are being reported in the media and discussed on here that the club dont have to comment on and havent previously, we've got directors of the club being sent e-mails and letters from fans that would have solicited an automated generic message in response previously but are now getting replies addressing thier concerns, telephone conversations with Fife Hyland and invitations to go and meet with him at the club to discuss the situation................yet every single one of these things has been turned around as a negative. The sheridan situation: we wouldn't have even known about him being on trial before but now that we do when it doesnt work out everyone is up in arms about it and berating the club for not signing him. We've identified Agogo and everyone is getting frustrated at the lengthy process of getting international clearance saying the club should have done this ages ago when before we would have been none the wiser about this until he was revealed as being signed and Fife Hyland being criticised for his responses and defence of the club and the work he and the board of directors are doing not to mention the stuff that is bordering on personal attacks on the characters of Rod Petrie, Sir Tom Farmer and Fife himself.

Yes that are problems, even the happiest of clappers out there (yes im looking at you Matty) isnt denying that there are major concerns but the constant negativity is just out of control.

[jonty]

Fair points. The difference though between us and the board is that the latter are in control. In power to actually make things happen or not. If the board are not happy with where we are then what the hell are they doing about it?
The power to make it happen also relys on fans buying STs. They've delivered the increased capacity to do that but we're not buying.
Now i'm sure that will be the boards fault too but how it's often said that we support the team and not the board which is why some have bought tickets.
We're not happy about it but we're not going out in our droves to buy STs in order to make more money available for the manager.

The board can't make players sign and make them available. The manager can only identify targets that are ready to be picked up. Then the negotiations take place and at any point (as we've seen with CS), any party can walk away. It's unusual in that this time it was the Hibs manager.

If the transfer window hans't been opened earlier but the season has started earlier - which has had an impact on all clubs, not just us. Butcher was in the scotsman complaining about the very thing but thats gone largely un-noticed.

That, IMO, has been the major culprit for the reason the summer hasn't gone as smoothly as it could have.

[aliman82]

The problem is that 90% of hibs fans do have genuine concerns for our prospects in the coming season and are either reasonably discussing the problems that exist at the club or putting a brave face on it and looking for the positives wherever we find them at least until the season kicks off and we see how the team copes.

The other 10% are the ones who revel in negativity, take every single opportunity to criticise the club. the manager, the players, the board and other fans or twist statements and situations into sticks with which to beat the club and generally let the whole world know how s**t the team, the club life and the universe actually is.........This 10% are the ones who are shouting the longest and loudest at the moment and crushing any possible glimmer of hope or motivation that reasonable people are holding onto.

The club have got rid of every single player that was ever moaned about last season.............but now our squad is too small to cope with a full season in the SPL.

We've had too many managers in the last ten years so the club have taken a stance to retain Calderwood as our manager................but apparently the preferred option is to sack him and go through the whole process again.

Had we been told in March that we would have O'Connor, Sproule and O'Hanlon signed up for next season we would be ecstatic................now they are washed up, injury prone has beens who couldnt get a contract anywhere else.

We have got the makings of the golden generation mk2 with the number of youth players promoted to and holding down places in the first team at the moment......................but they arent good enough to be in the squad and we should fill the team with more third rate journeymen to sit on the bench most of the time rather than giving these boys gametime (see point number 1 for the result of this tactic)

Our season is starting ridiculously early and we're not fully equipped yet thanks to us being in the market for players that will only be available to us once the bigger clubs have done thier summer shopping and decided on releasing/loaning/selling players when thier seasons start and we still have 5 weeks before the transfer window ends........................but we should have taken someone, anyone just to be in the squad for the SPL season kicking off to make up the numbers rather than targeting the quality of players that we have often got toward the end of the window in previous seasons (stokes, Riordan, Bamba etc)

The club are being more open with the fans, we have confirmed transfer targets before a deal was concluded to keep the fans up to date and show that work was being done, we've had statements released by the club to give updates on situation that are being reported in the media and discussed on here that the club dont have to comment on and havent previously, we've got directors of the club being sent e-mails and letters from fans that would have solicited an automated generic message in response previously but are now getting replies addressing thier concerns, telephone conversations with Fife Hyland and invitations to go and meet with him at the club to discuss the situation................yet every single one of these things has been turned around as a negative. The sheridan situation: we wouldn't have even known about him being on trial before but now that we do when it doesnt work out everyone is up in arms about it and berating the club for not signing him. We've identified Agogo and everyone is getting frustrated at the lengthy process of getting international clearance saying the club should have done this ages ago when before we would have been none the wiser about this until he was revealed as being signed and Fife Hyland being criticised for his responses and defence of the club and the work he and the board of directors are doing not to mention the stuff that is bordering on personal attacks on the characters of Rod Petrie, Sir Tom Farmer and Fife himself.

Yes that are problems, even the happiest of clappers out there (yes im looking at you Matty) isnt denying that there are major concerns but the constant negativity is just out of control.

Great post, agree with every word.

[The Falcon]

The question is how much damage will have been done before its got right, last time it was a debt of 18M & a hell of a lot of fans totally disaffected from the board & ultimately the club.

We dont really agree on that much Ray, which is fair enough, but I do not honestly think things are as bad as they are being portrayed. We will see.

[KeithTheHibby]

I would say so, unlucky that Sodje got injured, unlucky that Sheridan mucked us about, and unlucky that we never got international clearance through.

It could prove a blessing in disguise though, if that luck changes. Crawford should get a chance to feature at some point, and if ever there was a stage to show what you can do, then a season opener, on tv, against one of the best teams in the country, against a former team... then this is it.

I suppose as a manager you're looking at who is in the squad and telling them that this is their chance to show their worth.


I am not buying that one, we have not been pro-active enough in getting in players when we should.

We have known for 2 months that we were only going to have 1 signed striker (Sodge) on the books. Yes we signed GoC which should be applauded yet it has only been in the last 2 weeks that we seen Agogo and Sheridan coming into the club - both way too late.

We have also not addressed the right back position which is quite disgraceful as Hart is pish and Taggart doesn't look ready.

[LeithBoozy]

It is a pity that Akpo is injured and that Junior's clearance is not through yet. Things would have been looking a lot brighter, all new signings are a gamble, but one thing no one can say is that Agogo lacks commitment. The guy has been paying his own way since he arrived, which shows IMHO that the guy is keen to join-up with CC once again and he is not gready money wise. :wink:

[GreenPJ]

We should have been better prepared but the ridiculous start date of the season does not help.

[R'Albin]

The problem is that 90% of hibs fans do have genuine concerns for our prospects in the coming season and are either reasonably discussing the problems that exist at the club or putting a brave face on it and looking for the positives wherever we find them at least until the season kicks off and we see how the team copes.

The other 10% are the ones who revel in negativity, take every single opportunity to criticise the club. the manager, the players, the board and other fans or twist statements and situations into sticks with which to beat the club and generally let the whole world know how s**t the team, the club life and the universe actually is.........This 10% are the ones who are shouting the longest and loudest at the moment and crushing any possible glimmer of hope or motivation that reasonable people are holding onto.

The club have got rid of every single player that was ever moaned about last season.............but now our squad is too small to cope with a full season in the SPL.

We've had too many managers in the last ten years so the club have taken a stance to retain Calderwood as our manager................but apparently the preferred option is to sack him and go through the whole process again.

Had we been told in March that we would have O'Connor, Sproule and O'Hanlon signed up for next season we would be ecstatic................now they are washed up, injury prone has beens who couldnt get a contract anywhere else.

We have got the makings of the golden generation mk2 with the number of youth players promoted to and holding down places in the first team at the moment......................but they arent good enough to be in the squad and we should fill the team with more third rate journeymen to sit on the bench most of the time rather than giving these boys gametime (see point number 1 for the result of this tactic)

Our season is starting ridiculously early and we're not fully equipped yet thanks to us being in the market for players that will only be available to us once the bigger clubs have done thier summer shopping and decided on releasing/loaning/selling players when thier seasons start and we still have 5 weeks before the transfer window ends........................but we should have taken someone, anyone just to be in the squad for the SPL season kicking off to make up the numbers rather than targeting the quality of players that we have often got toward the end of the window in previous seasons (stokes, Riordan, Bamba etc)

The club are being more open with the fans, we have confirmed transfer targets before a deal was concluded to keep the fans up to date and show that work was being done, we've had statements released by the club to give updates on situation that are being reported in the media and discussed on here that the club dont have to comment on and havent previously, we've got directors of the club being sent e-mails and letters from fans that would have solicited an automated generic message in response previously but are now getting replies addressing thier concerns, telephone conversations with Fife Hyland and invitations to go and meet with him at the club to discuss the situation................yet every single one of these things has been turned around as a negative. The sheridan situation: we wouldn't have even known about him being on trial before but now that we do when it doesnt work out everyone is up in arms about it and berating the club for not signing him. We've identified Agogo and everyone is getting frustrated at the lengthy process of getting international clearance saying the club should have done this ages ago when before we would have been none the wiser about this until he was revealed as being signed and Fife Hyland being criticised for his responses and defence of the club and the work he and the board of directors are doing not to mention the stuff that is bordering on personal attacks on the characters of Rod Petrie, Sir Tom Farmer and Fife himself.

Yes that are problems, even the happiest of clappers out there (yes im looking at you Matty) isnt denying that there are major concerns but the constant negativity is just out of control.

:top marks Agree with every word, sums some people on here up brilliantly.

[basehibby]

:agree: I hope Calderwood does go with Crawford instead of playing Garry on his own up front, been hearing lots of good things about him and as you say, this is a great chance for him to prove himself.

I don't get why everyone is automatically blaming us for not signing Sheridan, we maybe wanted him on a year long loan or permanently but Sofia were only willing to let him go for 6 months, maybe CC did get fed up of Sofia and Sheridan mucking us around, but none of us know what actually happened.

I think it's because, reading between the lines, the club has passed up the opportunity to sign a player who the support were excited about, the manager wanted and who the squad desperately needed in the short term at least, because of what can only be assumed to be an affordable gap in valuation. (I assume the gap was affordable owing to the fact that we were gazzumped by a club with less than a third of our average attendance - also the demands of CSKA Sofia were universally described in the press as modest).

This decision seems indicative of a prevailing attitude which values the state of the accounts higher than the well-being of the football team on the park. I would say that on this occasion this is a misguided approach as the health of the account balance is inextricably connected to the wellbeing of the team on the park. The club have taken the plaudits for getting things right in the past - well on this occasion I'd say they got it disasterously wrong.

The support feel cheated because the squad is paper thin on the eve of our first game of the season while circa 7000 have splashed out a considerable sum on season tickets - that's SEASON tickets - and the season starts tomorrow with a severeley understrength Hibs squad that the management/board have evidently passed up the opportunity to strengthen at reasonable cost.

The fact that Sofia only wanted to loan Sheridan for 6 months should in no way have been a deal breaker IMO - we desperately NEED at least one striker in the short term so in that respect our requirements would have been unequivocably met. Despite the statement issued stating Hibs had dropped their interest, I can't help suspecting that the collapse of the deal had more to do with catastrophic blunders on the part of the Hibs negotiating team than any sudden change of heart about the qualities of the player and his desire to play for Hibs.

[basehibby]

.... and on the subject of the OP - Agogo certainly looks like he's made of the right stuff - really hope we get him signed.

[Lago]

.... and on the subject of the OP - Agogo certainly looks like he's made of the right stuff - really hope we get him signed.

Begining to wonder about Agogo, this seems again to be one that has been on the go for a bit too long for my liking, just feel that it's going to be another one that gets away.

[aliman82]

Begining to wonder about Agogo, this seems again to be one that has been on the go for a bit too long for my liking, just feel that it's going to be another one that gets away.

Dunno what we can do to hurry along international clearance tho (which seems to be the stumbling block at the mo)?

[HibbyRod]

The problem is that 90% of hibs fans do have genuine concerns for our prospects in the coming season and are either reasonably discussing the problems that exist at the club or putting a brave face on it and looking for the positives wherever we find them at least until the season kicks off and we see how the team copes.

The other 10% are the ones who revel in negativity, take every single opportunity to criticise the club. the manager, the players, the board and other fans or twist statements and situations into sticks with which to beat the club and generally let the whole world know how s**t the team, the club life and the universe actually is.........This 10% are the ones who are shouting the longest and loudest at the moment and crushing any possible glimmer of hope or motivation that reasonable people are holding onto.

The club have got rid of every single player that was ever moaned about last season.............but now our squad is too small to cope with a full season in the SPL.

We've had too many managers in the last ten years so the club have taken a stance to retain Calderwood as our manager................but apparently the preferred option is to sack him and go through the whole process again.

Had we been told in March that we would have O'Connor, Sproule and O'Hanlon signed up for next season we would be ecstatic................now they are washed up, injury prone has beens who couldnt get a contract anywhere else.

We have got the makings of the golden generation mk2 with the number of youth players promoted to and holding down places in the first team at the moment......................but they arent good enough to be in the squad and we should fill the team with more third rate journeymen to sit on the bench most of the time rather than giving these boys gametime (see point number 1 for the result of this tactic)

Our season is starting ridiculously early and we're not fully equipped yet thanks to us being in the market for players that will only be available to us once the bigger clubs have done thier summer shopping and decided on releasing/loaning/selling players when thier seasons start and we still have 5 weeks before the transfer window ends........................but we should have taken someone, anyone just to be in the squad for the SPL season kicking off to make up the numbers rather than targeting the quality of players that we have often got toward the end of the window in previous seasons (stokes, Riordan, Bamba etc)

The club are being more open with the fans, we have confirmed transfer targets before a deal was concluded to keep the fans up to date and show that work was being done, we've had statements released by the club to give updates on situation that are being reported in the media and discussed on here that the club dont have to comment on and havent previously, we've got directors of the club being sent e-mails and letters from fans that would have solicited an automated generic message in response previously but are now getting replies addressing thier concerns, telephone conversations with Fife Hyland and invitations to go and meet with him at the club to discuss the situation................yet every single one of these things has been turned around as a negative. The sheridan situation: we wouldn't have even known about him being on trial before but now that we do when it doesnt work out everyone is up in arms about it and berating the club for not signing him. We've identified Agogo and everyone is getting frustrated at the lengthy process of getting international clearance saying the club should have done this ages ago when before we would have been none the wiser about this until he was revealed as being signed and Fife Hyland being criticised for his responses and defence of the club and the work he and the board of directors are doing not to mention the stuff that is bordering on personal attacks on the characters of Rod Petrie, Sir Tom Farmer and Fife himself.

Yes that are problems, even the happiest of clappers out there (yes im looking at you Matty) isnt denying that there are major concerns but the constant negativity is just out of control.

:top marksMyJo

[GloryGlory]

Any news yet on Agogo signing? Will he play against Blackpool?

[Cropley10]

The problem is that 90% of hibs fans do have genuine concerns for our prospects in the coming season and are either reasonably discussing the problems that exist at the club or putting a brave face on it and looking for the positives wherever we find them at least until the season kicks off and we see how the team copes.

The other 10% are the ones who revel in negativity, take every single opportunity to criticise the club. the manager, the players, the board and other fans or twist statements and situations into sticks with which to beat the club and generally let the whole world know how s**t the team, the club life and the universe actually is.........This 10% are the ones who are shouting the longest and loudest at the moment and crushing any possible glimmer of hope or motivation that reasonable people are holding onto.

The club have got rid of every single player that was ever moaned about last season.............but now our squad is too small to cope with a full season in the SPL.

We've had too many managers in the last ten years so the club have taken a stance to retain Calderwood as our manager................but apparently the preferred option is to sack him and go through the whole process again.

Had we been told in March that we would have O'Connor, Sproule and O'Hanlon signed up for next season we would be ecstatic................now they are washed up, injury prone has beens who couldnt get a contract anywhere else.

We have got the makings of the golden generation mk2 with the number of youth players promoted to and holding down places in the first team at the moment......................but they arent good enough to be in the squad and we should fill the team with more third rate journeymen to sit on the bench most of the time rather than giving these boys gametime (see point number 1 for the result of this tactic)

Our season is starting ridiculously early and we're not fully equipped yet thanks to us being in the market for players that will only be available to us once the bigger clubs have done thier summer shopping and decided on releasing/loaning/selling players when thier seasons start and we still have 5 weeks before the transfer window ends........................but we should have taken someone, anyone just to be in the squad for the SPL season kicking off to make up the numbers rather than targeting the quality of players that we have often got toward the end of the window in previous seasons (stokes, Riordan, Bamba etc)

The club are being more open with the fans, we have confirmed transfer targets before a deal was concluded to keep the fans up to date and show that work was being done, we've had statements released by the club to give updates on situation that are being reported in the media and discussed on here that the club dont have to comment on and havent previously, we've got directors of the club being sent e-mails and letters from fans that would have solicited an automated generic message in response previously but are now getting replies addressing thier concerns, telephone conversations with Fife Hyland and invitations to go and meet with him at the club to discuss the situation................yet every single one of these things has been turned around as a negative. The sheridan situation: we wouldn't have even known about him being on trial before but now that we do when it doesnt work out everyone is up in arms about it and berating the club for not signing him. We've identified Agogo and everyone is getting frustrated at the lengthy process of getting international clearance saying the club should have done this ages ago when before we would have been none the wiser about this until he was revealed as being signed and Fife Hyland being criticised for his responses and defence of the club and the work he and the board of directors are doing not to mention the stuff that is bordering on personal attacks on the characters of Rod Petrie, Sir Tom Farmer and Fife himself.

Yes that are problems, even the happiest of clappers out there (yes im looking at you Matty) isnt denying that there are major concerns but the constant negativity is just out of control.

Had you told me in March with Sproule GOC and someone called O'Hanlon I certainly wouldnt have been ectastic, far, far, from it. In fact I'd have wondered what was going on, which is what I feel now. CC talked about signings in early and whilst you might argue you don't turn GoC away, he's only hear for a year. It's been a pathetic preseason IMHO.

[RIP]

Met Junior Agogo at Easter Road on Sunday. He turned out to be a really nice lad

He shook hands with my 2 laddies. Said how he much he is looking forward to playing for us and it's clear he's already good mates with big Akpo. Junior has a fair bit of muscle on him and like Akpo, looks capable of a turn of speed.

My lads can't wait to see him in a Hibs shirt and it sounds like Junior can't wait either

On a separate note I checked with my Perth workmates how Sheridan got on at Pittodrie

"Huddy", "Donkey", "Spent most of the game on his backside" were among the more favourable comments

[Cropley10]

Met Junior Agogo at Easter Road on Sunday. He turned out to be a really nice lad

He shook hands with my 2 laddies. Said how he much he is looking forward to playing for us and it's clear he's already good mates with big Akpo. Junior has a fair bit of muscle on him and like Akpo, looks capable of a turn of speed.

My lads can't wait to see him in a Hibs shirt and it sounds like Junior can't wait either

On a separate note I checked with my Perth workmates how Sheridan got on at Pittodrie

"Huddy", "Donkey", "Spent most of the game on his backside" were among the more favourable comments

What's the hold up?

[RIP]

What's the hold up?

My understanding is he came to us claiming to be a free agent. He was last at a Cypriot club but had a long-running disoute with his previous club in Cairo

Given the situation Rod had with Merounne Zemmama we have to be careful we get international clearance BEFORE we sign him.

He's also got a bit of previous but as we know Rodney seems to like his bad boys :devil:

[Aldo]

The sooner he, another CF and a RB sign the bloody better IMHO.

[MacBean]

The sooner he, another CF and a RB sign the bloody better IMHO.
and everyone elses...:agree:

[Eaststand]

The problem is that 90% of hibs fans do have genuine concerns for our prospects in the coming season and are either reasonably discussing the problems that exist at the club or putting a brave face on it and looking for the positives wherever we find them at least until the season kicks off and we see how the team copes.

The other 10% are the ones who revel in negativity, take every single opportunity to criticise the club. the manager, the players, the board and other fans or twist statements and situations into sticks with which to beat the club and generally let the whole world know how s**t the team, the club life and the universe actually is.........This 10% are the ones who are shouting the longest and loudest at the moment and crushing any possible glimmer of hope or motivation that reasonable people are holding onto.

The club have got rid of every single player that was ever moaned about last season.............but now our squad is too small to cope with a full season in the SPL.

We've had too many managers in the last ten years so the club have taken a stance to retain Calderwood as our manager................but apparently the preferred option is to sack him and go through the whole process again.

Had we been told in March that we would have O'Connor, Sproule and O'Hanlon signed up for next season we would be ecstatic................now they are washed up, injury prone has beens who couldnt get a contract anywhere else.

We have got the makings of the golden generation mk2 with the number of youth players promoted to and holding down places in the first team at the moment......................but they arent good enough to be in the squad and we should fill the team with more third rate journeymen to sit on the bench most of the time rather than giving these boys gametime (see point number 1 for the result of this tactic)

Our season is starting ridiculously early and we're not fully equipped yet thanks to us being in the market for players that will only be available to us once the bigger clubs have done thier summer shopping and decided on releasing/loaning/selling players when thier seasons start and we still have 5 weeks before the transfer window ends........................but we should have taken someone, anyone just to be in the squad for the SPL season kicking off to make up the numbers rather than targeting the quality of players that we have often got toward the end of the window in previous seasons (stokes, Riordan, Bamba etc)

The club are being more open with the fans, we have confirmed transfer targets before a deal was concluded to keep the fans up to date and show that work was being done, we've had statements released by the club to give updates on situation that are being reported in the media and discussed on here that the club dont have to comment on and havent previously, we've got directors of the club being sent e-mails and letters from fans that would have solicited an automated generic message in response previously but are now getting replies addressing thier concerns, telephone conversations with Fife Hyland and invitations to go and meet with him at the club to discuss the situation................yet every single one of these things has been turned around as a negative. The sheridan situation: we wouldn't have even known about him being on trial before but now that we do when it doesnt work out everyone is up in arms about it and berating the club for not signing him. We've identified Agogo and everyone is getting frustrated at the lengthy process of getting international clearance saying the club should have done this ages ago when before we would have been none the wiser about this until he was revealed as being signed and Fife Hyland being criticised for his responses and defence of the club and the work he and the board of directors are doing not to mention the stuff that is bordering on personal attacks on the characters of Rod Petrie, Sir Tom Farmer and Fife himself.

Yes that are problems, even the happiest of clappers out there (yes im looking at you Matty) isnt denying that there are major concerns but the constant negativity is just out of control.



Cracking post that one bud and you cover all the main issues very well........I agree 100% with every word in your post

GGTTH

[FranckSuzy]

The problem is that 90% of hibs fans do have genuine concerns for our prospects in the coming season and are either reasonably discussing the problems that exist at the club or putting a brave face on it and looking for the positives wherever we find them at least until the season kicks off and we see how the team copes.

The other 10% are the ones who revel in negativity, take every single opportunity to criticise the club. the manager, the players, the board and other fans or twist statements and situations into sticks with which to beat the club and generally let the whole world know how s**t the team, the club life and the universe actually is.........This 10% are the ones who are shouting the longest and loudest at the moment and crushing any possible glimmer of hope or motivation that reasonable people are holding onto.

The club have got rid of every single player that was ever moaned about last season.............but now our squad is too small to cope with a full season in the SPL.

We've had too many managers in the last ten years so the club have taken a stance to retain Calderwood as our manager................but apparently the preferred option is to sack him and go through the whole process again.

Had we been told in March that we would have O'Connor, Sproule and O'Hanlon signed up for next season we would be ecstatic................now they are washed up, injury prone has beens who couldnt get a contract anywhere else.

We have got the makings of the golden generation mk2 with the number of youth players promoted to and holding down places in the first team at the moment......................but they arent good enough to be in the squad and we should fill the team with more third rate journeymen to sit on the bench most of the time rather than giving these boys gametime (see point number 1 for the result of this tactic)

Our season is starting ridiculously early and we're not fully equipped yet thanks to us being in the market for players that will only be available to us once the bigger clubs have done thier summer shopping and decided on releasing/loaning/selling players when thier seasons start and we still have 5 weeks before the transfer window ends........................but we should have taken someone, anyone just to be in the squad for the SPL season kicking off to make up the numbers rather than targeting the quality of players that we have often got toward the end of the window in previous seasons (stokes, Riordan, Bamba etc)

The club are being more open with the fans, we have confirmed transfer targets before a deal was concluded to keep the fans up to date and show that work was being done, we've had statements released by the club to give updates on situation that are being reported in the media and discussed on here that the club dont have to comment on and havent previously, we've got directors of the club being sent e-mails and letters from fans that would have solicited an automated generic message in response previously but are now getting replies addressing thier concerns, telephone conversations with Fife Hyland and invitations to go and meet with him at the club to discuss the situation................yet every single one of these things has been turned around as a negative. The sheridan situation: we wouldn't have even known about him being on trial before but now that we do when it doesnt work out everyone is up in arms about it and berating the club for not signing him. We've identified Agogo and everyone is getting frustrated at the lengthy process of getting international clearance saying the club should have done this ages ago when before we would have been none the wiser about this until he was revealed as being signed and Fife Hyland being criticised for his responses and defence of the club and the work he and the board of directors are doing not to mention the stuff that is bordering on personal attacks on the characters of Rod Petrie, Sir Tom Farmer and Fife himself.

Yes that are problems, even the happiest of clappers out there (yes im looking at you Matty) isnt denying that there are major concerns but the constant negativity is just out of control.

Superb, well constructed post :top marks

[Dalianwanda]

The problem is that 90% of hibs fans do have genuine concerns for our prospects in the coming season and are either reasonably discussing the problems that exist at the club or putting a brave face on it and looking for the positives wherever we find them at least until the season kicks off and we see how the team copes.

The other 10% are the ones who revel in negativity, take every single opportunity to criticise the club. the manager, the players, the board and other fans or twist statements and situations into sticks with which to beat the club and generally let the whole world know how s**t the team, the club life and the universe actually is.........This 10% are the ones who are shouting the longest and loudest at the moment and crushing any possible glimmer of hope or motivation that reasonable people are holding onto.

The club have got rid of every single player that was ever moaned about last season.............but now our squad is too small to cope with a full season in the SPL.

We've had too many managers in the last ten years so the club have taken a stance to retain Calderwood as our manager................but apparently the preferred option is to sack him and go through the whole process again.

Had we been told in March that we would have O'Connor, Sproule and O'Hanlon signed up for next season we would be ecstatic................now they are washed up, injury prone has beens who couldnt get a contract anywhere else.

We have got the makings of the golden generation mk2 with the number of youth players promoted to and holding down places in the first team at the moment......................but they arent good enough to be in the squad and we should fill the team with more third rate journeymen to sit on the bench most of the time rather than giving these boys gametime (see point number 1 for the result of this tactic)

Our season is starting ridiculously early and we're not fully equipped yet thanks to us being in the market for players that will only be available to us once the bigger clubs have done thier summer shopping and decided on releasing/loaning/selling players when thier seasons start and we still have 5 weeks before the transfer window ends........................but we should have taken someone, anyone just to be in the squad for the SPL season kicking off to make up the numbers rather than targeting the quality of players that we have often got toward the end of the window in previous seasons (stokes, Riordan, Bamba etc)

The club are being more open with the fans, we have confirmed transfer targets before a deal was concluded to keep the fans up to date and show that work was being done, we've had statements released by the club to give updates on situation that are being reported in the media and discussed on here that the club dont have to comment on and havent previously, we've got directors of the club being sent e-mails and letters from fans that would have solicited an automated generic message in response previously but are now getting replies addressing thier concerns, telephone conversations with Fife Hyland and invitations to go and meet with him at the club to discuss the situation................yet every single one of these things has been turned around as a negative. The sheridan situation: we wouldn't have even known about him being on trial before but now that we do when it doesnt work out everyone is up in arms about it and berating the club for not signing him. We've identified Agogo and everyone is getting frustrated at the lengthy process of getting international clearance saying the club should have done this ages ago when before we would have been none the wiser about this until he was revealed as being signed and Fife Hyland being criticised for his responses and defence of the club and the work he and the board of directors are doing not to mention the stuff that is bordering on personal attacks on the characters of Rod Petrie, Sir Tom Farmer and Fife himself.

Yes that are problems, even the happiest of clappers out there (yes im looking at you Matty) isnt denying that there are major concerns but the constant negativity is just out of control.

Great Post!