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Dashing Bob S
01-06-2011, 06:04 PM
Let's see what everybody thinketh.

HibsMax
01-06-2011, 06:34 PM
I'm torn. I like the idea of players being recognised if they are at the club their entire career but I'm not against players leaving to try and realise their dreams.

ScottB
01-06-2011, 06:36 PM
He was / is a fan, has spent many years at the club.

Sure, he went elsewhere. I for one don't begrudge anyone trying to maximise their earning potential, so I don't really care. If the club wants to honour him, fair enough.

johnbc70
01-06-2011, 07:06 PM
If the testimonial game is tied into a pre-season friendly or some sort of meaningful game then fair enough I might attend. I just cannot see myself shelling out £15 or whatever it will cost for a midweek game against what is likely to be a less than glamorous team. While I think Ian Murray has been a great player for the club I am sure he has been well paid for it, and was no doubt well paid at Rangers/Norwich as well so while football is a short career I am sure he has earned more than most on here ever will and to be honest I need the money more than he does. (yes i know a proportion is going to charity but it is not clear what that proportion is)

darwenhibby
01-06-2011, 07:11 PM
Could play Norwich as the game for him.

Kojock
01-06-2011, 07:15 PM
Why should anybody get a testimonial pay out ??

I worked for the same company for thirty years but didn't get a big pay off. Footballers get a handsome wage for what they do, I would be quite happy playing for Hibs for a grand a week.:rolleyes:

Keith_M
01-06-2011, 07:50 PM
Testimonials used to be for long term servants of a club, that would normally have been there for the whole, or at least most of their careers.

It also used to be the case that a testimonial would help said player in the time of his 'retirement', as the wages weren't that great.



I'm not sure exactly how that applies to Ian Murray :confused:

Andy74
01-06-2011, 07:53 PM
Neither really. Left us during his peak so shouldn't get a testimonial which for me should be for loyalty above the usual.

Also, for most of his career he's been pretty average. Hibby or not I've never taken to him.

Albion Hibs
01-06-2011, 08:16 PM
I think Murray is more than due a friendly. The fact that only 8 or so have had one in the history of the club shows how few players give 10 years to a club. I could not care less that it was over two spells and he chose to play for other teams.

For me this is a proud day for our club, and I would hope fans turn up to celebrate that fact, rather than pose some form of protest against one of our own.

NORTHERNHIBBY
01-06-2011, 08:22 PM
Why should anybody get a testimonial pay out ??<br />
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I worked for the same company for thirty years but didn't get a big pay off. Footballers
get a handsome wage for what they do, I would be quite happy playing for Hibs for a grand a week.<img src="images/smilies/rolleyes2.gif" border="0" alt="" title="rolleyes" smilieid="64" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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If Riordan signs another contract and then gets a testimonial, would you get there early and padlock the gates to stop people getting in??

Brizo
01-06-2011, 08:37 PM
If he had played for us for ten years uninterrupted and shown unstinting loyalty I could see why the club would award him a testimonial. But the blunt truth is that the only reason hes back at Hibs is because his career didnt pan out for him at the sticky buns or down south.

I can understand a player leaving for better money but to make that extra cash and then be be awarded a testimonial from the team you were happy to leave seems to me to be a real case of have your cake and eat it. Of course the testimonial could be a contractual arrangement which the cynic could argue is a neat wee move by clubs to get the fans to pay a players final wages.

Even in the relatively speaking financially poor SPL Murray will have made more in the last ten years than some working guys will make in their lifetime. Im not convinced testimonials are really necessary or morally right for someone like Murray who im guessing wont be needing to sign on when he hangs up his boots. Fair play that hes donating an amount to charity but will it be a substantial percentage or a contractually stipulated token amount.

I wont be attending.

ancient hibee
01-06-2011, 08:37 PM
I think Murray is more than due a friendly. The fact that only 8 or so have had one in the history of the club shows how few players give 10 years to a club. I could not care less that it was over two spells and he chose to play for other teams.

For me this is a proud day for our club, and I would hope fans turn up to celebrate that fact, rather than pose some form of protest against one of our own.
It doesn't show how few players give 10 years-it shows how few were ever given testimonials.Practically the whole of the title winning team(s)gave more than 10 years.Reilly went on strike to try and get one and finally received a very poorly attended game after he retired.

SRHibs
01-06-2011, 08:41 PM
He's a great servant to the club, but I wouldn't go as far as saying he 'bleeds green'. I think he'd be deserving of a testimonial if he had disregarded the money and stayed loyal to the club he supported as a boy. Not saying that I hold a grudge against him for going to Rangers, but I think because he made that move, he does not deserve a testimonial.

Bostonhibby
01-06-2011, 09:01 PM
He was / is a fan, has spent many years at the club.

Sure, he went elsewhere. I for one don't begrudge anyone trying to maximise their earning potential, so I don't really care. If the club wants to honour him, fair enough.

This is where I am on this one, I don't think we can judge testimonials in the way we used to in the current commercial world, I do think that one club loyal players or those who do 10 years continuously is still a fair benchmark.

There was also a time where the money from a testimonial was a significant part of setting a player up for life or at least their pension, fans knew that and wanted to help pay back their loyalty and to contribute to their future well being. Its not that now.

I have no problem the club recognising IM's contribution to the Hibs in both his spells, I haven't doubted that. I still won't forgive him for the way he went to the Huns but in the same commercial world I can see why it came about, I suspect if Hibs could match hte money he may have stayed as he is certainly a Hibs man.

The Tubs
01-06-2011, 11:01 PM
I think Murray is more than due a friendly. The fact that only 8 or so have had one in the history of the club shows how few players give 10 years to a club. I could not care less that it was over two spells and he chose to play for other teams.

For me this is a proud day for our club, and I would hope fans turn up to celebrate that fact, rather than pose some form of protest against one of our own.

I think Tortolano was contracted for 10 years and didn't get a testimonial. Mickey Weir was here for over ten (i think) but passed a spell at Millwall. I'm sure there are plenty more: Pat McGinlay, etc.

BSEJVT
02-06-2011, 05:43 AM
Not for me

Had he been here 10 years interrupted I would have said yes.

Seems to me like reward for a player who left us when he was on the up and returned when we were his only option and now expects us to make up the un-realised earning potential he had for himself.

I accept his right to look for better income in moving on the first time and have no doubt he is one of our own.

Yet so am I and I dont think I will get a testimonial from the club.

Exactly how much football has he played / will he play for Hibs in his second spell?

For the record he epitomises some of the things I want to see from a Hibs player on the park, so I am not an IM boo boy.