Ryder Cup predictions!

[Dibben]

Right, come on then, lets have your predictions here for sundays final result!

Mine is:

Europe 16 - 12 USA

Top European scorer... Westwood 3 points!!!

[H18sry]

15 1/2--12 1/2 Europe, McDowell 4 1/2 points

[Houchy]

Tiger Woods turning up at Katie Jenkins hoose 19:30

[Higgy115]

Some info for anyone having a wee punt....... Usually good info.http://www.hibs.net/image001.gif@01CB5FC4.8BB1DFB0

THE RYDER CUP (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/winner/) - FIVE REASONS FOR EXPECTING A EUROPEAN VICTORY

EUROPE TO WIN THE 2010 RYDER CUP (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/winner/), FIVE POINTS WIN [STRONG BET] @ 7/10 PP; 4/6 SKY, WH, BO; 8/13 TO, VC, BF, SPTGBET, LA, EX; only 4/7 BS, SJ, CO, B365

1. Europe have the players with the better Ryder Cup records
As you can see from the table above there are only 5 players with a Ryder Cup scoring record of 50% or better and 4 of them: Ian Poulter, Luke Donald, Graeme McDowell and Lee Westwood are European.

2. Europe will have the better team spirit
This really is the X factor - Europe had it in their wins in 2002, 2004 and 2006 but under the egocentric Nick Faldo it was missing in 2008 when USA , superbly captained by Paul Azinger, regained the trophy.
The wild card pick given to Tiger Woods won't help American team spirit - is it really a coincidence that three times this century US have played with him and lost, but without him at Kentucky two years ago the American spirit was top class and they won?
Monty has shrewdly added the enthusiasm of Sergio Garcia to the backroom team, they have the massive enthusiasm of Ian Poulter who expects to be so drained that he's already planned a 4 week break after this week, and two of the Euro rookies are brothers who get on really well.

3. Europe have the better players
I think there are serious doubts about several US players, notably Mickelson and Woods as neither are in form or have good RC records, and Woods' probable partner Steve Stricker played poorly last week when he beat only 4 of the 30 in the field, there is a doubt about Overton's 'nerve' and Watson's waywardness.
Europe, on the other hand, have players who have won recently: Donald, Fisher, Jimenez, Eduardo Molinari; as well as the winners of the last two majors held in America in McDowell and Kaymer. Add in two-time winner Hanson, WGC Match play winner Ian Poulter, Luke Donald 2nd in the Tour Championship with 7 US Ryder Cup players behind him and the fact that even Padraig Harrington shot a brilliant 64 in R4 of the Vivendi Cup on Sunday.
OK, there is a doubt re the fitness of Lee Westwood but he is reported to be fine now.

4. Europe seem to have the more natural pairings
I expect the opening morning 4-balls to be:
* McIlroy + McDowell
* Donald + Harrington
* Fisher + Poulter
* Kaymer + Westwood
In the afternoon foursomes when each team has only one ball accuracy is king, and in Eduardo & Francesco Molinari, and Peter Hanson & MA Jimenez, Europe have two 'natural' pairs of straight hitters.
The Molinari brothers, let's remember, won [we backed them at 14/1] the World Cup at Mission Hills in China in late November last year, and McDowell & McIlroy were 2nd a shot back, with Poulter & Fisher 4th three behind the winning Italians. That's rock solid proven form for three of the European pairs!

5. Home advantage
Five of the last 6 Ryder Cups have been won by the home side - the only home team to lose came in 2004 when American captain had the 'amazing' idea of partnering Tiger Woods with Phil Mickelson - it backfired big style and USA had no spirit and were thrashed 18.5-9.5!
There are two parts to home advantage:
[a] You know the course more than the visitors and you can also 'doctor' it to suit the strengths of your side as Paul Azinger did so well in 2008 when he widened the fairways in key areas to suit his massive hitters.
There is always a great boost to the hosts from the crowd, from home comforts and familiarity with the surroundings and especially the weather.

IN SUM: I rate EUROPE a strong bet to regain the Ryder Cup, and at 7/10 they are a five point stake.

CORRECT SCORE - MARGIN OF VICTORY (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/correct-score/)
[B]EUROPE to win by 15.5 to 12.5 (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/correct-score/) is 12/1 LA, and to win by 16-12 (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/correct-score/) is 14/1 (TWO POINTS WIN) both at LA to give a combined odds bet of a tad under 6/1.
For the reasons stated above I expect a bold showing and a win from the European side. A close win by 1 point 14.5 to 13.5, or by 2 points 15 to 13 are clearly possible, but at current odds EUROPE to win by a 3 or 4 point margin at combined odds of 6/1 looks a sound bet in this market.

TOP POINTS SCORER MARKETS
These are by their nature 'dodgy' as we don't know [a] how many times players will play (clearly the more they play the better their chances to score points so it's best to pick players who are likely to play in all 5 match sessions) and we don't know who are our selections will be playing in the fourballs, the foursomes or the singles.

http://www.hibs.net/image002.jpg@01CB5FC4.8BB1DFB0[B]EUROPEAN TOP POINTS SCORER: MARTIN KAYMER (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/top-european/), ONE POINT WIN @ 13/2 SKY, BS; 6/1 CO, WH, LA, BF, BO, TO, B365; only 5/1 EX,PP
He may be a Ryder Cup rookie bit this guy has nerves of steel.
He has won 7 tournaments in the last three years including his first major, the USPGA, when he was the 60/1 winner for us.
Indeed after that win in America he took a break and on his return he won the KLM Open to prove what terrific form he is in.
He played at Celtic Manor in the Wales Open finishing 12th.
IN SUM: Will surely play in all 5 matches, has proven nerve and the all round game to play really well this week.

http://www.hibs.net/image003.jpg@01CB5FC4.8BB1DFB0EUROPEAN TOP POINTS SCORER: GRAEME McDOWELL (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/top-european/), ONE POINT EACH WAY @ 8/1 PP, SKY, CO, EX; 7/1 GENERAL; only 6/1 LA
Graeme says he's now fully refreshed after the after effects of his US Open win.
He's most definitely course proven as he won the Wales Open here this year when he was 1st GIR at 83.3% and 4th Drvg Accuracy at 79.5%.
On his Ryder Cup debut in USA two years ago he scored 2.5pts from 4 games including a singles win over Stewart Cink [2 and 1].
My well play with Rory McIlroy especially in the fourballs.
IN SUM: He will surely play in all 5 session, is course proven and Ryder Cup experienced.

http://www.hibs.net/image004.jpg@01CB5FC4.8BB1DFB0AMERICAN TOP POINTS SCORER: HUNTER MAHAN (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/top-american/), ONE POINT EACH WAY @ 11/1 SJ; 10/1 B365, SKY, BO, BS, PP, LA, CO, WH; 9/1 VC, BF, TO; only 8/1 EX
On his Ryder Cup debut in 2008 he was unbeaten when he won 1.5 pts in both the fourballs and the foursomes and halved his singles with Paul Casey so he did really well as a rookie, and he played in all 5 sessions.
He won the WGC at Bridgestone at 50/1 for us last month and that was his second win of the year.
Hunter is a straight hitter who is ranked 2nd in US for total driving which is a stat that merges distance with accuracy
Looks a good partner for Mickelson in the fourballs - they were paired together and halved their match in 2008 - as Hunter can play straight and let Phil 'go birdie hunting'.
IN SUM: Will surely play in all 5 sessions just as he did in 2008 and looks a solid EW bet at 10/1 or that juicy 11/1.

[Houchy]

Some info for anyone having a wee punt....... Usually good info.http://www.hibs.net/image001.gif@01CB5FC4.8BB1DFB0

THE RYDER CUP (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/winner/) - FIVE REASONS FOR EXPECTING A EUROPEAN VICTORY

EUROPE TO WIN THE 2010 RYDER CUP (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/winner/), FIVE POINTS WIN [STRONG BET] @ 7/10 PP; 4/6 SKY, WH, BO; 8/13 TO, VC, BF, SPTGBET, LA, EX; only 4/7 BS, SJ, CO, B365

1. Europe have the players with the better Ryder Cup records
As you can see from the table above there are only 5 players with a Ryder Cup scoring record of 50% or better and 4 of them: Ian Poulter, Luke Donald, Graeme McDowell and Lee Westwood are European.

2. Europe will have the better team spirit
This really is the X factor - Europe had it in their wins in 2002, 2004 and 2006 but under the egocentric Nick Faldo it was missing in 2008 when USA , superbly captained by Paul Azinger, regained the trophy.
The wild card pick given to Tiger Woods won't help American team spirit - is it really a coincidence that three times this century US have played with him and lost, but without him at Kentucky two years ago the American spirit was top class and they won?
Monty has shrewdly added the enthusiasm of Sergio Garcia to the backroom team, they have the massive enthusiasm of Ian Poulter who expects to be so drained that he's already planned a 4 week break after this week, and two of the Euro rookies are brothers who get on really well.

3. Europe have the better players
I think there are serious doubts about several US players, notably Mickelson and Woods as neither are in form or have good RC records, and Woods' probable partner Steve Stricker played poorly last week when he beat only 4 of the 30 in the field, there is a doubt about Overton's 'nerve' and Watson's waywardness.
Europe, on the other hand, have players who have won recently: Donald, Fisher, Jimenez, Eduardo Molinari; as well as the winners of the last two majors held in America in McDowell and Kaymer. Add in two-time winner Hanson, WGC Match play winner Ian Poulter, Luke Donald 2nd in the Tour Championship with 7 US Ryder Cup players behind him and the fact that even Padraig Harrington shot a brilliant 64 in R4 of the Vivendi Cup on Sunday.
OK, there is a doubt re the fitness of Lee Westwood but he is reported to be fine now.

4. Europe seem to have the more natural pairings
I expect the opening morning 4-balls to be:
* McIlroy + McDowell
* Donald + Harrington
* Fisher + Poulter
* Kaymer + Westwood
In the afternoon foursomes when each team has only one ball accuracy is king, and in Eduardo & Francesco Molinari, and Peter Hanson & MA Jimenez, Europe have two 'natural' pairs of straight hitters.
The Molinari brothers, let's remember, won [we backed them at 14/1] the World Cup at Mission Hills in China in late November last year, and McDowell & McIlroy were 2nd a shot back, with Poulter & Fisher 4th three behind the winning Italians. That's rock solid proven form for three of the European pairs!

5. Home advantage
Five of the last 6 Ryder Cups have been won by the home side - the only home team to lose came in 2004 when American captain had the 'amazing' idea of partnering Tiger Woods with Phil Mickelson - it backfired big style and USA had no spirit and were thrashed 18.5-9.5!
There are two parts to home advantage:
[a] You know the course more than the visitors and you can also 'doctor' it to suit the strengths of your side as Paul Azinger did so well in 2008 when he widened the fairways in key areas to suit his massive hitters.
There is always a great boost to the hosts from the crowd, from home comforts and familiarity with the surroundings and especially the weather.

IN SUM: I rate EUROPE a strong bet to regain the Ryder Cup, and at 7/10 they are a five point stake.

CORRECT SCORE - MARGIN OF VICTORY (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/correct-score/)
[B]EUROPE to win by 15.5 to 12.5 (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/correct-score/) is 12/1 LA, and to win by 16-12 (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/correct-score/) is 14/1 (TWO POINTS WIN) both at LA to give a combined odds bet of a tad under 6/1.
For the reasons stated above I expect a bold showing and a win from the European side. A close win by 1 point 14.5 to 13.5, or by 2 points 15 to 13 are clearly possible, but at current odds EUROPE to win by a 3 or 4 point margin at combined odds of 6/1 looks a sound bet in this market.

TOP POINTS SCORER MARKETS
These are by their nature 'dodgy' as we don't know [a] how many times players will play (clearly the more they play the better their chances to score points so it's best to pick players who are likely to play in all 5 match sessions) and we don't know who are our selections will be playing in the fourballs, the foursomes or the singles.

http://www.hibs.net/image002.jpg@01CB5FC4.8BB1DFB0[B]EUROPEAN TOP POINTS SCORER: MARTIN KAYMER (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/top-european/), ONE POINT WIN @ 13/2 SKY, BS; 6/1 CO, WH, LA, BF, BO, TO, B365; only 5/1 EX,PP
He may be a Ryder Cup rookie bit this guy has nerves of steel.
He has won 7 tournaments in the last three years including his first major, the USPGA, when he was the 60/1 winner for us.
Indeed after that win in America he took a break and on his return he won the KLM Open to prove what terrific form he is in.
He played at Celtic Manor in the Wales Open finishing 12th.
IN SUM: Will surely play in all 5 matches, has proven nerve and the all round game to play really well this week.

http://www.hibs.net/image003.jpg@01CB5FC4.8BB1DFB0EUROPEAN TOP POINTS SCORER: GRAEME McDOWELL (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/top-european/), ONE POINT EACH WAY @ 8/1 PP, SKY, CO, EX; 7/1 GENERAL; only 6/1 LA
Graeme says he's now fully refreshed after the after effects of his US Open win.
He's most definitely course proven as he won the Wales Open here this year when he was 1st GIR at 83.3% and 4th Drvg Accuracy at 79.5%.
On his Ryder Cup debut in USA two years ago he scored 2.5pts from 4 games including a singles win over Stewart Cink [2 and 1].
My well play with Rory McIlroy especially in the fourballs.
IN SUM: He will surely play in all 5 session, is course proven and Ryder Cup experienced.

http://www.hibs.net/image004.jpg@01CB5FC4.8BB1DFB0AMERICAN TOP POINTS SCORER: HUNTER MAHAN (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/top-american/), ONE POINT EACH WAY @ 11/1 SJ; 10/1 B365, SKY, BO, BS, PP, LA, CO, WH; 9/1 VC, BF, TO; only 8/1 EX
On his Ryder Cup debut in 2008 he was unbeaten when he won 1.5 pts in both the fourballs and the foursomes and halved his singles with Paul Casey so he did really well as a rookie, and he played in all 5 sessions.
He won the WGC at Bridgestone at 50/1 for us last month and that was his second win of the year.
Hunter is a straight hitter who is ranked 2nd in US for total driving which is a stat that merges distance with accuracy
Looks a good partner for Mickelson in the fourballs - they were paired together and halved their match in 2008 - as Hunter can play straight and let Phil 'go birdie hunting'.
IN SUM: Will surely play in all 5 sessions just as he did in 2008 and looks a solid EW bet at 10/1 or that juicy 11/1.

Some good info there which suggests to me a 3pt bet on Europe to win tomorrow and a 2pt bet on the outright. If it goes tits up, still have a 2pt bet on the overall but if it goes right, you can lump your winnings from tomorrow onto the outright too (ok at smaller odds) or simply take your winnings.

Think that's what I'll be having some of.:agree:

Taken Paddy to be the top European (If Montys high praise so far is anything to go by:agree:)

Can't wait for it to start now:thumbsup: (Only 13 hours to go)

[Houchy]

Some info for anyone having a wee punt....... Usually good info.http://www.hibs.net/image001.gif@01CB5FC4.8BB1DFB0

THE RYDER CUP (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/winner/) - FIVE REASONS FOR EXPECTING A EUROPEAN VICTORY

EUROPE TO WIN THE 2010 RYDER CUP (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/winner/), FIVE POINTS WIN [STRONG BET] @ 7/10 PP; 4/6 SKY, WH, BO; 8/13 TO, VC, BF, SPTGBET, LA, EX; only 4/7 BS, SJ, CO, B365

1. Europe have the players with the better Ryder Cup records
As you can see from the table above there are only 5 players with a Ryder Cup scoring record of 50% or better and 4 of them: Ian Poulter, Luke Donald, Graeme McDowell and Lee Westwood are European.

2. Europe will have the better team spirit
This really is the X factor - Europe had it in their wins in 2002, 2004 and 2006 but under the egocentric Nick Faldo it was missing in 2008 when USA , superbly captained by Paul Azinger, regained the trophy.
The wild card pick given to Tiger Woods won't help American team spirit - is it really a coincidence that three times this century US have played with him and lost, but without him at Kentucky two years ago the American spirit was top class and they won?
Monty has shrewdly added the enthusiasm of Sergio Garcia to the backroom team, they have the massive enthusiasm of Ian Poulter who expects to be so drained that he's already planned a 4 week break after this week, and two of the Euro rookies are brothers who get on really well.

3. Europe have the better players
I think there are serious doubts about several US players, notably Mickelson and Woods as neither are in form or have good RC records, and Woods' probable partner Steve Stricker played poorly last week when he beat only 4 of the 30 in the field, there is a doubt about Overton's 'nerve' and Watson's waywardness.
Europe, on the other hand, have players who have won recently: Donald, Fisher, Jimenez, Eduardo Molinari; as well as the winners of the last two majors held in America in McDowell and Kaymer. Add in two-time winner Hanson, WGC Match play winner Ian Poulter, Luke Donald 2nd in the Tour Championship with 7 US Ryder Cup players behind him and the fact that even Padraig Harrington shot a brilliant 64 in R4 of the Vivendi Cup on Sunday.
OK, there is a doubt re the fitness of Lee Westwood but he is reported to be fine now.

4. Europe seem to have the more natural pairings
I expect the opening morning 4-balls to be:
* McIlroy + McDowell
* Donald + Harrington
* Fisher + Poulter
* Kaymer + Westwood
In the afternoon foursomes when each team has only one ball accuracy is king, and in Eduardo & Francesco Molinari, and Peter Hanson & MA Jimenez, Europe have two 'natural' pairs of straight hitters.
The Molinari brothers, let's remember, won [we backed them at 14/1] the World Cup at Mission Hills in China in late November last year, and McDowell & McIlroy were 2nd a shot back, with Poulter & Fisher 4th three behind the winning Italians. That's rock solid proven form for three of the European pairs!

5. Home advantage
Five of the last 6 Ryder Cups have been won by the home side - the only home team to lose came in 2004 when American captain had the 'amazing' idea of partnering Tiger Woods with Phil Mickelson - it backfired big style and USA had no spirit and were thrashed 18.5-9.5!
There are two parts to home advantage:
[a] You know the course more than the visitors and you can also 'doctor' it to suit the strengths of your side as Paul Azinger did so well in 2008 when he widened the fairways in key areas to suit his massive hitters.
There is always a great boost to the hosts from the crowd, from home comforts and familiarity with the surroundings and especially the weather.

IN SUM: I rate EUROPE a strong bet to regain the Ryder Cup, and at 7/10 they are a five point stake.

CORRECT SCORE - MARGIN OF VICTORY (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/correct-score/)
[B]EUROPE to win by 15.5 to 12.5 (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/correct-score/) is 12/1 LA, and to win by 16-12 (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/correct-score/) is 14/1 (TWO POINTS WIN) both at LA to give a combined odds bet of a tad under 6/1.
For the reasons stated above I expect a bold showing and a win from the European side. A close win by 1 point 14.5 to 13.5, or by 2 points 15 to 13 are clearly possible, but at current odds EUROPE to win by a 3 or 4 point margin at combined odds of 6/1 looks a sound bet in this market.

TOP POINTS SCORER MARKETS
These are by their nature 'dodgy' as we don't know [a] how many times players will play (clearly the more they play the better their chances to score points so it's best to pick players who are likely to play in all 5 match sessions) and we don't know who are our selections will be playing in the fourballs, the foursomes or the singles.

http://www.hibs.net/image002.jpg@01CB5FC4.8BB1DFB0[B]EUROPEAN TOP POINTS SCORER: MARTIN KAYMER (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/top-european/), ONE POINT WIN @ 13/2 SKY, BS; 6/1 CO, WH, LA, BF, BO, TO, B365; only 5/1 EX,PP
He may be a Ryder Cup rookie bit this guy has nerves of steel.
He has won 7 tournaments in the last three years including his first major, the USPGA, when he was the 60/1 winner for us.
Indeed after that win in America he took a break and on his return he won the KLM Open to prove what terrific form he is in.
He played at Celtic Manor in the Wales Open finishing 12th.
IN SUM: Will surely play in all 5 matches, has proven nerve and the all round game to play really well this week.

http://www.hibs.net/image003.jpg@01CB5FC4.8BB1DFB0EUROPEAN TOP POINTS SCORER: GRAEME McDOWELL (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/top-european/), ONE POINT EACH WAY @ 8/1 PP, SKY, CO, EX; 7/1 GENERAL; only 6/1 LA
Graeme says he's now fully refreshed after the after effects of his US Open win.
He's most definitely course proven as he won the Wales Open here this year when he was 1st GIR at 83.3% and 4th Drvg Accuracy at 79.5%.
On his Ryder Cup debut in USA two years ago he scored 2.5pts from 4 games including a singles win over Stewart Cink [2 and 1].
My well play with Rory McIlroy especially in the fourballs.
IN SUM: He will surely play in all 5 session, is course proven and Ryder Cup experienced.

http://www.hibs.net/image004.jpg@01CB5FC4.8BB1DFB0AMERICAN TOP POINTS SCORER: HUNTER MAHAN (http://odds.goldcall.com/golf/ryder-cup/top-american/), ONE POINT EACH WAY @ 11/1 SJ; 10/1 B365, SKY, BO, BS, PP, LA, CO, WH; 9/1 VC, BF, TO; only 8/1 EX
On his Ryder Cup debut in 2008 he was unbeaten when he won 1.5 pts in both the fourballs and the foursomes and halved his singles with Paul Casey so he did really well as a rookie, and he played in all 5 sessions.
He won the WGC at Bridgestone at 50/1 for us last month and that was his second win of the year.
Hunter is a straight hitter who is ranked 2nd in US for total driving which is a stat that merges distance with accuracy
Looks a good partner for Mickelson in the fourballs - they were paired together and halved their match in 2008 - as Hunter can play straight and let Phil 'go birdie hunting'.
IN SUM: Will surely play in all 5 sessions just as he did in 2008 and looks a solid EW bet at 10/1 or that juicy 11/1.

What site is that from? Tip and Win?

[Higgy115]

What site is that from? Tip and Win?

Nah, my mate pays for them and e-mails me them.

The boy has an amazing record on the golf, especially the American stuff. He backs all his tips at level stakes per point and is well up over the years.

[HibeeMG]

That opening ceremony got me properly fired up for it. I'm doing my usual bi-annual thing of sitting in front of the telly for 3 days straight. Food will be delivered and toilet breaks taken during the adverts!

The way the morning pairings have panned out makes me think we'll be 3 1/2 - 1/2 points ahead going into the afternoon.

I can't see anything other than a European win frankly. I think it's a pretty weak USA team. The big stars aren't exactly setting the heather on fire and their rookies aren't a patch on ours.

[Pretty Boy]

Playing in a Lothianburn v Swanston fourball competition arranged to mark the Ryder Cup weekend, a round over each course so should be good fun whilst competitive. Asked for an early tee time so i can catch as much of the golf as possible.

As for the Ryder Cup i fancy Europe, just. I think it will be a bit tighter than some are predicting. The USA team is full of talented golfers and are certainly no mugs. In saying that the European team is also hugely talented and i think a huge advantage is they have a captain in Monty and several players such as Jimenez, Westwood and so on who 'get' the Ryder Cup, something that may be lacking in the American team.

[greenlex]

USA 15.5 EUROPE 12.5.
Harrington to return 0 points. Poulter to bag at least 3
Woods will get 2

[sg7nil]

Europe 14 1/2 - USA 13 1/2. (or possibly the other way round)

Why?

Because as soon as one side hits the magic 14.5 points and wins the cup, players can shake hands on the course and just walk in.. has happened in the past (although I believe it's not supposed to nowadays). Even if the guys do play on, all kinds of putts will be conceeded and the competitive edge will have gone from the competition.

[Sylar]

Under way!

Match 2 just teeing off.

The weather may well bring this to a grinding halt though - water starting to pond in the bunkers and around the green...

[Ritchie]

Took the day off to watch.

Westwood And McDowell just put their pairs one up.

Weather is terrible. The balls aren't even bouncing from the drives.

Water ponding everywhere.

Perfect weather for the British players :wink:

[Houchy]

USA 15.5 EUROPE 12.5.
Harrington to return 0 points. Poulter to bag at least 3
Woods will get 2

You're getting the full Yogi.... Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo:greengrin

[Sylar]

Is there such a thing as a lateral grass hazard?! More water on the course than grass just now!

Currently up in 3/3 matches! :thumbsup:

[Houchy]

Anyone else hear the stupid woman in the crowd... "Good try Lee". Does she not realise that Westwood was out first.:confused: Even my wife picked up on it:agree:

Women on a golf course... whatever next.:bitchy:

Better to say nothing a let people think you're stupid than to say something and confirm it to everyone:agree::greengrin

[Ritchie]

Play suspended

[Pretty Boy]

I must be the only person delighted about this rain delay. Came into work at 7 this morning with the aim of finishing at 2.30/3.00 and maybe catching the end of the afternoons play. Now thanks to the wonderful Welsh weather it looks like i could see a whole lot more than i bargained for. 'Mon the rain:thumbsup:.

[Golden Bear]

The schedule for the match is so tight that I think we're already looking at a Monday finish.

And let's face it - October in Wales was always going to be problematic both in terms of daylight and the weather.

Announcement about the re-commencement of play to be made at MIDDAY.

[Sylar]

Pushed back to 1pm as it's still pishing down in Wales.

Very strong possibility of no golf today if this keeps up!

[Pretty Boy]

Good old Sir Nicks 'bring your waterproofs to Wales' jibe at the closing ceremony in Valhalla looks pretty accurate at the moment.

[Sylar]

Good old Sir Nicks 'bring your waterproofs to Wales' jibe at the closing ceremony in Valhalla looks pretty accurate at the moment.

He should have told team USA that the waterproofs should ACTUALLY BE waterproof :greengrin

[Golden Bear]

He should have told team USA that the waterproofs should ACTUALLY BE waterproof :greengrin

I believe the fabric was AlGoretex.

:offski:

[Houchy]

16:00 now so no possibility of play until 16:45:bitchy:

They should just call it now. There's surely no possibility/point in kicking off at that time:bitchy:

[H18sry]

16:00 now so no possibility of play until 16:45:bitchy:

They should just call it now. There's surely no possibility/point in kicking off at that time:bitchy:

I wonder if Chris [godsahibby] is having a swimmingly good time :devil:

[Golden Bear]

Play to resume at 5pm. :thumbsup:

Better than nothing I suppose but I can't see them getting any of the fourball matches finished today.

[Houchy]

I wonder if Chris [godsahibby] is having a swimmingly good time :devil:

I was thinking that earlier.:greengrin

He only decided to go for the first day as well.

[BroxburnHibee]

First blood to Europe :thumbsup:

We'll do well to get out the first session all square TBH.

[Houchy]

Tiger Woods turning up at Katie Jenkins hoose 19:30

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1316589/RYDER-CUP-2010-Tiger-Woods-caught-ogling-Katherine-Jenkins.html

Looks like i might have not been too far off the mark.

Ach, he's only human and if that was in my face I'd be slaverin' like a butchers dog as well:agree::greengrin.

Baby got Back:agree:

[Godsahibby]

I was thinking that earlier.:greengrin

He only decided to go for the first day as well.

They do say that as a golf fan you should experience being at a Ryder Cup at least once in your life......I better get my tickets for Gleneagles in 4 years time!

The up point of it was I got to properly put my new golf shoes and waterproofs through a field test, and they kept me dry!

[Golden Bear]

Play to re-commence at 1:30.

The Singles will be played tomorrow commencing at 9:05am.

Let's hope all the matches can be brought to a conclusion because if it's decided purely based on "matches complete" then it's not satisfactory for either side.

[Houchy]

Is anyone else getting fed up with all this "filling" going on with Sky. I know there's only so much they can do but all this "we don't know what the scores are going to be but we'll just "ASSUME its going to be 8-8 and that this will be the way the singles will come out". WTF is the point!!! It's a case of if your auntie had baws etc...

I'd rather watch the players warm up to be honest rather than listen to this sh***!!!:grr:

[Hibbie_Cameron]

What a fantastic day!!

Every single player was fantastic, all 12.

Monty looks like he was about to burst with pride in his interview there

[IWasThere2016]

Great day and great scores. I fancied the US this year too!

[H18sry]

Match 1: Luke Donald vs Jeff Overton
Match 2: Ross Fisher vs Hunter Mahan
Match 3: Peter Hanson vs Steve Stricker
Match 4: Lee Westwood vs Tiger Woods
Match 5: Miguel Angel Jimenez vs Bubba Watson
Match 6: Padraig Harrington vs Jim Furyk
Match 7: Graeme McDowell vs Phil Mickelson
Match 8: Francesco Molinari vs Stewart Cink
Match 9: Ian Poulter vs Matt Kuchar
Match 10: Edoardo Molinari vs Zach Johnson
Match 11: Rory McIlroy vs Rickie Fowler
Match 12: Martin Kaymer vs Dustin Johnson

Some cracking ties there :thumbsup:

[Speedy]

Match 1: Luke Donald vs Jeff Overton
Match 2: Ross Fisher vs Hunter Mahan
Match 3: Peter Hanson vs Steve Stricker
Match 4: Lee Westwood vs Tiger Woods
Match 5: Miguel Angel Jimenez vs Bubba Watson
Match 6: Padraig Harrington vs Jim Furyk
Match 7: Graeme McDowell vs Phil Mickelson
Match 8: Francesco Molinari vs Stewart Cink
Match 9: Ian Poulter vs Matt Kuchar
Match 10: Edoardo Molinari vs Zach Johnson
Match 11: Rory McIlroy vs Rickie Fowler
Match 12: Martin Kaymer vs Dustin Johnson

Some cracking ties there :thumbsup:

:confused:

From BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/live_scores/default.stm)
Session 4: 12 singles starting at 0905 BST Monday

L Westwood v S Stricker

R McIlroy v S Cink

L Donald v J Furyk

M Kaymer v D Johnson

I Poulter v M Kuchar

R Fisher v J Overton

MA Jimenez v B Watson

F Molinari v T Woods

E Molinari v R Fowler

P Hanson v P Mickelson

P Harrington v Z Johnson

G McDowell v H Mahan

[H18sry]

Match 1: Luke Donald vs Jeff Overton
Match 2: Ross Fisher vs Hunter Mahan
Match 3: Peter Hanson vs Steve Stricker
Match 4: Lee Westwood vs Tiger Woods
Match 5: Miguel Angel Jimenez vs Bubba Watson
Match 6: Padraig Harrington vs Jim Furyk
Match 7: Graeme McDowell vs Phil Mickelson
Match 8: Francesco Molinari vs Stewart Cink
Match 9: Ian Poulter vs Matt Kuchar
Match 10: Edoardo Molinari vs Zach Johnson
Match 11: Rory McIlroy vs Rickie Fowler
Match 12: Martin Kaymer vs Dustin Johnson

Some cracking ties there :thumbsup:


:confused:

From BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/live_scores/default.stm)
Session 4: 12 singles starting at 0905 BST Monday

L Westwood v S Stricker

R McIlroy v S Cink

L Donald v J Furyk

M Kaymer v D Johnson

I Poulter v M Kuchar

R Fisher v J Overton

MA Jimenez v B Watson

F Molinari v T Woods

E Molinari v R Fowler

P Hanson v P Mickelson

P Harrington v Z Johnson

G McDowell v H Mahan

I took it off the Bunkered site and they have now changed it :doh:

[Houchy]

They do say that as a golf fan you should experience being at a Ryder Cup at least once in your life......I better get my tickets for Gleneagles in 4 years time!

The up point of it was I got to properly put my new golf shoes and waterproofs through a field test, and they kept me dry!

Despite my previous comments about going to the Ryder Cup not really interesting me due to the fact you see more on telly, I can see that it would be awesome to go to soakup the atmosphere. I might save up and go to the next one. Yes America (at least the weather would be better as Gleneagles won't be much better than Wales.)

I'm assuming you still had a good time though.

[Godsahibby]

I got excited seeing the Bunkered singles, the looked cracking, still tomorrows actual singles should be good, i'm just thankful I took tomorrow off as well so I get to see it.

And Houchy, I'm actully thinking of going over to Chicago as well, one of my mates who i was away with, luckily his missus folks live near there so we've got the accomodation sorted, would just need flights. Aye mate, still had a great time, Cardiff on Frdiay night was pretty messy!

[Houchy]

I got excited seeing the Bunkered singles, the looked cracking, still tomorrows actual singles should be good, i'm just thankful I took tomorrow off as well so I get to see it.

And Houchy, I'm actully thinking of going over to Chicago as well, one of my mates who i was away with, luckily his missus folks live near there so we've got the accomodation sorted, would just need flights. Aye mate, still had a great time, Cardiff on Frdiay night was pretty messy!

Sounds good mate. Keep me posted on whether you think 2012 is a go/no go:agree:

Totally looking forward to the singles tomorrow. Thought I was going to miss the start by dropping the kids off at school but given it doesn't actually start until 9:05 means i'll be back. Still have to pick the youngest one up from nursery at 11:10 so it could be a case of tying a steak round her neck and finding a stray dog to play with her for the afternoon:greengrin.

[H18sry]

Ian Poulter "I WILL DELIVER A POINT TODAY" nice to hear confident players, but will he deliver lets wait and see. :wink:

[Sylar]

Another delay looking likely here with this mist.

"You've got Bic Mac, we've got Little Mac" - with Rory McIlroy on the tee :thumbsup:

[H18sry]

Westie all square thru 1

[Sylar]

McIlroy 1 up through 1.

[Sylar]

Luke Donald is in sensational form today! 3 up on Furyk right now.

Ross Fisher is also 2 up, Poulter is 1 up, Westwood is 1 up and Molinari is 1 up on Woods. Kaymer is 1 down to Johnson and Jiminez is A/S.

[Sylar]

Not looking AS good right now - losing a few leads all over the places, with holes and matches going the way of Team USA.

Up in 5, down in 5, level in 2.

[Sylar]

Stricker beats Westwood 2 up.
Johnson hammers Kaymer 6&4

Europe 9.5 - 8.5 USA

[H18sry]

Squeaky bum time

[H18sry]

Ian Poulter "I WILL DELIVER A POINT TODAY" nice to hear confident players, but will he deliver lets wait and see. :wink:

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Sylar]

11-9 right now:

Need Fisher, Molinari, McDowell, Donald and Jimenez to keep it going :paranoid:

[Sylar]

12-9

Relying on Molinari, Jimenez and McDowell right now, as Woods, Mickelson and Zach Johnson are all comfortably up.

Ross Fisher needs to get his finger out of his arse, as he's gone from leading comfortably to being 2 down.

[H18sry]

13-10 up down in 3 of the 5 games still out there, if it stays the same we win.:thumbsup:

[Sylar]

Regardless of the outcome, I STILL have no idea why Harrington was picked ahead of Casey. Absolute liability.

[H18sry]

:worried::worried:13-11 :bitchy:

[Speedy]

Down to Mr McDowell now

[Sylar]

Down to Mr McDowell now

Who underclubs and comes up 40 yards short of the green :grr:

Thankfully, Mahan done similar!

[Sylar]

Molinari and McDowell are conspiring to toss this away here...

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

They look like chucking this!

[Sylar]

****** off Molinari.

[Pretty Boy]

It's squeaky bum time now.

Great shot by McDowell after Mahan plays up short.

[Jim44]

Molinari and McDowell are conspiring to toss this away here...

Fowler has to get some credit.

[Pretty Boy]

Regardless of the outcome, I STILL have no idea why Harrington was picked ahead of Casey. Absolute liability.

:agree:

One of the few that Monty got badly wrong.

The Harrington of a couple of years ago is very different from the Harrington today. Must be the only golfer in the world who wins 3 majors in just over a year and then decides to rip apart the blueprint for his swing and start again.

[Pretty Boy]

Fowler has to get some credit.

:agree:

I don't think Molinari threw it away. He finished with 4 straight pars and was just unlucky that Fowler played some terrific golf and hit the birdie trail.

[Sylar]

GMac!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Sylar]

Fowler has to get some credit.

Absolutely - he played some sensational golf on the last 4 holes - had nothing to lose and hit some great shots.

[Pretty Boy]

Great putt under so much pressure.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Great putt!

[Pretty Boy]

2 nervy tee shots there.

Mahan was so so heavy.

[Sylar]

2 nervy tee shots there.

Mahan was so so heavy.

And he duffed his second! McDowell short with his putt, but Mahan is still at the edge of the green!

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Get in!

[Pretty Boy]

That'll do nicely.

[Golden Bear]

A magnificent victory and I managed to divide my attentions between the TV and the big news on Hibs net!

My only slight regret is that there were no Scottish players in the team and sadly I can't see that changing in the forseeable future.

[H18sry]

A magnificent victory and I managed to divide my attentions between the TV and the big news on Hibs net!

My only slight regret is that there were no Scottish players in the team and sadly I can't see that changing in the forseeable future.

A Scotsman captained the team to victory :thumbsup:

[Golden Bear]

A Scotsman captained the team to victory :thumbsup:

And he's probably still the only Scotsman that has a chance to be selected as a player for the next Ryder Cup!

[Pretty Boy]

And he's probably still the only Scotsman that has a chance to be selected as a player for the next Ryder Cup!

If Stephen Gallacher can continue his form from the back end of this season into next year and build on it he could be there or thereabouts.

[H18sry]

What a great closing speech from Monty :thumbsup:

Will he be allowed to Stay on as captain or does he only have 1 term in office so to speak? :confused:

[Sylar]

What a great closing speech from Monty :thumbsup:

Will he be allowed to Stay on as captain or does he only have 1 term in office so to speak? :confused:

It'll change for Medinah and I fully expect Jose Maria Olazabel to be in charge then :agree:

[H18sry]

It'll change for Medinah and I fully expect Jose Maria Olazabel to be in charge then :agree:

Is that a definite Scott :confused: Do winning captains always stand down now, I know in the past that Captains have had a couple of Ryder cups.

[Pretty Boy]

What a great closing speech from Monty :thumbsup:

Will he be allowed to Stay on as captain or does he only have 1 term in office so to speak? :confused:

Theoretically he can stay on but in recent times it has become tradition to stand down after each event. Bernard Gallacher and Tony Jacklin both captained 3 Ryder Cup teams.

[Sylar]

Is that a definite Scott :confused: Do winning captains always stand down now, I know in the past that Captains have had a couple of Ryder cups.

It just seems to be the done thing. Olazabal's name has been thrown around for a while, but I guess it will depend on his health, as he has rheumatism, hence his absence from the Tour the last 2 years.

The Telegraph ran a story on Friday suggesting Monty may well retain the captaincy this time around, so who knows - won't be clear for at least a couple of months, when talks about 2012 will start:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/golf/rydercup/8036881/Ryder-Cup-2010-Colin-Montgomerie-could-retain-captaincy-for-2012-event-says-Thomas-Bjorn.html

[LALthehibeeGAL]

as an added bonus I get some dosh back on Stricker had £ e/w on him being top US scorer my son had £1 e/w on Luke Donald so think we both get something - money is money!!

Lal:wink:

[Sylar]

Despite being utterly delighted at the result, I seriously feel for Hunter Mahan - he broke down and was clearly upset during their press conference.

Amazing how much pressure the Ryder Cup puts on the most professional of players.

[IWasThere2016]

Great result! :thumbsup:

I knew it'd be tight.

Agree that Harrington was a poor choice. He needs to stop tinkering. He could do with a break then a comeback with no coaching and minimal practice IMHO.

[lyonhibs]

Absolutely brilliant - what an event The Ryder Cup is. Got hee-haw by way of work done and just watched the highlights.

Fantastic golf, and hats off to the Yanks. Good to see Tiger back to his best, but the best team won (just)

[Houchy]

Is that a definite Scott :confused: Do winning captains always stand down now, I know in the past that Captains have had a couple of Ryder cups.

Monty said that he was passing the trophy onto J.M.O. to take over to Medinah. It's obviously not been decided/discussed yet but you'd think he'd be in a position to know who the favourite for the job is.:agree:

[LALthehibeeGAL]

Despite being utterly delighted at the result, I seriously feel for Hunter Mahan - he broke down and was clearly upset during their press conference.

Amazing how much pressure the Ryder Cup puts on the most professional of players.

I was cringing when he duffed the shot as you don't want that it would have been better if GMac had played an exceptional shot not him duffing his shot - I really felt for him.

Lal:wink:

[IWasThere2016]

That's the beauty of matchplay - you don't need to bt the course just the other duffer :greengrin

[Higgy115]

I posted before the Ryder Cup the tips given, i think a small profit would have been made on that, i really should have included the other tournament that was played at the same time as well !!!!!!!

Haas won and Trahan was 3rd.......

I did not back them either.....


http://www.hibs.net/image005.gif@01CB63BC.4DE759C0
VIKING CLASSIC - starts Thursday (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/viking-classic/winner)
Tournament: With the megabucks of the FedEx Cup now shared out we're into the Fall Series, when simply securing a card for next year is the biggest motivation for many. This event was first staged in 1986 but has been played under a variety of titles. Annandale, Mississippi, has been the venue since 1994.
Course: A fairly straightforward Jack Nicklaus design of around 7,200 yards with forgiving fairways and large, undulating greens. The longest of the 4 par 5s is 580 yards, so the long hitters can reach all of them in 2.
Qualities needed: GIR is more important than accuracy or distance. Although it isn't a course that takes much learning several players have a consistent bank of course form.
Field: Inevitably there are few big names in the field. Only 6 of the 127 have won on the tour in 2010.
Weather: Frequently an issue here, as the tournament was cancelled due to flooding last year and has been weather-shortened on 4 other occasions. However this time it should be warm and fair.
Bookies: PP and, as usual, CO, SPTBET and TO are still to go up. Even though it's Ryder Cup week there aren't many out-of-line prices. O'Hair is 16/1 fav.
Staking: 10 points on this low-key event. All 4 players have 'previous' on the course and/or in the Fall Series.

http://www.hibs.net/image006.jpg@01CB63BC.4DE759C0[NO 1 PICK] BILL HAAS (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/viking-classic/winner) (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/viking-classic/winner)TWO POINTS EACH WAY @ 28/1 BF, WH; 25/1 GENERALLY; only 20/1 LA
T3rd 2007 and T4th 2008 in just 2 starts here, for a str avg of 68.625. He made more than 20 birdies on each start, so he clearly loves the greens.
Has made 5 of his last 6 cuts, including a top 25 in the Deutsche Bank.
Top 30 GIR, top 40 total driving and top 50 birdie average, so he has all the tools to do well.
IN SUM: Struggled to seal the deal on his 2 previous visits. He arrives as a proven winner this time though - he won the 2010 Bob Hope - and that can carry him over the line this time.

http://www.hibs.net/image007.jpg@01CB63BC.4DE759C0[NO 2 PICK] CHAD CAMPBELL (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/viking-classic/winner) ONE POINT EACH WAY @ 25/1 GENERALLY; only 20/1 LA
This event provided him with his latest tour win (2007), but he's also been 2nd (2001) and 4th (2002) in just 3 starts. His str avg for his 11 rounds here is 68.09!
Apart from his 2007 win he's also posted 3rd 2008 and T2nd 2009 in Fall Series events, so he's usually in good form around this time of year.
Can be a really good iron player at his best and has twice been in the top 10 for total putts here, so we know he's comfortable on the greens.
His current form is OK. T5th in the Travelers, since when he's made the cut in all 6 completed starts.
IN SUM: He's never finished outside the top 4 in 3 starts here and he was only 16/1 for last year's abandoned event despite being in pretty similar form at the time so this price is fair.

http://www.hibs.net/image008.jpg@01CB63BC.4DE759C0DJ TRAHAN (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/viking-classic/winner) ONE POINT EACH WAY @ 40/1 SKY; 33/1 BO, LA, VC; 28/1 BS, SJ, only 25/1 BF, WH
Pillar-to-post winner here in 2006 after R1 65 and on his other 2 visits finished T12th 2005 (3 eagles; R4 65) and T49th 2007 (T3rd after R1 66).
Has made his last 6 cuts, including top 10s in the Turning Stone Resort Championship and the Deutsche Bank. Has 6 top 10 finishes in all in 2010.
4th GIR, 6th ball striking and 14th par 5 performance, so well capable of posting low scores again on this layout.
IN SUM: His long game is ideal so he just needs to find some form on the greens to reward EW support.

[H18sry]

Feel free to keep posting tips
:thumbsup:



I posted before the Ryder Cup the tips given, i think a small profit would have been made on that, i really should have included the other tournament that was played at the same time as well !!!!!!!

Haas won and Trahan was 3rd.......

I did not back them either.....


http://www.hibs.net/image005.gif@01CB63BC.4DE759C0
VIKING CLASSIC - starts Thursday (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/viking-classic/winner)
Tournament: With the megabucks of the FedEx Cup now shared out we're into the Fall Series, when simply securing a card for next year is the biggest motivation for many. This event was first staged in 1986 but has been played under a variety of titles. Annandale, Mississippi, has been the venue since 1994.
Course: A fairly straightforward Jack Nicklaus design of around 7,200 yards with forgiving fairways and large, undulating greens. The longest of the 4 par 5s is 580 yards, so the long hitters can reach all of them in 2.
Qualities needed: GIR is more important than accuracy or distance. Although it isn't a course that takes much learning several players have a consistent bank of course form.
Field: Inevitably there are few big names in the field. Only 6 of the 127 have won on the tour in 2010.
Weather: Frequently an issue here, as the tournament was cancelled due to flooding last year and has been weather-shortened on 4 other occasions. However this time it should be warm and fair.
Bookies: PP and, as usual, CO, SPTBET and TO are still to go up. Even though it's Ryder Cup week there aren't many out-of-line prices. O'Hair is 16/1 fav.
Staking: 10 points on this low-key event. All 4 players have 'previous' on the course and/or in the Fall Series.

http://www.hibs.net/image006.jpg@01CB63BC.4DE759C0[NO 1 PICK] BILL HAAS (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/viking-classic/winner) (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/viking-classic/winner)TWO POINTS EACH WAY @ 28/1 BF, WH; 25/1 GENERALLY; only 20/1 LA
T3rd 2007 and T4th 2008 in just 2 starts here, for a str avg of 68.625. He made more than 20 birdies on each start, so he clearly loves the greens.
Has made 5 of his last 6 cuts, including a top 25 in the Deutsche Bank.
Top 30 GIR, top 40 total driving and top 50 birdie average, so he has all the tools to do well.
IN SUM: Struggled to seal the deal on his 2 previous visits. He arrives as a proven winner this time though - he won the 2010 Bob Hope - and that can carry him over the line this time.

http://www.hibs.net/image007.jpg@01CB63BC.4DE759C0[NO 2 PICK] CHAD CAMPBELL (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/viking-classic/winner) ONE POINT EACH WAY @ 25/1 GENERALLY; only 20/1 LA
This event provided him with his latest tour win (2007), but he's also been 2nd (2001) and 4th (2002) in just 3 starts. His str avg for his 11 rounds here is 68.09!
Apart from his 2007 win he's also posted 3rd 2008 and T2nd 2009 in Fall Series events, so he's usually in good form around this time of year.
Can be a really good iron player at his best and has twice been in the top 10 for total putts here, so we know he's comfortable on the greens.
His current form is OK. T5th in the Travelers, since when he's made the cut in all 6 completed starts.
IN SUM: He's never finished outside the top 4 in 3 starts here and he was only 16/1 for last year's abandoned event despite being in pretty similar form at the time so this price is fair.

http://www.hibs.net/image008.jpg@01CB63BC.4DE759C0DJ TRAHAN (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/viking-classic/winner) ONE POINT EACH WAY @ 40/1 SKY; 33/1 BO, LA, VC; 28/1 BS, SJ, only 25/1 BF, WH
Pillar-to-post winner here in 2006 after R1 65 and on his other 2 visits finished T12th 2005 (3 eagles; R4 65) and T49th 2007 (T3rd after R1 66).
Has made his last 6 cuts, including top 10s in the Turning Stone Resort Championship and the Deutsche Bank. Has 6 top 10 finishes in all in 2010.
4th GIR, 6th ball striking and 14th par 5 performance, so well capable of posting low scores again on this layout.
IN SUM: His long game is ideal so he just needs to find some form on the greens to reward EW support.

[Higgy115]

Don't shoot the messenger...... PGA tips to follow.


THE DUNHILL LINKS CHAMPIONSHIP <http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/alfred-dunh= (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/alfred-dunh=)
ill-links-championship/winner> : starts on Thursday=20
Tournament: This is the tenth staging of this complex tournament played ove=
r three courses and is the only pro am regularly played on the European Tou=
r. Teams of one pro and one amateur play each course in rotation over the f=
irst three days. A cut is then made after which the top 60 pros and the top=
20 teams progress to play the final round at St Andrews.

Qualities needed: An ability to play links golf and handle windy and wet co=
nditions as well as being comfortable in a pro-am format. Freshness will be=
important as players coming to this event direct from the Ryder Cup may be=
jaded.
Field: This mega rich event has, as usual, attracted a strong field with mo=
st of the winning Ryder Cup team playing.
Punter Wealth Warning: With the weather and the wind a factor there is a la=
rge element of luck involved in playing the courses in the better weather.
Bookies: Only BS, SKY, BO, TO, LA, B365 and WH had priced up by 9.30am.
Staking: 4 bets for an 11 point stake at odds of 20/1, 22/1, 70/1 and 50/1.
[NO 1 PICK] RETIEF GOOSEN <http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/alfred-dunhill-= (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/alfred-dunhill-=)
links-championship/winner> , TWO POINTS EACH WAY @ 20/1 BO, SKY, LA, WH; on=
ly 18/1 BS, B365
He is in fine form - in his last two American starts he was 7th in the BMW =
and 3rd in the Tour Championship and earlier he was 3rd in the WGC at Bridg=
estone. Indeed, despite being injured for two months from mid April he has =
had a really consistent year with 9 top 7 finishes.
He is a good links player - he was 6th in the British Open at St Andrews th=
is year where two of the four rounds this week will be played, and in 2009 =
he was 5th in the British Open.
Unlike the Ryder Cup guys he will be fresh and focussed.
IN SUM: He looks a rock solid EW bet.
[NO 2 PICK] ROSS FISHER <http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/alfred-dunhill-li= (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/alfred-dunhill-li=)
nks-championship/winner> , ONE AND A HALF POINTS EACH WAY @ 22/1 TO; 20/1 B=
O, LA, WH, BS, B365; only 18/1 SKY
Ross is the one member of the Ryder Cup team who was probably controlled an=
d sober in last night's celebrations. Indeed his on course geeing up of the=
crowd during the Ryder Cup looked contrived and controlled, without the na=
tural exuberance of others such as Poulter or McIroy.
He was 2nd, after a best of the day 65 in R4 here two years ago and his ult=
ra long hitting is a big bonus in this tournament.=20
He won the Irish Open this year - that was his 4th win in the last 4 years.
He has a very good end of season record - he won the World Match play on No=
v 1st last year and had two top 3 finishes in Oct 2008.
This year his driving accuracy and putts per GIR stats are his best ever.
IN SUM: He could well be a leading contender this week.
BRETT RUMFORD <http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/alfred-dunhill-links-champi= (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/alfred-dunhill-links-champi=)
onship/winner> , ONE POINT EACH WAY @ 70/1 BS, 66/1 LA, WH, SKY, B365; 60/1=

Brett has enjoyed his best ever year because he's now settled in a new home
in this country rather than flying to and from his native Australia.
He has posted 4 top 4 finishes in 2010 with his last 5 form figs 9-MC-2-13-
26 and that 2nd came when the Tour was last in Scotland when he was Runner
Up at Gleneagles in the Johnnie Walker.
He is a good wind player and he has been impressive when in contention this
year.
IN SUM: With many of the top players jaded after the Ryder Cup Brett could
well cause a 'shock' this week and looks a sound EW wager.
STEPHEN GALLACHER <http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/alfred-dunhill-links-ch= (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/alfred-dunhill-links-ch=)
ampionship/winner> , ONE POINT EACH WAY @ 50/1 LA, WH, SKY, BS, B365; 45/1
This year he has been fit and healthy and as a result he's had his best eve
r year shown by his lowest ever stroke average.
He had form figs of 4-6-4 in May and he was 23rd at St Andrews in the Briti
sh Open [just 5 shots off the top 5], and 18th in the final major, the USPG
A.=20
Played well at Gleneagles in the Johnnie Walker - he was T3rd after R3 - al
though he had an ordinary R4 so he finished 14th=20
He knows these courses really well and this is the event that gave him his
sole win in 2004.
IN SUM: Worth EW support as he's fresh, in fine form and playing courses he
understands.

[Higgy115]

McGLADREY CLASSIC <http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-classic/wi= (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-classic/wi=)
nner> - starts on Thursday =20
Tournament: A brand new event on the USPGA tour held at the luxury Sea Isla=
nd resort in Georgia. It's a hub for tour pros. Around a dozen players eith=
er live nearby (Davis Love, Jonathan Byrd and Zach Johnson will be sleeping=
in their own beds this week) or work with instructors at its tuition centr=
e.
Course: Described by the venue as a genuine links course, it's routed throu=
gh marshland and dunes and looks more like Hilton Head 70 or so miles up th=
e coast than a British links. It was originally opened in 1929 and was upda=
ted by Tom Fazio in 1999 and now has many of his trademark, 'upturned-sauce=
r' undulating greens. It's a par 70 of a little over 7,000 yards.
Qualities needed: Hard to say first time up. It doesn't appear as though th=
ere will be a premium on driving accuracy, so scrambling, from wasteground =
and around the greens, and putting on the tricky surfaces could be pivotal.=
=20
Field: Just 4 of the Tour Championship field, including 2 Ryder Cuppers - K=
uchar and Zach Johnson.
Weather: Warm, dry and with nothing stronger than light winds.=20
Bookies: At 1.30pm only PP, BF, B365, LA + SJ had priced up.
Staking: 4 bets for an 11 point stake at odds of 33/1, 28/1, 40/1 & 30/1.
[NO 1 PICK] JONATHAN BYRD <http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-c= (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-c=)
lassic/winner> , TWO POINTS EACH WAY @ 33/1 LA; 28/1 SJ; 25/1 BF, B365, PP
One of the players who lives nearby, few in the field will know more about =
this course.
Arrives in eyecatching form. His last 5 starts include T21st Greenbrier, T1=
0th Turning Stone and T5th Viking Classic last week.
A very solid iron player (25th GIR; 4th last week) and a top 40 scrambler. =
His putting has been inconsistent this season, but it's only 3 years since =
he was 2nd P/GIR and knowing these greens should help his form with the fla=
tstick.
IN SUM: Course knowledge could give the 'locals' a significant advantage th=
is week and JB looks primed to take advantage.
[NO 2 PICK] DAVID TOMS <http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-clas= (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-clas=)
sic/winner> , ONE AND A HALF POINTS EACH WAY @ 28/1 SJ; 25/1 PP, B365, BF; =
only 20/1 LA.
David is putting in a strong finish to a poor season. In 24 starts he's mad=
e 18 cuts yet only 1 top 10.
Things turned around with 2nd in the Wyndham Championship in late August, a=
nd he arrives here after consecutive top 15s in the BMW and last week in th=
e Viking Classic.
He was 1st proximity to the hole, T3rd birdies and 8th P/GIR at Annandale l=
ast week.
IN SUM: Scheduled to be his last event of 2010 and will be looking to go ou=
t with a win.
BRIAN GAY <http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-classic/winner (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-classic/winner)> ,=
ONE POINT EACH WAY @ 40/1 PP, B365, BF, LA; only 35/1 SJ.
If the book on this course turns out to be correct, not many in this field =
have a game that's potentially better suited to its demands.
Brian sits 1st scrambling and 4th P/GIR. His lack of length means he's idea=
lly suited to par 70s and he arrives here with 3 top 30s in his last 4 star=
ts.
A Florida resident, so the Bermuda greens will suit, and has 3 top 16s in h=
is last 5 starts at Hilton Head -- including a win in 2008 -- to demonstrat=
e his aptitude for an American-style links course.
IN SUM: A winner in both 2008 and 2009 (twice), he can make up for a poor 2=
010 by going close this week.
BO VAN PELT <http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-classic/winner (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-classic/winner)>=
, ONE POINT EACH WAY @ 30/1 SJ; 28/1 BF; 25/1 PP, B365, LA
If Sea Island is indeed a similar test to Hilton Head then BVP will relish =
it: his form figures there over the last 4 years are T10th/T49th/T13th/T3rd=
.
Seemed to be in contention just about every week over the summer, posting 5=
top 5s in 11 starts and culminating in T3rd in the WGC Bridgestone Invitat=
ional.
Hasn't been quite so hot since, possibly feeling the pressure of his quest =
for a Ryder Cup wildcard. 3 top 30s in 5 starts suggests he hasn't given up=
on the season though and he's still 14th A-R and just outside the top 30 f=
or scrambling.
IN SUM: One of the best ball strikers in the field, should go well here.

[greenlex]

I found this mildly ammusing. :agree:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlObU_LSkPs

You have to be pretty pissed to pronounce Champagne Bar as Champagne Bra. :thumbsup:

[Higgy115]

McGLADREY CLASSIC <http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-classic/wi= (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-classic/wi=)
nner> - starts on Thursday =20
Tournament: A brand new event on the USPGA tour held at the luxury Sea Isla=
nd resort in Georgia. It's a hub for tour pros. Around a dozen players eith=
er live nearby (Davis Love, Jonathan Byrd and Zach Johnson will be sleeping=
in their own beds this week) or work with instructors at its tuition centr=
e.
Course: Described by the venue as a genuine links course, it's routed throu=
gh marshland and dunes and looks more like Hilton Head 70 or so miles up th=
e coast than a British links. It was originally opened in 1929 and was upda=
ted by Tom Fazio in 1999 and now has many of his trademark, 'upturned-sauce=
r' undulating greens. It's a par 70 of a little over 7,000 yards.
Qualities needed: Hard to say first time up. It doesn't appear as though th=
ere will be a premium on driving accuracy, so scrambling, from wasteground =
and around the greens, and putting on the tricky surfaces could be pivotal.=
=20
Field: Just 4 of the Tour Championship field, including 2 Ryder Cuppers - K=
uchar and Zach Johnson.
Weather: Warm, dry and with nothing stronger than light winds.=20
Bookies: At 1.30pm only PP, BF, B365, LA + SJ had priced up.
Staking: 4 bets for an 11 point stake at odds of 33/1, 28/1, 40/1 & 30/1.
[NO 1 PICK] JONATHAN BYRD <http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-c= (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-c=)
lassic/winner> , TWO POINTS EACH WAY @ 33/1 LA; 28/1 SJ; 25/1 BF, B365, PP
One of the players who lives nearby, few in the field will know more about =
this course.
Arrives in eyecatching form. His last 5 starts include T21st Greenbrier, T1=
0th Turning Stone and T5th Viking Classic last week.
A very solid iron player (25th GIR; 4th last week) and a top 40 scrambler. =
His putting has been inconsistent this season, but it's only 3 years since =
he was 2nd P/GIR and knowing these greens should help his form with the fla=
tstick.
IN SUM: Course knowledge could give the 'locals' a significant advantage th=
is week and JB looks primed to take advantage.
[NO 2 PICK] DAVID TOMS <http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-clas= (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-clas=)
sic/winner> , ONE AND A HALF POINTS EACH WAY @ 28/1 SJ; 25/1 PP, B365, BF; =
only 20/1 LA.
David is putting in a strong finish to a poor season. In 24 starts he's mad=
e 18 cuts yet only 1 top 10.
Things turned around with 2nd in the Wyndham Championship in late August, a=
nd he arrives here after consecutive top 15s in the BMW and last week in th=
e Viking Classic.
He was 1st proximity to the hole, T3rd birdies and 8th P/GIR at Annandale l=
ast week.
IN SUM: Scheduled to be his last event of 2010 and will be looking to go ou=
t with a win.
BRIAN GAY <http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-classic/winner (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-classic/winner)> ,=
ONE POINT EACH WAY @ 40/1 PP, B365, BF, LA; only 35/1 SJ.
If the book on this course turns out to be correct, not many in this field =
have a game that's potentially better suited to its demands.
Brian sits 1st scrambling and 4th P/GIR. His lack of length means he's idea=
lly suited to par 70s and he arrives here with 3 top 30s in his last 4 star=
ts.
A Florida resident, so the Bermuda greens will suit, and has 3 top 16s in h=
is last 5 starts at Hilton Head -- including a win in 2008 -- to demonstrat=
e his aptitude for an American-style links course.
IN SUM: A winner in both 2008 and 2009 (twice), he can make up for a poor 2=
010 by going close this week.
BO VAN PELT <http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-classic/winner (http://www.oddschecker.com/golf/the-mcgladrey-classic/winner)>=
, ONE POINT EACH WAY @ 30/1 SJ; 28/1 BF; 25/1 PP, B365, LA
If Sea Island is indeed a similar test to Hilton Head then BVP will relish =
it: his form figures there over the last 4 years are T10th/T49th/T13th/T3rd=
.
Seemed to be in contention just about every week over the summer, posting 5=
top 5s in 11 starts and culminating in T3rd in the WGC Bridgestone Invitat=
ional.
Hasn't been quite so hot since, possibly feeling the pressure of his quest =
for a Ryder Cup wildcard. 3 top 30s in 5 starts suggests he hasn't given up=
on the season though and he's still 14th A-R and just outside the top 30 f=
or scrambling.
IN SUM: One of the best ball strikers in the field, should go well here.




Decent first round for all Toms 6 under, 3 others all 2 under.

[Golden Bear]

Decent first round for all Toms 6 under, 3 others all 2 under.

After 3 rounds, David Toms is at -10, Bo Van Pelt -7, Brian Gay -6. However we can forget Jonathan Byrd (+1)

Heath Slocum leads at -12 so all is not yet lost, - especially the each way bets!

[Higgy115]

After 3 rounds, David Toms is at -10, Bo Van Pelt -7, Brian Gay -6. However we can forget Jonathan Byrd (+1)

Heath Slocum leads at -12 so all is not yet lost, - especially the each way bets!

Almost, Toms bogeyed 16+17 to finish in 3rd, Van Pelt double bogeyed the last to drop from 2nd to 6th. At least 1 each way return, 2 with some bookies.