Derek Adams Appointed Ross County Manager

[eastmainsmsh]

Typed in Adams on google news rumours he is back as Manager :confused:

[ac1]

Rejoins Ross County?

http://www.rosscountyfootballclub.co.uk/home.aspx

Minute late!

Can an admin paste into other thread cheers!

[eastmainsmsh]

http://www.rosscountyfootballclub.co.uk/news/manager.aspx

[Hibee87]

Rejoins Ross County?

http://www.rosscountyfootballclub.co.uk/home.aspx


WTF :confused:

[Peevemor]

A very confusing episode. I wonder who CC (or RP :devil:) will bring in.

[blackpoolhibs]

Oh no, the end is nigh.:greengrin

[ionahibby]

:confused: wtf is going on at easter road just now! why leave to come here only to scurry off at the first chance

[ancienthibby]

Just been confirmed on Beeb radio - well, that puts paid to more Ross County players coming to ER!:greengrin

[givescotlandfreedom]

Very odd, I got the impression he was in with a view to becoming the boss.

[Stevie Reid]

I hope we got our money back.

[Jones28]

not a big loss, all he did was sit in the stand iirc :devil:

[PaulSmith]

Well well, either Adams doesn't like being an asst or CC doesn't like Adams as Asst or Adams knows that CC is leaving...

As Nishy would say "Only at Hibs"

[magnificent_seven]

http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20110519/derek-adams_2262950_2363038

[proud_and_green]

This is probably not so strange as it first appears. Was there not talk when he came that he was not CC's choice but would provide him with local knowledge. I wonder if CC has now decided that he wants his own man in and therefore this is not as bad as it may seem.

[KWJ]

Hoho.

Bit of a surprise.

Derek Adams said: "I have enjoyed my time in Edinburgh and am sorry to be leaving Hibernian, but the chance to be a Manager again at Ross County is just too good an opportunity to turn down.

Eh?

[steakbake]

Maybe we're ironing out all of the "off the field" problems.

If Calderwood is the Manager, Petrie et al have to give him that freedom. There was a suggestion that Adams was parachuted in.

Perhaps that arrangement didn't suit Adams, Calderwood or the club in general.

Here's hoping for a bit of stability.

[Speedway]

Looks like CC hasn't got the Barnsley job.

[.Sean.]

Let the conspiracy theories commence...

[Stevie Reid]

When he came in CC said: -

"I have been hugely impressed by Derek's achievements at Ross County and also saw in his Ross County team the type of organisation and dynamism that I want to see at Hibernian."

Failed. Let's see who we can get in now.

[Sammy7nil]

Hoho.

Bit of a surprise.

Derek Adams said: "I have enjoyed my time in Edinburgh and am sorry to be leaving Hibernian, but the chance to be a Manager again at Ross County is just too good an opportunity to turn down.

Eh?

:faf::faf::faf::faf:

[superfurryhibby]

What a pantomine, nothing is transparent at ER these days.

[HibeeSince85]

Strange!

Oh well, he was only assistant to CC, it's not as if it's the manager, let's see if CC brings in his own man this time round.

[since90plustwo]

Very odd, I got the impression he was in with a view to becoming the boss.

:agree:

[Stevie Reid]

When he came in CC said: -

"I have been hugely impressed by Derek's achievements at Ross County and also saw in his Ross County team the type of organisation and dynamism that I want to see at Hibernian."

Failed. Let's see who we can get in now.

In saying that, didn't Donald Park leave not long before Mixu did?

Quite happy with this to be honest, CC can bring in an influential figure without it being too disruptive to the players.

[Peevemor]

In saying that, didn't Donald Park leave not long before Mixu did?

Quite happy with this to be honest, CC can bring in an influential figure without it being too disruptive to the players.

The Donald Park thing was different. The job at the SFA offers him security that he won't get in management - quite important for a guy of his age who didn't exactly make a fortune from the game.

[Hibee87]

Let the conspiracy theories commence...


I'll begin, Ivan was brought in by petrie and calderwood never wanted him. Calderwood is now favourite for the swindon job and is goign there adams was unwilling to be a puppet also and has decided to jump ship RC found out and offered him his job back
oh and to add some more fuel to the fire Strachan has been in edinburgh all week :wink:

[Stevie Reid]

The Donald Park thing was different. The job at the SFA offers him security that he won't get in management - quite important for a guy of his age who didn't exactly make a fortune from the game.

True, and I do appreciate that. Just remember being totally depressed at the end of Mixu's first season, then Donald Park left. Shortly after...

[BEEJ]

Here's hoping for a bit of stability.
Amen to that. The club is a bit of a merry-go-round at the moment. :rolleyes:


Looks like CC hasn't got the Barnsley job.
Do you know for sure that he applied (or was approached)?

[Speedway]

Amen to that. The club is a bit of a merry-go-round at the moment. :rolleyes:


Do you know for sure that he applied (or was approached)?

Nope.

[IFONLY]

I'll begin, Ivan was brought in by petrie and calderwood never wanted him. Calderwood is now favourite for the swindon job and is goign there adams was unwilling to be a puppet also and has decided to jump ship RC found out and offered him his job back
oh and to add some more fuel to the fire Strachan has been in edinburgh all week :wink:


Someone posted earlier about that saying he was in Edinburgh because of his dads ill health.

[SneakersO'Toole]

Quite an embarrassing episode really...

[Speedway]

Quite an embarrassing episode really...

Why?

[CropleyWasGod]

Quite an embarrassing episode really...

How so?

Staff member gets job. Staff member doesn't like it or employer doesn't like staff member. Staff member moves back to old job.

Don't see the embarrassment, tbh.

[Hibee87]

Someone posted earlier about that saying he was in Edinburgh because of his dads ill health.

Never knew that my post was purely banter in regards to someone saying 'let the conspiricy threory begin'
No disrepect was meant to strachen or his family

[Speedway]

What's David Kerslake (CC's Mark Venus) doing these days?

[Stevie Reid]

What's David Kerslake (CC's Mark Venus) doing these days?

Was just talking about him in another conversation - working at Watford: -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kerslake

[allezsauzee]

It might well be that he just prefers being the boss? It doesnt always have to be something bad about Hibs

[Stevie Reid]

Chris Hughton is surely a stick on now :greengrin

[Gatecrasher]

i thought Jimmy Calderwood was their manager :confused:

aw well, i wonder who the new assistant will be then.

[truehibernian]

I'll begin, Ivan was brought in by petrie and calderwood never wanted him. Calderwood is now favourite for the swindon job and is goign there adams was unwilling to be a puppet also and has decided to jump ship RC found out and offered him his job back
oh and to add some more fuel to the fire Strachan has been in edinburgh all week :wink:

Gordon's father sadly passed away at the beginning of the week hence he has been up here.

[3pm]

As Rod's role on the board is marginalised, it's becoming clear that he will be Calderwood's No 2. It makes sense that Rod continue to offer support to the 2 felly's on the board while coaching the team. As he signs all players anyway, it does make sense.

Visionary.

[Franck is God]

Bit of a surprise but there could be a number of reasons why he's gone back, the main one being that he didn't fancy being an assistant, tried it and didn't like it.

Quite impressed with him to be honest as I would imagine being assistant at Hibs pays better than being manager at Ross County so he will likely be doing it for football reasons rather than just for the cash.

[Greentinted]

I was never completely comfortable with DA's appointment (not the man, the manner in which it transpired) and wish him all the best although, as a mere fan, I have no clue as to how effective or not, he was in his assistants role.

He's away so no point in lamenting, time to move on. :greengrin

[Holmesdale Hibs]

Let the conspiracy theories commence...

Maybe CC is off to be Chris Houghton's assistent somwhere? :dunno:

[AndersonGGTTH]

:confused:I have no clue WHAT SO EVER what is happening ! like seriously this is making zero sense ! probably the weirdest/craziest/strangest thing i have heard for a while! "i couldnt turn down the chance to be manager at ross county" 6 months after leaving that exact same post !!!:confused:

[seanraff07]

That was a bit sudden, ah well hopefully CC brings in a good replacement.

[seanraff07]

:confused:I have no clue WHAT SO EVER what is happening ! like seriously this is making zero sense ! probably the weirdest/craziest/strangest thing i have heard for a while! "i couldnt turn down the chance to be manager at ross county" 6 months after leaving that exact same post !!!:confused:

So why did he leave in the first place then? Probably cause he thought it'd be a better job but hasn't enjoyed it as much so has returned to his old job, that's all i can think of :confused:

[SneakersO'Toole]

Why?

Either Adams didn't sign up to this with his eyes open or Hibs didn't carry out correct procedures prior to his appointment to mitigate against this happening.

This isn't a regular occurance in football and in my opinion someone has dropped the ball.

[Speedway]

Either Adams didn't sign up to this with his eyes open or Hibs didn't carry out correct procedures prior to his appointment to mitigate against this happening.

This isn't a regular occurance in football and in my opinion someone has dropped the ball.

So it's an embarrasment...in your opinion, which in turn is based on conjecture with zero factual foundation. Yes?

[Sir David Gray]

Very strange turn of events.

I actually thought that his appointment as asst. manager at Hibs was a bit strange in the first place as Calderwood and Adams didn't know each other at all before Adams came on board but to leave just six months later and go back to his old job is just really weird.

I wonder who'll get the job as assistant now. :confused:

[steakbake]

Very strange turn of events.

I actually thought that his appointment as asst. manager at Hibs was a bit strange in the first place as Calderwood and Adams didn't know each other at all before Adams came on board but to leave just six months later and go back to his old job is just really weird.

I wonder who'll get the job as assistant now. :confused:

Hopefully someone who spends more time on the touchline than in the stand.

[Mibbes Aye]

As Rod's role on the board is marginalised, it's becoming clear that he will be Calderwood's No 2. It makes sense that Rod continue to offer support to the 2 felly's on the board while coaching the team. As he signs all players anyway, it does make sense.

Visionary.

:agree:

I hope that the club ensures he gets a well-deserved wage rise for the additional work though.

And I think it's safe to say he'll be a collar and tie coach, rather than a trackie one :agree:

[BEEJ]

So it's an embarrasment...in your opinion, which in turn is based on conjecture with zero factual foundation. Yes?
Very hard to justify this turn of events as being 'routine' or normal, Speedway.

'Peculiar' might be a better description.

[CropleyWasGod]

Either Adams didn't sign up to this with his eyes open or Hibs didn't carry out correct procedures prior to his appointment to mitigate against this happening.

This isn't a regular occurance in football and in my opinion someone has dropped the ball.

Or a mistake was made and rectified? It happens.

[truehibernian]

I wonder if David Weir would be interested in a player/assistant role to get him onto the managerial rungs of the ladder. Worth a considering in my book although there is no doubt that McCoist would want him for another year at Ibrox......he has been an inspiration for them.

[AndersonGGTTH]

Very hard to justify this turn of events as being 'routine' or normal, Speedway.

'Peculiar' might be a better description.

very:agree:

[AndersonGGTTH]

I wonder if David Weir would be interested in a player/assistant role to get him onto the managerial rungs of the ladder. Worth a considering in my book although there is no doubt that McCoist would want him for another year at Ibrox......he has been an inspiration for them.

please tell me this is a wind up :fibber:

[CropleyWasGod]

please tell me this is a wind up :fibber:

Not a bad shout, IMO. Weir said earlier in the week that he wanted to play in the SPL, and would consider moving to another team. He would help sort out our defence.

[Seveno]

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Ian Murray is appointed Assistant Manager. CC appears to have a high regard for him and I think it would be an excellent move.

[Albion Hibs]

I think this is good news. I did not really think much of him and it is well rumoured that he was not CC's choice. On that basis I hope the board learn from this and allow the manager to appoint his own assistant. Good news for Hibs and Adams I think.

I wonder if he will take Scott back with him?

[smurf]

Very strange...

Either desparate to get back or get away...

Why though?

[Stevie Reid]

I wonder if he will take Scott back with him?

As I said earlier, I certainly hope that we got the compensation that we paid for Adams back. Pretty sure that'll have been taken care of though :greengrin

[AndersonGGTTH]

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Ian Murray is appointed Assistant Manager. CC appears to have a high regard for him and I think it would be an excellent move.

yeh , ian murray over davie weir anyday ! now were talking!:agree:

[Stevie Reid]

Very strange...

Either desparate to get back or get away...

Why though?

It's unusual but he doesn't have to have been desperate - Ross County have never adequately replaced him, Hibs have had a poor season and DA was making noises about wanting to be a manager again. The RC supporters will be happy too.

Micky Adams just went back to Port Vale as manager 6 months after he left. Must be something in the name.

[Sergio sledge]

How so?

Staff member gets job. Staff member doesn't like it or employer doesn't like staff member. Staff member moves back to old job.

Don't see the embarrassment, tbh.

:agree: Not sure what all the fuss is about to be honest.

[AndersonGGTTH]

maybe/hopefully adams is taking the dross back with him to ross county .. mark brown.. francis dikoh..steven thichot...etc !

[SneakersO'Toole]

So it's an embarrasment...in your opinion, which in turn is based on conjecture with zero factual foundation. Yes?

10+ managers in 10 years. That's a fact and its embarrassing (which has two s by the way).

Now it seems we can't even screen assistant managers properly. Whether is was Adams or Hibs doing, this type of activity isn't beneficial to hibs. Nor is normal for it happen.

Somebody has made mistake and yes, I find the embarrassing that Adams says Hibs were too good to turn down then 6 months later says his former club were too good to turn down.

[MyJo]

Adams was hired to be the boss and a contract was signed but before it was announced the board became aware that Calderwood was available and interested (remember CC saying that everything moved very quickly from first contact with us) and he was hired. Adams was given the asst managers position instead. He's tried it and prefers being the boss so is away back to Ross County, probably with a payoff from us. Bish Bash Bosh case solved.

[Golden Bear]

It's all very strange.

His resignation is as unexpected as his appointment was in the first place.

I wonder if this is the first move in a series of events?

:hmmm:

[AndersonGGTTH]

10+ managers in 10 years. That's a fact and its embarrassing (which has two s by the way).

Now it seems we can't even screen assistant managers properly. Whether is was Adams or Hibs doing, this type of activity isn't beneficial to hibs. Nor is normal for it happen.

Somebody has made mistake and yes, I find the embarrassing that Adams says Hibs were too good to turn down then 6 months later says his former club were too good to turn down.

Shocking and seems unproffesianal I.M.O:rolleyes:

[Dunbar Hibee]

maybe/hopefully adams is taking the dross back with him to ross county .. mark brown.. francis dikoh..steven thichot...etc !

And what the removed has Mark Brown done wrong like?

[CropleyWasGod]

10+ managers in 10 years. That's a fact and its embarrassing (which has two s by the way).

Now it seems we can't even screen assistant managers properly. Whether is was Adams or Hibs doing, this type of activity isn't beneficial to hibs. Nor is normal for it happen.

Somebody has made mistake and yes, I find the embarrassing that Adams says Hibs were too good to turn down then 6 months later says his former club were too good to turn down.

Whether it's normal or not, it happened. Mistakes seem to have been made. They have been admitted, hopefully learned from. We move on.

As for it "not normal" to happen, I would give you the names of Clough, Docherty and Stein. :greengrin

[truehibernian]

please tell me this is a wind up :fibber:

A defence that includes two 19 year olds and a 20 year old which we are all agreed is crying out for experience and organisation........a player who has won trophies at the top level and played in World Cups.......a player who has learned from a manager widely regarded as one of the best in the business.........a player who despite being 40 stolled the SPL and captained a side to 3-in-a-row despite background matters, player sales and non-footballing issues clouding the SPL run-in...........nope mate, no wind up. I think it would be a great shout.

[Golden Bear]

maybe/hopefully adams is taking the dross back with him to ross county .. mark brown.. francis dikoh..steven thichot...etc !

:confused:

Mark Brown has never let the club down and it's ridiculous to rate him the same as "an etc".

[Stevie Reid]

A defence that includes two 19 year olds and a 20 year old which we are all agreed is crying out for experience and organisation........a player who has won trophies at the top level and played in World Cups.......a player who has learned from a manager widely regarded as one of the best in the business.........a player who despite being 40 stolled the SPL and captained a side to 3-in-a-row despite background matters, player sales and non-footballing issues clouding the SPL run-in...........nope mate, no wind up. I think it would be a great shout.

I would take Weir as player assistant - Ian Murray would be a decent shout too. Would probably prefer a bit more experience though.

[jdships]

This is probably not so strange as it first appears. Was there not talk when he came that he was not CC's choice but would provide him with local knowledge. I wonder if CC has now decided that he wants his own man in and therefore this is not as bad as it may seem.


Think you are right on the money there
I have friends at Victoria Park and there was not a little surprise when he moved to Hibs as "AM"
"................talk when he came that he was not CC's choice but would provide him with local knowledge. "
That story also went the rounds at Dingwall when he moved and it was also said he was signed up before CC arrived . :rolleyes:

The truth will out - perhaps :greengrin

[Cropley10]

As I said earlier, I certainly hope that we got the compensation that we paid for Adams back. Pretty sure that'll have been taken care of though :greengrin

But why would he be desperate to get away???:confused:

Especially as we've got the best ground outside the OF, a state-of-the-art training centre, a solid financial position?

[aberhibsfc]

WTF :confused:

Exactly. WTF is going on?

[SRHibs]

10+ managers in 10 years. That's a fact and its embarrassing (which has two s by the way).

Now it seems we can't even screen assistant managers properly. Whether is was Adams or Hibs doing, this type of activity isn't beneficial to hibs. Nor is normal for it happen.

Somebody has made mistake and yes, I find the embarrassing that Adams says Hibs were too good to turn down then 6 months later says his former club were too good to turn down.

Or two s's? :wink:

OT: Seems very, very strange indeed. Can't say I'm a huge fan of Adam anyway though, and if it is the case that Calderwood didn't pick him, maybe Adam leaving will be a positive.

[Big Frank]

He gone. So what. The whys and what fors matter not a jot.

Hibernian are still here.

[Hibs Class]

Isn't adams' dad in charge at RC? That may have been a factor in his decision.

[AndersonGGTTH]

And what the removed has Mark Brown done wrong like?

dont even get me started on brown ! at the end of the day it is an opionion. for me MB is just that little bit higher in my estimations than GSmith.

[seanraff07]

10+ managers in 10 years. That's a fact and its embarrassing (which has two s by the way).

Now it seems we can't even screen assistant managers properly. Whether is was Adams or Hibs doing, this type of activity isn't beneficial to hibs. Nor is normal for it happen.

Somebody has made mistake and yes, I find the embarrassing that Adams says Hibs were too good to turn down then 6 months later says his former club were too good to turn down.

I still see plenty Hibs fans now calling for CC's head, but haven't they realised yet that changing managers all the time hasn't done us any favours? It definitely isn't the answer. Look how quick we were in giving Mixu the sack then look how well he done at Killie. Maybe that's just coincidence but I wish we'd give managers more time.

[The Sea-gull]

I know the real world and the football world operate under different rules and us as fans are often guilty of mass over reaction when it comes to football but is this really that strange?

If you look at it as being part of the world of work it is not that unusual for employee to get new job, employee to not enjoy new job having been there a few months, former employer says "well if it is not working out for you, we can give you a job", employee says "yes, I'll take it".

I know a few people where this has happened. It is part and parcel of working life.

Lets not speculate and look for conspiracy theories.

[AndersonGGTTH]

I still see plenty Hibs fans now calling for CC's head, but haven't they realised yet that changing managers all the time hasn't done us any favours? It definitely isn't the answer. Look how quick we were in giving Mixu the sack then look how well he done at Killie. Maybe that's just coincidence but I wish we'd give managers more time.

its when you make a trip up to inverness on a wed night and were gwetting beat 2-0 and he just stands with hands on hips not trying to install encouragement in the team ! - And sherringham when he went "yes CC is/was a great coach , i dont know about managerial wise is when you begin to think !

[Stevie Reid]

But why would he be desperate to get away???:confused:

Especially as we've got the best ground outside the OF, a state-of-the-art training centre, a solid financial position?

As I said a few posts back: -

It's unusual but he doesn't have to have been desperate - Ross County have never adequately replaced him, Hibs have had a poor season and DA was making noises about wanting to be a manager again. The RC supporters will be happy too.

Micky Adams just went back to Port Vale as manager 6 months after he left.

[JimBHibees]

Strange!

Oh well, he was only assistant to CC, it's not as if it's the manager, let's see if CC brings in his own man this time round.

Hopefully that is what comes out of this. Is it David Kerslake that was first touted hopefully CC can now get in who he wants.

Certainly does seem a strange one for Adams to go back to the job he left though there may be family/kids issues which have affected this decision.

[seanraff07]

its when you make a trip up to inverness on a wed night and were gwetting beat 2-0 and he just stands with hands on hips not trying to install encouragement in the team ! - And sherringham when he went "yes CC is/was a great coach , i dont know about managerial wise is when you begin to think !

Aye I agree the lack of passion he shows on the touchline annoys me sometimes but that's just how some managers are, I'd rather that than he made a scene out of every main incident in the game like Neil Lennon does.

[blackpoolhibs]

I think this could be a great move for both him and Hibs. We now have a real chance to show big ambition. Gullit or Hiddink would be my choice as CC's assistant. Either could come in and learn from Colin, and maybe take over in a couple of seasons when he moves on to the premiership.

[marinello59]

I think this could be a great move for both him and Hibs. We now have a real chance to show big ambition. Gullit or Hiddink would be my choice as CC's assistant. Either could come in and learn from Colin, and maybe take over in a couple of seasons when he moves on to the premiership.

Don't let modesty prevent you from putting yourself forward. CC and BH. The dream team. :greengrin

[Seveno]

I know the real world and the football world operate under different rules and us as fans are often guilty of mass over reaction when it comes to football but is this really that strange?

If you look at it as being part of the world of work it is not that unusual for employee to get new job, employee to not enjoy new job having been there a few months, former employer says "well if it is not working out for you, we can give you a job", employee says "yes, I'll take it".

I know a few people where this has happened. It is part and parcel of working life.

Lets not speculate and look for conspiracy theories.

Some people need to generate their own excitement during the close season.

'Tea lady leaves Hibs' - shoch, horror. WTF is going on there. We need to be told. Who is going to make the tea ?

[blackpoolhibs]

Don't let modesty prevent you from putting yourself forward. CC and BH. The dream team. :greengrin

In your dreams. :wink:

[James70]

Not a very ambitious move by Adams at this stage in his career, I would love to know the background to this. :confused:

[Franck Stanton]

Hoho.

Bit of a surprise.

Derek Adams said: "I have enjoyed my time in Edinburgh and am sorry to be leaving Hibernian, but the chance to be a Manager again at Ross County is just too good an opportunity to turn down.

Eh?

If it was that good an opportunity, why leave in the first place ? Something stinks here. :hmmm:

[Franck Stanton]

I'll begin, Ivan was brought in by petrie and calderwood never wanted him. Calderwood is now favourite for the swindon job and is goign there adams was unwilling to be a puppet also and has decided to jump ship RC found out and offered him his job back
oh and to add some more fuel to the fire Strachan has been in edinburgh all week :wink:

Strachan is in Edinburgh because his father is poorly - so please lets drop all this nonsence that he is coming to E/R as our new manager geez

[Greentinted]

Don't let modesty prevent you from putting yourself forward. CC and BH. The dream team. :greengrin

Maybe we could all take weeks about until we find the winning formula...let's face it, we all know better on here don't we? :greengrin

[ALF TUPPER]

Bye bye adams. So, hows about Teddy Sheringham as player/coach?? Lolol
CC's pal and disnae need £dosh. Maybe he wants to come to the Hibbys to do a bit of coaching? Scores goals too apparently!!!!

[The Gorf]

A very confusing episode. I wonder who CC (or RP :devil:) will bring in.

I think I can read what you mean.

CC next of his own volition to West Ham.:confused:

[jdships]

Story which has come via the Ticket Office , for what that's worth .
" CC is signing a player/ass'tant manager centre half from abroad ":greengrin

A comeback for "Le God" ? :wink:

Make what you like of it but that's as I was told :aok:

[SneakersO'Toole]

Or two s's? :wink:

OT: Seems very, very strange indeed. Can't say I'm a huge fan of Adam anyway though, and if it is the case that Calderwood didn't pick him, maybe Adam leaving will be a positive.

Touche. Never buy a Blackberry Torch, worse phone possible to txt/email/post etc. :wink:

FWIW, if there was ever the slightest shread of doubt that Adams wanted to be a manager again in the short term then he should never have been hired. Period.

Its easy to pass this off and say these things happen but the reality is they shouldn't.

The whole Adams episode has effectively proved to be a complete waste of time and money. Furthermore, its another thing that Petrie and co need to deal with, distracting them from what is arguably our most important pre-season in years.

[Thomson]

Calderwood's Interview at 05.27 mins,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/13401596.stm,

"Looking forward To Getting Rid Of Some Of The Litter off The Pitch, And That's Not All, There Might Be Some Personnel Aswell"
:confused:

[Speedway]

Touche. Never buy a Blackberry Torch, worse phone possible to txt/email/post etc. :wink:

FWIW, if there was ever the slightest shread of doubt that Adams wanted to be a manager again in the short term then he should never have been hired. Period.

Its easy to pass this off and say these things happen but the reality is they shouldn't.

The whole Adams episode has effectively proved to be a complete waste of time and money. Furthermore, its another thing that Petrie and co need to deal with, distracting them from what is arguably our most important pre-season in years.

No it hasn't.

[iwasthere1972]

Calderwood's Interview at 05.27 mins,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/13401596.stm,

"Looking forward To Getting Rid Of Some Of The Litter off The Pitch, And That's Not All, There Might Be Some Personnel Aswell"
:confused:

There was lots of prawn crackers bags and Mars Bars wrappers etc blowing about the pitch on Saturday. I assume that's what he was talking about. Personnel = Riordan and maybe some more. :dunno:

[CRAZYHIBBY]

this is the last thing hibs need....another empty seat in the stand

[Thomson]

There was lots of prawn crackers bags and Mars Bars wrappers etc blowing about the pitch on Saturday. I assume that's what he was talking about. Personnel = Riordan and maybe some more. :dunno:

The Litter Off The Pitch I Think Was Directed At Riordan And The Likes, And The personnel Was Directed At Adams, Maybe More. :dunno:

[iwasthere1972]

The Litter Off The Pitch I Think Was Directed At Riordan And The Likes, And The personnel Was Directed At Adams, Maybe More. :dunno:

Think you're wrong. There was definitely lots of litter blowing about the pitch on Saturday and I'm 99% sure that's what CC was referring to. Personnel perhaps Adams and Deeks plus whoever else CC has plans to get rid of.

[Lofarl]

Fitba folk ken Whits going oan. I wonder what the odds are of Yogi getting the number 2 job.

Cmon Petrie get Steve Clarke as CC's number 2. Fair swap for Pallson, throw Nish into the bargain too.

[iwasthere1972]

Maybe we should appoint Paul Hartley as our new number 2. Probably be pash but it won't half wind up the Yams. I know he's at Alloa but it shouldn't cost much more that a hundred quid in compensation.

You know it makes sense.

[steakbake]

Story which has come via the Ticket Office , for what that's worth .
" CC is signing a player/ass'tant manager centre half from abroad ":greengrin

A comeback for "Le God" ? :wink:

Make what you like of it but that's as I was told :aok:

Step forward Dianbobo Balde.

[greenlex]

Story which has come via the Ticket Office , for what that's worth .
" CC is signing a player/ass'tant manager centre half from abroad ":greengrin

A comeback for "Le God" ? :wink:

Make what you like of it but that's as I was told :aok:
Close but the name is Alan Smith and he isn't playing CB

[SneakersO'Toole]

No it hasn't.

Insightful as ever from you.

[famous_fife_hibby]

At least the funfair is in town early in the close season! Gives the club time to sort out any other problems. I imagine that Adams couldn't have been happy here, for whatever reason, to go back to Ross County so quickly. Maybe we'll get Orange Jimmy the change jingler as assistant:taxi.....I'll get ma coat now!

[Mon the Hibs]

Very strange as he left Ross County to join Hibs in the first place:confused:

[eastmainsmsh]

Stephen Craigan Player assistant worth a shout :confused:

[Hibee87]

Strachan is in Edinburgh because his father is poorly - so please lets drop all this nonsence that he is coming to E/R as our new manager geez

Can i just clear up i had no idea strachan was even in edinburgh, i was purley just making up a rumour in response to someones post saying let the conspiricy theories begin and strachan was the first name that popped into my head, as ive said already on the thread i meant no disrepect to strachen or his family and my condolincies go out to him on losing a father.

[Speedway]

Insightful as ever from you.

No it isn't.

[ancient hibee]

No it isn't.
Oh yes it is.

[steakbake]

Stephen Craigan Player assistant worth a shout :confused:

Eek. Craigan probably spends as much time on his media career as Adams did in the stands.

Not sure we'd actually have any benefit.

[blackpoolhibs]

Can i just clear up i had no idea strachan was even in edinburgh, i was purley just making up a rumour in response to someones post saying let the conspiricy theories begin and strachan was the first name that popped into my head, as ive said already on the thread i meant no disrepect to strachen or his family and my condolincies go out to him on losing a father.

Dinny worry, you did not post anything that could be construed as an insult, some folk just like to get their knickers in a twist over the slightest thing, and in this case nothing.

[MrSmith]

CC next! Gut instinct end of May he'll be off leaving us in a right mess - so no change then!?

[persevere1875]

Close but the name is Alan Smith and he isn't playing CB


That one wouldnt surprise me to be fair, wasnt he up at EM early this year doing his badges ? gets on well with Calderwood, coming towards the end of his carrer but could still do a job for us without breaking sweat and first step into managment aswell, wages freed by Adams departure towards a player/ coach role :wink:

[just_joe]

The way im seeing it is that it looks as if Calderwood's time at the club is nearing the end. Adams has obviously said to himself "im gonna be out of a job here so im gonna take the ross county job while I still have the chance". What other team is going to come in for him? Why would you join the club that you previously left to join another? Something is certainly not right. I don't think the question is "who the new assistant will be?" I think it's more of "who will the new manager be?" just my opinion folks. GGTTH

[Jim44]

The way im seeing it is that it looks as if Calderwood's time at the club is nearing the end. Adams has obviously said to himself "im gonna be out of a job here so im gonna take the ross county job while I still have the chance". What other team is going to come in for him? Why would you join the club that you previously left to join another? Something is certainly not right. I don't think the question is "who the new assistant will be?" I think it's more of "who will the new manager be?" just my opinion folks. GGTTH

I hope you're wrong but unfortunately I don't think you're a million miles from the truth.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Don't think that this all that strange. By the time that we kick off next season, everyone involved with first team will be there because CC has either brought them in, or wants them to stay. Those are his conditions to take the club forward. No excuses.

[Gala Foxes]

could'nt resist the lure of the Dingwall San Siro?

[Wilson]

Succession planning in tatters?

We are becoming as big a comedy roadshow as the Jambos :rolleyes:

[marinello59]

Succession planning in tatters?

We are becoming as big a comedy roadshow as the Jambos :rolleyes:

Was that the plan? Or did CC simply think he would make a good assistant manager? I assume you know the answer. I don't.

[eastmainsmsh]

If CC Blooms did go Who would we get ..Avram Gargoyle Grant ? With all this Mystery we Will end up With Russell Grant :taxi

[Wilson]

Was that the plan? Or did CC simply think he would make a good assistant manager? I assume you know the answer. I don't.

That is what his signing was heralded as on here. Now that it doesn't suit us to take that view we change our tune. I'd normally associate revisionism of this quality with kickback.

The whole ordeal is a bit of a joke IMO.

[WhileTheChief..]

Ross Co chairman been interviewed on Radio Scotland.

Said he thought Adams didnt't look comfortable as a number 2 and that he called Petrie to ask for permission to talk. Things moved smoothly and quickly and he thanked CC and RP for being open and easy to deal with. Went on to say that Hibs handled everything perfectly.

I've no reason to doubt the guy he sounded totally sincere.

Chick Young then asked him if there was any truth in the rumour that if Hughton gets the West Ham job that CC would be off to join him before being pushed. Ross Coguy said he'd not heard anything about it and there was no conspiracy in Adams leaving.

Good enough for me.

[marinello59]

That is what his signing was heralded as on here. Now that it doesn't suit us to take that view we change our tune. I'd normally associate revisionism of this quality with kickback.

The whole ordeal is a bit of a joke IMO.

Some may have assumed that. Do you know it was for a fact or are you just enjoying wallowing in all the misery you can? Boo hoo we are worse than the Jambo's.

[GreenCastle]

The way im seeing it is that it looks as if Calderwood's time at the club is nearing the end. Adams has obviously said to himself "im gonna be out of a job here so im gonna take the ross county job while I still have the chance". What other team is going to come in for him? Why would you join the club that you previously left to join another? Something is certainly not right. I don't think the question is "who the new assistant will be?" I think it's more of "who will the new manager be?" just my opinion folks. GGTTH

Surely Adams would have been in line to take over as manager if CC had gone ?

The way I see it - one of the 3

1 - Adams felt he wasn't being used / trusted enough under CC = left for more control at Ross County

2 - CC felt he could bring someone else in of better quality - let Adams go

3 - CC is off soon - Adams wanted job security

[Westie1875]

The way im seeing it is that it looks as if Calderwood's time at the club is nearing the end. Adams has obviously said to himself "im gonna be out of a job here so im gonna take the ross county job while I still have the chance". What other team is going to come in for him? Why would you join the club that you previously left to join another? Something is certainly not right. I don't think the question is "who the new assistant will be?" I think it's more of "who will the new manager be?" just my opinion folks. GGTTH

If this were the case surely Adams would be sticking around trying to get the managers job at Hibs? I think he knows there is no chance of CC going anywhere and perhaps they don't get on as well as they hoped so he has taken the decision to jump ship?

[Viva_Palmeiras]

That is what his signing was heralded as on here. .

Yes and I'm sure that JC made great pains to say that AOB was not a direct replacement for Ivan - where Ivan on a Motorbike came from I haven't a clue but it keeps getting bandied about - hiss take presumably

So the collective Hibs.net radar can be a bit off beam at times.

I did say they were the odd couple it appears that it may have been so.

Would appear reasonable that if CC is off then DA pre-empts things however could it not also be the case that we've seen enough of DA to see that discipline is still an issue for him despite the lengths we went to get bans lifted. No point in an assistant or potential future manager to be in the stand hardly an example for the players either.

So the Hibs roll forth. Please let there be ligh come next season!

[snooky]

There's been so much upheaval in our club over the past few years - changing managers/players/directors/back room staff.
Is there anybody who hasn't been replaced? ......... :hmmm:

[Viva_Palmeiras]

There's been so much upheaval in our club over the past few years - changing managers/players/directors/back room staff.
Is there anybody who hasn't been replaced? ......... :hmmm:

Tam McCourt hes in with the fixtures and fittings him and Lewis birds of a fevver and all that :greengrin

[matty_f]

That is what his signing was heralded as on here. Now that it doesn't suit us to take that view we change our tune. I'd normally associate revisionism of this quality with kickback.

The whole ordeal is a bit of a joke IMO.

Thing is, just because we all agree (or a number of folk agree, I should say) that he was brought in as a successor to CC, doesn't mean it was ever on Hibs' agenda at any point.

[Wilson]

Some may have assumed that. Do you know it was for a fact or are you just enjoying wallowing in all the misery you can? Boo hoo we are worse than the Jambo's.

Behave. Neither you or I are representing fact. We are offering viewpoints. Was it not the case? I doubt you know. We don't sign up and coming managers who are first choice at other clubs as assistant too often though do we?

The previous line was that it was a surprise that Adams would take an assistants job. It was not widely disputed that his signing was likely to be succession management. We're all revising that now because it suits us to treat this bizarre situation as a normal occurrence. It isn't.

If succession management was not on the agenda then arguably Adams was too big for an assistants job in the first place.

Poorly played all round.

[jdships]

Thing is, just because we all agree (or a number of folk agree, I should say) that he was brought in as a successor to CC, doesn't mean it was ever on Hibs' agenda at any point.


Good post
As I am being regularly reminded " we are all entitled to an opinion ":greengrin
Then again it is often what you want to believe :wink:
As I posted earlier the folk in Dingwall were very surprised he had taken the job before CC was even appointed !!

[Wilson]

Thing is, just because we all agree (or a number of folk agree, I should say) that he was brought in as a successor to CC, doesn't mean it was ever on Hibs' agenda at any point.

You are correct. We tend to run wild with what little information the club affords us.

I think Adams signing has proven an odd bit of business culminating in a surprise return to where he came from.

I guess it is back to the drawing board on the assistant front. A good opportunity for the right man - hopefully we find him this time!

[Lucius Apuleius]

Maybe Adams did see it as succession planning too, but then realized that Calderwood is gonna be here a long time and thought he would go back to being No 1??????

Message boards are for speculation for sure, however when we find out the truth will be the time to make some of the comments given above, IMO.

[CRAZYHIBBY]

I reckon theres more to this than we think. It doesnt make sense:confused:

[Hibs On Tour]

Behave. Neither you or I are representing fact. We are offering viewpoints. Was it not the case? I doubt you know. We don't sign up and coming managers who are first choice at other clubs as assistant too often though do we?

The previous line was that it was a surprise that Adams would take an assistants job. It was not widely disputed that his signing was likely to be succession management. We're all revising that now because it suits us to treat this bizarre situation as a normal occurrence. It isn't.

If succession management was not on the agenda then arguably Adams was too big for an assistants job in the first place.

Poorly played all round.

Whilst I agree that from the start it wasn't exactly 'normal', I think we're at risk of making far more out of it than perhaps it warrants.

I think our collective assumption as to succession management was perfectly viable given the publicly-noted circumstances. We don't know if there was anything else behind the scenes however. Perhaps there were issues at RC that made leaving make more sense at that point in time while they don't now? Just a random example of how little we know in the grand scheme of things.

FWIW I think the tale from the RC end posted earlier sounds fair enough.

Could just be a case of something that seemed a little 'out' initially not quite pan out for some/all of those concerned as they'd hoped it would and this perhaps neatly ties things back off. For whatever reason[s], we now search for a new asst manager in the hope that next season is better than this.

No more, no less really...

[marinello59]

Behave. Neither you or I are representing fact. We are offering viewpoints. Was it not the case? I doubt you know. We don't sign up and coming managers who are first choice at other clubs as assistant too often though do we?

The previous line was that it was a surprise that Adams would take an assistants job. It was not widely disputed that his signing was likely to be succession management. We're all revising that now because it suits us to treat this bizarre situation as a normal occurrence. It isn't.

If succession management was not on the agenda then arguably Adams was too big for an assistants job in the first place.

Poorly played all round.

Read my posts properly. I have already said I don't know what the future plans, if any, for Derek Adams were. . I am revising nothing.

[Kaiser1962]

Derek Adams was at Ross County and had had a very good season. The opportunity arose for Adams to work in the SPL with Hibs and he took it. No-one can argue that it has went at all well for whatever reason. Derek Adams leaves and goes back to the club he left after they have not had a good season either and is hailed the returning hero.

Dont see the problem myself.

[Alfred E Newman]

Adams is talked into coming to ER as assistant with the promise that if, as looked likely for a while, we were relegated or caught up in the relegation battle Calderwood would be punted at the end of the season and Adams would take over. Results improved and though we slumped to 10th place Calderwood was given the green light by Petrie to carry on next season and Adams wanted out.
Just a thought but whatever the reason I am glad to be shot of the guy. Never really looked like he wanted to be here.

[sahib]

This is a very strange happening and it reflects badly on the people running the club. I can quite believe that Sproule was another Petrie signing just as I suspect Nish and Rankin were. Who does this little mustachioed dilettante think he is? The whole thing smacks of something rotten at the club.

[HibeeMackenzie]

Alan Smith player/assistant manager?

[CropleyWasGod]

This is a very strange happening and it reflects badly on the people running the club. I can quite believe that Sproule was another Petrie signing just as I suspect Nish and Rankin were. Who does this little mustachioed dilettante think he is? The whole thing smacks of something rotten at the club.

How does it? As I've said, DA took the job.... after a while didn't like it (not my opinion, the Ross County chair's opinion), and decided he wanted out.

Doesn't reflect badly on anyone... DA was honest enough to realise he'd made a mistake. The RC chair said that Hibs had acted very professionally and efficiently. He praised their way of doing business.

Hindsight is a great viewpoint.

[jdships]

Great fun reading all these "takes" on why Adams joined/left :greengrin
Not one post is/can be representing fact. ( including mine
We are simply offering viewpoints / opinions/theories/ rumours
All makes for great entertainment :agree:

Sad thing is we probably will NEVER know the real reasons

:flag:

[Bostonhibby]

I'll begin, Ivan was brought in by petrie and calderwood never wanted him. Calderwood is now favourite for the swindon job and is goign there adams was unwilling to be a puppet also and has decided to jump ship RC found out and offered him his job back
oh and to add some more fuel to the fire Strachan has been in edinburgh all week :wink:

:agree: The Strachan thing clinches it for me, he could fill the Matty Jack role easily and would certainly give us a bit more pace and dig than we currently have. I could see him having ten more years as a stand out in the current Hibs team.

[sesoim]

There's been so much upheaval in our club over the past few years - changing managers/players/directors/back room staff.
Is there anybody who hasn't been replaced? ......... :hmmm:



Unfortunately ALL of the good people have left/been sold, and very few of them have been adequately replaced. That is why this club is a mess. Not necessarily a lack of spending, just a failure on the club's part to appoint the right men and sign the right players when we needed them.

[The Falcon]

Unfortunately ALL of the good people have left/been sold, and very few of them have been adequately replaced. That is why this club is a mess. Not necessarily a lack of spending, just a failure on the club's part to appoint the right men and sign the right players when we needed them.

So there are NO "good people" left at the club? :dunno:

[marinello59]

So there are NO "good people" left at the club? :dunno:

Apparently. I would abandon all hope now.

[The Falcon]

Apparently. I would abandon all hope now.

I dont get it. "ALL good people" have gone has been said after Adams left the club so was he one of the "good people" ? I'm not going to ask who the BAD people are still left as I bet it will the usual pantomime villain(s).


While the match up between Calderwood and Adams looked a good one when it happened it clearly wasnt working as intended. Therefore Adams has moved on. Had we been winning game after game then that would be an issue but the fact that we have been pretty poor suggests it shouldnt be and is being made into something it's not.

Derek Adams, thanks and good luck, I hope it works out for you again at RC.

[Septimus]

Is there anybody here who can write a job description for an assistant manager in the SLP? Do we really need one? It seems to me that we would be much better employing a couple of talent spotters with silver tongues who could talk players that we undoubtably need into coming to Easter Road and working for relative peanuts.

The ba's oan the slates. Lets just accept that and all go home.

[steakbake]

Maybe he didn't settle well in Edinburgh and wanted to go back to more familiar surrounds? Maybe he missed working for his dad? Perhaps he thought he'd give it a season but didn't enjoy it as much as he hoped. It is possible there is no conspiracy or failure involved and he simply wanted to go home? It's maybe not as exciting as all these suggestions of skulduggery, intrigue and negligence at ER, but it's just as likely.

[The Falcon]

Maybe he didn't settle well in Edinburgh and wanted to go back to more familiar surrounds? Maybe he missed working for his dad? Perhaps he thought he'd give it a season but didn't enjoy it as much as he hoped. It is possible there is no conspiracy or failure involved and he simply wanted to go home? It's maybe not as exciting as all these suggestions of skulduggery, intrigue and negligence at ER, but it's just as likely.


What a ridiculous notion :wink:

[blackpoolhibs]

Maybe he didn't settle well in Edinburgh and wanted to go back to more familiar surrounds? Maybe he missed working for his dad? Perhaps he thought he'd give it a season but didn't enjoy it as much as he hoped. It is possible there is no conspiracy or failure involved and he simply wanted to go home? It's maybe not as exciting as all these suggestions of skulduggery, intrigue and negligence at ER, but it's just as likely.

I dont believe there's any conspiracy going on, but there was a real case of failure. Adams failed alongside Calderwood to install any kind of gritt and determination into this team.

I'm glad he's gone, never liked him, never thought he brought anything to the table. If he did it was not apparent to me, imo he's no loss. CC and him never looked from the outside comfortable together, if Calderwood is to succeed, he needs someone he trusts and wants, again for me that did not look the case?

[down the slope]

Is there anybody here who can write a job description for an assistant manager in the SLP? Do we really need one? It seems to me that we would be much better employing a couple of talent spotters with silver tongues who could talk players that we undoubtably need into coming to Easter Road and working for relative peanuts.

The ba's oan the slates. Lets just accept that and all go home.

That sounds like Rod, is he not doing this already ?.

[Jones28]

David Weir is a great shout for either assistant manager or to bring in as a player. As much as I dislike him there's no denying he was the best centre back in Scotland last season.

Player/coaching role?

I also love the idea of Murray being given some kind of role at the club, but maybe a wee bit lacking in experience at the moment to go straight in as assistant manager.

[eastmainsmsh]

Wonder if the foreign striker could be Steffan Iverson who played with CC at Spurs see he is at Crystal Palace :confused:

33 i think but was a decent player ,experienced and poss double as assistant :taxi

[Stevie Reid]

"County chairman MacGregor insisted nobody understood the club better than Adams but admitted his dad, director of football, George, was initially opposed to the plan.

He said: "They say 'never go back' but we've had difficulty in finding someone who understands this club.

"The Ross County model is different from other clubs. It's about staying in the Highlands and not going up and down the road.

"It's about understanding the people in the club and what the club is about.
"Looking round at where we might go, I came to the conclusion it had to be Derek. I knew Derek wasn't completely happy at being a No.2.

"His father had nothing to do with this - in fact, he didn't want this to happen. But I did."

MacGregor hopes the seven months away will have refreshed Adams jnr and added extra experience to his armoury.

The chairman said: "I think the Hibs experience will have added something. I cautioned him at the time about the move because I felt he was a leader who would find it hard to be a No.2.

"He has found that out but I think that's a positive not a negative. It's a good decision and I want to thank Colin Calderwood and Rod Petrie for allowing it to happen."

Easter Road gaffer Calderwood made his move for Adams in mid-October with County in the midst of a rocky season.

But successor Willie McStay was sacked after only three months before the Staggies scraped to safety under Jimmy Calderwood who failed to impress the Dingwall board.

The returning gaffer also spoke of his delight to be back on familiar ground.
Adams said: "I have enjoyed my time in Edinburgh and I am sorry to be leaving Hibs but the chance to be a manager again at Ross County is just too good an opportunity to turn down.

"Colin has been great to work with and I would like to thank him, and everyone at Hibs, for the opportunity and wish them every success in the future."

Sounds entirely fair enough to me. As people who went to great lengths to travel to the replay last year will know, Dingwall is the furthest most football club in the country - it can't be easy to attract people there and even more difficult for people to settle.

They've got someone who know what it's all about and we've an opportunity to improve our management team - win/win.

[Stevie Reid]

There's been so much upheaval in our club over the past few years - changing managers/players/directors/back room staff.
Is there anybody who hasn't been replaced? ......... :hmmm:

Just to put things in perspective here, let's have a look at some of our SPL rivals: -


Motherwell - 8 managers in the last 10 years (Butcher was there for 4 of them)

They also went into administration in that time and should have been relegated when they finished bottom of the SPL. Have still managed to have some very good seasons and have reached 2 cup finals.

Dundee Utd - 7 managers in the last 10 years

Still won the Scottish Cup and qualified for Europe as well as consistent top 6 finishes the last few seasons

We know about Hearts. Killie are now looking for their 4th manager in under 18 months and still managed to finish 4th.

[jdships]

(Originally by Hibee87)---
".............. Calderwood is now favourite for the swindon job and is goign there "

Pauli Di Canio has just signed a twi yrat contract to manage Swindon - oops !!!!!!!!

Back to Greggs ?

:greengrin:wink:

[IWasThere2016]

Adams is odd.

[Andy74]

Adams is odd.

Correct.

[R'Albin]

Adams is odd.
Agreed.

[chrisski33]

what did adams exactly do anyway? apart from getting sent to the stands. no loss to Hibs I reckon lets move on

[RickyS]

what did adams exactly do anyway? apart from getting sent to the stands. no loss to Hibs I reckon lets move on

has anybody heard anything about our new assistant yet?

[Baldy Foghorn]

has anybody heard anything about our new assistant yet?

Will there be one appointed? There are enough coaches already in situ?

[RickyS]

Will there be one appointed? There are enough coaches already in situ?

yeah maybe your right, I never considered it being filled from within.