Let's not overreact here...

[leithsansiro]

Right, a wee bit perspective.

Hibs have a group of players from whom serial failures have been tolerated. Too many of them are made out to be better than they are, often by those posting here. Guys like Miller, Murray and Riordan are living on past glories and others, like Hanlon and Wotherspoon, are never going to push on unless the culture changes.

Realistically, as much as we all like to laugh at Hearts and giggle at their finances/crap football/internal rumblings/rubbish stadium, was anyone really expecting us to go out and turn them over.

Today has been a travesty, but it's been coming for a while. Perhaps this will be the wake up call that's needed to shake the club up and force us to rebuild properly. Part of me actually hopes we get relegated so that we can focus on youngsters who WANT to play for the team and can consolidate and push on from there.

The worst thing that can happen is that we meekly limp through the rest of the season and finish up 8th or 9th. If that happens, nobody at the club will learn from the experience and we'll be back to square one.

[sahib]

Right, a wee bit perspective.

Hibs have a group of players from whom serial failures have been tolerated. Too many of them are made out to be better than they are, often by those posting here. Guys like Miller, Murray and Riordan are living on past glories and others, like Hanlon and Wotherspoon, are never going to push on unless the culture changes.

Realistically, as much as we all like to laugh at Hearts and giggle at their finances/crap football/internal rumblings/rubbish stadium, was anyone really expecting us to go out and turn them over.

Today has been a travesty, but it's been coming for a while. Perhaps this will be the wake up call that's needed to shake the club up and force us to rebuild properly. Part of me actually hopes we get relegated so that we can focus on youngsters who WANT to play for the team and can consolidate and push on from there.

The worst thing that can happen is that we meekly limp through the rest of the season and finish up 8th or 9th. If that happens, nobody at the club will learn from the experience and we'll be back to square one.

That does not look like the worst thing at the moment.

[matty_f]

Right, a wee bit perspective.

Hibs have a group of players from whom serial failures have been tolerated. Too many of them are made out to be better than they are, often by those posting here. Guys like Miller, Murray and Riordan are living on past glories and others, like Hanlon and Wotherspoon, are never going to push on unless the culture changes.

Realistically, as much as we all like to laugh at Hearts and giggle at their finances/crap football/internal rumblings/rubbish stadium, was anyone really expecting us to go out and turn them over.

Today has been a travesty, but it's been coming for a while. Perhaps this will be the wake up call that's needed to shake the club up and force us to rebuild properly. Part of me actually hopes we get relegated so that we can focus on youngsters who WANT to play for the team and can consolidate and push on from there.

The worst thing that can happen is that we meekly limp through the rest of the season and finish up 8th or 9th. If that happens, nobody at the club will learn from the experience and we'll be back to square one.

Disagree. Finishing 8th or 9th will do me this season. Stay up, clear out and improve.

Every single Hibs player should be sitting in that dressing room right now absolutely bricking it about their future at the club.

[BoltonHibee]

Right, a wee bit perspective.

Hibs have a group of players from whom serial failures have been tolerated. Too many of them are made out to be better than they are, often by those posting here. Guys like Miller, Murray and Riordan are living on past glories and others, like Hanlon and Wotherspoon, are never going to push on unless the culture changes.

Realistically, as much as we all like to laugh at Hearts and giggle at their finances/crap football/internal rumblings/rubbish stadium, was anyone really expecting us to go out and turn them over.

Today has been a travesty, but it's been coming for a while. Perhaps this will be the wake up call that's needed to shake the club up and force us to rebuild properly. Part of me actually hopes we get relegated so that we can focus on youngsters who WANT to play for the team and can consolidate and push on from there.

The worst thing that can happen is that we meekly limp through the rest of the season and finish up 8th or 9th. If that happens, nobody at the club will learn from the experience and we'll be back to square one.

Unfortunately we are not that good.

[The_Todd]

The worst thing that can happen is that we meekly limp through the rest of the season and finish up 8th or 9th. If that happens, nobody at the club will learn from the experience and we'll be back to square one.

Worst?

Have you seen the table? We're joint last and now 12/1 to go down.

The scenario is describe is one of the better potential outcomes for the season.

[hibee_girl]

Right, a wee bit perspective.

Hibs have a group of players from whom serial failures have been tolerated. Too many of them are made out to be better than they are, often by those posting here. Guys like Miller, Murray and Riordan are living on past glories and others, like Hanlon and Wotherspoon, are never going to push on unless the culture changes.

Realistically, as much as we all like to laugh at Hearts and giggle at their finances/crap football/internal rumblings/rubbish stadium, was anyone really expecting us to go out and turn them over.

Today has been a travesty, but it's been coming for a while. Perhaps this will be the wake up call that's needed to shake the club up and force us to rebuild properly. Part of me actually hopes we get relegated so that we can focus on youngsters who WANT to play for the team and can consolidate and push on from there.

The worst thing that can happen is that we meekly limp through the rest of the season and finish up 8th or 9th. If that happens, nobody at the club will learn from the experience and we'll be back to square one.

Exactly where do you see us getting our next point from?

[mcfly]

Worst?

Have you seen the table? We're joint last and now 12/1 to go down.

The scenario is describe is one of the better potential outcomes for the season.



ONLY 12/1!!! - not like bookies to be generous

[The_Todd]

ONLY 12/1!!! - not like bookies to be generous

One bookies now offering 9/1.

Happy days.

[leithsansiro]

One bookies now offering 9/1.

Happy days.

Hmmm, I'm feeling a need to place a bet. Is that wrong?

[SloopJB]

Right, a wee bit perspective.

Hibs have a group of players from whom serial failures have been tolerated. Too many of them are made out to be better than they are, often by those posting here. Guys like Miller, Murray and Riordan are living on past glories and others, like Hanlon and Wotherspoon, are never going to push on unless the culture changes.

Realistically, as much as we all like to laugh at Hearts and giggle at their finances/crap football/internal rumblings/rubbish stadium, was anyone really expecting us to go out and turn them over.

Today has been a travesty, but it's been coming for a while. Perhaps this will be the wake up call that's needed to shake the club up and force us to rebuild properly. Part of me actually hopes we get relegated so that we can focus on youngsters who WANT to play for the team and can consolidate and push on from there.

The worst thing that can happen is that we meekly limp through the rest of the season and finish up 8th or 9th. If that happens, nobody at the club will learn from the experience and we'll be back to square one.

Absolute rubbish.

What made today a "Travesty"? the better team won today. 94 minutes to get a shot on target. Not a travesty but the correct result.
Miller, Riordan and Murray are our better players, there are some with potential and others that are complete dross.
Relegation would be hugely damaging financially and would still leave us needing to rebuild for the SPL if we were to get promoted.
If anything, the reason to avoid over reacting is that only the manager has changed. He still has the same squad of players who have earned their position at the bottom of the table. They are there on merit.

We have to play defensive football as any other relegation threatened club and use the next transfer window to ship some out and get better in.

[SneakersO'Toole]

This is the worst Hibs team I can remember for years.

We have now played every team in the SPL and have not dominated or played better than ONE of them.

We are in serious trouble. Only a fool would question otherwise.

[matty_f]

Absolute rubbish.

What made today a "Travesty"? the better team won today. 94 minutes to get a shot on target. Not a travesty but the correct result.
Miller, Riordan and Murray are our better players, there are some with potential and others that are complete dross.
Relegation would be hugely damaging financially and would still leave us needing to rebuild for the SPL if we were to get promoted.
If anything, the reason to avoid over reacting is that only the manager has changed. He still has the same squad of players who have earned their position at the bottom of the table. They are there on merit.

We have to play defensive football as any other relegation threatened club and use the next transfer window to ship some out and get better in.

Spot on.

[leithsansiro]

Absolute rubbish.

What made today a "Travesty"? the better team won today. 94 minutes to get a shot on target. Not a travesty but the correct result.
Miller, Riordan and Murray are our better players, there are some with potential and others that are complete dross.
Relegation would be hugely damaging financially and would still leave us needing to rebuild for the SPL if we were to get promoted.
If anything, the reason to avoid over reacting is that only the manager has changed. He still has the same squad of players who have earned their position at the bottom of the table. They are there on merit.

We have to play defensive football as any other relegation threatened club and use the next transfer window to ship some out and get better in.

It's a travesty because we were terrible. No denying the better team won. I am strongly against over reacting (sacking CC, etc) because what everybody needs is time. That won't happen languishing in the lower reaches of the SPL. Think the job McLeish had to do - we went down, he rebuilt and we came back much stronger.

[Pretty Boy]

This is the worst Hibs team I can remember for years.

We have now played every team in the SPL and have not dominated or played better than ONE of them.

We are in serious trouble. Only a fool would question otherwise.

:agree:

We are absolute garbage. We have played consistently poorly sice January and had consistently crap results since February.

Anyone who thinks we aren't in real trouble is deluded. Hibs can go down and if we don't improve we will go down. It's really that simple.