Theresa May asked about possible resignation over attack on Charlie and Camilla?

[Hibbyradge]

She said had not considered offering her resignation over the incident and added: "Of course that's an incredibly regrettable incident that took place."

Yep, it was her fault. :rolleyes:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11978954

[lapsedhibee]

Yep, it was her fault. :rolleyes:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11978954

:agree: She should defo resign.

And so should Camilla. Royals are supposed to be implacable, like the Queen Mom staying in London during the blitz and that. Camilla looks rattled in that pic, as rattled as if someone had poked her with his stick. Poor show, letting the monarchy down. If she doesn't go voluntarily, sack her.

[Beefster]

I would have thought that the major difference between May and the SNP Transport Minister is that she didn't come out in her first interview after the 'attack' saying that all the police/Special Branch had done a superb job, that she had no need to apologise to the pampered gits in the car and that no-one had warned her that the car would be attacked - just before the Met came out and said that she had actually been warned of the danger in plenty of time.

Not that I wanted Stevenson to resign.

[Hibbyradge]

I would have thought that the major difference between May and the SNP Transport Minister is that she didn't come out in her first interview after the 'attack' saying that all the police/Special Branch had done a superb job, that she had no need to apologise to the pampered gits in the car and that no-one had warned her that the car would be attacked - just before the Met came out and said that she had actually been warned of the danger in plenty of time.

Not that I wanted Stevenson to resign.

I understand that, Beefster.

I just wanted to highlight yet another example of the blame culture in this country. The mere fact that they mentioned the possibility of May resigning speaks volumes.

[Beefster]

I understand that, Beefster.

I just wanted to highlight yet another example of the blame culture in this country. The mere fact that they mentioned the possibility of May resigning speaks volumes.

Politicians seem more concerned with scoring political points than doing the right thing these days. The way that Labour/Tories/Lib Dems act(ed) in opposition compared to what they say whilst in government proves that.

Having said that, I think they are only playing to the gallery. A quick scan of the debates on here shows that.

[Pretty Boy]

If there is one thing the British love it's the blame game.

No one is allowed to make a mistake anymore, we have to have answers for everything, we love to know whos fault it was and we love to see them publicly humiliated.

Don't get me wrong if someone makes a monumental cock up there has to be a level of accountability. But the constant public floggings are getting tiresome. The transport minister got some bad advice and tried to cover up his mistake, who has never been guilty of that? Sorry mate pack your bags your out. Theresa May is not someone i particularly care for but i can't see what she has done wrong here. No doubt some throwaway comment she made to the media 4 months ago will be dragged out and she will be the woman the press love to hate for a few days until they get blood.

[Bad Martini]

Who made the ACTUAL decision(s) that led to the royal car being away from the protection squad? Was it the driver of their Rolls? The polis? One polis? AN Other?? Should that person (or people) be held accountable given their job was to protect the car and they didn't, and as it turned out, one or both of them could have been seriously injured or worse?? Who knows. Depends on whether or not you take the line that would COULD have happened is more important and punt the folk who allowed it to happen? Or do you give them a second chance?

Would we give an airline pilot a second chance if he had a close call with a rooftop for no real reason other than bad planning of his route? Do you give him another chance as "these things happen" or punt him in case he screws up again and kills everyone in the process? Same difference....?

In this case of protection for the royals though, I dont give a toss :devil::devil:

MON THE REPUBLIC :devil: :greengrin :thumbsup:

[Part/Time Supporter]

With the blame culture in the UK it is a minor miracle that the SNP got as far into their term without a senior minister resigning. Of course, the coalition lost yon Liberal within a month of the start.

Its the same thing as in our football now:

Dallas sends a dodgy email = sacked
McDonald tells a white lie = hounded into resigning


What each of the people did was wrong / they could have performed better, but there is no sense of proportionality, ie punishment fitting the supposed crime. Then we have the cheek to accuse other countries of having "backward cultures" (ie Muslim attitudes to women, Chinese human rights).

:rolleyes:

[skipster7]

she can always go back to her violin:wink:

[heretoday]

I think the last minister to resign citing "Ministerial Responsibility" was Lord Carrington over the Falklands question.

Arguably he was less to blame in the circumstances than Ms May in the present situation.

But he took the rap.

Will she? Not on your nelly.

[Beefster]

I think the last minister to resign citing "Ministerial Responsibility" was Lord Carrington over the Falklands question.

Arguably he was less to blame in the circumstances than Ms May in the present situation.

But he took the rap.

Will she? Not on your nelly.

Whether Carrington should or should not have resigned, there's a slight difference between not working out that a situation was leading to war and not micromanaging the route that a royal limousine takes.

[Mibbes Aye]

Couldn't see the rationale for May resigning over this and clearly and correctly she isn't going to.

Can see the point earlier about the blame game, but that shouldn't exculpate senior managers from their responsibility. In this case Stephenson has an ultimate operational responsibility. There were failures. And he certainly didn't do himself any favours with his insistence on R4 that people were lucky not to be shot dead by the police. His will be a curious commissionership - his card is already marked as a result of his unwise comments but the current climate suggests that civil disorder will increase and that's got to steer those who influence these things to ensuring the Met chief is 'sound'.

Getting back to the point however, I don't think the millionaire and Home Secretary Theresa May did anything wrong in this case.

The High Court have just found that she broke the law however, with her immigration cap and have ruled the Government's actions unlawful.

If she was thinking about resigning, being Home Secretary and that, maybe she should therefore offer to go?

Didn't Cameron promise 'new politics'? Or was it one of those 'special' promises like the one Nick Clegg made on tuition fees? Or the one the Tories made on NHS funding?

[Beefster]

Couldn't see the rationale for May resigning over this and clearly and correctly she isn't going to.

Can see the point earlier about the blame game, but that shouldn't exculpate senior managers from their responsibility. In this case Stephenson has an ultimate operational responsibility. There were failures. And he certainly didn't do himself any favours with his insistence on R4 that people were lucky not to be shot dead by the police. His will be a curious commissionership - his card is already marked as a result of his unwise comments but the current climate suggests that civil disorder will increase and that's got to steer those who influence these things to ensuring the Met chief is 'sound'.

Getting back to the point however, I don't think the millionaire and Home Secretary Theresa May did anything wrong in this case.

The High Court have just found that she broke the law however, with her immigration cap and have ruled the Government's actions unlawful.

If she was thinking about resigning, being Home Secretary and that, maybe she should therefore offer to go?

Didn't Cameron promise 'new politics'? Or was it one of those 'special' promises like the one Nick Clegg made on tuition fees? Or the one the Tories made on NHS funding?

You can do better than this.

For the record, you might want to check how many millionaires were in the last Labour cabinet and the wealth of your current leader.

[Mibbes Aye]

You can do better than this.

For the record, you might want to check how many millionaires were in the last Labour cabinet and the wealth of your current leader.

I did mean to add smilies.....