Champions League Final.

[RamblingJack]

I was hearing today that some people have paid £600 for a ticket for tonights game and it got me thinking,if Hibs were there instead of Man U how much would you be willing to pay for a ticket?

[hibee92]

Its a weird one because you hear about these people paying such and such to go to these games and you think "that's complete madness" but when it comes down to your team i think i'd do the exact same. :agree:

[Tricla]

£600 would be a bargain to see Hibs in the CL final.

[SteveHFC]

I would pay anything to see Hibs in the CL Final.

[LancashireHibby]

Mate of mine has paid £1,800 for a pair of tickets and seems to have got a good deal judging by some of the figures being banded out. Wouldn't rule out paying something like that myself if Hibs got to such a final, though I doubt it's a problem I'm likely to have soon!

[Jim44]

Jeff stelling just said that ticket sales came to £14M.

[scoopyboy]

Face value because as a season ticket holder I would be guaranteed one!!!!!!

However if it ever got to the stage where we had more season ticket holders than a finalists allocation then I would pay whatever was required. If it meant £2000, £3000 or even more it would be paid.

Folk on here would probably think nothing of paying over £10000 on a car, my argument would be you can buy a car anytime but Hibs aint getting to the final every year.

[Hibernian Verse]

What's everyone got on tonight? I stuck a fiver on Utd at 8/1 in February :agree:

[Barney McGrew]

Rooney and Hernandez start, Fletcher on the bench and Berbatov not involved at all.

Mascherano at CH for Barca, Abidal starts.

[Sodje_18]

Would pay any amount of money to see hibs in the CL league final :agree:

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Would be the most expensive derby game ever.

[Ryan91]

Just seen Lawro's comments on the BBC claiming 'Rooney could get in the Barca team' he truly is an erse. With Villa and Messi in the team, there is no way he'd get a game for them.

[HH81]

Mate of mine has paid £1,800 for a pair of tickets and seems to have got a good deal judging by some of the figures being banded out. Wouldn't rule out paying something like that myself if Hibs got to such a final, though I doubt it's a problem I'm likely to have soon!

Are you going Old Trafford tomorrow if so you up for a pint?

Good start by Manure at Wembley. I paid £86 for Carling Cup final this season, I'm told same ticket for this game was £300 face value.

[Betty Boop]

Fergie about to blow a gasket there ! lol

[whiskyhibby]

All Barcelona now could be 2 up Giggs looks embarresingly past it.................

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

1-0 Barca, well deserved.

[whiskyhibby]

1-0 Pedro for Barca, could be a doing.......................

[Betty Boop]

Pedro!

[SteveHFC]

1-0 :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Barney McGrew]

1-0 Pedro for Barca, could be a doing.......................

Fingers crossed :greengrin

Mon the fitba team.

[heretoday]

Barca get stronger and stronger. And it's there!

[Bayern Bru]

Excellent.
Now, another two goals for Barcelona and a consolation for Man Utd and I'll be very happy! :greengrin

[whiskyhibby]

Giggs looks like a Pub team player in this class of game........

[Saorsa]

boo

[Betty Boop]

Fantastic goal from Rooney.

[whiskyhibby]

1-1 Rooney.............................cracking goal

[SteveHFC]

1-1 F*** Off Rooney.

[Liam89]

Giggs looks like a Pub team player in this class of game........

Giggsy with the assist :thumbsup:

[Barney McGrew]

Offside.

Conveniently brushed under the carpet by the english commentary team.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Great goal from nowhere. We have a game now.

[whiskyhibby]

Giggsy with the assist :thumbsup:

Correct but he has been ****ing awful the whole game.................:agree::agree::agree::agree:: agree:

[Carheenlea]

Was looking a mismatch before Rooney`s great strike, Barcelona streets ahead, but game on now!

[scoopyboy]

1-1 Rooney.............................cracking goal

perfect pass from the pub team player

[heretoday]

Great match. Can't take me eyes off it.

[HH81]

Offside.

Conveniently brushed under the carpet by the english commentary team.

Not 100% sure it was offside, very close. However, if it had been a Barca goal like that then they would have been saying Manure have been robbed etc.

[Betty Boop]

Great match. Can't take me eyes off it.

Same ! Brilliant to watch ! :greengrin

[whiskyhibby]

perfect pass from the pub team player


To be honest even Colin Nish could have made that pass.....!!

:na na::na na::na na::na na::na na:

[scoopyboy]

To be honest even Colin Nish could have made that pass.....!!

:na na::na na::na na::na na::na na:

your losing street cred with every post

[whiskyhibby]

your losing street cred with every post


Just calling it as I see it...................

[scoopyboy]

Just calling it as I see it...................

granted

[whiskyhibby]

Barca should be 2 goals ahead so far

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Barcelona should be sponsored by Dairylee. Lovely wee triangles. Superb in posession but there is not a lot in their locker when it comes to the more physical aspects of the game.

[heretoday]

Half time already! I reckon United's defence will tire late on. Barca have to score from one of these quick forward moves.

[scoopyboy]

Barca should be 2 goals ahead so far

You don't win football games on points though as in boxing.

I want Man U to win but I think Barcelona will.

More than anything I want to see a good game of football and Man U give a better account of themselves than they did the last time.

So far it has been good.

[heretoday]

United need to get Giggs and Valencia off. Nani and Fletcher/Anderson to replace.

Barca have a guy called Afellay on the bench I'm looking forward to seeing at some point. He's fast.

[whiskyhibby]

You don't win football games on points though as in boxing.

I want Man U to win but I think Barcelona will.

More than anything I want to see a good game of football and Man U give a better account of themselves than they did the last time.

So far it has been good.


I placed all of my remaining v buttons (just about) on Man U as I thought they had a chance, but the first half, most of the Man U team just stood and watched Barca passing the ball past them. Barca are a class above and I think it will end 3 or 4 to 1 IF they score the next goal, Man U will then be drawn out and be hit on the counter...............

[Barney McGrew]

It's certainly lived up to it's billing so far.

I can see United sneaking a second and winning it now.

[whiskyhibby]

United need to get Giggs and Valencia off. Nani and Fletcher/Anderson to replace.

Barca have a guy called Afellay on the bench I'm looking forward to seeing at some point. He's fast.

Glad to see that someone else thinks Giggs has been poor, he has often been caught between two Barca players and oftenn hasn't even attempted to block passes, just watched them zip past him, he looks like he doesnt have the legs for a game of this class, which I have to say has been an absolute joy to watch

[whiskyhibby]

Vidic keeping Man U in the game ......................

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

You can see from this game, why Barca are not great at defending because they very rarely have to, in real game situations. Man Utd need to get the ball into the Barca box as often as possible.

[SteveHFC]

2-1 :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Saorsa]

Messi :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[HH81]

:top marks:thumbsup: Messi :aok:

[whiskyhibby]

2-1 Messi Cracker:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::th umbsup:

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Well deserved, yet again.

[Hibs Class]

Poor goalkeeping - should have saved it as nowhere near the corner of the goal

[heretoday]

Quick feet. Caught them napping.

[Barney McGrew]

Poor goalkeeping - should have saved it as nowhere near the corner of the goal

They were waiting for Barca to try and walk it in - Van Der Sar wasn't set for the shot in time.

[heretoday]

Time Valencia was booked. He's done nowt but foul.

[Betty Boop]

First goal in England anaw ! :greengrin

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Four white shirts doing what we are doing. Watching.

[Saorsa]

Time Valencia was booked. He's done nowt but foul.and another

[whiskyhibby]

Barca taking the p**s out of Man U at the moment

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Barca are taking the piss now

[whiskyhibby]

One way traffic..............................

[scoopyboy]

Barca taking the p**s out of Man U at the moment

Fergie needs to make changes and fast.

One way traffic.

[Hibs Class]

Barca deserve to win by 3-4 goals - hopefully they will.

[HH81]

The guy from the ITV just said.....' nobody can pretend that Barca don't deserve to be ahead' I can think of someone on here that would :greengrin

4-1 would be about right :agree:

[Barney McGrew]

Man Utd are beginning to look like they've given up.

[whiskyhibby]

3-1 Villa cracking goal , Game over...........

[Saorsa]

Outstanding :thumbsup:

[Barney McGrew]

Woop woop.

:aok:

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Barca are playing with the tempo of a team chasing a goal.

Game over now though.

[Hibs Class]

Super goal - Villa

[SteveHFC]

3-1 :not worth:not worth:not worth:not worth

[HH81]

Game over :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[whiskyhibby]

Barcelona should be sponsored by Dairylee. Lovely wee triangles. Superb in posession but there is not a lot in their locker when it comes to the more physical aspects of the game.

3-1 Aye right enough.....................

[scoopyboy]

I hope Barca keep going, brilliant to watch.

[whiskyhibby]

Rooney cracking chip there

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Men against boys. Best club team in my lifetime.

[whiskyhibby]

At last Man U seem to have woken up rather than watching the game pass by them......

[NaeTechnoHibby]

Barcelona should be sponsored by Dairylee. Lovely wee triangles. Superb in posession but there is not a lot in their locker when it comes to the more physical aspects of the game.

:confused:

I like Dairylee :thumbsup:

[sesoim]

Man Utd look about 4 or 5 players short. If the Glaziers hadn't put them in so much debt they could have afforded them.

[whiskyhibby]

I hope Barca keep going, brilliant to watch.

They truely are the Picasso's of the beautiful game :agree::agree::agree::agree:

[Betty Boop]

:confused:

I like Dairylee :thumbsup:

Aye, give me the non-physical team any day of the week. :greengrin

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Glad to see that someone else thinks Giggs has been poor, he has often been caught between two Barca players and oftenn hasn't even attempted to block passes, just watched them zip past him, he looks like he doesnt have the legs for a game of this class, which I have to say has been an absolute joy to watch

Seems to be a doubting Thomas re Giggs!

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

3-1 Aye right enough.....................<br />
<br />
The one time Man U put together a British style move with a bit of muscle they got a goal. They have not done that since.

[NaeTechnoHibby]

They truely are the Picasso's of the beautiful game :agree::agree::agree::agree:

I agree :thumbsup:

[whiskyhibby]

Man Utd look about 4 or 5 players short. If the Glaziers hadn't put them in so much debt they could have afforded them.


Sorry dont buy it.........There are far better players on the Man U bench than some on the field at the moment

[heretoday]

Paul Scholes! Cometh the hour.........!

[scoopyboy]

Scholes for a yellow card for those betting online

[whiskyhibby]

<br />
<br />
The one time Man U put together a British style move with a bit of muscle they got a goal. They have not done that since.

I dont believe in the cart horses over race horses theory myself...............

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

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I like Dairylee <img src="images/smilies/thumbs up.gif"

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So do I. Real p*sser when you don't get a real hold of the red bit, which makes them easy to open up. Barca have got a hold of the red bit tonight.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

They truely are the Picasso's of the beautiful game :agree::agree::agree::agree:

The movement off the ball is unbelievable!

[HH81]

Paul Scholes! Cometh the hour.........!

Yes he will be sent off in a minute :greengrin

[sesoim]

<br />
<br />
The one time Man U put together a British style move with a bit of muscle they got a goal. They have not done that since.


:agree: If Man Utd had had played a more British style, with a top quality target man to play the ball up to, I think they could have won - they'd certainly have put the Barca defence under more pressure. But as I said before, they haven't strengthened when and where they needed to thanks to the Glaziers and on the night, Barca have had it pretty easy.

[whiskyhibby]

Seems to be a doubting Thomas re Giggs!


A once great player completely out classed in this game

[heretoday]

The ref's done well keeping things going. He could have sent off Valencia ages ago.

[SteveHFC]

Where is FalkirkHibee :greengrin

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

<br />
<br />
So do I. Real p*sser when you don't get a real hold of the red bit, which makes them easy to open up. Barca have got a hold of the red bit tonight.

Had a wee chuckle at that! v good!

[HH81]

:agree: If Man Utd had had played a more British style, with a top quality target man to play the ball up to, I think they could have won - they'd certainly have put the Barca defence under more pressure. But as I said before, they haven't strengthened when and where they needed to thanks to the Glaziers and on the night, Barca have had it pretty easy.

:faf::faf: Lets blame the Glazors for Manure getting hammered tonight.

The fact of the matter is Barca are just twice as good as Manure. Simple really.

[heretoday]

If Pep G comes to the Prem it's going to be fascinating to see if he can build another team like Barca.

Someone will have to play the Messi role. Maybe Messi himself?

[SteveHFC]

Puyol Coming On

[sesoim]

:faf::faf: Lets blame the Glazors for Manure getting hammered tonight.

The fact of the matter is Barca are just twice as good as Manure. Simple really.


I'm not a huge fan of Man Utd myself. But they would be making £50M to £60M profit a season if it wasn't for all the debt and loan repayments. Plus they sold Ronaldo and barely spent any of that £80M. That probably amounts to over £300M. If you don't think Man Utd would be a better team with that kind of money to spend, the jokes on you.

[SteveHFC]

Champions :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::not worth

[whiskyhibby]

3-1 going on 6-1 completely out played..........................

[Saorsa]

Out played, Out classed, Out standing :thumbsup::thumbsup:

and a win at the bookies for me :partyhibb:partyhibb:partyhibb

[Hibs Class]

Best team (by many miles) won.

[HH81]

I'm not a huge fan of Man Utd myself. But they would be making £50M to £60M profit a season if it wasn't for all the debt and loan repayments. Plus they sold Ronaldo and barely spent any of that £80M. That probably amounts to over £300M. If you don't think Man Utd would be a better team with that kind of money to spend, the jokes on you.
How can you blame the Glazors? Did they make the ex owners sell up? The joke is clearly not on me. 3-1. Hammered. Deffo.

[Betty Boop]

Wonderful to watch, Barcelona well deserved winners ! :flag:

[whiskyhibby]

Wonderful to watch, Barcelona well deserved winners ! :flag:


Possibly the best club team ever?

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

A near perfect lesson in possesion and attacking football. Just superb. Sometimes football can be simple. Tonight the simple fact is that if you don't give your opponents the ball, you won't get beat.

[Betty Boop]

Possibly the best club team ever?

Aye ! :agree:

[SteveHFC]

Rio is gutted :faf::faf:

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

How much would Messi be worth? If Ronaldo was £80m last year. £150/£200m? Would anyone actually afford him?

[whiskyhibby]

To be fair all the Man U players are giving credit to Barca

Great game, Barca are a couple of levels above Englands best

[SteveHFC]

Rooney :faf:

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Viva el Barca. El mejor equipo siempre.

[heretoday]

Rooney did what he could but he was not assisted much by his team mates.

[Barney McGrew]

Possibly the best club team ever?

I don't think there's any possibly about it.

[James70]

It just shows that having a team full of midgets ain't neccessarily a bad thing, maybe Hibs should try it! :duck:

Barcelona would get kicked off the park if they played in the SPL.

[jdships]

A near perfect lesson in possession and attacking football all in all a pleasure to watch and a thoroughly deserved win

For the many on this forum who rabbit on about Hibs having "midgets" in midfield Barca didn't too badly with Messi pulling the strings and then Puyol coming on later.
Plus at least two others , whose names I can't remember , who are no more than five nine/ten

" Guid gear comes in sma' bulk "

:top marks

[jdships]

It just shows that having a team full of midgets ain't neccessarily a bad thing, maybe Hibs should try it! :duck:

Barcelona would get kicked off the park if they played in the SPL.


You just beat me to it :greengrin:flag:

[Shrekko]

Folk mocking Hibs fans who used to complain about our team full of midgets should remember that said midgets were Rankin, Chisholm, Stevenson and Kerr etc. Let's not get silly using Iniesta, Xavi etc., as proof that small is better- good is better, end off.

[HibbyAndy]

And to think the Manure fans on here were giving it big Licks because Barca knocked Arsenal out 4-3 on Aggregate, Throw in getting beat 2-1 at the Emirates.

F ecking delighed Manure got pumped tonight DE lighted!!!

[(((Fergus)))]

It just shows that having a team full of midgets ain't neccessarily a bad thing, maybe Hibs should try it! :duck:

Barcelona would get kicked off the park if they played in the SPL.

They would utterly humiliate our thugs.

[Iggy Pope]

Gary Neville. Was sure I was on Dave not SS1.

"Pique and Alves are not natural diffendohs....Giggs, Hernandes and Rooney will do soom damidge!"
Time he opened up that Working Mans Club at Trafford Park with his testimonial cheque right enough.
RIP Bernard Manning. Gone but sadly not forgotten.
:greengrin

[Barney McGrew]

And to think the Manure fans on here were giving it big Licks because Barca knocked Arsenal out 4-3 on Aggregate, Throw in getting beat 2-1 at the Emirates.

And yet they all seem to be posted missing tonight.

I wonder why :greengrin

[Dirkster23]

And to think the Manure fans on here were giving it big Licks because Barca knocked Arsenal out 4-3 on Aggregate, Throw in getting beat 2-1 at the Emirates.

F ecking delighed Manure got pumped tonight DE lighted!!!

Your comparing apples with pears Andy, Barca didn't have to win at the Emirates with it being a two leg tie :wink:

[Dirkster23]

Folk mocking Hibs fans who used to complain about our team full of midgets should remember that said midgets were Rankin, Chisholm, Stevenson and Kerr etc. Let's not get silly using Iniesta, Xavi etc., as proof that small is better- good is better, end off.

Spot on mate- having probably the 3 best midgets in the world's makes a difference :agree:

[HibbyAndy]

And yet they all seem to be posted missing tonight.

I wonder why :greengrin


Funny that eh :greengrin



Your comparing apples with pears Andy, Barca didn't have to win at the Emirates with it being a two leg tie :wink:

Spot on sir :agree:

But they certainly didnt have to, Or WANTED to get beat thats for sure at the Emirates , I told every man and his dug today Man u would get beat,And im happy to be proved right . Passed of the park .

[seanraff07]

There was only one ever one team who were going to win that, they ARE unstoppable when they are in the mood.

Nice touch from Barca letting Abidal lift the trophy :agree:

[Dirkster23]

Funny that eh :greengrin




Spot on sir :agree:

But they certainly didnt have to, Or WANTED to get beat thats for sure at the Emirates , I told every man and his dug today Man u would get beat,And im happy to be proved right . Passed of the park .

It takes a brave man to back the best team on the planet to win- i'm glad you were good enough to share the tip :wink:

[Dirkster23]

There was only one ever one team who were going to win that, they ARE unstoppable when they are in the mood.

Nice touch from Barca letting Abidal lift the trophy :agree:

Says a lot about a team with so many star players that they let him lift the cup :agree:

[jdships]

Folk mocking Hibs fans who used to complain about our team full of midgets should remember that said midgets were Rankin, Chisholm, Stevenson and Kerr etc. Let's not get silly using Iniesta, Xavi etc., as proof that small is better- good is better, end off.


Ask yourself another question:wink:
Were those you choose to mention any worse that the big guys who were in the same team.
Remember Reilly, O'rourke, Cropley,Bobby johnstone , Mcleod, Alex edwards - the list of five foot nine/ten's who played their part in Hibs teams over the years is endless .:greengrin

[hibsbollah]

Wonderful, wonderful performance. Better than the great AC Milan side of the late 80s now IMO. Barca are the best club side ive ever seen.

[seanraff07]

Says a lot about a team with so many star players that they let him lift the cup :agree:

:agree:... the way they are going they'll probably all get a turn each anyway!


bit like David goodwillie:greengrin

Oh yes, looking at some of the burds in Dundee last time we played there, they wouldn't complain :bitchy:

[Shrekko]

Ask yourself another question:wink:
Were those you choose to mention any worse that the big guys who were in the same team.
Remember Reilly, O'rourke, Cropley,Bobby johnstone , Mcleod, Alex edwards - the list of five foot nine/ten's who played their part in Hibs teams over the years is endless .:greengrin

I think you're backing up my point. Good players are good players. I'm not buying into the theory that because Messi, Iniesta and Xavi are small that we should target small players though.

Back to the game though- I was slightly surprised that Messi got man of the match tonight. He was fantastic and perhaps 8.5 out of 10, but Xavi and Iniesta for me both as close to perfect as you can get. These 2 have become under-rated because they play in the same team as the worlds best player.

[Iggy Pope]

Ask yourself another question:wink:
Were those you choose to mention any worse that the big guys who were in the same team.
Remember Reilly, O'rourke, Cropley,Bobby johnstone , Mcleod, Alex edwards - the list of five foot nine/ten's who played their part in Hibs teams over the years is endless .:greengrin

Mickey Weir, John Collins, Russell Latapy, John O'Neill.
For all of them and the above read Eddie Turnbull, Keith Wright, Alan Gordon, Pat Stanton, Franck Sauzee.
Quality over quantity wins hands down every single time. Height and girth is irrelevant.

[Dashing Bob S]

Wonderful, wonderful performance. Better than the great AC Milan side of the late 80s now IMO. Barca are the best club side ive ever seen.

Up there with the Hearts double side of '86.

[Dashing Bob S]

Where is FalkirkHibee :greengrin

He opted for watching gay porn instead, to see if he could be even more disgusted.

[Sylar]

Just finished watching the game.

Credit to the United players and coaches for their grace in losing at the end of that - they were more than willing to concede that Barcelona were far superior.

Best side to have ever graced world football by a country mile.

[lucky]

Barca are quality but Man utd gave a good account of themselves considering that Barca took 5 of Real Madrid when they were in similar form

[Hank Schrader]

I remember a thread a few years back where our old friend IvanDrago/RubyHibee stated that Cristiano Ronaldo "will be and possibly already is the greatest player ever" Oh how I laughed :tee hee:

At the time I pointed out the wonderful Diego Maradona was the greatest player ever. Tonight I seen someone who will end his footballing career with that accolade. It quite possibly could be argued he already is the greatest. I sometimes think the word genius doesn't do him justice.

That effeminate show pony at Real Madrid couldn't lace young Lionels boots.

[Hank Schrader]

he opted for watching gay porn instead, to see he if he could be even more disgusted.

:lol:

[Saorsa]

He opted for watching gay porn instead, to see he if he could be even more disgusted.:hilarious

Maybe he's been watching it for 3 days as he's no been on since he made that post :greengrin

[Frank Moon]

I remember a thread a few years back where our old friend IvanDrago/RubyHibee stated that Cristiano Ronaldo "will be and possibly already is the greatest player ever" Oh how I laughed :tee hee:

At the time I pointed out the wonderful Diego Maradona was the greatest player ever. Tonight I seen someone who will end his footballing career with that accolade. It quite possibly could be argued he already is the greatest. I sometimes think the word genius doesn't do him justice.

That effeminate show pony at Real Madrid couldn't lace young Lionels boots.

Different players so dont feel thats fair. Ronaldo is a great player in his own right. Personally Xavi for me is the best team player ever whereas the others are great as individuals

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

What did Fergie say in his post match interview? I missed it.

[givescotlandfreedom]

He got a bit touchy when asked about where Man United's problem areas were.
To be honest when you've just lost in the final of the biggest club competition of the world and get asked stupid questions like 'What's your verdict?' And 'How do you feel?' you're asking for it really. Was impressed Ferdinand didn't tell him to beat it too.

[Dashing Bob S]

:hilarious

Maybe he's been watching it for 3 days as he's no been on since he made that post :greengrin

He said that he was only going to interfere with himself 30 per cent of the time though, in solidarity with the amount of possession Manure got against Barca.

[hibiedude]

Last nights game was superb- watching Barcelona the best club team on the planet destroy Man Utd at Wembley is good as it gets.

The player we can’t mention, so let’s call him the Welsh International should never have been allowed to play with what’s been going on in his personal life.

The guy is a great player and is a pleasure to watch but last night as some have said he was reduced to a shadow of the player we all know him to be.

Vidic saved Man Utd from a hammering and was clearly their best player; even the English commentators were struggling to support Utd due to the way Barca played them off the park.

The best news of the lot will be today when I got the bookie to collect my winning £ 20 at 9-1 on Barca winning 3-1

[hibsbollah]

He opted for watching gay porn instead, to see if he could be even more disgusted.

i had to titter at that Bob.

[ArabHibee]

I remember a thread a few years back where our old friend IvanDrago/RubyHibee stated that Cristiano Ronaldo "will be and possibly already is the greatest player ever" Oh how I laughed :tee hee:

At the time I pointed out the wonderful Diego Maradona was the greatest player ever. Tonight I seen someone who will end his footballing career with that accolade. It quite possibly could be argued he already is the greatest. I sometimes think the word genius doesn't do him justice.

That effeminate show pony at Real Madrid couldn't lace young Lionels boots.

'Genius' is not a word I would use to describe any football player.

[blackpoolhibs]

'Genius' is not a word I would use to describe any football player.

I'd say Messi is a footballing genius. Especially as he played his part in winning me £800 quid last night. :not worth:not worth

[Andy74]

'Genius' is not a word I would use to describe any football player.

Why not?

[weonlywon6-2]

'Genius' is not a word I would use to describe any football player.

theres always one isnt there !!!:crazy:

[Mon Dieu4]

Thats Lionel now got 100 goals in his last 108 games, even Maradona for once has admitted he is as good as him and thats some accolade from the great man :not worth

[jdships]

I think you're backing up my point. Good players are good players. I'm not buying into the theory that because Messi, Iniesta and Xavi are small that we should target small players though.

Back to the game though- I was slightly surprised that Messi got man of the match tonight. He was fantastic and perhaps 8.5 out of 10, but Xavi and Iniesta for me both as close to perfect as you can get. These 2 have become under-rated because they play in the same team as the worlds best player.

Where /when did anybody on this thread say "...... we should target small players " ?
The point is that size doesn't and never has come into it where quality in a football player is concerned .

:rolleyes::greengrin

[essexhibee]

It just shows that having a team full of midgets ain't neccessarily a bad thing, maybe Hibs should try it! :duck:

Barcelona would get kicked off the park if they played in the SPL.

:faf::faf::faf:

Keep dreaming! Teams in this league wouldn't even be able to get close enough to kick them in the first place. They wouldn't lose a game all season and would win the league with maximum points easily.

[johnrebus]

The only dissapointing thing about last night is that Barca sat in after going 3-1 up.

The chance was there to totally humiliate Manure and Ferguson.

:slipper:

[Wotherspiniesta]

There's just no stopping Barca when they play that way.

There might have only been 2 goals in it, but that was an utter doing :agree:

Barcelona are the best on the planet. Man United will just have to settle for being the most dominant English team.

[Betty Boop]

They even took the goal nets hame ! :greengrin

[Shrekko]

Where /when did anybody on this thread say "...... we should target small players " ?
The point is that size doesn't and never has come into it where quality in a football player is concerned .

:rolleyes::greengrin

:rolleyes:

Ok- once again confusion reigns when discussing with you. I must have imagined it when someone said;

'It just shows that having a team full of midgets ain't neccessarily a bad thing, maybe Hibs should try it!'

and you said 'You just beat me to it!'

:rolleyes:

Now as you're probably about to say 'lets call it a no score draw' anyway, lets just do everyone a favour and drop it.

[marinello59]

'Genius' is not a word I would use to describe any football player.

Then maybe you don't really get fitba. The combination of skill, spatial awareness, the ability to see two or three passes ahead of everybody else and to genuinely lift the human spirit can only be summed up as genius in a footballing sense.

[sahib]

I thought that was a fantastic performance by Barca last night. People rightly say, if you deny the opposition the ball you won't get beat, but the way they won the ball back from united with what appeared to be consummate ease is what stood out for me. To say they are not good at defending after watching that just illustrates to me how narrow a concept of defending we have. It looked like men against boys- at one point a ball came to Rooney and he must have thought it was his but just as he was about to control it a leg appeared and it was gone. In another incident their goalie collected the ball out side the box and a United player made a run to cut off his route back to his box, if this had happened to a Hibs goalie the dreadful wailing in terror of our support would have been something to behold, here the guy passed it calmly to a defender who merely turned and left two United forwards in his wake.

[snooky]

A couple of things that were a stick out re. Barca's game yesterday.
1) Passes were crisp and ACCURATE often slipping by just out of reach of the Man U defending players. Nearly all passes were no more than a few yards. No hoofers.
2) They appeared to stroll through the game (which is, of course, what class players do).
3) After they pass the ball they take two or three strides and make themselves available for a return pass. (Basic stuff that's alien to the SPL).
4) Discipline. Even after losing the goal they stuck to their game plan. No panic.
5) Defending. When they lose the ball the opposition is closed down immediately.
5) How far down the tubes has our game gone over the past 30-40 years? We're light years away from performances like Barca's yesterday.

[sahib]

A couple of things that were a stick out re. Barca's game yesterday.
1) Passes were crisp and ACCURATE often slipping by just out of reach of the Man U defending players. Nearly all passes were no a few yards. No hoofers.
2) They appeared to stroll through the game (which is, of course, what class players do).
3) After they pass the ball they take two or three strides and make themselves available for a return pass. (Basic stuff that's alien to the SPL).
4) Discipline. Even after losing the goal they stuck to their game plan. No panic.
5) Defending. When they lose the ball the opposition is closed down immediately.
5) How far down the tubes has our game gone over the past 30-40 years? We're light years away from performances like Barca's yesterday.

John Collins managed to get us to play like that for about 60 seconds against Rangers iirc.:greengrin

[Hibby Bairn]

I really beilieve (hope) that the way we think about football changed last night. It was a performance that is alien to almost everything we do in the UK and Scotland.

3 things for me:-

1. We must let youngsters play 7-a-side through to about age 14 or 15. Certainly longer than 12 as we do just now. Big pitches just encourage hoofball. Small picthes the opposite.

2. Using the same reasoning 4-a-side games up to age 9.

3. Attitudinal change from adults involved as coaches, administrators and spectators.

Only then will we have any chance and make progress.

[iwasthere1972]

Where is FalkirkHibee :greengrin

IIRC he did say that he was going to be away on holiday. Unless he's on some uninhabited island with no contact with the outside world I'd put money on it that he'll be reading this thread. :agree:

Now I could be talking out of my :asshole: but I'm pretty sure that if Man United had won then he would have found a nice wee internet cafe to give us a blow by blow account of the game. Anywhere between 15 and 20 paragraphs I would guess.

Men against boys. :aok:

[3pm]

4 finals for 'the greatest manager of all time' and outplayed in every one. Amazing he's managed to win it twice.

[hibsbollah]

4 finals for 'the greatest manager of all time' and outplayed in every one. Amazing he's managed to win it twice.

Im no man utd 'hater' but his two euro wins have been spectacularly unspectacular. Bayern were horribly robbed and the chelsea one was dull and depended massively on luck. When they humped Roma 7-0 i thought a truly great team might be emerging but none of his teams compare with the alltime greats IMO.

[Wotherspiniesta]

You've got to love :hnet:

Beaten by the best team on the planet and arguably the best team of all time and suddenly Man Utd are pish, Giggs is pish and Sir Alex Ferguson is pish. :hilarious

[Hibs90]

When you compare them to Barca, then aye they are pish.

[Wotherspiniesta]

When you compare them to Barca, then aye they are pish.

Still miles better than Arsenal though :aok:

[Love the Green]

You've got to love :hnet:

Beaten by the best team on the planet and arguably the best team of all time and suddenly Man Utd are pish, Giggs is pish and Sir Alex Ferguson is pish. :hilarious

Seen the light at last have you, U*****d have rode their luck all season or is it the fact they dont like playing at the new wembley as they have had a few loses there lately.

"keep the faith"
city blues
:na na:

[jdships]

:rolleyes:

Ok- once again confusion reigns when discussing with you. I must have imagined it when someone said;

'It just shows that having a team full of midgets ain't neccessarily a bad thing, maybe Hibs should try it!'

and you said 'You just beat me to it!'

:rolleyes:

Now as you're probably about to say 'lets call it a no score draw' anyway, lets just do everyone a favour and drop it.


Sorry about the confusion problem you are having :wink:
Done !!!!!!:greengrin:

[Wotherspiniesta]

Seen the light at last have you, U*****d have rode their luck all season or is it the fact they dont like playing at the new wembley as they have had a few loses there lately.

"keep the faith"
city blues
:na na:

How have United "rode their luck all season"? :confused:

They won the league FFS.

[matty_f]

How have United "rode their luck all season"? :confused:

They won the league FFS.

:agree: some of the stuff posted about man u has been ridiculous.

[hibsbollah]

You've got to love :hnet:

Beaten by the best team on the planet and arguably the best team of all time and suddenly Man Utd are pish, Giggs is pish and Sir Alex Ferguson is pish. :hilarious

Cant see many people saying that:confused:
The EPL has been relatively low quality this year and man yoo have been best of a mediocre crop. When you consider the riches in the league they (and chelsea, man city etc) should be doing better. Keane Beckham and Giggs and Scholes 10 years younger would destroy the current manyoo midfield; for example.

[Danderhall Hibs]

How have United "rode their luck all season"? :confused:

They won the league FFS.


:agree: some of the stuff posted about man u has been ridiculous.

I think the point folk are making is that the other teams lost the league as much as Man U won it.

[marinello59]

I think the point folk are making is that the other teams lost the league as much as Man U won it.

So in that case did the rest of us lose the SPL as much as Rangers won it? :greengrin

[Wotherspiniesta]

So in that case did the rest of us lose the SPL as much as Rangers won it? :greengrin

:agree:

They rode their luck all season. :greengrin

[Dashing Bob S]

Cant see many people saying that:confused:
The EPL has been relatively low quality this year and man yoo have been best of a mediocre crop. When you consider the riches in the league they (and chelsea, man city etc) should be doing better. Keane Beckham and Giggs and Scholes 10 years younger would destroy the current manyoo midfield; for example.

I think this is true, that Manchester United are pretty much a barometer for the changing face of English football. as you say, they are very much a declining force comparative to the teams they've produced in the past, yet still have more than enough juice to comfortably win the EPL.

It's reckoned that half the clubs in the Premiership will have revenue problems next season, as season ticket sales are expected to be down. The championship is paradoxically thriving, that's because it's very difficult to predict who is going come out top season.

Does anyone really expect United, City and Chelsea to be out the top four? The only interest is the possibility of Spurs, or perhaps even Liverpool, displacing Arsenal, but even that seems unlikely.

The English game has used TV money to cover up substantial structural problems for a while now. Rather than have the sport as a grass-roots affair, it relied on the bread-and-circuses approach. It has to compete with other hyped media events and I reckon the Olympics will have an adverse effect on the interest in the game next season.

[Danderhall Hibs]

So in that case did the rest of us lose the SPL as much as Rangers won it? :greengrin

Almost, Celtic lost it as much as Rangers won it – they threw it away. The rest of us weren’t close. If any of the top 4 or 5 down there had got their finger out they’d have been streets clear of Man U by Easter.

At times it was almost as if none of them wanted to win it.

[iwasthere1972]

Manchester United doing victory parade on a number 19 bus. Thousands of their supporters have lined the streets to see their heroes.

Question is - What city are they in?

[3pm]

Manchester United doing victory parade on a number 19 bus. Thousands of their supporters have lined the streets to see their heroes.

Question is - What city are they in?

There was one boy interviewed on SSN on Saturday. Waiting patiently to get his picture taken with the European Cup in Hyde Park as the journalist asks him where he is from...'Galashiels'.

[dangermouse]

I really beilieve (hope) that the way we think about football changed last night. It was a performance that is alien to almost everything we do in the UK and Scotland.

3 things for me:-

1. We must let youngsters play 7-a-side through to about age 14 or 15. Certainly longer than 12 as we do just now. Big pitches just encourage hoofball. Small picthes the opposite.

2. Using the same reasoning 4-a-side games up to age 9.

3. Attitudinal change from adults involved as coaches, administrators and spectators.

Only then will we have any chance and make progress.

Couldn't agree more. The number of times you hear the shout "Away!" to defenders in kids games is unbelievable. At times I have watched my son play on a park that is far too big and by the time the striker reaches the opposition box he's too knackered to shoot!

I think the main problem is well established clubs that boys want to play for and "win medals" where the emphasis appears to be "win at all costs" resulting is some skill-less football that's painful to watch. Get rid of the dinosaurs coaches and we may see some improvement. Problem is, it all costs money.

[Sylar]

I think it's quite silly to describe them as a "declining force". They have some quality players in their squad and some very impressive youngsters coming through as well. Their youth setup isn't perhaps as good as, say, Arsenal, but players like Evans, Gibson and the younger guys they've signed in Anderson, Fabio, Rafael and Hernandez means it's likely they're going to be challenging for many years to come.

They won the League and arrived in the Champions League final without having lost in Europe. I accept that the Premiership has been a low standard this year and Man Utd have had a pretty poor away record, but their home record was impeccable.

Thinking back over the past 5 years, other than Ronaldo and Pique (who wasn't having the best of times in the EPL), I can't see which massive quality players they've lost and haven't replaced, as guys such as Nani (as much of a cheating prick as he is), Hernandez and Valencia have stepped up to the plate and added a new option.

Signed, a Man Utd "hater".

[Sir David Gray]

Where is FalkirkHibee :greengrin


IIRC he did say that he was going to be away on holiday. Unless he's on some uninhabited island with no contact with the outside world I'd put money on it that he'll be reading this thread. :agree:

Now I could be talking out of my :asshole: but I'm pretty sure that if Man United had won then he would have found a nice wee internet cafe to give us a blow by blow account of the game. Anywhere between 15 and 20 paragraphs I would guess.

Men against boys. :aok:

You do remember correctly. :aok:

I wasn't on holiday but I have been away down south since last Thursday and only got back late last night.

You are also correct in saying that you are talking out of your :asshole: as well. :greengrin

Regardless of the result, I would not have been making any posts on here on Saturday night. I've had no access to the internet at all since I left last Thursday and had no time to go to any internet cafes or anything like that.

Anyhow, onto the game. Absolutely no problem with the outcome of the final. Man Utd had a very good start in the opening 10 minutes or so and it took a wee while for Barcelona to get going. I thought that once United got their equaliser, they finished the first half quite strongly.

However the second half was extremely one-sided and there was only one team involved in the second 45 minutes. It could have ended up being 6 or 7-1 in the end.

It's no disgrace that United lost 3-1 to Barcelona as they are the greatest club side in the world by some considerable distance. The way in which they play football is what every club in the world should aspire to.

Barcelona fully deserve to have won the Champions League title this year and good luck to them. All I can say is that if Sir Alex Ferguson has anything to do with it, Manchester Utd will simply come back next year bigger and stronger.

Being the second best club side in the continent of Europe isn't bad for a club which is supposedly in decline and which is apparently over-rated if you listen to certain people in the media and elsewhere.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I think Real Madrid are the 2nd best club side in Europe. Just had the misfortune of being drawn against Barca in the CL Semis and being from the same country!