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Diclonius
14-07-2011, 02:51 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14143711.stm

Oh dear.

MyJo
14-07-2011, 02:57 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14143711.stm

Oh dear.

They willl probably end up in the same group as scotland and hump us in that case :rolleyes:

The_Todd
14-07-2011, 05:36 PM
Seeding is evil. Guaranteed to keep the big boys happy.

Sir David Gray
14-07-2011, 06:19 PM
As things stand, the pots will contain the following nations;

Pot One

Spain
Netherlands
Germany
England
Italy
Portugal
Croatia
Norway
Greece

Pot Two

France
Montenegro
Russia
Sweden
Denmark
Slovenia
Turkey
Serbia
Slovakia

Pot Three

Switzerland
Israel
Ireland
Belgium
Czech Republic
Bosnia
Belarus
Ukraine
Hungary

Pot Four

Bulgaria
Romania
Georgia
Lithuania
Albania
Scotland
Northern Ireland
Austria
Poland

Pot Five

Armenia
Finland
Estonia
Cyprus
Latvia
Moldova
Macedonia
Azerbaijan
Faroe Islands

Pot Six

Wales
Liechtenstein
Iceland
Kazakhstan
Luxembourg
Malta
Andorra
San Marino

Best draw for Scotland?

Norway
Slovakia
Hungary
Scotland
Faroe Islands
San Marino

Obviously all that could change in a couple of weeks when the rankings will be updated.

CallumLaidlaw
14-07-2011, 06:54 PM
Guaranteed Scotland will get a group of 5 with Spain or Italy in it.

Frogga
14-07-2011, 07:45 PM
Appart from getting on our tits, what have the Faroe Islands done to merit being above Wales?

Not that I'm bothered, it's funny that they are.

SteveHFC
14-07-2011, 07:53 PM
As things stand, the pots will contain the following nations;

Pot One

Spain
Netherlands
Germany
England
Italy
Portugal
Croatia
Norway
Greece

Pot Two

France
Montenegro
Russia
Sweden
Denmark
Slovenia
Turkey
Serbia
Slovakia

Pot Three

Switzerland
Israel
Ireland
Belgium
Czech Republic
Bosnia
Belarus
Ukraine
Hungary

Pot Four

Bulgaria
Romania
Georgia
Lithuania
Albania
Scotland
Northern Ireland
Austria
Poland

Pot Five

Armenia
Finland
Estonia
Cyprus
Latvia
Moldova
Macedonia
Azerbaijan
Faroe Islands

Pot Six

Wales
Liechtenstein
Iceland
Kazakhstan
Luxembourg
Malta
Andorra
San Marino

Best draw for Scotland?

Norway
Slovakia
Hungary
Scotland
Faroe Islands
San Marino

Obviously all that could change in a couple of weeks when the rankings will be updated.

Norway
Slovenia
Hungary
Scotland
Faroe Islands
San Marino

DH1875
14-07-2011, 09:44 PM
Appart from getting on our tits, what have the Faroe Islands done to merit being above Wales?

Not that I'm bothered, it's funny that they are.


I wouldn't laugh. Wont be long till we're in there with them.

MyJo
14-07-2011, 09:48 PM
As things stand, the pots will contain the following nations;

Pot One

Spain
Netherlands
Germany
England
Italy
Portugal
Croatia
Norway
Greece

Pot Two

France
Montenegro
Russia
Sweden
Denmark
Slovenia
Turkey
Serbia
Slovakia

Pot Three

Switzerland
Israel
Ireland
Belgium
Czech Republic
Bosnia
Belarus
Ukraine
Hungary

Pot Four

Bulgaria
Romania
Georgia
Lithuania
Albania
Scotland
Northern Ireland
Austria
Poland

Pot Five

Armenia
Finland
Estonia
Cyprus
Latvia
Moldova
Macedonia
Azerbaijan
Faroe Islands

Pot Six

Wales
Liechtenstein
Iceland
Kazakhstan
Luxembourg
Malta
Andorra
San Marino

Best draw for Scotland?

Norway
Slovakia
Hungary
Scotland
Faroe Islands
San Marino

Obviously all that could change in a couple of weeks when the rankings will be updated.

Most likely draw for scotland:

Spain
France
Czech Republic
Scotland
Faroe Islands (we always get them)
Wales

Hainan Hibs
15-07-2011, 03:11 PM
It's annoying we've dropped to Pot 4 as there are some tidy teams in Pot 3, the Belgians are on the up again and the Swiss are nae bad themselves. however, I do have confidence is us beating anyone at Hampden.

Hopefully we can get a good draw, the thoughts of a trip to Brazil are already getting me excited:thumbsup:

HibsMax
15-07-2011, 03:17 PM
Can someone explain how the draw works? Or provide a link giving the same info?

Hibeesb0unc3
15-07-2011, 04:06 PM
Can someone explain how the draw works? Or provide a link giving the same info?

basically the draw works with most qualifying groups having one team from each pot giving them 6 teams although some groups only have five teams in them due to an uneven number of countries and if a european county/ies are hosting the competition.

Looking at the pots in one group we could have:

Scotland
England
Ireland
Wales

obviously there will be another team or two but that would be a good group for fans especially against england:agree:

Sylar
15-07-2011, 04:34 PM
Can someone explain how the draw works? Or provide a link giving the same info?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%28UEFA%29

HibsMax
15-07-2011, 04:54 PM
Thanks, Guys.

Sir David Gray
15-07-2011, 05:54 PM
Can someone explain how the draw works? Or provide a link giving the same info?

As provided yesterday, the 53 nations which are governed by UEFA are split into 6 pots. The first 5 pots have 9 nations in them, with pot 6 containing 8 nations. Pot 1 contains the highest ranked teams according to the FIFA world rankings with pot 6 containing the lowest ranked teams.

When the draw is done for the European qualifying section for the 2014 World Cup, there will be 9 different groups.

Eight of the groups will contain six nations and one group will contain five nations.

Each of the eight groups of six will contain one nation from each pot and the one group of five will also contain one nation from each pot, with the exception of pot six, the pot containing the so called weakest teams.

After the qualification period has ended, the nine group winners will qualify automatically for Brazil 2014 and the eight best second placed sides will go into a 2 legged play off. The four winners of the play offs will also qualify for Brazil 2014, meaning that there will be 13 European nations in the World Cup in 2014.

Hope that helps.

Woody1985
15-07-2011, 06:12 PM
I read that a guy from the faroes spotted the mistake in the calculation which meant they moved up and that put Wales down.

I wonder how many other teams were ranked incorrectly.

Sean1875
27-07-2011, 10:47 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14306211.stm

Its official, Wales will be in the final pot for the draw.

Speedway
27-07-2011, 01:32 PM
Based on previous years we'll get:

Spain
France
Brazil
Germany
All Star Select XI
Scotland

sunshine1875
27-07-2011, 08:23 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14306211.stm

Its official, Wales will be in the final pot for the draw.

The chap who runs this website http://www.football-rankings.info/ says that Wales would have a higher ranking had they played someone in June and, of course, beaten them. As he says, they could have played any team in the World, such as American Samoa and if they had won they would have been in Pot 5, above the Faroe Islands. Surely a mistake by the Welsh FA.

Bristolhibby
27-07-2011, 10:48 PM
Guaranteed Scotland will get a group of 5 with Spain or Italy in it.

That is my nightmare, and guaranteed it will happen.

J

Sylar
28-07-2011, 06:22 AM
Scottish FA officials would need to seriously ask questions, as that would have been the last 3 qualification groups in a row where we were drawn into a group of 5!

I'd like to see A but will predict B:

Group A:

Germany
Slovenia
Switzerland
SCOTLAND
Finland
Luxembourg

Group B:

Netherlands
Sweden
Czech Republic
SCOTLAND
Faroe Islands
Iceland

Sir David Gray
28-07-2011, 02:38 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14306211.stm

Its official, Wales will be in the final pot for the draw.

The pots which I stated a couple of weeks ago contain all the same nations, despite the new rankings being announced yesterday before the draw takes place at the weekend.

The only difference is that Portugal are now the fifth ranked side in Europe and Italy are sixth.

Phil MaGlass
29-07-2011, 12:34 PM
Anyone but Holland or Spain please.

Leithenhibby
29-07-2011, 12:49 PM
And can we watch all the fun unfold on TV? :wink:

Mikey
29-07-2011, 02:06 PM
What time does the draw take place?

PatHead
29-07-2011, 02:07 PM
From 2.00pm on Radio Scotland. Great will get Chicks expert insight.

TRC
29-07-2011, 07:03 PM
Also didn't see it mentioned but Georgia and Russia can't be drawn together because of political unrest. They'll need to borrow the ball warmer from the Old firm FA

Dashing Bob S
29-07-2011, 08:05 PM
The sad truth is that it doesn't matter a jot. If we could only play teams from lowest seeded pot we still wouldn't qualify.

Our natural lack of talent at football, compounded by poor decision making from that Jambo clown would see to that.

R'Albin
29-07-2011, 08:09 PM
Also didn't see it mentioned but Georgia and Russia can't be drawn together because of political unrest. They'll need to borrow the ball warmer from the Old firm FA

Can't we just cause political unrest with France, Germany, Spain, Portugal and Italy?:greengrin

SteveHFC
29-07-2011, 11:39 PM
I hope we get England. :agree:

HibeeMackenzie
30-07-2011, 08:18 AM
As things stand, the pots will contain the following nations;

Pot One

Spain
Netherlands
Germany
England
Italy
Portugal
Croatia
Norway
Greece

Pot Two

France
Montenegro
Russia
Sweden
Denmark
Slovenia
Turkey
Serbia
Slovakia

Pot Three

Switzerland
Israel
Ireland
Belgium
Czech Republic
Bosnia
Belarus
Ukraine
Hungary

Pot Four

Bulgaria
Romania
Georgia
Lithuania
Albania
Scotland
Northern Ireland
Austria
Poland

Pot Five

Armenia
Finland
Estonia
Cyprus
Latvia
Moldova
Macedonia
Azerbaijan
Faroe Islands

Pot Six

Wales
Liechtenstein
Iceland
Kazakhstan
Luxembourg
Malta
Andorra
San Marino

Best draw for Scotland?

Norway
Slovakia
Hungary
Scotland
Faroe Islands
San Marino

Obviously all that could change in a couple of weeks when the rankings will be updated.

what id like
Greece
Slovenia
Belarus
Scotland
Cyprus
Malta

what we will get
England
Russia
Ukraine
Scotland
Finland
Lichtenstein

Sean1875
30-07-2011, 09:54 AM
Anyone know what time the actual draw starts roughly? I know coverage starts at 7 but to save me the torture of watching all the pre-draw build up pish..

greenlex
30-07-2011, 10:01 AM
Anyone know what time the actual draw starts roughly? I know coverage starts at 7 but to save me the torture of watching all the pre-draw build up pish.. 8.23