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Brooster
17-05-2011, 11:34 AM
http://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/index.asp?tm=2&nid=3915&cd=2011

Lets see how he gets on up at Utd. Will he be an adequate replacement for Gomis?

3pm
17-05-2011, 11:35 AM
http://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/index.asp?tm=2&nid=3915&cd=2011

Lets see how he gets on up at Utd. Will he be an adequate replacement for Gomis?

That's encouraging. :agree:

HibbyAndy
17-05-2011, 11:36 AM
Some how he will flourish with them, And be the dead ball specialist we were told when he signed for Hibs.

Pish signing IMO for Dundee utd,.With the players they are gonna lose this summer it can only be good for us.

easty
17-05-2011, 11:38 AM
Didnt work for him here, clearly, and I'm glad we've got rid, but I bet he turns out to be a decent player for Utd. He showed at Caley he could play in this league.

Phil MaGlass
17-05-2011, 11:42 AM
Another one who will come back and haunt us, its on the cards and we all know it.....

sixtwo
17-05-2011, 11:45 AM
Another one who will come back and haunt us, its on the cards and we all know it.....

I doubt he has the ability to haunt us. I hope that is the standard of player utd get in. He will drag them down

Franck is God
17-05-2011, 11:54 AM
as Houston says in the United article, he is an industrious hardworking midfielder and will be popular with the fans, says a lot for their budget for next year though, clearly they have had to lower their sights a bit. He is the equivalent of when we signed Kerr to replace KT.

I had no problem with him leaving Hibs as I always thought he was limited as a midfielder, needed too many touches and time on the ball to be really effective going forward but could be relied upon to give everything while on the pitch and I always apreciate that in a player regardless of ability.

iwasthere1972
17-05-2011, 11:55 AM
Wonder if his new nickname will be "Wotsit"?

120 appearances for Hibs and 6 goals but you can guarantee that he will score at least one goal against us when we play them next season. Be a header as well.

Golden Bear
17-05-2011, 12:02 PM
Best of luck John.

He may not be the best footballer in the world but his professionalism couldn't be questioned.

scott7_0(Prague)
17-05-2011, 12:10 PM
http://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/index.asp?tm=2&nid=3915&cd=2011

Lets see how he gets on up at Utd. Will he be an adequate replacement for Gomis?

Good move for him, bottom 6 club to a top 6 club = promotion in his career. :agree:

patlowe
17-05-2011, 12:14 PM
Always admired his effort and commitment but I just cannot see Rankin being a success at this level. He wasn't even an ICT regular when we signed him, just a good professional that scored the odd long range goal - not much has changed.

Craig_in_Prague
17-05-2011, 12:20 PM
Jeezo.

any of you still quite young and good at football.........stick in there.

Clearly, you can be average and make a great living from the sport, just by staying fit.

MrSmith
17-05-2011, 12:23 PM
You know what pees me off the most? we talk about losing all these players who will most likely come back to haunt us!! So, when do we come back to haunt all the other teams and players who haunt us or are we just in a perpetual fear cycle???

hibs0666
17-05-2011, 12:30 PM
I doubt he has the ability to haunt us. I hope that is the standard of player utd get in. He will drag them down

I'm sure he has the natural ability. It's unlikely that the United fans will undermine his confidence as much as our supporters did and so it is entirely possible that his game improves up there.

blackpoolhibs
17-05-2011, 01:06 PM
If he comes back to haunt us, he will have to get a big white sheet cover himself with it and cut 2 holes out for his eyes.

easty
17-05-2011, 01:10 PM
If he comes back to haunt us, he will have to get a big white sheet cover himself with it and cut 2 holes out for his eyes.

As a member of the Klan?

sixtwo
17-05-2011, 01:19 PM
I'm sure he has the natural ability. It's unlikely that the United fans will undermine his confidence as much as our supporters did and so it is entirely possible that his game improves up there.

Rankin was given a fair crack of the whip by hibs fans. Many fans appreciated his effort. He gained hero status for a few weeks when we all pretended to believe he meant that 'squiggler'.

Fans have a right to change their opinion. Many believe that his hardwork and effort would soon be matched by an improvement in quality. That never arrived. There is only so much you can take. His choice of pass was terrible, his positional sense was terrible his second touch was often a tackle as his first touch was so poor.

He is fit, he runs about a lot but he is a poor footballer. The term 'headless chicken' has never been so appropriate!

But if you want to believe the fans made him a poor player then you are entitled to your opinion

IFONLY
17-05-2011, 01:23 PM
Aye slag him all you want but he has signed for a team who are regularly in the top six, have a manager with a bit of know how and have won the Scottish cup in the last few years. So good luck to him, IMO he was treated atrociously by a large section of Hibs fans. He was by no way the worst player I have seen in a Hibs jersey,but some fans have to have a scapegoat. Wonder who it will be next season?? Good luck John.

sixtwo
17-05-2011, 01:29 PM
Aye slag him all you want but he has signed for a team who are regularly in the top six, have a manager with a bit of know how and have won the Scottish cup in the last few years. So good luck to him, IMO he was treated atrociously by a large section of Hibs fans. He was by no way the worst player I have seen in a Hibs jersey,but some fans have to have a scapegoat. Wonder who it will be next season?? Good luck John.

I am absoulutely certain hibs will finish above Dundee utd next season:aok:

Thecat23
17-05-2011, 01:31 PM
Aye slag him all you want but he has signed for a team who are regularly in the top six, have a manager with a bit of know how and have won the Scottish cup in the last few years. So good luck to him, IMO he was treated atrociously by a large section of Hibs fans. He was by no way the worst player I have seen in a Hibs jersey,but some fans have to have a scapegoat. Wonder who it will be next season?? Good luck John.

agree with you 100%.

seanraff07
17-05-2011, 01:35 PM
Good luck to him, I'm not convinced he will but hope he does well.

IFONLY
17-05-2011, 01:38 PM
I am absoulutely certain hibs will finish above Dundee utd next season:aok:

My post isnt about where Hibs will finish.

greenlex
17-05-2011, 01:38 PM
Good luck son. Just not against us though.

MB62
17-05-2011, 01:39 PM
I doubt he has the ability to haunt us. I hope that is the standard of player utd get in. He will drag them down

Can't argue that he is only an average player and not worried in the slightes about Utd signing him.
However, it is the standard of player WE will be signing that is of the greatest concern to me, and I am concerned about who it might.

blackpoolhibs
17-05-2011, 01:42 PM
As a member of the Klan?

What Klan is this?

SteveHFC
17-05-2011, 01:47 PM
What is the betting that he will score against us next season.

Petrie's Tache
17-05-2011, 01:48 PM
What Klan is this?
:fishin:

Hibiza
17-05-2011, 01:48 PM
good move and good luck, John.

Baldy Foghorn
17-05-2011, 01:52 PM
good move and good luck, John.

agreed

blackpoolhibs
17-05-2011, 01:55 PM
There's only one question any Hibs fan needs to ask themselves, would you rather John Rankin played regularly for Hibs, or Dundee Utd?

sixtwo
17-05-2011, 01:57 PM
My post isnt about where Hibs will finish.

You were rabbiting on about the merits of him signing for Dundee Utd. Tops six finish, good manager, scottish cup blah blah ****ing blah!


I was pointing out that the move may not be as good as you think. Dundee united are likely to be on the way down (especially if they are singning players of that ilk). They will lose the players that have done so well for them in recent years. Their manager is not as good as you may think and has merely kept going what potter had started. He will have to work harder to get the same level of performances next season.

That was the reasoning behind my post

Jim44
17-05-2011, 01:58 PM
Excellent move for Rankin. I never thought he was a great player for us but I often wondered why he took quite as much stick. I think he will do well in Dundee with players who have more commitment and passion than our lot.

scott7_0(Prague)
17-05-2011, 02:00 PM
You were rabbiting on about the merits of him signing for Dundee Utd. Tops six finish, good manager, scottish cup blah blah ****ing blah!


I was pointing out that the move may not be as good as you think. Dundee united are likely to be on the way down (especially if they are singning players of that ilk). They will lose the players that have done so well for them in recent years. Their manager is not as good as you may think and has merely kept going what potter had started. He will have to work harder to get the same level of performances next season.

That was the reasoning behind my post


There is no reasoning in your post, you cant see past Hibs.

You are saying Dundee UTD will lose players and they will not be as good next season. I would like to point out that we have released 10+ players, which will make us not as good as this year.... scary thought by the way.

as the IFONLY has pointed out, Dundee UTD's track record is more impressive than Hibs in the last 5, 10, 15years.

iwasthere1972
17-05-2011, 02:01 PM
What is the betting that he will score against us next season.

Ladbrokes are offering shorter odds on Jonathan King and Gary Glitter jointly doing Children in Need.

Might be tempted to stick a tenner on it.

Part/Time Supporter
17-05-2011, 02:04 PM
There is no reasoning in your post, you cant see past Hibs.

You are saying Dundee UTD will lose players and they will not be as good next season. I would like to point out that we have released 10+ players, which will make us not as good as this year.... scary thought by the way.

as the IFONLY has pointed out, Dundee UTD's track record is more impressive than Hibs in the last 5, 10, 15years.

Last three years, yes. In most of the ten years before that, United were scrambling to avoid relegation.

This summer they're losing most of the players that have made them a top six side, mostly on Bosmans (Gomis, Bauben, Conway). Therefore not even much dosh available to reinvest in new players.

sixtwo
17-05-2011, 02:07 PM
There is no reasoning in your post, you cant see past Hibs.

You are saying Dundee UTD will lose players and they will not be as good next season. I would like to point out that we have released 10+ players, which will make us not as good as this year.... scary thought by the way.

as the IFONLY has pointed out, Dundee UTD's track record is more impressive than Hibs in the last 5, 10, 15years.


I am biased towards hibs - shoot me!

No one mentioned the last 15 years.


It is widely reported united will lose their better player. Goodwillie is tipped to go, Conway, Bauben and Gomis are away. This to me is the nucleus of their team and the reasons for success. Hibs have been pish for over a year and every one of the players we have released has been a part of that. The player that CC brought in made a difference when it mattered. This is why I believe he will build a team that will do well next season

IFONLY
17-05-2011, 02:10 PM
You were rabbiting on about the merits of him signing for Dundee Utd. Tops six finish, good manager, scottish cup blah blah ****ing blah!


I was pointing out that the move may not be as good as you think. Dundee united are likely to be on the way down (especially if they are singning players of that ilk). They will lose the players that have done so well for them in recent years. Their manager is not as good as you may think and has merely kept going what potter had started. He will have to work harder to get the same level of performances next season.

That was the reasoning behind my post
And we are signing players like Vaz Te, Dickoh etc. so we will be better!!!!!

sixtwo
17-05-2011, 02:12 PM
And we are signing players like Vaz Te, Dickoh etc. so we will be better!!!!!

We haven't signed them yet but if we do I think arguably they are. Vaz te plays in a similar position and has a better goals to game ratio. Both have played at a higher level.

Whats your point?

Do you love john? Do you like his plastic face looks?

scott7_0(Prague)
17-05-2011, 02:13 PM
Last three years, yes. In most of the ten years before that, United were scrambling to avoid relegation.

This summer they're losing most of the players that have made them a top six side, mostly on Bosmans (Gomis, Bauben, Conway). Therefore not even much dosh available to reinvest in new players.

Over the piece with Cup wins and European adventures.


I am biased towards hibs - shoot me!

No one mentioned the last 15 years.


It is widely reported united will lose their better player. Goodwillie is tipped to go, Conway, Bauben and Gomis are away. This to me is the nucleus of their team and the reasons for success. Hibs have been pish for over a year and every one of the players we have released has been a part of that. The player that CC brought in made a difference when it mattered. This is why I believe he will build a team that will do well next season

5, 10, 15 was quoted by myself as an example of UTD record in SPL, Scottish Cups and Europe... compare segment by segment against Hibs and see who comes out better!

The players CC saved us from relegation thats all. once i again I will point out we have lost more than Dundee UTD have this season, going into next...

sixtwo
17-05-2011, 02:19 PM
Over the piece with Cup wins and European adventures.



5, 10, 15 was quoted by myself as an example of UTD record in SPL, Scottish Cups and Europe... compare segment by segment against Hibs and see who comes out better!

The players CC saved us from relegation thats all. once i again I will point out we have lost more than Dundee UTD have this season, going into next...


That is a positive thing!

We are losing ***** players and i have confidence we will replace them with better players!

Dundee united are losing quality players. The players that have delivered over the last 2 years!

Sounds like you have more feeling and appreciation for United

IFONLY
17-05-2011, 02:20 PM
We haven't signed them yet but if we do I think arguably they are. Vaz te plays in a similar position and has a better goals to game ratio. Both have played at a higher level.

Whats your point?

Do you love john? Do you like his plastic face looks?

Really quite pointless even trying to have a discussion when you resort to stupid remarks like that one.( How old are you, cos that is something a 10yr old or younger would come out with)

I should have a strong word with myself in the future I am not one of the regular posters on here so my opinion never counts with people like you after all you are or come across as being always right in everything you say.

sixtwo
17-05-2011, 02:24 PM
We haven't signed them yet but if we do I think arguably they are. Vaz te plays in a similar position and has a better goals to game ratio. Both have played at a higher level.

Whats your point?

Do you love john? Do you like his plastic face looks?

Really quite pointless even trying to have a discussion when you resort to stupid remarks like that one.( How old are you, cos that is something a 10yr old or younger would come out with)

I should have a strong word with myself in the future I am not one of the regular posters on here so my opinion never counts with people like you after all you are or come across as being always right in everything you say.

:faf:
:greengrin:greengrin

scott7_0(Prague)
17-05-2011, 02:26 PM
That is a positive thing!

We are losing ***** players and i have confidence we will replace them with better players!

Dundee united are losing quality players. The players that have delivered over the last 2 years!

Sounds like you have more feeling and appreciation for United

Where is your evidence we will replace the 10 left with better?

The lads we brought in recently have kept us in the SPL that's all, nothing more. The worrying thing for me is CC will be working on a tighter budget than previous years due to out low placement in the SPL this year and most likely less season tickets being sold. Not exactly encouraging me for a better quality player coming to Hibs.

As for your comment about me having more feeling towards Dundee UTD, if you want to be taken seriously in a discussion best not to resort to stupid remarks.

The Harp
17-05-2011, 02:28 PM
Aye slag him all you want but he has signed for a team who are regularly in the top six, have a manager with a bit of know how and have won the Scottish cup in the last few years. So good luck to him, IMO he was treated atrociously by a large section of Hibs fans. He was by no way the worst player I have seen in a Hibs jersey,but some fans have to have a scapegoat. Wonder who it will be next season?? Good luck John.

Yup, I'd go along wi' that. He didn't deserve the barracking he took at ER at times. Maybe not Mr Football but always gave 100% IMO. Hope his move works out for him - wouldn't wish him well against the Hibs tho. :wink:

Steve20
17-05-2011, 02:29 PM
There is no reasoning in your post, you cant see past Hibs.

You are saying Dundee UTD will lose players and they will not be as good next season. I would like to point out that we have released 10+ players, which will make us not as good as this year.... scary thought by the way.

as the IFONLY has pointed out, Dundee UTD's track record is more impressive than Hibs in the last 5, 10, 15years.

Winning the Scottish Cup yes. However, in the overall SPL table since it began in 1998, Hibs have more points than Dundee Utd so our league record over the last so many years has been better.

Mark79
17-05-2011, 02:30 PM
I cant believe folk are arguing over John Rankin of all players. He is an average to poor footballer who will potter along unnoticed in any team. Good luck to him. Lets concentrate on the future and not the past.

sixtwo
17-05-2011, 02:37 PM
Where is your evidence we will replace the 10 left with better?

The lads we brought in recently have kept us in the SPL that's all, nothing more. The worrying thing for me is CC will be working on a tighter budget than previous years due to out low placement in the SPL this year and most likely less season tickets being sold. Not exactly encouraging me for a better quality player coming to Hibs.

As for your comment about me having more feeling towards Dundee UTD, if you want to be taken seriously in a discussion best not to resort to stupid remarks.


I have no evidence as we are yet to sign a new player for next season. I based this opinion on the players the manager brought in. They were asked to do a job and the turnaround was remarkable. We went from a relegation fight to almost getting into the top six.

Where is your evidence we will have a smaller budget?



As for my comment on your appreciation for united, I base this solely on this thread. You are hell bent on arguing united are a better option than Hibs. If you want to be taken seriously don't talk pish!:wink:

scott7_0(Prague)
17-05-2011, 02:37 PM
Winning the Scottish Cup yes. However, in the overall SPL table since it began in 1998, Hibs have more points than Dundee Utd so our league record over the last so many years has been better.

Since 1998 Dundee Utd have finished above us 8 times including the first year when we were not even in the league. Hibs have manage to finish above Utd 6times. :agree:

scott7_0(Prague)
17-05-2011, 02:39 PM
I have no evidence as we are yet to sign a new player for next season. I based this opinion on the players the manager brought in. They were asked to do a job and the turnaround was remarkable. We went from a relegation fight to almost getting into the top six.

As for my comment on your appreciation for united, I base this solely on this thread. You are hell bent on arguing united are a better option than Hibs. If you want to be taken seriously don't talk pish!:wink:

I am basing my facts on reality not fantasy :agree:

sixtwo
17-05-2011, 02:40 PM
I am basing my facts on reality not fantasy :agree:


So you know for a fact we will have a smaller budget?

scott7_0(Prague)
17-05-2011, 02:41 PM
So you know for a fact we will have a smaller budget?

Yes.:agree:

Cod Boy
17-05-2011, 02:43 PM
I am absoulutely certain hibs will finish above Dundee utd next season:aok:

tenner says they wont

sixtwo
17-05-2011, 02:46 PM
Yes.:agree:


No you don't.

I doubt the player budget has been finalised.

We have agreed a new improved sponsorship for next year and I'm sure there will be more commercial deals done before now and then.

The board could sanction a few early signings for calderwood and that could motivate a lot more fans to buy season tickets and this will increase the player budget further. You have proven yourself to be willing to lie to win an argument. you have also painted yourself as a closet arab!:greengrin

scott7_0(Prague)
17-05-2011, 02:51 PM
No you don't.

I doubt the player budget has been finalised.



OK then I don't...believe what you want.

The squad will be smaller, the budget for bringing in players will be smaller and the wages and wage bill with be smaller. This is the info that I have been given.

So as I said Facts against Fantasy (assumptions)


No you don't.


We have agreed a new improved sponsorship for next year and I'm sure there will be more commercial deals done before now and then.

The board could sanction a few early signings for calderwood and that could motivate a lot more fans to buy season tickets and this will increase the player budget further. You have proven yourself to be willing to lie to win an argument. you have also painted yourself as a closet arab!:greengrin

As for me telling a lie, where about!?

sixtwo
17-05-2011, 02:55 PM
OK then I don't...believe what you want.

The squad will be smaller, the budget for bringing in players will be smaller and the wages and wage bill with be smaller. This is the info that I have been given.

So as I said Facts against Fantasy (assumptions)



As for me telling a lie, where about!?

You do not Know for a fact the budget will be smaller. You are speculating.

I have been told that hearts are building a £51m superstand, i do not know it will happen.

Part/Time Supporter
17-05-2011, 02:56 PM
Over the piece with Cup wins and European adventures.

25 years ago, yes, not in the last 15 years though. They've been put out of Europe in the first round (like Hibs) every time they've entered in that time.

United have won the same number of cups as Hibs in the same period as well.

scott7_0(Prague)
17-05-2011, 03:00 PM
You do not Know for a fact the budget will be smaller. You are speculating.

I have been told that hearts are building a £51m superstand, i do not know it will happen.

As I said, believe what you want, you asked if i knew for a fact, i said yes. Now you say i don't or i have lied... :rolleyes:

I see no point trying to discuss this with you any more as you don't want to accept anything other than your opinion, so, it's 5pm and I am off home to have an constructive discussion with my 2year old. :agree:

500miles
17-05-2011, 03:02 PM
Rankin's a decent player in the right team. Dundee United are physical, and like to get the ball forwards quickly.

He's not the man for slow build up or silky precision football.

Could fit in nicely. Good pro, decent player. I think he'll do better than some think.

sixtwo
17-05-2011, 03:06 PM
As I said, believe what you want, you asked if i knew for a fact, i said yes. Now you say i don't or i have lied... :rolleyes:

I see no point trying to discuss this with you any more as you don't want to accept anything other than your opinion, so, it's 5pm and I am off home to have an constructive discussion with my 2year old. :agree:

Well done. You know for a fact but you can't prove it. You deliberately ignored all the other posters who questioned your facts. You are hell bent on proving united have been better than hibs for the last 15 years and you are convinced Hibs will continue to be poorer than dundee united next year. you glass is definately half empty.

Kaiser1962
17-05-2011, 03:06 PM
John Rankin is a hard working clean living footballer and a good guy who would do anything to help and always had time to chat about football. It didnt quite work out for him at Hibs.

I wish him nothing but good fortune in his life.

Scouse Hibee
17-05-2011, 03:09 PM
Couldn't care less about Rankin signing for Dundee Utd. What does worry me though is the fact that both Dundee Utd and St Johnstone have today announced new signings of players released by other clubs. There are plenty of them out there and I only hope we move sooner rather than later and secure some of the decent players available before it's too late.

marinello59
17-05-2011, 03:12 PM
Good luck to him. He always gave his all and did not deserve the stick he took from many in the Hibs support. Whether you rated him or not he never hid and always tried to play to the best of his ability.

Barney McGrew
17-05-2011, 03:12 PM
It's a good move for Rankin, and undoubtedly good news for owners of sunbed salons in the Dundee area

greenlex
17-05-2011, 03:13 PM
Couldn't care less about Rankin signing for Dundee Utd. What does worry me though is the fact that both Dundee Utd and St Johnstone have today announced new signings of players released by other clubs. There are plenty of them out there and I only hope we move sooner rather than later and secure some of the decent players available before it's too late.
Are the english leagues officially done and dusted? Dont we need to wait till the play off finals are done?

Bishop Hibee
17-05-2011, 03:33 PM
Good luck to him. He always gave his all and did not deserve the stick he took from many in the Hibs support. Whether you rated him or not he never hid and always tried to play to the best of his ability.

All of the above. We had/have plenty worse than him.

Baldy Foghorn
17-05-2011, 04:53 PM
Good luck to him. He always gave his all and did not deserve the stick he took from many in the Hibs support. Whether you rated him or not he never hid and always tried to play to the best of his ability.

:top marks:agree:

3pm
17-05-2011, 04:58 PM
Good luck to him. He always gave his all and did not deserve the stick he took from many in the Hibs support. Whether you rated him or not he never hid and always tried to play to the best of his ability.

I agree and he took that opportunity to join Hibs as most of his colleagues would have done. It wasn't his fault that he wasn't up to scratch.

He did symbolise the depths we sunk to though when he put the captain's armband on...in my view anyway. Not his fault though.

Barney McGrew
17-05-2011, 05:03 PM
Rankin is on Sportsound on Radio Scotland tonight at 6.10pm

scott7_0(Prague)
17-05-2011, 05:25 PM
Well done. You know for a fact but you can't prove it. You deliberately ignored all the other posters who questioned your facts. You are hell bent on proving united have been better than hibs for the last 15 years and you are convinced Hibs will continue to be poorer than dundee united next year. you glass is definately half empty.

Not sure where I said we would be poorer than Utd, I was just saying over the piece Utd have done much better than hibs over a certain time period and as far as I can see I answered all replies directed toward me!!

As for my glass being half full, I would say I am more open minded and realistic about Hibs than some on here. If that makes the glass half empty so be it.

DH1875
17-05-2011, 05:35 PM
It's prob for the best and I can only wish the bloke the best of luck but the abuse he got at times on here was a joke.

moredun
17-05-2011, 05:53 PM
There is no reasoning in your post, you cant see past Hibs.

You are saying Dundee UTD will lose players and they will not be as good next season. I would like to point out that we have released 10+ players, which will make us not as good as this year.... scary thought by the way.

as the IFONLY has pointed out, Dundee UTD's track record is more impressive than Hibs in the last 5, 10, 15years.


DU have been spending money they cannot afford for years now, and now it is coming back to haunt them
Not a chance DU will be paying players anywhere near what Hibs will, and if they are signing players that we gladly pumped out the door, then to me they are going to the place we have been for the last couple of seasons
We are releasing the type of player they want, that says it all, i would say we will bring in far better players than JR

Do you not think the likes of Gomis conway etc are a better calibre of player than the likes of JR, so in that context they will be worse off
We are getting rid of the likes of JR and imo will bring in better quality

So i think their was plenty reasoning in his post

The_Todd
17-05-2011, 05:58 PM
Good luck at United, John. Never hid, always gave 110%. I know he had his detractors on here and at ER, but the effort he put in was noted by a few Hibs fans I hope.

scott7_0(Prague)
17-05-2011, 06:02 PM
releasing the type of player they want, that says it all, i would say we will bring in far better players than JR

Do you not think the likes of Gomis conway etc are a better calibre of player than the likes of JR, so in that context they will be worse off
We are getting rid of the likes of JR and imo will bring in better quality

So i think their was plenty reasoning in his post
They get rid of Conway etc, we lose Miller, Riordon, palsson etc....

Will we replace these players for better??

moredun
17-05-2011, 06:06 PM
Where is your evidence we will replace the 10 left with better?

The lads we brought in recently have kept us in the SPL that's all, nothing more. The worrying thing for me is CC will be working on a tighter budget than previous years due to out low placement in the SPL this year and most likely less season tickets being sold. Not exactly encouraging me for a better quality player coming to Hibs.

As for your comment about me having more feeling towards Dundee UTD, if you want to be taken seriously in a discussion best not to resort to stupid remarks.


Fair enough, but where were we in the league with the JR's etc before the new players came in.
If we had kept the same team there is no doubt in my mind we would have been relegated

sahib
17-05-2011, 06:07 PM
Excellent move for Rankin. I never thought he was a great player for us but I often wondered why he took quite as much stick. I think he will do well in Dundee with players who have more commitment and passion than our lot.

I agree.
Not the player to build your midfield around but one who will come in and do a job and support more creative players. I think he is possibly just a tad slow to be a really good player.

scott7_0(Prague)
17-05-2011, 06:13 PM
Fair enough, but where were we in the league with the JR's etc before the new players came in.
If we had kept the same team there is no doubt in my mind we would have been relegated

And that my friend is just it. There is no evidence to suggest CC can or will bring in any better than battlers. I hope I am wrong....... Or it might be a tough season.

moredun
17-05-2011, 06:13 PM
Since 1998 Dundee Utd have finished above us 8 times including the first year when we were not even in the league. Hibs have manage to finish above Utd 6times. :agree:


And the last good few years they have been spending money they don't have, while we cut our cloth, point being they were in a stronger position by using said credit card, but now they do not have that option

THe record in the SPL between us and UTD
.........W.......D........L
Hibs- 20 .13 .13

DunblaneHibby
17-05-2011, 06:36 PM
Good luck John always gave 100% for Hibs.

Although John's ability has been questioned by a lot of fans on this site, myself included, I am not sure John's replacement Martin Scott is any better!

scott7_0(Prague)
17-05-2011, 06:38 PM
THe record in the SPL between us and UTD
.........W.......D........L
Hibs- 20 .13 .13

Pity there are other teams in the league we have to play as well. :wink:

IWasThere2016
17-05-2011, 07:10 PM
There's only one question any Hibs fan needs to ask themselves, would you rather John Rankin played regularly for Hibs, or Dundee Utd?

Not Hibs :wink: Although he might do alright for them as - as pointed out - they graft, and he might just be a.good fit.

BEEJ
17-05-2011, 08:06 PM
Good luck John always gave 100% for Hibs.

Although John's ability has been questioned by a lot of fans on this site, myself included, I am not sure John's replacement Martin Scott is any better!
I think if 'Jimmy' gets to 101 first team starts with Hibs he'll score a lot more than just 6 goals.

IWasThere2016
17-05-2011, 08:19 PM
I think if 'Jimmy' gets to 101 first team starts with Hibs he'll score a lot more than just 6 goals.

:agree: Scott is a much more effective player.

Tyler Durden
17-05-2011, 08:20 PM
John Rankin is a hard working clean living footballer and a good guy who would do anything to help and always had time to chat about football. It didnt quite work out for him at Hibs.

I wish him nothing but good fortune in his life.

That's certainly true. He was never out of the papers talking about how unlucky we were and that the league table wasn't a fair reflection, a good run was just round the corner etc.

NORTHERNHIBBY
17-05-2011, 08:32 PM
Interesting comment from Houston about signing Rankin being a clear indication that United are looking for top four again. In the 0-3 game this season, I thought he was superb. But we didn't see this enough. Not sure that United would play him alongside other tiddlers though.

TPAKA
17-05-2011, 10:58 PM
Good luck to him. He always gave his all and did not deserve the stick he took from many in the Hibs support. Whether you rated him or not he never hid and always tried to play to the best of his ability.

& he was on Man Utd's books too. :agree:

Boy was a huddy IMO, 3 touches too many to make a pass, but he could run and run though & did I mention he was with Man Utd?

Jones28
17-05-2011, 10:59 PM
And we are signing players like Vaz Te, Dickoh etc. so we will be better!!!!!

Considering neither of them play in the same position as Rankin that's a pretty poor comparison

Clearly a Striker who has played in the EPL and for the Portugal under 21's is a good signing

Dickoh is a long term investment IMHO, it takes more experience to play as a good centre back than anywhere else on the pitch. If he's at Hibs playing regular football he will only get better

TPAKA
17-05-2011, 11:02 PM
Considering neither of them play in the same position as Rankin that's a pretty poor comparison

Clearly a Striker who has played in the EPL and for the Portugal under 21's is a good signing

Dickoh is a long term investment IMHO, it takes more experience to play as a good centre back than anywhere else on the pitch. If he's at Hibs playing regular football he will only get better

Yep. Chris Hogg was a great example of this. :Ummm:

Iain G
18-05-2011, 04:06 AM
They get rid of Conway etc, we lose Miller, Riordon, palsson etc....

Will we replace these players for better??

Where is Palsson off to then?? :confused:

And most, if you ask, are nonplussed about losing Miller and Deek in the summer, given their work over the past season.

Being able to cull our squad of overpaid underachievers is a positive, CC seems to have a decent eye for a player and has the room and budget to reshape the squad to the way he would like it, lets give him a chance :agree:

Hamish
18-05-2011, 04:55 AM
John Rankin is a hard working clean living footballer and a good guy who would do anything to help and always had time to chat about football. It didnt quite work out for him at Hibs.

I wish him nothing but good fortune in his life.

This. :agree:

Dinkydoo
18-05-2011, 05:57 AM
Good luck to him; he'll not be missed that much by me.

Probably would have had him as a squad player had he stayed as he was always in peak physical condition and gave his all during games.

Jones28
18-05-2011, 06:19 AM
Yep. Chris Hogg was a great example of this. :Ummm:

When Hogg played alongside Jones he was terrific, no denying that surely?

Captaincy was the wrong move for him, it was too much of a burden which is why his form dropped

Hibernia Na Eir
18-05-2011, 06:35 AM
Get lost rankin ya dud. Arabs only signed you cause they are cost cutting now. Not cause you'll better them. And look at stats and you'll quickly see Hibs are far bigger than your new outfit. You mug.

Beefster
18-05-2011, 06:41 AM
When Hogg played alongside Jones he was terrific, no denying that surely?

Captaincy was the wrong move for him, it was too much of a burden which is why his form dropped

'Terrific' is stretching it to the limit. Jones covered Hogg's inadequacies and saved him - a lot. At no point in his Hibs career was Hogg ever terrific - and I include the season that he won POTY (which he won for lots of effort rather than any talent as a defender btw). It's similar to this season - Hanlon wins POTY despite being part of the worst defence in the SPL and being made a mug of by average players on multiple occasions but is young, came through the ranks and 'tries'.

ronaldo7
18-05-2011, 06:58 AM
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/3585804/Arabs-are-my-perfect-match.html

You were a hard working midfielder John, but I prefer my players to be of a bigger stature with lots of skill and guile. You never cut the mustard in a green jersey.

marinello59
18-05-2011, 07:20 AM
Get lost rankin ya dud. Arabs only signed you cause they are cost cutting now. Not cause you'll better them. And look at stats and you'll quickly see Hibs are far bigger than your new outfit. You mug.

Is this an example of that famous Hibs class we hear about? Poor stuff.

sahib
18-05-2011, 07:28 AM
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/3585804/Arabs-are-my-perfect-match.html

You were a hard working midfielder John, but I prefer my players to be of a bigger stature with lots of skill and guile. You never cut the mustard in a green jersey.

Who have we had that fitted those criteria?

Hamish
18-05-2011, 07:35 AM
Get lost rankin ya dud. Arabs only signed you cause they are cost cutting now. Not cause you'll better them. And look at stats and you'll quickly see Hibs are far bigger than your new outfit. You mug.

No wonder some people are getting fed up with Hibs.net.

You obviously didn't rate the lad. That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. No need for the vitriol.

James70
18-05-2011, 07:47 AM
Good luck to him, he can't be that bad a player when he manages to get fixed up with another club so quickly.

Just don't come back to ER and score a squiggler against us.

blackpoolhibs
18-05-2011, 08:07 AM
When Hogg played alongside Jones he was terrific, no denying that surely?
No, not terrific, reasonable imo
Captaincy was the wrong move for him, it was too much of a burden which is why his form dropped

How on earth do you know this, did Hogg tell you?

Baldy Foghorn
18-05-2011, 08:09 AM
Is this an example of that famous Hibs class we hear about? Poor stuff.

:agree::agree:

JR was a workhorse, maybe not the best, but no need for all the name calling now he has departed for pastures new....Classless:agree:

easty
18-05-2011, 08:39 AM
No wonder some people are getting fed up with Hibs.net.

You obviously didn't rate the lad. That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. No need for the vitriol.

Dunno about some people, but I get fed up with Hibs.net because of the amount of people so uptight that they feel the need to post things like this.

He called Rankin a mug and a dud, you need to chill.

marinello59
18-05-2011, 09:00 AM
Dunno about some people, but I get fed up with Hibs.net because of the amount of people so uptight that they feel the need to post things like this.

He called Rankin a mug and a dud, you need to chill.

Haven't you just got uptight and felt the need to criticise somebody else's post.
Maybe you need to chill. :greengrin

johnrebus
18-05-2011, 09:11 AM
I don't feel the need to slag off John Rankin, I just wish I had been able to see him play a bit more.

His name appeared on the teamsheets and was announced as being in the team prior to matches, but he seemed to playing the part of the invisible man more often than not.

:hmmm:

easty
18-05-2011, 09:17 AM
Haven't you just got uptight and felt the need to criticise somebody else's post.
Maybe you need to chill. :greengrin

I'm never uptight, I'm as downloose as they come.:greengrin

Jones28
18-05-2011, 10:24 AM
How on earth do you know this, did Hogg tell you?

Yes actually

Ofcourse he didnt tell me, anyone with eyes and half a football brain could see being captain had a negative effect on hoggs performance.

He was terrific in my opinion and reasonable in yours. What's your point?

Jones28
18-05-2011, 10:27 AM
'Terrific' is stretching it to the limit. Jones covered Hogg's inadequacies and saved him - a lot. At no point in his Hibs career was Hogg ever terrific - and I include the season that he won POTY (which he won for lots of effort rather than any talent as a defender btw). It's similar to this season - Hanlon wins POTY despite being part of the worst defence in the SPL and being made a mug of by average players on multiple occasions but is young, came through the ranks and 'tries'.

Hogg won POTY when we had some talented players in the team, Hanlon won it this year with considerably less talent alongside him.
It's just my opinion, take it or leave it.

MussiHibee
18-05-2011, 11:18 AM
"I feel I'm moving to a bigger club in United.

"It's a step up the ladder, not a step down."

I don't think United are a bigger club than Hibs. Granted they have done better than us in recent seasons I just think we are underperforming coupled with previous managers signing absolute urine.

easty
18-05-2011, 11:31 AM
"I feel I'm moving to a bigger club in United.

"It's a step up the ladder, not a step down."

I don't think United are a bigger club than Hibs. Granted they have done better than us in recent seasons I just think we are underperforming coupled with previous managers signing absolute urine.

Really though, it's standard stuff to say. He's not going to sign for them then tell the press he wishes he was still at Hibs becuase Dundee Utd aren't as big a club.

Jones28
18-05-2011, 11:33 AM
Based on this season it's a step up for him.

blackpoolhibs
18-05-2011, 11:34 AM
Yes actually

Ofcourse he didnt tell me, anyone with eyes and half a football brain could see being captain had a negative effect on hoggs performance.

He was terrific in my opinion and reasonable in yours. What's your point?

So it was a guess, and you have put 2 and 2 together. Terrific, naw. Now he's not captain of Hibs, he should find a new club no bother then.

Hamish
18-05-2011, 03:24 PM
Dunno about some people, but I get fed up with Hibs.net because of the amount of people so uptight that they feel the need to post things like this.

He called Rankin a mug and a dud, you need to chill.

:grr::grr::grr::grr:


:greengrin

moredun
18-05-2011, 06:33 PM
They get rid of Conway etc, we lose Miller, Riordon, palsson etc....

Will we replace these players for better??


Miller?

The same one who has tried leg a couple of times in 2 years?

Deeks i will give you, if he leaves

But the point being, we will be able to offer far better wages than UTD, as they are struggling financially now.

So while we slowly progress financially, UTD are going to be where we were 4/5 years ago, therein is the difference, all the while we were cutting the cloth UTD were getting deeper and deeper in the red.
UTD will struggle for the top six next season.
If Houston thinks he will be a fans favoiurite then that says it all about his eye for a player, as said before, his team was full of Harry Potters players who were all bought and paid for on tick.
No more credit and Houston in charge, after his comments about JR, imo they will be a poor side next season

moredun
18-05-2011, 06:36 PM
Pity there are other teams in the league we have to play as well. :wink:


Yeah but just pointing this out as the topic was about the two teams, i reckon they probably got most of they wins on the back of us cutting cloth and them using the credit card.

essexhibee
18-05-2011, 09:10 PM
John rankin is *****.

Gave his all yes but I would give my all for hibs doesn't mean I bring anything to the team. Not bothered about him going to utd just shows where they are going (downwards) only bad thing is that it limits the amount of competition for hearts and third position.

ronaldo7
18-05-2011, 09:21 PM
Who have we had that fitted those criteria?

Peter Guggi, Benny Brazil, or you could have Sauzee, Stanton, or Boozy.

You choose:wink: