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Dunbar Hibee
08-03-2011, 12:09 PM
Just seen on his facebook page that he went to see the specialist today and found out he has ligament damage! Not good!!

poolman
08-03-2011, 12:12 PM
Just seen on his facebook page that he went to see the specialist today and found out he has ligament damage! Not good!!


He'll be out for a while with that then

Liam89
08-03-2011, 12:12 PM
I saw that too.
"Absolutely gutted!!" He says :boo hoo:

Liam89
08-03-2011, 12:13 PM
Update: He says he'll be out for 10 weeks.

Golden Bear
08-03-2011, 12:19 PM
Is he worth a new contract or not?

That is the question.

:hmmm:

Wotherspiniesta
08-03-2011, 12:19 PM
Feel for the guy.

He'll have to hope he's shown enough in the last few weeks to earn a new contract.

Given his injury record (as unfortunate as this particular one was), I think the best he could hope for is a pay-as-you-play type deal.

JimBHibees
08-03-2011, 12:19 PM
Update: He says he'll be out for 10 weeks.

So to end of the season then.

offshorehibby
08-03-2011, 12:24 PM
To be honest we can't afford to be giving contracts to guys who are only going to play a handful of games a season. 26 games in 2 seasons.

GreenPJ
08-03-2011, 12:31 PM
A pay as you play contract (or very low basic supplemented by good appearance money). You have to assume Calderwood signed Divis with the intention of being No 1 next season so that gives Stack something to aim for to make up the money.

I would not mind keeping Brown but think Calderwood probably has a higher regard for Stack subject to the injuries.

hibsbollah
08-03-2011, 12:35 PM
To be honest we can't afford to be giving contracts to guys who are only going to play a handful of games a season. 26 games in 2 seasons.

He's no more likely to get another injury than any other player. Its just bad luck.

Diclonius
08-03-2011, 12:35 PM
That'll be him then sadly. All the best Graham.

Stevie Reid
08-03-2011, 12:39 PM
I think that we should offer him another year, and I think CC will. It may not be on the same terms but the power lies with the club.

(((Fergus)))
08-03-2011, 12:55 PM
He's no more likely to get another injury than any other player. Its just bad luck.

I wish that was true but it seems to me that certain people are predisposed to certain types of injuries - just as some people hardly ever seem to get hurt.

Speedway
08-03-2011, 12:59 PM
We need to have a whip round to cheer him up and buy him some peanut brittle.

easty
08-03-2011, 01:01 PM
That McLaughlin for Hamilton is an ********. Totally deliberate and unnecessary challenge that lead to this injury. I hope he picks up a bad injury from a terrible tackle sometime soon.

easty
08-03-2011, 01:08 PM
I wish that was true but it seems to me that certain people are predisposed to certain types of injuries - just as some people hardly ever seem to get hurt.

:agree:

Good keeper when fit, but financially it doesn't make sense to keep him on. We don't have the budget to go handing out contracts to players who aren't fit to play.

As for a pay as you play type deal, then that would mean we bring have to have another keeper available as back up, just in case Stack wasn't fit for a place in the match squad. We should have 2 decent keepers fighting for the jersey + at least 1 young keeper on the books just incase of injury. Stack doesn't fit into that, for me anyway.

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08-03-2011, 01:19 PM
He's no more likely to get another injury than any other player. Its just bad luck.


Am I right in thinking that his last absence was to deal with his back injury, and that that has been sorted?

If so, then I would agree that he's no more likely to get another bad injury than anyone else. If the report mentioned here is right, he has ten weeks to recover from this, plus the close season - he should be OK for the start of next season?

IMO Stack, Brown and Divis would be a proper complement of keepers for next season - provided they're all fit. There has to be a question about Stack, though, and it may be that CC will decide it isn't worth the risk to extend his contract.

But I'd be extremely sorry if that's the outcome, because Stack seems to me to be exactly the keeper we need to steady and stiffen our back four and I'd like to keep him. No one can plan or legislate for the sort of thing that happened at Hamilton - no 'bad luck' about that injury, IMO. That was a foul, and a very dangerous one, and McLaughlin should have walked.

I don't like to think of the guy losing his chance of a new deal because he was clattered by an ugly big thug - McLaughlin shouldn't be allowed the satisfaction of knowing he ended Graham Stack's time at Hibs.

Sir David Gray
08-03-2011, 01:27 PM
I feel for Stack, I really do, as he is a good 'keeper.

However, I don't see how it makes financial sense to renew his contract as he has been injured a lot during his time with Hibs and I think we could get another 'keeper who is just as good as Stack on similar terms.

If he does leave in the summer, I wish him all the best as he has served the club well and if he can keep himself fit, he'll do very well at quite a good level.

MrSmith
08-03-2011, 01:36 PM
I really think we need a Graham Stack type at the club! No disrespect to Mr Thompson our goalkeeping coach but ... I much prefer Stack to be in that position come the new season!

seanraff07
08-03-2011, 01:38 PM
I hope we offer him a new contract, can't really see it though.

PeterboroHibee
08-03-2011, 01:40 PM
I feel for Stack, I really do, as he is a good 'keeper.

However, I don't see how it makes financial sense to renew his contract as he has been injured a lot during his time with Hibs and I think we could get another 'keeper who is just as good as Stack on similar terms.

If he does leave in the summer, I wish him all the best as he has served the club well and if he can keep himself fit, he'll do very well at quite a good level.

Agree with this.

I know this injury isnt the same one that was keeping him out before, but it is yet another period of time where we arent going to have what was looking like our number 1 keeper available. I do like Stack, think he could have been an excellent keeper for us, had all the ability as well as the personality to control the defence. But hes just been far too injury prone to be offered a new deal imo, we need consistancy in the team and unfortunately I feel we are going to have to look elsewhere.

blackpoolhibs
08-03-2011, 03:21 PM
I really think we need a Graham Stack type at the club! No disrespect to Mr Thompson our goalkeeping coach but ... I much prefer Stack to be in that position come the new season!

Hallelujah, we have a successor to Gordon Marshall. :faf:

Hibbie_Cameron
08-03-2011, 03:24 PM
I hope we offer him a new contract, can't really see it though.

I do too. Such a needless/harsh challenge from the Hamilton player as well.

Terrible luck

Beefster
08-03-2011, 03:35 PM
If Calderwood wants him and Stack is prepared to take a chance on a contract that suits Hibs and takes into account his absences, I'd give him another year or two.

blackpoolhibs
08-03-2011, 03:36 PM
If Calderwood wants him and Stack is prepared to take a chance on a contract that suits Hibs and takes into account his absences, I'd give him another year or two.

:agree:

hibsbollah
08-03-2011, 04:16 PM
I wish that was true but it seems to me that certain people are predisposed to certain types of injuries - just as some people hardly ever seem to get hurt.

If he had a history of shoulder dislocations caused by awkward landings, id agree with you, but he doesnt.

Folk who say Zemmama or Stack are 'injury prone' and are more likely to get injured again than anyone else are misunderstanding the laws of probability and human biology. Theres probably only a few dozen genuinely 'injury prone' players, physiologically speaking. Stack is unlucky.

Cropley10
08-03-2011, 04:20 PM
He's no more likely to get another injury than any other player. Its just bad luck.

:agree::agree:

We could let Stack go put Divis in goal and he could get injured and never play again. That's football.

All these wannabe football managers thinking that players do 'pay as you play' deals.... does my nut. :grr:

It's not like Stack wanted to get injured or limped off with a dead leg, he's had an accident, an entirely avoidable one, but one that wasn't his fault. Same with Zouma - the boy ruptured his cruciate just like Arteta did. That's a real sore one, a common football injury, but one that you can fully recover from now after surgery and proper rehab.

machibby
08-03-2011, 04:54 PM
Think if he hadn't been so unlucky with that poor challenge and had seen out the season for us in the form he was in we'd all be champing at the bit for him to get a new deal. In an age wher we're all constantly moaning about players lack of loyalty I hope CC rewards him for the way he's helped the club over the last few weeks with a deal.

MrSmith
08-03-2011, 05:25 PM
Hallelujah, we have a successor to Gordon Marshall. :faf:

Sorry BP, I'm not quite getting you here because Gordon Marshall was emptied nearly two years ago.

Speedway
08-03-2011, 06:27 PM
If he had a history of shoulder dislocations caused by awkward landings, id agree with you, but he doesnt.

Folk who say Zemmama or Stack are 'injury prone' and are more likely to get injured again than anyone else are misunderstanding the laws of probability and human biology. Theres probably only a few dozen genuinely 'injury prone' players, physiologically speaking. Stack is unlucky.

What, his entire career?

Surely if a player consistently carried out poor warm ups for instance, he would be more injury prone than one that prepared well for a match, no?

hibsbollah
08-03-2011, 07:22 PM
What, his entire career?

Surely if a player consistently carried out poor warm ups for instance, he would be more injury prone than one that prepared well for a match, no?

That player would be prone to recurrent epidodes of the same kinds of injuries again and again (probably muscle sprains). It wouldnt explain various different types of injuries (cruciate, contact dislocations etc) happening regularly.