Khaki Poppies

[Phil D. Rolls]

What's people's thoughts on the special khaki poppy for soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq? Is it right tha the deaths of one group of soldiers should be singled out for special treatment, or should we remember all the deaths in the same way?

I don't like it, although I can see that it would bring some extra comfort to those affected by the more recent wars.

[Betty Boop]

What's people's thoughts on the special khaki poppy for soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq? Is it right tha the deaths of one group of soldiers should be singled out for special treatment, or should we remember all the deaths in the same way?

I don't like it, although I can see that it would bring some extra comfort to those affected by the more recent wars.

The great poppy debate, batten down the hatches. :greengrin

[Hibs Class]

What's people's thoughts on the special khaki poppy for soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq? Is it right tha the deaths of one group of soldiers should be singled out for special treatment, or should we remember all the deaths in the same way?

I don't like it, although I can see that it would bring some extra comfort to those affected by the more recent wars.

I don't like it either. Poppies for Remembrance Day should be red. If there's a desire to do something different (similar to white poppies a few years ago) then there should be a different symbol chosen rather than a different colour of poppy.

[khib70]

What's people's thoughts on the special khaki poppy for soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq? Is it right tha the deaths of one group of soldiers should be singled out for special treatment, or should we remember all the deaths in the same way?

I don't like it, although I can see that it would bring some extra comfort to those affected by the more recent wars.
I'm going with you on this one, FR. Surely the object of the poppy is to commemorate and remember all servicemen and women who died on active service in all theatres. In that context a special poppy is irrelevant, surely, and slightly offensive, in that it elevates the undoubted sacrifice of people in those theatres above that of others.

And being ex-Royal Navy, I find it a bit exclusive. What about Royal Navy personnel (eg Marines) who died in both of these conflicts, RAF personnel too?

And my post seems to have acquired (unsolicited, believe me) a big video advert for some Discovery Channel documentary about "Battle Machines". Ironic or what? Do the admins know what control we have over these popups?

It's gone now - weird?

[khib70]

And it's reappeared in FR's OP.:confused:

[bighairyfaeleith]

I think the adverts just randomly appear against posts.

[Phil D. Rolls]

It's gone now - weird?


And it's reappeared in FR's OP.:confused:

I've not seen it! I used to be plagued by one for the Cooper's Rest, but haven't had any pop ups for a while.

[Phil D. Rolls]

The great poppy debate, batten down the hatches. :greengrin

It had to be done, it's part of the rich fabric of our community. :greengrin

[steakbake]

The great poppy debate, batten down the hatches. :greengrin

Poppies. Deary me. I see politicians are already wearing them. They get earlier every year, yet poppy fascists don't like to have people complaining about them.

It's one rule for adverts for Christmas paraphernalia and another for a day remembering the fallen...

[Phil D. Rolls]

Poppies. Deary me. I see politicians are already wearing them. They get earlier every year, yet poppy fascists don't like to have people complaining about them.

It's one rule for adverts for Christmas paraphernalia and another for a day remembering the fallen...

Interesting point there. I've noticed that the Xmas adverts have been a lot later this year. I thought it was because the penny had finally dropped that people had less to spend.

I mean how many 3 piece suites can one nation buy? We must have the comfiest backsides in Europe, and with my leisure trousers that I bought at Primark recently, I'm perfectly OK anyway.

Are you saying that there has been some dictat stating an earliest date for these to appear?

[steakbake]

Interesting point there. I've noticed that the Xmas adverts have been a lot later this year. I thought it was because the penny had finally dropped that people had less to spend.

I mean how many 3 piece suites can one nation buy? We must have the comfiest backsides in Europe, and with my leisure trousers that I bought at Primark recently, I'm perfectly OK anyway.

Are you saying that there has been some dictat stating an earliest date for these to appear?

Well, given the way Brussels runs this country these days (despite the efforts of the fallen), it wouldn't surprise me if this is evidence of yet another dictac slapped on the long-suffering people of our once great island by some chinless continental.

I'm so furious I could put my foot through the monitor... and I'd be sending Strasbourg the bill - but they'd probably pay up in bloody Euros....:grr::grr:

[heretoday]

We wear poppies, or not, largely to recognise the sacrifice of ordinary folk who were conscripted.

The soldiers out in the desert are professionals. It's their job. They joined up in the knowledge that "You may get killed or maimed in the performance of your duties".

Besides we shouldn't be involved in the current hostilities. It's a terrible waste of lives in order to satisfy the whims of politicians.

[erin-go-bragh87]

We wear poppies, or not, largely to recognise the sacrifice of ordinary folk who were conscripted.

The soldiers out in the desert are professionals. It's their job. They joined up in the knowledge that "You may get killed or maimed in the performance of your duties".

Besides we shouldn't be involved in the current hostilities. It's a terrible waste of lives in order to satisfy the whims of politicians.

I see what your saying but thats not realy the point. The poppy is to remember the fallen. Whether we should be there or not.

[heretoday]

I feel that somehow to wear a special poppy in respect of Afghan campaign fallen confers respectability of a sort on the government policy.

Instead we should be stringing up Blair, Bush and Brown. With their khaki poppies on.

[lapsedhibee]

The great poppy debate, batten down the hatches. :greengrin
This would be only a minor skirmish, a debate about khaki poppies. The great debate will be about the acceptability or otherwise of maroon poppies.:sofa:

[Phil D. Rolls]

Well, given the way Brussels runs this country these days (despite the efforts of the fallen), it wouldn't surprise me if this is evidence of yet another dictac slapped on the long-suffering people of our once great island by some chinless continental.

I'm so furious I could put my foot through the monitor... and I'd be sending Strasbourg the bill - but they'd probably pay up in bloody Euros....:grr::grr:

Back off Brussels!!! You were quick enough to disappear in the 1914-18 show. :agree:


This would be only a minor skirmish, a debate about khaki poppies. The great debate will be about the acceptability or otherwise of maroon poppies.:sofa:

It'll all be over by Christmas. :greengrin

[The Harp Awakes]

My great Uncle died in the trenches at 17 years old; James O'Donnell from the Canongate. Not sure how well it is recognised, but I've heard that there were more fatalities in the 1st World War from the Canongate than any other street in the UK. I think it is right to remember such sad loss of life.

Having said that, I don't buy a poppy because I feel that the imagery has been exploited in recent years to somehow justify unwarranted wars, e.g Iraq and the Falklands.

[GhostofBolivar]

We wear poppies, or not, largely to recognise the sacrifice of ordinary folk who were conscripted.

The soldiers out in the desert are professionals. It's their job. They joined up in the knowledge that "You may get killed or maimed in the performance of your duties".

Besides we shouldn't be involved in the current hostilities. It's a terrible waste of lives in order to satisfy the whims of politicians.

If you say so.

I thought we wore poppies in memory of all those who sacrificed their lives and bodies in service of their country.

To differentiate between the conscripted and the volunteer is to imply that those who died at Passchendaele or in Normandy are somehow more worthy than those who died on the Somme or in Afghanistan. Something which is patently wrong.

For whatever reason, those who have died in the service of this country - whether conscript or volunteer; professional or amateur - are deserving of the utmost respect. If only our politicians and government gave their sacrifice the weight it deserves.

[Beefster]

We wear poppies, or not, largely to recognise the sacrifice of ordinary folk who were conscripted.

The soldiers out in the desert are professionals. It's their job. They joined up in the knowledge that "You may get killed or maimed in the performance of your duties".

Besides we shouldn't be involved in the current hostilities. It's a terrible waste of lives in order to satisfy the whims of politicians.

How do you tell if someone who died in the First or Second World War was conscripted or not?

I find it a wee bit sad that footballers are so easily hero-worshipped for kicking a ball but some folk can't give everyone who fights for this country a wee bit of recognition or differentiate between those that fight in conflicts and those that send them to fight.

[Hibernia Na Eir]

What's people's thoughts on the special khaki poppy for soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq? Is it right tha the deaths of one group of soldiers should be singled out for special treatment, or should we remember all the deaths in the same way?

I don't like it, although I can see that it would bring some extra comfort to those affected by the more recent wars.

why dont you go on Keekback and ask? There's a poppy love-in there again (as if the world doesnt already know!)

[Phil D. Rolls]

why dont you go on Keekback and ask? There's a poppy love-in there again (as if the world doesnt already know!)

Slightly different topic. What's their feelings on the Khaki ones anyway?