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hfc rd
06-06-2011, 10:25 PM
Apologies if a similar topic has been posted already. As some of you may know that the fixtures for the new season are going to be released next Fri. I am just wondering on who you guys would like Hibs to be up against for the first 3 games of the season and why?

I think we are going to start off the new campaign with a home game having started last season's one away to Motherwell. The first game of the season that I would like Hibs to be up against is Kilmarnock (H). The reason for this is because I think Killie really faded away when Mixu and Sammon departed and they kind of struggled. Plus they have been weakened even further with Hamill at Hearts now and Eremenko very likely to be away as well and it also looks very likely that Bryson and Taouil are going to be away as well. Plus they don't have the money to replace these players of the same or better calibre. So therefore they are there for the taking and hopefully a nice 3 points in our opening game to kickstart our season with a win in front of our fans.

The next game and I might get a bit of stick for this but I am willing to take it and I will once again give you a reason for this. I would go for Hearts (A). Yes I know what some of you guys may be thinking after reading that and you may think that I am completely insane for saying that I want Hearts at a very early stage of the season and that we have not won an Edinburgh Derby game in ages because we never seem to turn up. But remember Hearts enter the Europa League on the 28/7 and who knows they could be drawn away for the 1st leg to a team from the other side of Europe. There players will be shattered and their will be tiredness in that squad to exploit as they are not used to playing midweek European games and a domestic game 2-3 days later. They will only have 2 days or possibly 1 to prepare for an Edinburgh Derby while we will have a full week to get the tactics and fire the players up and with our players fully match fit. Some of the Hearts players will simply have one eye on Europe as it will be some of the players' first experience of playing in a European competition. There players will simply be rusty and just imagine a tired Grainger up against a raring to go Sproule? Quite nice, eh. They will be there for the taking and hopefully we get the bragging rights this time, so early in the season and it will be a massive confidence and morale booster to the players so early in the season.

So after that, we have a friendly game against Sunderland so the SPL game on the 6/8 will be be postponed. It will be a good game against Sunderland and the squad will gain plenty of experience and find out some weaknessess about themselves that they can work on by playing against EPL opposition and coming up against good players like Gyan. However back to the subject now. The third game of the season that I would like to see Hibs come up against is St Johnstone (H). The reason for this is quite simple. I really want to f***ing beat them. It is embarrasing for a club like Hibs that we have only beaten them, if I'm right, once in our last eight attempts and that was the first game between the sides when they were promoted back into the SPL two seasons ago. I just hope that the team will be aiming to set the recored straight as that is a very poor record against a much smaller club than us. They are beatable. Yes I know that they have signed four new players already but we will as well. It's just about making sure you bring the right players in the right positions in that are going to improve the squad. We don't want to bring in x, y and z just for the sake of it by saying YES, we have made a signing or two. As we all say, "WE WANT QUALITY, NOT QUANTITY. CC isn't going to want to bring in a player who he thinks isn't going to be an improvement on the current squad he has and just sign him for the sake of it because all of us are getting restless at the current inactivity by the club in the transfer window. It's not as if the season kicks off tomorrow. Don't worry guys, we will sign players before the start of the season as I don't think CC is that stupid by sticking with this current bunch for the meantime. He wants to sign the players that are on his shortlist, who he knows that are going to bring a bit of a feel good factor back at Hibs and improve this current team, but it will always go down to what the player wants and if he recives an offer that is three times better than ours elsewhere then we probably know what his response is going to be.

Apologies for going a bit off topic at the end there. Anyways those are the teams that I would like to see for our first 3 games of the season. What are yours and why?

Judas Iscariot
06-06-2011, 10:32 PM
Sellick, Huns then Mini Huns..

May aswell stick us in a bad mood right away :greengrin

SteveHFC
06-06-2011, 10:32 PM
Dunfermline (H)
Inverness (A)
Rangers (H)

blairwallace
06-06-2011, 11:20 PM
Dunfermline (H)
Inverness (A)
Rangers (H)

if we got Dunfermline it would be away would it not?
promoted teams get the first game of the season at home as well as who ever won the SPL?

i'd take Hearts away, motherwell home and aberdeen home

monktonharp
06-06-2011, 11:23 PM
now let's see:coffee:............who do we normally do well against,....how about...we can start by applauding the current champions onto our holy turf ,then atrip north to the highland capital,then the east end o' glesga. that should set us up nicely for the rest o' the season:rolleyes:

yekimevol
06-06-2011, 11:27 PM
(H) hearts - a game with some passion. So the lads can batter them about the park win and lift the doom and gloom
(A) rangers - just to get them out the road. There will be a little bit of buzz about them and there apparent signings.
(H) ICT - best play them before the new team has time to bed in.

i predict 7 points WDW

:cgwa:cgwa:cgwa

Diclonius
07-06-2011, 12:12 AM
For all those wanting a home derby, remember the first one next season will be away as the order is reversed every year.

With that in mind, I'd go for St Johnstone at home (get the monkey off our back), Hearts away (fed up with them always being the last fixture and waiting for donkey's only to get beat) and Aberdeen at home (always a fun game).

KWJ
07-06-2011, 01:30 AM
St. Mirren (H)
Kilmarnock (H)
Dunfermline (A).

9 points, awbodys happy. We're gonna split the OF.

scoopyboy
07-06-2011, 06:00 AM
(H) hearts - a game with some passion. So the lads can batter them about the park win and lift the doom and gloom
(A) rangers - just to get them out the road. There will be a little bit of buzz about them and there apparent signings.
(H) ICT - best play them before the new team has time to bed in.

i predict 7 points WDW

:cgwa:cgwa:cgwa

1st Hearts game away.

Zondervan
07-06-2011, 07:41 AM
Dunfermline away
Hearts home
Aberdeen home

StevieC
07-06-2011, 07:48 AM
now let's see:coffee:............who do we normally do well against,....how about...we can start by applauding the current champions onto our holy turf ,then atrip north to the highland capital,then the east end o' glesga. that should set us up nicely for the rest o' the season:rolleyes:

It looks like you are joking, but that is actually what I'd prefer.

It is games that we wouldn't be expected to win so if we got anything from them it would be a bonus. It also gives the team, which will have a lot of new faces in it, the chance to get some games under their belt before we start playing the teams that we really need to be taking points off.

frazeHFC
07-06-2011, 08:40 AM
Don't care who the first game is as long as it's away, as i am on holiday.

easty
07-06-2011, 09:07 AM
St Mirren (h)
Hearts (a)
Dunfermline (h)

We need to get points at the start of the season, or Hibs.net will go into meltdown calling for CC to be sacked.

Kojock
07-06-2011, 09:08 AM
Ill go for

Hearts (A)
Dundee Utd (H)
Aberdeen (H)
Kilmarnock (A)
St Johnstone (H)
Celtic (H)
Dunfermline (A)
ICT (A)
St Mirren (H)
Motherwell (A)
Rangers (H)

LancashireHibby
07-06-2011, 10:14 AM
We will end up with one of the ugly sisters on the weekend of 6th August as (I think?) they're the only other two clubs to have arranged a friendly for that weekend when we play Sunderland.

West Upper
07-06-2011, 08:46 PM
St Mirren (H)
Dunfermline (A)
Aberdeen (H)

sunshine1875
07-06-2011, 09:02 PM
For info, below is a Q&A from the Scotprem website that explains how the fixture list in 2010/11 was produced. And I thought the Rantic directors decided on fixtures first and then the rest fell into place. What the info below doesn't explain is why Hibs can go four to five weeks without a home game, then suddenly get two in six days!!!

Fixtures Q&A with Iain Blair

It is that time of year again. While we are all enjoying the World Cup action, we will have to put our vuvuzelas down for a moment and turn our attention back to domestic business – with the publication of the Clydesdale Bank Premier League fixtures for 2010/11 on Thursday morning at 9am.

scotprem.com spoke to Iain Blair, the SPL’s Company Secretary, and as he explains, it is a crucial task for the SPL, but is one that is not without its challenges.

“Putting together the fixture list has always been a complicated process but in recent years we have tried to do more to explain how it all works. There are always going to be issues and conflicts – that is one promise I can make! But if people understand the process they will be more likely to accept the outcomes.”

What role do the clubs have in the process?

“We have a group of club representatives who sit on the Fixtures Working Group. Celtic, Hearts, Hibernian, Kilmarnock and Rangers are all involved in this. They provide the SPL Board with their recommendations on issues like the start date of the season, how many midweek cards are to be used and what our priorities should be.
“From there, the SPL Board will instruct Neil and me to prepare the detailed fixture list. So, while the clubs don’t get the chance to review their individual games, they do set our objectives and let us know what the key things are we need to try and avoid.”

Is it true that a Canadian company are involved?

“Yes. Optimal Planning Solutions are specialists in this territory. Their software helps create the fixture list for leagues across North America, Europe and Australia and this is the third year we have worked with them.

“They have driven big improvements on how the fixtures are generated by allowing us to incorporate a range of different requests. They also programme in the level of priorities set by our clubs which the software takes into account when it creates the final fixture list. I am sure that the guys in Canada will also be looking forward to reading the latest conspiracy theories that will no doubt emerge about this year’s fixtures!”

There was a lot of criticism about the post-split fixtures last year, has this been taken on board?


“The split system does throw up issues and imbalances. These happen when a club who finished in the top six one year, finishes in the bottom six the next year or vice versa. But if Celtic, Dundee United, Hearts, Hibernian, Motherwell and Rangers finish in the top six this season then all clubs will play 19 home games and 19 away games. Also, if this happens, clubs in each half of the split will play their opponents twice at home and twice away.

“Most of the games have also been reversed from last season. For example, the first Old Firm derby was at Ibrox last year, so this year it will be at Celtic Park.”

Some clubs felt last year that they had a particularly difficult start to the season. Have you tried to avoid that?

“We raised this one with the Fixtures Working Group and the Board. They were clear with their instruction to us that we should not be making value judgements on what we think is an easy game or what is a difficult one. That is not our job. So, no, we don’t build that into our system.”

Why can clubs not play at home one week and away the next through the whole season?

“Well for a start that isn’t mathematically possible. What is possible is that you can try ensure that it happens at certain points of the season, like over the first four games, or the final four games running up to the split.

“There are a few more instances though where clubs will face back to back away games this season. This is a result of us accommodating some of the other requests from the clubs. For example, the clubs wanted to ensure a home game on Boxing Day or at the New Year card so that no clubs are away for both fixtures. As there is a game in between, this means that clubs either face two home games in a row or two away games in a row over that period. But they will benefit from having one home game on either of the lucrative festive dates.

“We also have a number of requests from clubs or from the police about avoiding games at certain stadiums on specific dates. Rugby internationals at Murrayfield can clash with Hearts home games for example.

“Also,in terms of the operational side of things, we have to avoid games being played in the same locality in Glasgow, Edinburgh and Dundee on the same day. Obviously as part of this we need to work with the SFL to co-ordinate things in Dundee.

“As soon as you factor all of these things in it can knock a club out of its home-away-home-away rhythm.

Will Craig Levein have any issues with the fixtures?

“That is a question for Craig but we do try and take the national side into account. A big issue in the past has been the scheduling of the Old Firm derbies. Hopefully the guys at the Scottish FA will appreciate that there won’t be an Old Firm derby either before or after any of the international dates next season.

“The Old Firm fans should look forward to another New Year derby though – we reintroduced them last year and this was popular. In fact all the local derbies will take place on the New Year card. This has the added benefit of minimising travel around this time of year.”

On the issue of travel, does having Inverness CT in the league throw up any issues?


“Well it is a fact that for most fans, Inverness is a bit further away than Falkirk. It’s an extra few hours up the A9 for the clubs in the central belt but we just have to deal with that. You need to put it in context though, down south you have Middlesbourgh and Portsmouth in the same division for example.

“We look at which clubs have had long journeys on midweek nights or at Christmas in recent seasons and try to avoid repeating them. But we can’t have Inverness CT playing away on all those dates, that wouldn’t be fair either.

“We welcome Inverness CT back into the SPL and wish them, and all the rest of the clubs, the best of luck for next season.”

HibeeSince85
07-06-2011, 10:20 PM
Millie at home to starts a good shout, could see a 3-0 dunno why!

Away to one of the uglies

Aberdeen at home

I'd want 6 minimum out if that.

Sloppy
07-06-2011, 11:16 PM
hopefully st.mirren home, aberdeen away
as im on holiday and miss the first 2 games!

sparkiedelpaco7
08-06-2011, 10:26 AM
St Johnstone (H)
Rangers (A)
Kilmarnock (H)