Scott Brown - Legend

[jdships]

I don't disagree, but both have won more and one in particular has done a lot more than Stanton and Riordan will ever do or have done in their careers.

One has had more ambition so far than both Stanton and Riordan, and the other could play in the EPL if he wants IN THE FUTURE.

I dislike Brown and Thomson with a passion, and neither are or even in the future will come anywhere near being a Hibs legend, but this whole thread has gone a long way away from what the original poster was meaning.

No way was it meant as Brown being a Hibs legend, just pointing out what he did was funny, and we loved him when he did it in our jersey.


What has ambition got to do with this ?
Anyway how do you know what ambitions PS and DR had/have ?
For all you know they may have achieved everything they set out to do
I was a neighbour of PS's for a number of years and his ambition always came accross as making a good life for his family - just as important ,if not more so , as winning medals for kicking a ball about .
Ambition is like beauty " it is in the eye of the beholder" :greengrin

[jdships]

A smile and a wink in Diouf's direction when he scored would have been miles more effective than the ridiculous posture he adopted.

:top marks

[Sir David Gray]

First, they're one of two clubs that have made serious (and almost successful) efforts to put Hibs completely out of business. For this reason they're hardly top of my 'most popular competitors' list.

Second, it wasn't so long ago that the South Stand was full of banners celebrating the fact that we had been thier 'feeder club' since 1888 - you must remember this - it was the banner where they mis-spelled 'Celtc'?

Third, the assumption by many of their supporters that somehow or other Hibs are Celtic's 'wee brothers' and that when we play them we have some sort of obligation to lie down to them - we're supposed to prefer THEM to win the League rather than Rangers. Personally, I couldn't care less which of the gruesome twosome win anything - they're joined at the hip, two sides of one totally unacceptable elemant of Scottish society.

Third, I never have, do not, and never will go all goo-goo and sentimental over any player who, like Brown, uses Hibs as a nothing more than a stepping-stone to a big contract with either of the OF. And who cares so little for the club that he's prepared to do damage to it, to hold it to ransom?

A player who behaves in the way Brown and Thomson did in engineering their move - Collins, also a fine midfielder with Hibs and new in the job, surely deserved a little better from players of the 'stature' and importance to the club of these two? Has everyone forgotten that the two of them were working together, with the same agent? I'm supposed to be grateful that Brown stayed six months longer than Katie - and was well-paid for doing so?

A player who caused months of strife and disruption at the club - disruption we could well have done without; and a player who I say again I am quite convinced was implicated in the dressing-room rebellion that spelled out the beginning of the end for JC?

We were told that 19 players arrived on RP's doorstep that night - no names have been mentioned, but do you seriously expect me to believe that Brown wasn't among them? Scotty stayed at home watching 'Desperate Housewives' while the others went off on the demo? I must be much, much more cynical than you, or perhaps you're much more naive than I am, but Brown doesn't come over to me as one who forgives easily or forgets, and Brown was the guy Collins showed up in the gym when he came in as manager.

If Whittaker had scored this afternoon, and got in Brown's face the way Brown got in Diouf's, would we have had this thread? I really don't think we would, and that bothers me, because it suggests that some of us are still hankering after hanging on Celtic's coat-tails. Bad enough that they despise us, but I don't have to like it.

Like I said - some of the posts on here would fit in on Kerrydale Street without breaking the pattern in the least. Actually, Kerrydale Street's a good site to go to to find out what the Celtic supporters really think of Hibs.


It only takes a few keystrokes once in a long while. Don't think I'm a regular - my immune system isn't of the best and prolonged exposure to to KS or any other Celtic-dominated environment would certainly lead to severe health issues.

We used to have a missionary come over here from KS to convert us to right-thinking Plastic Oirish Paddies, but Jack hasn't been around for a while. Maybe they've killed and eaten him.

Truth is, while I've never doubted Brown's ability, he was never a player I liked. (I don't like Diouf either, tbh.)

I know good players at ER are looking for the big move, but not every player who leaves ER engineers that move in as nasty and cynical a manner as did KT and SB. And in my experience the player instructs the agent, not the other way round. They didn't have to treat the club or the manager as badly as they did. Lots of fine players have left ER in the years I've followed Hibs, but the Brown/Thomson saga was the worst I can remember for disruption, nastiness and venom.

I do not like either Celtic or Rangers, but I'm old enough to remember when a certain section of the Hibs support automatically supported Celtic in OF games on the basis that Hibs were an Irish club like Celtic. And we sang the songs they sang, too. I don't want to see it back. We aren't Celtic clones.


PS: You DID have all your inoculations before you went on K'dale St? I wouldn't like you to come down with anything nasty....

:top marks Two of the best posts I have read on here for some time.

The bits in bold in particular are absolutely spot on.

It really beats me why any Hibs fan would favour Celtic over Rangers, for the reasons that you have already outlined in great detail. Before anyone says anything, I don't expect anyone to want Rangers to win either. For me, watching Rangers v Celtic is a bit like watching Barcelona v Real Madrid, in the sense that I couldn't care less who wins, I just want to see a bit of good football and maybe a flashpoint or six.

We are a club in our own right, we are not part of any Celtic franchise and I would prefer that we were nothing like them in any way.

I know you made reference to a time when Hibs fans used to support Celtic when they played Rangers. I know it was probably more prevalent 40 or 50 years ago but I remember watching an Old Firm game in Behind The Goals a couple of years ago and when Celtic scored, a massive cheer went up in the whole room. When Rangers scored later on in the game to equalise, you hardly heard a thing.

I don't expect anyone to cheer a Rangers goal against anybody (except Hearts) but I found the different reactions to those two goals that day quite embarrassing, if truth be told.

Maybe some Hibs fans should read up a bit on the early history of our club and see then if they still have a preference for Celtic over another club.

I despise Celtic as an organisation, I despise their fans (collectively at least, I'm sure there are a lot of wonderful individuals out there who have the misfortune of being a Celtic fan), I despise their manager, I despise their chairman, I despise everything that they stand for and the thought of Hibs becoming anything like that mob makes me feel physically sick.

[Bad Martini]

Gordon Smith was a legend. Bobby Johnstone was a legend. Willie Ormond was a legend. Lawrie Reilly is a legend. Eddie Turnbull is a legend.

Pat Stanton is a legend.

Scott Brown is not a legend. Scott Brown handed in a transfer request mid-season, helped unsettle the dressing room where Collins was trying hard to stabilise and keep things going as we progressed in the cup and ultimately took that silverware....Brown, with his wee hun bound pal and both collectively said "**** you" to the Hibs fans in doing so, lost any respect he deserved, regardless of how much we got for him.

Nae ****ing legend in my eyes. Left with no honour and as for the comparison to Stanton - different page. Did Stanton do any of that??? Nope. And never would. Stanton could have played for Satan himself and still retained respect. He EARNED it. And he never screwed Hibs. And never would.

Brown, Thomson, Whittaker and everyone else who is NOT at Easter Road but playing against us, is, against us. I have no time for those who leave us. They are all against us and can ALL **** off.

ENDOF

[Peevemor]

Gordon Smith was a legend. Bobby Johnstone was a legend. Willie Ormond was a legend. Lawrie Reilly is a legend. Eddie Turnbull is a legend.

Pat Stanton is a legend.

Scott Brown is not a legend. Scott Brown handed in a transfer request mid-season, helped unsettle the dressing room where Collins was trying hard to stabilise and keep things going as we progressed in the cup and ultimately took that silverware....Brown, with his wee hun bound pal and both collectively said "**** you" to the Hibs fans in doing so, lost any respect he deserved, regardless of how much we got for him.

Nae ****ing legend in my eyes. Left with no honour and as for the comparison to Stanton - different page. Did Stanton do any of that??? Nope. And never would. Stanton could have played for Satan himself and still retained respect. He EARNED it. And he never screwed Hibs. And never would.

Brown, Thomson, Whittaker and everyone else who is NOT at Easter Road but playing against us, is, against us. I have no time for those who leave us. They are all against us and can ALL **** off.

ENDOF

Well said!

[blackpoolhibs]

What has ambition got to do with this ?
Anyway how do you know what ambitions PS and DR had/have ?
For all you know they may have achieved everything they set out to do
I was a neighbour of PS's for a number of years and his ambition always came accross as making a good life for his family - just as important ,if not more so , as winning medals for kicking a ball about .
Ambition is like beauty " it is in the eye of the beholder" :greengrin

:agree: Although tricla was saying Thomson and Brown had no ambition. And mentioned Pat and Deek in the same sentance. As much as i dont like the twins, they have fulfilled quite a lot of what their early ambitions would have been, and there's still time for them to reach more.

[green&left]

Gordon Smith was a legend. Bobby Johnstone was a legend. Willie Ormond was a legend. Lawrie Reilly is a legend. Eddie Turnbull is a legend.

Pat Stanton is a legend.

Scott Brown is not a legend. Scott Brown handed in a transfer request mid-season, helped unsettle the dressing room where Collins was trying hard to stabilise and keep things going as we progressed in the cup and ultimately took that silverware....Brown, with his wee hun bound pal and both collectively said "**** you" to the Hibs fans in doing so, lost any respect he deserved, regardless of how much we got for him.

Nae ****ing legend in my eyes. Left with no honour and as for the comparison to Stanton - different page. Did Stanton do any of that??? Nope. And never would. Stanton could have played for Satan himself and still retained respect. He EARNED it. And he never screwed Hibs. And never would.

Brown, Thomson, Whittaker and everyone else who is NOT at Easter Road but playing against us, is, against us. I have no time for those who leave us. They are all against us and can ALL **** off.

ENDOF

Spon on :cool2:

[Captain Trips]

Gordon Smith was a legend. Bobby Johnstone was a legend. Willie Ormond was a legend. Lawrie Reilly is a legend. Eddie Turnbull is a legend.

Pat Stanton is a legend.

Scott Brown is not a legend. Scott Brown handed in a transfer request mid-season, helped unsettle the dressing room where Collins was trying hard to stabilise and keep things going as we progressed in the cup and ultimately took that silverware....Brown, with his wee hun bound pal and both collectively said "**** you" to the Hibs fans in doing so, lost any respect he deserved, regardless of how much we got for him.

Nae ****ing legend in my eyes. Left with no honour and as for the comparison to Stanton - different page. Did Stanton do any of that??? Nope. And never would. Stanton could have played for Satan himself and still retained respect. He EARNED it. And he never screwed Hibs. And never would.

Brown, Thomson, Whittaker and everyone else who is NOT at Easter Road but playing against us, is, against us. I have no time for those who leave us. They are all against us and can ALL **** off.

ENDOF

100% agree word for word BM as I usually do.

[GraniteCityHibs]

oh good this one's still going....:rolleyes:

[Dinkydoo]

Scott Brown was a Hibs legend in my eyes, for the part he played in creating one of the best days of my life and for being a personal favourite when he was at the club.

For someone to sit and say that your opinion of someone is wrong is laughable, it's their opinion which is completely subjective and thats that.

Saying that, he acted like a bit of a tit yesterday but what he does or doesn't do in Celtic top has no bearing on his Hibs status and why should it.

[clerriehibs]

Gordon Smith was a legend. Bobby Johnstone was a legend. Willie Ormond was a legend. Lawrie Reilly is a legend. Eddie Turnbull is a legend.

Pat Stanton is a legend.

Scott Brown is not a legend. Scott Brown handed in a transfer request mid-season, helped unsettle the dressing room where Collins was trying hard to stabilise and keep things going as we progressed in the cup and ultimately took that silverware....Brown, with his wee hun bound pal and both collectively said "**** you" to the Hibs fans in doing so, lost any respect he deserved, regardless of how much we got for him.

Nae ****ing legend in my eyes. Left with no honour and as for the comparison to Stanton - different page. Did Stanton do any of that??? Nope. And never would. Stanton could have played for Satan himself and still retained respect. He EARNED it. And he never screwed Hibs. And never would.

Brown, Thomson, Whittaker and everyone else who is NOT at Easter Road but playing against us, is, against us. I have no time for those who leave us. They are all against us and can ALL **** off.

ENDOF

That problem with the dressing room is still a problem to this day. That that group of players, whilst eventually lifting the CIS cup, have left us with this widely commented on "player power" trouble at ER. Hopefully CC is the man to clear out the rot.

And Pat Stanton; certainly a legend, certainly holds our club in high regard, not a bad word to say about him ... except, why did you let your son support anyone but Hibs, Pat?!?!

[easty]

Gordon Smith was a legend. Bobby Johnstone was a legend. Willie Ormond was a legend. Lawrie Reilly is a legend. Eddie Turnbull is a legend.

Pat Stanton is a legend.

Scott Brown is not a legend. Scott Brown handed in a transfer request mid-season, helped unsettle the dressing room where Collins was trying hard to stabilise and keep things going as we progressed in the cup and ultimately took that silverware....Brown, with his wee hun bound pal and both collectively said "**** you" to the Hibs fans in doing so, lost any respect he deserved, regardless of how much we got for him.

Nae ****ing legend in my eyes. Left with no honour and as for the comparison to Stanton - different page. Did Stanton do any of that??? Nope. And never would. Stanton could have played for Satan himself and still retained respect. He EARNED it. And he never screwed Hibs. And never would.

Brown, Thomson, Whittaker and everyone else who is NOT at Easter Road but playing against us, is, against us. I have no time for those who leave us. They are all against us and can ALL **** off.

ENDOF

It was a different game when Stanton was playing than it is today, if Stanton was with us nowadays he'd up and leave, for the money, just like anyone else would.

I wouldn't say Scott Brown was a legend at Hibs, he wasn't here long enough and didn't achieve nearly enough to warrant 'Legend' status. But he was quality, one of the best players I've seen play for us.

[3pm]

There is no way Brown is a legend. I saw him eating a Dominoes Pizza one night.

[Brizo]

Um, completely differently because that's the whole point?

Your argument falls squarely into the "if ma auntie had baws she would be ma uncle" camp.

So your argument is that if someone acts in an unprofessional loutish and inflammatory way on the pitch when playing for another club its somehow okay because they used to play for Hibs:confused:

I can just about understand fans conveniently ignoring a players petulant and snide behaviour when they play for Hibs , but to still be thinking theres something admirable about that behaviour long after theyve gone ....

Guys like Stanton and Reilly are legends because as well as what they achieved on the pitch they behaved with class and dignity. Those qualities are imo just as important in awarding the title legend to anyone. However succesful Brown becomes he has no class and no dignity.

[johnrebus]

For anyone to try to compare Scott Brown with the likes of Pat Stanton, Gordon Smith, Lawrie Reilly or Eddie Turnbull is actually pretty offensive in my book.

It should also be said that his actions yesterday were that of a man with a real problem - although he is hardly alone at Celtic Park in that respect.

He may not be the brightest button in the box, but as the captain of Celtic and knowing about the ridiculous position the Old Firm match holds in Scottish society, he should be acting in an adult, responsible manner. Never mind the SFA or such like, the Glasgow polis should be having a serious word with him about his behaviour.

I just wish these two clubs would **** off and play each other every week on a desert island somewhere and give the rest of us peace.

:rolleyes:

[Expecting Rain]

What an embarrassing thread this is, lauding Scott Brown for being totally immature, the guy needs to grow up, he obviously learnt nothing from the occasion when Thompson of Celtic took him out of the action at Easter Road.
He`s a Scotland internationalist and captain of Celtic, i`d guess that even a large percentage of his own fans wouldn`t have been impressed with his behaviour.

[johnrebus]

It was a different game when Stanton was playing than it is today, if Stanton was with us nowadays he'd up and leave, for the money, just like anyone else would. I wouldn't say Scott Brown was a legend at Hibs, he wasn't here long enough and didn't achieve nearly enough to warrant 'Legend' status. But he was quality, one of the best players I've seen play for us.

Not so.

Malcolm Allison, when manager at Manchester City, offered Hibs (and Stanton) a blank cheque to move south.


:not worth

[easty]

Not so.

Malcolm Allison, when manager at Manchester City, offered Hibs (and Stanton) a blank cheque to move south.


:not worth

I cant pretend to know the details of this but was this 'blank cheque' going to mean an huge rise in wages? Huge being like a rise of 1000%, becuase that's what we're looking at these days for players like Brown leaving Hibs.

If, in the case of Stanton, it was a rise of anywhere near this amount then I'm happy to admit I was wrong. I'd be surprised though.

[silverhibee]

Whats your beef with Brown Silver?

Once again this has nothing to do with Derek, i just find it hard that SB is getting legeng status from some on hear after the way he and KT treated the club and the fans regarding there move, yet KT is treated as a the bad guy in it all when really they were as bad as each other when demanding there move from Hibs.
I have no beef with Brown Greenlex, but he seems to get an easier time than his mate KT does on here over there time at Hibs and how they went about getting there move.

[silverhibee]

Brown's transfer request was handed in straight after a defeat IIRC. Hardly the actions of a legend.
I don't really blame either player for wanting to chase the money. It's their careers. But I really don't understand why KT's behaviour has been considered worse than Broon's. It looked like they were working in tandem to me.

This would have been a better answer to Greenlex than mine's. :greengrin

[blackpoolhibs]

Once again this has nothing to do with Derek, i just find it hard that SB is getting legeng status from some on hear after the way he and KT treated the club and the fans regarding there move, yet KT is treated as a the bad guy in it all when really they were as bad as each other when demanding there move from Hibs.
I have no beef with Brown Greenlex, but he seems to get an easier time than his mate KT does on here over there time at Hibs and how they went about getting there move.

I agree SH, what Derek had to do with this thread is beyond me? FWIW i dont think many are saying Brown is a legend, although those that are younger could think he was, and who's to say they are wrong, as in their eyes he is?

The beans man should be along soon to tell you and i why Brown gets an easier ride than thomson, something to do with what he said being taken out of context i think? Gramo will soon clear it up though. :wink:

[7Hero]

Gordon Smith was a legend. Bobby Johnstone was a legend. Willie Ormond was a legend. Lawrie Reilly is a legend. Eddie Turnbull is a legend.

Pat Stanton is a legend.

Scott Brown is not a legend. Scott Brown handed in a transfer request mid-season, helped unsettle the dressing room where Collins was trying hard to stabilise and keep things going as we progressed in the cup and ultimately took that silverware....Brown, with his wee hun bound pal and both collectively said "**** you" to the Hibs fans in doing so, lost any respect he deserved, regardless of how much we got for him.

Nae ****ing legend in my eyes. Left with no honour and as for the comparison to Stanton - different page. Did Stanton do any of that??? Nope. And never would. Stanton could have played for Satan himself and still retained respect. He EARNED it. And he never screwed Hibs. And never would.

Brown, Thomson, Whittaker and everyone else who is NOT at Easter Road but playing against us, is, against us. I have no time for those who leave us. They are all against us and can ALL **** off.

ENDOF

another brilliant post, tame :greengrin but brilliant...

[One Day Soon]

A smile and a wink in Diouf's direction when he scored would have been miles more effective than the ridiculous posture he adopted.

Really? Why?

[One Day Soon]

:top marks Two of the best posts I have read on here for some time.

The bits in bold in particular are absolutely spot on.

It really beats me why any Hibs fan would favour Celtic over Rangers, for the reasons that you have already outlined in great detail. Before anyone says anything, I don't expect anyone to want Rangers to win either. For me, watching Rangers v Celtic is a bit like watching Barcelona v Real Madrid, in the sense that I couldn't care less who wins, I just want to see a bit of good football and maybe a flashpoint or six.

We are a club in our own right, we are not part of any Celtic franchise and I would prefer that we were nothing like them in any way.

I know you made reference to a time when Hibs fans used to support Celtic when they played Rangers. I know it was probably more prevalent 40 or 50 years ago but I remember watching an Old Firm game in Behind The Goals a couple of years ago and when Celtic scored, a massive cheer went up in the whole room. When Rangers scored later on in the game to equalise, you hardly heard a thing.

I don't expect anyone to cheer a Rangers goal against anybody (except Hearts) but I found the different reactions to those two goals that day quite embarrassing, if truth be told.

Maybe some Hibs fans should read up a bit on the early history of our club and see then if they still have a preference for Celtic over another club.

I despise Celtic as an organisation, I despise their fans (collectively at least, I'm sure there are a lot of wonderful individuals out there who have the misfortune of being a Celtic fan), I despise their manager, I despise their chairman, I despise everything that they stand for and the thought of Hibs becoming anything like that mob makes me feel physically sick.

I agree with you except for one quite important thing - no-one as far as I can see has been favouring Celtc over Rangers. In fact the comment on this from some posters here smacks far more of a sensitivity towards Rangers than anything else for whatever unfortunate range of reasons.

[One Day Soon]

So your argument is that if someone acts in an unprofessional loutish and inflammatory way on the pitch when playing for another club its somehow okay because they used to play for Hibs:confused:

I can just about understand fans conveniently ignoring a players petulant and snide behaviour when they play for Hibs , but to still be thinking theres something admirable about that behaviour long after theyve gone ....

Guys like Stanton and Reilly are legends because as well as what they achieved on the pitch they behaved with class and dignity. Those qualities are imo just as important in awarding the title legend to anyone. However succesful Brown becomes he has no class and no dignity.

For a start I don't accept that he was behaving in an unprofessional loutish and inflammatory way. He scored a goal that kept his team in the cup when they were down to ten men. He celebrated but didn't move to do so. Yes it was cocky and yes it was meant to be at Diouf. If deeks for example did the same thing at Gorgie it would be treated as completely acceptable. As for claiming he was petulant when he played for us - dearie, dearie me. If we had seen even half of that fight and grit in our players over the last year and more we wouldn't have had the ridiculous managerial merry go round we have had to endure.

[--------]

For anyone to try to compare Scott Brown with the likes of Pat Stanton, Gordon Smith, Lawrie Reilly or Eddie Turnbull is actually pretty offensive in my book.

It should also be said that his actions yesterday were that of a man with a real problem - although he is hardly alone at Celtic Park in that respect.

He may not be the brightest button in the box, but as the captain of Celtic and knowing about the ridiculous position the Old Firm match holds in Scottish society, he should be acting in an adult, responsible manner. Never mind the SFA or such like, the Glasgow polis should be having a serious word with him about his behaviour.

I just wish these two clubs would **** off and play each other every week on a desert island somewhere and give the rest of us peace.

:rolleyes:


:agree: Mine too.

I also agree with you about his immaturity and irresponsibility. He winds up Diouf - if Diouf had reacted the way Scotty was no doubt hoping he would, we could have seen major trouble on and off the pitch.

Brown isn't really that much different in attitude and character from his manager, IMO. Lennon and Brown - made for one another.

[greenlex]

:agree: Mine too.

I also agree with you about his immaturity and irresponsibility. He winds up Diouf - if Diouf had reacted the way Scotty was no doubt hoping he would, we could have seen major trouble on and off the pitch.

Brown isn't really that much different in attitude and character from his manager, IMO. Lennon and Brown - made for one another.


I bet the two of them are completely different characters away fromtheir work. A bit like you must be Doddie.

[--------]

I bet the two of them are completely different characters away fromtheir work. A bit like you must be Doddie.


Maybe. :devil:

[blackpoolhibs]

Erich Shaedler, John Blackley, Alex Edwards all did things that could have caused Riots, in fact did cause fights between fans when we played the old firm, especially the huns. I remember at the time thinking its was terrific, they wound the team and the fans up.

The one thing that is similar with all those players imo, is they are all winners, and had a nasty streak.

We could all have players who behave like Gary Lineker, never putting a foot wrong. But give me the type that have fire in their belly, give me the maverick type. They are the ones that put a smile on my face at football, they are the ones who i prefer to watch, 11 Gary Linekers would make the game so boring, we'd have nothing to talk about other than the match

Browns actions while at Hibs, the blowing a kiss at Hartley was also petulant, immature, but we all loved it while he was a Hibby. If Brown had done that on Sunday for celtic rangers or east stirling, i certainly would still have enjoyed it

[Brizo]

For a start I don't accept that he was behaving in an unprofessional loutish and inflammatory way. He scored a goal that kept his team in the cup when they were down to ten men. He celebrated but didn't move to do so. Yes it was cocky and yes it was meant to be at Diouf. If deeks for example did the same thing at Gorgie it would be treated as completely acceptable. As for claiming he was petulant when he played for us - dearie, dearie me. If we had seen even half of that fight and grit in our players over the last year and more we wouldn't have had the ridiculous managerial merry go round we have had to endure.

We will agree to disagree whether his behaviour , and not just after the goal but also earlier asides to Diouf , was unprofessional , loutish and inflammatory.

He showed fantastic fight and grit for Hibs but also dispayed a petulant and snide side to his game which was unnecessary and served no positive purpose, as he could get involved in running fueds with oppostion players which detracted from his and the teams performance. Im all for players showing fight and grit but it doesnt need to be accompanied by behind the refs back immature wideo antics.

Brown has carried forward that petulant snide side to his Scotland and Celtc career. If he tries to wind up one of our players and get them sent off next time we play Celtc will you still be singing his praises ?

[HibbyAndy]

Broony celebrating right under Diouf's nose brought a wry smile to my face :agree:

Top class goal from a top class player, Take him back in a heartbeat to Easter road.

[CB_NO3]

Broony celebrating right under Diouf's nose brought a wry smile to my face :agree:

Top class goal from a top class player, Take him back in a heartbeat to Easter road.
Scott Brown is an ok player. Was a top player at Hibs. He has went back the way in terms of progress. He could not lace Charlie Adams boots.

[Carheenlea]

It was a bit of pantomime in a pretty entertaining Old Firm Derby.

After the incident I was really hoping that Diouf would score the next goal and return the goading.

Brown was a great player for us in his time at ER, as was Thompson and Whittaker. Not really that bothered now about the ins and out`s of their departures, prefer to just remember what they were doing on the park during which was the best few seasons I have had the privilege of watching.

Wouldn't go as far as rolling out the red carpet for any of them now though.

[ancient hibee]

In his time at Celtic Brown was barely average under Strachan and Mowbray it's taken Lennon to give him his mojo back.

Incidentally(stifle a yawn everybody)Brown wouldn't have lasted 30 seconds trying to "out hard" Turnbull or MacKay.

[One Day Soon]

We will agree to disagree whether his behaviour , and not just after the goal but also earlier asides to Diouf , was unprofessional , loutish and inflammatory.

He showed fantastic fight and grit for Hibs but also dispayed a petulant and snide side to his game which was unnecessary and served no positive purpose, as he could get involved in running fueds with oppostion players which detracted from his and the teams performance. Im all for players showing fight and grit but it doesnt need to be accompanied by behind the refs back immature wideo antics.

Brown has carried forward that petulant snide side to his Scotland and Celtc career. If he tries to wind up one of our players and get them sent off next time we play Celtc will you still be singing his praises ?

Nothing he does playing against us upgrades or downgrades how good he was when playing for us. He was a great player for us, a real standout.

You know when people strike the poses they do about Scott Brown and his playing style (and most of them are poses simply because he went to Celtc) they are also torching the playing careers of the likes of Billy Bremner and Jim Baxter because these and many other great Scottish players had swagger and provocation in their playing style. Bremner would kick people up and down the park and goad them for 90 minutes, Baxter memorably took the P at Wembley by playing keepie uppie with the ball. Dave Mackay did a lot more than just make tackles and passes. Read the autobiographies of most any football great and you will see that none of them just played football on the park, they all indulged in mind games, wind ups and psychological warfare.

Maybe people think the All Black Haka is unacceptable too?

[ancient hibee]

The players you mention were entitled to a bit of swagger.Brown should learn to play like them first.

[One Day Soon]

The players you mention were entitled to a bit of swagger.Brown should learn to play like them first.

What, you are allowed to kick people once you pass some kind of test?

[ancient hibee]

So you think playing with a bit of swagger equates to going around kicking people?

[One Day Soon]

So you think playing with a bit of swagger equates to going around kicking people?

FFS, this is Billy Bremner we are talking about not Dame Margot Fonteyn.

A more violent, aggressive, unsporting, dirty wee player you could not hope to find. Marvellous he was too.

[blackpoolhibs]

FFS, this is Billy Bremner we are talking about not Dame Margot Fonteyn.

A more violent, aggressive, unsporting, dirty wee player you could not hope to find. Marvellous he was too.

Its amazing how much better these players become over time? He was a thug, albeit a thug who could play, he'd never get away with how he played then in 2011. If Bremner was playing today, he'd be hated by the majority of fans in this country

[One Day Soon]

Its amazing how much better these players become over time? He was a thug, albeit a thug who could play, he'd never get away with how he played then in 2011. If Bremner was playing today, he'd be hated by the majority of fans in this country

Indeed. You rest my case.

[ancient hibee]

We will agree to disagree whether his behaviour , and not just after the goal but also earlier asides to Diouf , was unprofessional , loutish and inflammatory.

He showed fantastic fight and grit for Hibs but also dispayed a petulant and snide side to his game which was unnecessary and served no positive purpose, as he could get involved in running fueds with oppostion players which detracted from his and the teams performance. Im all for players showing fight and grit but it doesnt need to be accompanied by behind the refs back immature wideo antics.

Brown has carried forward that petulant snide side to his Scotland and Celtc career. If he tries to wind up one of our players and get them sent off next time we play Celtc will you still be singing his praises ?

Nothing he does playing against us upgrades or downgrades how good he was when playing for us. He was a great player for us, a real standout.

You know when people strike the poses they do about Scott Brown and his playing style (and most of them are poses simply because he went to Celtc) they are also torching the playing careers of the likes of Billy Bremner and Jim Baxter because these and many other great Scottish players had swagger and provocation in their playing style. Bremner would kick people up and down the park and goad them for 90 minutes, Baxter memorably took the P at Wembley by playing keepie uppie with the ball. Dave Mackay did a lot more than just make tackles and passes. Read the autobiographies of most any football great and you will see that none of them just played football on the park, they all indulged in mind games, wind ups and psychological warfare.

Maybe people think the All Black Haka is unacceptable too?

I don't need to read about them -I saw them all play numerous times-did you?Frankly mentioning Brown as being comparable because he's a wind up merchant is laughable.He's a good player in a poor league.Mackay incidentally was never sent off despite being one of the toughest in an era of tough players.Baxter was of course a Hibs supporter who came from Fife any time he could to watch the Famous Five and learn how to play.Bremner wasn't even the dirtiest player in the Leeds team and gave the greatest exhibition of how to play the sweeper role at Easter Road that I've ever seen and if I recall without fouling anyone.

[CB_NO3]

Indeed. You rest my case.
I cant believe we are talking about Billy Bremner and Scott Brown in the same sentance. Billy Bremner wan numerous league titles and FA cups and played in a couple of European finals. Scott Brown plays for the worst Celtic team in years and is an ok SPL player. Next we will be comparing Brown with Roy Keane.

[ancient hibee]

I cant believe we are talking about Billy Bremner and Scott Brown in the same sentance. Billy Bremner wan numerous league titles and FA cups and played in a couple of European finals. Scott Brown plays for the worst Celtic team in years and is an ok SPL player. Next we will be comparing Brown with Roy Keane.

And not in Keane's favour.

[hfc rd]

Loved the celebration by Scotty Brown. I absolutely despise that Diouf more than any other player in the league. A dirty ******! Really hope he leaves this country sooner rather than later.

[Fantic]

Hearts (by a mile)
Rangers
Celtic
Aberdeen


That's my 4 most hated.

[hibsbollah]

First I would not take the judgment of fans of either of the Ugly Sisters to be worth much. These are the people who think Scottish football owes them a living, that they should be in the English Premiership and who have allowed their bigotry to suck Scottish football dry over decades.

Second, of course they don't think he was worth 4.5 million - they have been used for years to picking off the cream of our players for sweeties. (thank you Rod petrie for beginning to equalise that imbalance)

Third he is an outstanding player and his guts, movement and ability testify to that. Not only would he be the first pick on an Easter Road team sheet just now, but he would probably feature in an all time Hibs first eleven too. The fact that Celtc couldn't play him in the right position or formation for so long does not make him a lesser player.
completely agree.

[Steve-O]

Celebration was funny, but Brown is still a fud like the rest of them.

[easty]

Scott Brown is an ok player. Was a top player at Hibs. He has went back the way in terms of progress. He could not lace Charlie Adams boots.

Bollocks....Scott might not be mensa material but he can tie laces.

He's a better footballer than Charlie Adam as well.

[Speedway]

Scott, are you a legend?

'Dunno'


leg·end   /ˈlɛdʒənd/ Show Spelled
[lej-uhnd] Show IPA

–noun
1. a nonhistorical or unverifiable story handed down by tradition from earlier times and popularly accepted as historical.
2. the body of stories of this kind, especially as they relate to a particular people, group, or clan: the winning of the West in American legend.
3. an inscription, especially on a coat of arms, on a monument, under a picture, or the like.
4. a table on a map, chart, or the like, listing and explaining the symbols used. Compare key1 ( def. 8 ) .
5. Numismatics . inscription ( def. 8 ) .
6. a collection of stories about an admirable person.
7. a person who is the center of such stories: She became a legend in her own lifetime.
8. Archaic . a story of the life of a saint, especially one stressing the miraculous or unrecorded deeds of the saint.
9. Obsolete . a collection of such stories or stories like them.


He could qualify under certain points there.

[JimBHibees]

I cant believe we are talking about Billy Bremner and Scott Brown in the same sentance. Billy Bremner wan numerous league titles and FA cups and played in a couple of European finals. Scott Brown plays for the worst Celtic team in years and is an ok SPL player. Next we will be comparing Brown with Roy Keane.

Personally think this Celtic team is one of the best in recent years and given the age of the players only going to get better.

Bremner was a marvellous player however one of the dirtiest inprobably the dirtiest team ever however the game was much more different then and you had to cut a boys leg off before you got a warning never mind a booking.

[CB_NO3]

Personally think this Celtic team is one of the best in recent years and given the age of the players only going to get better.

Bremner was a marvellous player however one of the dirtiest inprobably the dirtiest team ever however the game was much more different then and you had to cut a boys leg off before you got a warning never mind a booking.

This the Celtic team that got hammered in Europe from teams that the great Celtic should be beating. They are probably the best in what is the worst SPL in over 20, 30 years.

[CB_NO3]

Bollocks....Scott might not be mensa material but he can tie laces.

He's a better footballer than Charlie Adam as well.

Charlie Adam is the most wanted player in England, he is playing in the hardest league in the world and is doing a damn good job in it. He also got his team promoted last season single handedly. Scott Brown plays in the worst SPL in 20, 30 years and is doing ok in it at best. No one is interested in signing Scott Brown.

[JimBHibees]

Charlie Adam is the most wanted player in England, he is playing in the hardest league in the world and is doing a damn good job in it. He also got his team promoted last season single handedly. Scott Brown plays in the worst SPL in 20, 30 years and is doing ok in it at best. No one is interested in signing Scott Brown.

Surely not.

[JimBHibees]

This the Celtic team that got hammered in Europe from teams that the great Celtic should be beating. They are probably the best in what is the worst SPL in over 20, 30 years.

I think their performances in the last few weeks have been exceptional and given the age of the squad only going to get better. I dont think Celtic given their recent record in Europe could see themselves as being sure to beat the vast majoiryt of teams in Europe.

Not sure I agree about it being the worst league in 30 years either.

[number 27]

Charlie Adam is the most wanted player in England, he is playing in the hardest league in the world and is doing a damn good job in it. He also got his team promoted last season single handedly. Scott Brown plays in the worst SPL in 20, 30 years and is doing ok in it at best. No one is interested in signing Scott Brown.

A good argument and nearly 50% of it isn't complete b******S

[CB_NO3]

Surely not.
Yes he was. I never said best player mind. I said most wanted.

[CB_NO3]

A good argument and nearly 50% of it isn't complete b******S
Do you care to elaborate or is that your well though input of the whole argument.

[J-C]

Surely not.


I think when Spurs. Liverpool and Aston Villa try to sign you, you could say he's pretty much wanted down south. :wink:

[number 27]

Do you care to elaborate or is that your well though input of the whole argument.


Your argument contained 7 assertions, I don't suppose anyone would argue that Adam is doing a good job, the rest of what you said was a combination of the debatable and the plain wrong. Is that OK for you?

[JimBHibees]

Yes he was. I never said best player mind. I said most wanted.

Only because he was available.

[CB_NO3]

Your argument contained 7 assertions, I don't suppose anyone would argue that Adam is doing a good job, the rest of what you said was a combination of the debatable and the plain wrong. Is that OK for you?
Thats fine for me. Well what ones would you suggest are wrong?

[JimBHibees]

I think when Spurs. Liverpool and Aston Villa try to sign you, you could say he's pretty much wanted down south. :wink:

I wasnt saying he wasnt wanted just disputing that he was the most wanted

[CB_NO3]

Only because he was available.
Yes your right, he was available and thats what made alot of top teams make bids for him, hence my point he was the most wanted man in January within reason off course. Am sure Ronaldo and Messi were on everyones wish list, but somethings you cant have.

[number 27]

Thats fine for me. Well what ones would you suggest are wrong?

Well, Adam is clearly not the most wanted player in the EPL.
No player and certainly not Charlie Adam gets promoted "single handedly"
I would suggest plenty of teams would be interested in signing Scott Brown if they could.

[CB_NO3]

Well, Adam is clearly not the most wanted player in the EPL.
No player and certainly not Charlie Adam gets promoted "single handedly"
I would suggest plenty of teams would be interested in signing Scott Brown if they could.
He was in January, thats a fact. Ill show you lots of newspaper articles to back up my case. The term "single handedly" gets used all the time in football when a player is so influential to a team e.g. Zidane in 98. Am not saying he done it all himself but he drove the team on, banged in lots of goals and so on. Put it this way, they would never have got promoted if Adam was not in there team. When Scott Brown left Hibs there was a story that Spurs were after him, other than that I have not heard anything about a team being interested in Scott Brown.

[Wotherspiniesta]

Is this thread still going?

11 pages of complete nonsense.

[number 27]

He was in January, thats a fact. Ill show you lots of newspaper articles to back up my case. The term "single handedly" gets used all the time in football when a player is so influential to a team e.g. Zidane in 98. Am not saying he done it all himself but he drove the team on, banged in lots of goals and so on. Put it this way, they would never have got promoted if Adam was not in there team. When Scott Brown left Hibs there was a story that Spurs were after him, other than that I have not heard anything about a team being interested in Scott Brown.


It really isn't a fact you know. Some teams were interested in Adam but if he was top priority for any top team he would be playing for them now. The term "single handedly" is simply wrong. As for Brown,seriously, if his contract was at the same stage as Adam's do you think no one would be interested?
It's also worth pointing out that if the SPL is really as bad as you say is it not
surprising that an SPL club decided Adam wasn't good enough:dunno:

[hibsbollah]

Is this thread still going?

11 pages of complete nonsense.

I like it. Makes a change from the usual hypothetical guff about whether dobbie/griffiths/konte could still do 'a job'.

[easty]

Charlie Adam is the most wanted player in England, he is playing in the hardest league in the world and is doing a damn good job in it. He also got his team promoted last season single handedly. Scott Brown plays in the worst SPL in 20, 30 years and is doing ok in it at best. No one is interested in signing Scott Brown.

I don't remember too many stories (I dont actually remember any confirmed bids at all) about anyone trying to sign Larsson when he was the best player in Scotland for years. Though there were teams in that time fighting over the signatures of Harry Kewell and El Hadji Diouff down in the EPL.......I never thought they were as good as Larsson but obviously they were better. More fool me.

Of course you'll now come back with a reason why thats not the same thing....but it is-(ish)

[blackpoolhibs]

Do you care to elaborate or is that your well though input of the whole argument.

I will, Evatt held that defence together all season, helped by Crainey player of the previous year. Vaughan was superb and did most of the donkey work Adams cant do to give him the platform to spray his passes. Chubs in goal had a superb season, resulting in a Scotland call up. And DJ Campbell, who couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo for ANY other club, suddenly found his form and scored for fun. So to sum up, yes apart from all that it was down to Adams single handedly taking Blackpool all the way to the premiership.

Oh and Holloways tactics and organization.

[ancient hibee]

Well, Adam is clearly not the most wanted player in the EPL.
No player and certainly not Charlie Adam gets promoted "single handedly"
I would suggest plenty of teams would be interested in signing Scott Brown if they could.

Why don't they?Haven't heard of anyone being interested.

[basehibby]

Sticks the ball in the net beautifully with his weaker left foot to equalise for Celtc at Ibrox and then celebrates by standing arms in the air staring Diouf straight in the eyes. No fear, no limits.

Always a joy to watch. How I wish he was still ours.

He USED to be a legend - now he's just a smelly soap dodging hoolie - albeit a very profitable one.

PS - his patter like that displayed vs Dioff WAS one of the things I very much enjoyed about him when he was at ER - but LEGEND??? for merely stirring things up while playing for the smellies??? Have a word :rolleyes:

[Hibs On Tour]

If a Hibs captain had done that, in a cup tie when we were already a man short, knowing fine well he's going to get a booking and there's still 20 minutes to go, I wouldn't have described it as 'class'

Totally and utterly stupid and pointless would be a better description.

To do that in an OF game is the height of frickin' stupidity. :agree: Lucky he didn't get sent off for trying to encite an opponent into smacking him.

[CB_NO3]

I don't remember too many stories (I dont actually remember any confirmed bids at all) about anyone trying to sign Larsson when he was the best player in Scotland for years. Though there were teams in that time fighting over the signatures of Harry Kewell and El Hadji Diouff down in the EPL.......I never thought they were as good as Larsson but obviously they were better. More fool me.

Of course you'll now come back with a reason why thats not the same thing....but it is-(ish)

You have gave me a soar head reading that. Am talking about Scott Brown not been better than Charlie Adam. To back my theory up I said 3 top clubs in England all wanted to sign Adam, true?.... Yes it is. Why? well because he is playing at the top of his game in a top league. Scott Brown aint playing at the top of his game in a poor league. Simples.

Henrik Larsson is not a good example. He was that good that he could pick any club he really wanted to which is why he went to Man Utd and Barcelona. Scott Brown and Charlie Adam are not good enough to pick what team they want to go to, so its upto clubs to bid for them.

[One Day Soon]

He USED to be a legend - now he's just a smelly soap dodging hoolie - albeit a very profitable one.
Boll and ocks. Its been asked already - Is Pat Stanton "a smelly soap dodging hoolie" because he left us for Celtc? Is he hell.

PS - his patter like that displayed vs Dioff WAS one of the things I very much enjoyed about him when he was at ER - but LEGEND??? for merely stirring things up while playing for the smellies??? Have a word :rolleyes:

Why don't you have several words - ie read the whole thread before posting inaccurately based upon wrong assumptions? I did not say he was a legend for stirring things up in the Ugly Sisters derby. If you had read the thread first instead of jumping on the bandwagon - and the wrong bandwagon too mind - you would know this.

[One Day Soon]

Is this thread still going?

11 pages of complete nonsense.

And your point is?

[One Day Soon]

He was in January, thats a fact. Ill show you lots of newspaper articles to back up my case. The term "single handedly" gets used all the time in football when a player is so influential to a team e.g. Zidane in 98. Am not saying he done it all himself but he drove the team on, banged in lots of goals and so on. Put it this way, they would never have got promoted if Adam was not in there team. When Scott Brown left Hibs there was a story that Spurs were after him, other than that I have not heard anything about a team being interested in Scott Brown.

No he wasn't, that's a fact. The most wanted player was Torres as witnessed by the ludicrous amount of money paid for him.

Charlie Adam probably hasn't been signed because few teams could afford the sheer weekly volume of sticky buns you have to presume would feature in his personal terms. Relatively cheap to buy player who has had a good season in a yo-yo club. Meh. And if he wasn't wanted/couldn't stick in a completely mediocre joke of a Rangers side how good can he be? And while I'm at it, once Walter Smith goes at the end of the season they become an airplane with all engines on fire and no parachutes.

[greenlex]

No he wasn't, that's a fact. The most wanted player was Torres as witnessed by the ludicrous amount of money paid for him.

Charlie Adam probably hasn't been signed because few teams could afford the sheer weekly volume of sticky buns you have to presume would feature in his personal terms. Relatively cheap to buy player who has had a good season in a yo-yo club. Meh. And if he wasn't wanted/couldn't stick in a completely mediocre joke of a Rangers side how good can he be? And while I'm at it, once Walter Smith goes at the end of the season they become an airplane with all engines on fire and no parachutes.
Levein will walk out the Scotland job and save the day.:rolleyes:

[jdships]

Levein will walk out the Scotland job and save the day.:rolleyes:

And stranger things have happened !!!!!!!!!!! :agree::greengrin

[Beefster]

Only because he was available.

How was he 'available' in a different way to any other player?

If someone paid the required cash, Adam would have been sold. If someone paid the required cash, Rooney would be sold. I don't really see the difference, other than the cash required to buy them.

It might stick in the craw because he's an ex-Orc but Adam is one of the stars of the Premiership this season and is coveted by numerous big clubs down there.

[silverhibee]

Levein will walk out the Scotland job and save the day.:rolleyes:

I thought Ally McCoist was getting the job once WS left at the end of the season, but yep maybe Potter would be better suited to the huns job with his knowledge of 4-6-0 negative football tactics.

[JimBHibees]

How was he 'available' in a different way to any other player?

If someone paid the required cash, Adam would have been sold. If someone paid the required cash, Rooney would be sold. I don't really see the difference, other than the cash required to buy them.

It might stick in the craw because he's an ex-Orc but Adam is one of the stars of the Premiership this season and is coveted by numerous big clubs down there.

I hear what you are saying however he plays for Blackpool which IMO encouraged other teams to think he may be more available than other players. He also submitted a transfer request which reiterated that. As you say every player has a price and my initial point about Adam was that he was the most wanted player in the EPL which I think wasnt true.

For what its worth personally delighted he is doing so well down south as always want to see Scottish players doing well.

[greenlex]

I thought Ally McCoist was getting the job once WS left at the end of the season, but yep maybe Potter would be better suited to the huns job with his knowledge of 4-6-0 negative football tactics.
Ireckon there will be new owners at Rangers next season and after Celtic scoop up the treble Mcoist will be out the door when Smith goes.

[hibsbollah]

Are we allowed to call ivan sproule a hibs 'legend'? Or does this disrespect other more worthy candidates?

[Wembley67]

Is this thread worth reading or is it the 12 pages of pish as expected?

[Peevemor]

Is this thread worth reading or is it the 12 pages of pish as expected?

:agree:

[Wotherspiniesta]

And your point is?

Some people don't like Brown because he plays for Celtic.

Some people like Brown because he played for Hibs and was a good player for us.

He's a legend for what he done to wind up Diouf, but he's not a legend compared to actual legends.

He's not better than Charlie Adam, but he can tie his laces.

Charlie Adam single handedly got Blackpool promoted, but was helped out by a lot of his teammates.

12 pages summed up in 5 sentences.

[lapsedhibee]

Some people don't like Brown because he plays for Celtic.

Some people like Brown because he played for Hibs and was a good player for us.

He's a legend for what he done to wind up Diouf, but he's not a legend compared to actual legends.

He's not better than Charlie Adam, but he can tie his laces.

Charlie Adam single handedly got Blackpool promoted, but was helped out by a lot of his teammates.

12 pages summed up in 5 sentences.

Why don't you ask the OP to delete the thread, and you just post this post in its stead? That way the forum would run much more efficiently. Similarly, instead of EPL matchday threads, we could just have the one post:

Some people like Manchester United because they have so much money that they inevitably win far more matches than they lose.

Some people don't like Manchester United because they have so much money that it distorts the game.

[number 27]

Some people don't like Brown because he plays for Celtic.

Some people like Brown because he played for Hibs and was a good player for us.

He's a legend for what he done to wind up Diouf, but he's not a legend compared to actual legends.

He's not better than Charlie Adam, but he can tie his laces.

Charlie Adam single handedly got Blackpool promoted, but was helped out by a lot of his teammates.

12 pages summed up in 5 sentences.


Or football fans with differing opinions choose to debate said opinions on a football forum. One attention seeking loudmouth is not interested in those opinions and chooses to broadcast that fact rather than simply ignore the thread.:confused:

[bawheid]

Why don't you ask the OP to delete the thread, and you just post this post in its stead? That way the forum would run much more efficiently. Similarly, instead of EPL matchday threads, we could just have the one post:

Some people like Manchester United because they have so much money that they inevitably win far more matches than they lose.

Some people don't like Manchester United because they have so much money that it distorts the game.

We could also have a Nish sticky at the top of the board.

Nish is pish.

He's not that bad.

Yes he is.

No he's not.

Stop.

[Wotherspiniesta]

Why don't you ask the OP to delete the thread, and you just post this post in its stead? That way the forum would run much more efficiently. Similarly, instead of EPL matchday threads, we could just have the one post:

Some people like Manchester United because they have so much money that they inevitably win far more matches than they lose.

Some people don't like Manchester United because they have so much money that it distorts the game.

:na na:

[Wotherspiniesta]

We could also have a Nish sticky at the top of the board.

Nish is pish.

He's not that bad.

Yes he is.

No he's not.

Stop.

It would save another 12 pager I guess.

:hnet: for people on the go.

Bitesize snippets of what's going on down ER way.:flag::flag:

[basehibby]

Why don't you have several words - ie read the whole thread before posting inaccurately based upon wrong assumptions? I did not say he was a legend for stirring things up in the Ugly Sisters derby. If you had read the thread first instead of jumping on the bandwagon - and the wrong bandwagon too mind - you would know this.

Read the whole of this pile of keech??? Youre having a laugh aint ya? Have better things to do with my life!

Anyway - i wasn't replying to the whole thread - was replying specifically to your OP which, like it or not, came accross as a massive Scotty Brown bum kissing session. You are of course perfectly entitled to big up any football player you like, but don't expect to go unchallenged if said player is now a recipient of the OF's filthy lucre.

[--------]

It would save another 12 pager I guess.

:hnet: for people on the go.

Bitesize snippets of what's going on down ER way.:flag::flag:


No - it would kick off a 12-pager every freakin week.

But this thread is really about whether adulation of an OF player simply because he once played for Hibs before leaving us in very unpleasant circumstances that were entirely generated by himself and his agent and his mate Kevin...












... is or is not appropriate?



I don't think it is.

Others disagree..

I'm right, they're wrong, but they don't see things that way.

Not a lot I can do about that.

So I'm gone. :devil:

[Hibiza]

an erse, good pro would just walk away.

[7Hero]

Is this thread worth reading or is it the 12 pages of pish as expected?

russell you will be aghast as i was when a fellow hibee commented on scott brown being a legend because of something he did in an old firm game.

a shocker of a thread, very sad that folk can care about the old firm...

[One Day Soon]

Are we allowed to call ivan sproule a hibs 'legend'? Or does this disrespect other more worthy candidates?

Absolutely he is.

Except you're not allowed to say so because he went to another club. So that means he is dead to us now/I hate him/of no interest whatsoever etc and you are a dangerously deranged individual for having the temerity to suggest that what we think of him should be determined by what he did when he was with Hibs rather than afterwards.

I'm not quite sure what the unwritten rules of Legend are but it seems you have to retire at the club in order to hold that status. Or something.

[hibsbollah]

Absolutely he is.

Except you're not allowed to say so because he went to another club. So that means he is dead to us now/I hate him/of no interest whatsoever etc and you are a dangerously deranged individual for having the temerity to suggest that what we think of him should be determined by what he did when he was with Hibs rather than afterwards.

I'm not quite sure what the unwritten rules of Legend are but it seems you have to retire at the club in order to hold that status. Or something.


Hmmm.:nerd:

We obviously need an official dot net definition of 'legend'. I think Gordon Hunter was the last player to play through his career at Hibs before getting a testimonial (correct me if im wrong please), so if 'playing ones entire career at ER' was a criterion then no player since the mid 90s would qualify. Does Goggsy, despite being a bit limited in terms of skill, qualify on account of his length on service, general hard-as-nails-ness and the goal that broke the evil spell?

What a dilemma.

[One Day Soon]

Read the whole of this pile of keech??? Youre having a laugh aint ya? Have better things to do with my life!

Anyway - i wasn't replying to the whole thread - was replying specifically to your OP which, like it or not, came accross as a massive Scotty Brown bum kissing session. You are of course perfectly entitled to big up any football player you like, but don't expect to go unchallenged if said player is now a recipient of the OF's filthy lucre.

I see you ignored the Stanton/Riordan part. I know, reading is so tiresome. Still, I put the Stanton bit in the first sentence this time because I know you won't want to have to read all the way to the end of this third sentence.

[One Day Soon]

No - it would kick off a 12-pager every freakin week.

But this thread is really about whether adulation of an OF player simply because he once played for Hibs before leaving us in very unpleasant circumstances that were entirely generated by himself and his agent and his mate Kevin...












... is or is not appropriate?



I don't think it is.

Others disagree..

I'm right, they're wrong, but they don't see things that way.

Not a lot I can do about that.

So I'm gone. :devil:

If only...

Anyway this thread is not "really about whether adulation of an OF player simply because he once played for Hibs....." it is about Scott Brown who played for Hibs. Who he plays for now is completely incidental.

[One Day Soon]

russell you will be aghast as i was when a fellow hibee commented on scott brown being a legend because of something he did in an old firm game.

a shocker of a thread, very sad that folk can care about the old firm...

What are you, 'shocked of Morningside'?

Hibs fan expresses favourable view of former player because incident in OF game reminds Hibs fan of said player's past feats in Hibs strip. Call the thought police.

[One Day Soon]

Hmmm.:nerd:

We obviously need an official dot net definition of 'legend'. I think Gordon Hunter was the last player to play through his career at Hibs before getting a testimonial (correct me if im wrong please), so if 'playing ones entire career at ER' was a criterion then no player since the mid 90s would qualify. Does Goggsy, despite being a bit limited in terms of skill, qualify on account of his length on service, general hard-as-nails-ness and the goal that broke the evil spell?

What a dilemma.

Well Mr Bollah I think part of the problem here may be that a number of unofficial and unauthorised definitions of Legend or Not Legend are in use.

1. Moved to another club - automatic Not Legend (Sproule)
2. Moved to one of the Ugly Sisters - automatic Not Legend (Stanton)
3. Moved to both of the Ugly Sisters - double Not Legend (K Miller)
4. Moved to one of the Ugly Sisters, but cannot be criticised for ****ing obvious reasons - Legend regardless (Stanton)

5. Moved to another club, but cannot be criticised for ****ing obvious reasons - Legend regardless (Cormack)
6. Lifted a cup as captain - somehow Not Legend (Jones)
etc

Or more likely some people let their perfectly reasonable views of the Ugly Sisters cloud their judgment of our former players. Such a pity that our players won't just commit themselves to playing with Hibs until they retire, whether we want them, need to sell them, can afford them or even think they are any good or not. That would simplify everything.

[Liberal Hibby]

an erse, good pro would just walk away.

I think these eight words sum up why Brown is not (and never will be) 'a legend'.

[blackpoolhibs]

I think these eight words sum up why Brown is not (and never will be) 'a legend'.

While i don't think Scott Brown will ever be a hibs legend, Erich Shaedler who i think is, chased players all over the park to put them in the stand. He even if my memory serves me right, didn't mind giving huns a slap in the tunnel. Was he not a good pro?

[hibsbollah]

I think these eight words sum up why Brown is not (and never will be) 'a legend'.

sproule stamped on a prone yam in the semi and got a red. Sounds like having the right stuff for getting the 'legend' badge is darn complicated...

[blackpoolhibs]

sproule stamped on a prone yam in the semi and got a red. Sounds like having the right stuff for getting the 'legend' badge is darn complicated...

:tee hee:

[One Day Soon]

sproule stamped on a prone yam in the semi and got a red. Sounds like having the right stuff for getting the 'legend' badge is darn complicated...

Indeed. Is Albert Kidd a Hibs legend? He never even played for us.

I note that some posters seem to imply that intelligence should be taken into account too. Will that leave us with ANY Hibs Legends?

[lapsedhibee]

I note that some posters seem to imply that intelligence should be taken into account too. Will that leave us with ANY Hibs Legends?

Alan Gordon. Brain at top of CNS, apparently.

[Liberal Hibby]

While i don't think Scott Brown will ever be a hibs legend, Erich Shaedler who i think is, chased players all over the park to put them in the stand. He even if my memory serves me right, didn't mind giving huns a slap in the tunnel. Was he not a good pro?

Isn't there a difference between being hard and being a tool?

[blackpoolhibs]

Isn't there a difference between being hard and being a tool?

I dont know, you tell me?

[Skanko79]

No read the whole thread as i got bored after page 3. Pardon me if its already been mentioned but has anyone else heard the rumours that Broony was pulled out the Scotland team before last nights match due to a death threat and not an injury as reported on the telly?

[blackpoolhibs]

No read the whole thread as i got bored after page 3. Pardon me if its already been mentioned but has anyone else heard the rumours that Broony was pulled out the Scotland team before last nights match due to a death threat and not an injury as reported on the telly?

It would not surprise me, nothing does these days. Although if it was a sniper, he'd have had an easier time shooting him sitting on the bench, than running about as a moving target?:greengrin

[Skanko79]

It would not surprise me, nothing does these days. Although if it was a sniper, he'd have had an easier time shooting him sitting on the bench, than running about as a moving target?:greengrin


Ha! Too true, unless he waited till he scored and stood motionless taunting one of the opposition players haha!! :thumbsup:

[blackpoolhibs]

Ha! Too true, unless he waited till he scored and stood motionless taunting one of the opposition players haha!! :thumbsup:

:agree: legend. :devil:

[One Day Soon]

:agree: legend. :devil:

You are a very naughty boy

[basehibby]

I see you ignored the Stanton/Riordan part. I know, reading is so tiresome. Still, I put the Stanton bit in the first sentence this time because I know you won't want to have to read all the way to the end of this third sentence.

Ach Legend or Bellend?!? I'm past caring :na na: :wink:

[One Day Soon]

Ach Legend or Bellend?!? I'm past caring :na na: :wink:

Thats because its Thursday.