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down-the-slope
19-08-2010, 03:04 PM
I bet this is the moment several hundred Spaniards found out adrenaline is brown :agree:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11022260

heretoday
19-08-2010, 07:52 PM
A superb scene.

I wonder if the bull was thinking as he approached the arena wall:"This is the moment I have trained for all my life."

Stand aside Mourinho. There is a new Special One!

ArabHibee
19-08-2010, 09:03 PM
:faf: Mon the bull! :thumbsup:

hibsdaft
19-08-2010, 09:05 PM
except this wasn't a bullfight and the bull wasn't going to be harmed.

nothing to celebrate i'm afraid, nothing wrong with folk attending this event, more humane than horse racing imho.

ArabHibee
19-08-2010, 09:12 PM
except this wasn't a bullfight and the bull wasn't going to be harmed.

nothing to celebrate i'm afraid, nothing wrong with folk attending this event, more humane than horse racing imho.

:hmmm: So just because they weren't jabbing spears and knives into it and it doesn't get killed at the end, that's ok then?

Goading any kind of animal is wrong in my opinion.

hibsdaft
19-08-2010, 09:16 PM
:hmmm: So just because they weren't jabbing spears and knives into it and it doesn't get killed at the end, that's ok then?

because there was nothing remotely violent about the game, yes i don't see a big problem with it.

ArabHibee
19-08-2010, 09:24 PM
because there was nothing remotely violent about the game, yes i don't see a big problem with it.

I'll give you stick to poke my dog with. Its not a sharp stick, it's got rubber on the end of it. It's not violent and my dog isn't physically harmed. It's all just a game, you see.........

Deary me. :bitchy:

hibsdaft
19-08-2010, 09:25 PM
I'll give you stick to poke my dog with. Its not a sharp stick, it's got rubber on the end of it. It's not violent and my dog isn't physically harmed. It's all just a game, you see.........

Deary me. :bitchy:

that would be a form of violence, and wrong. running around avoiding an animal isn't.

ArabHibee
19-08-2010, 09:40 PM
that would be a form of violence, and wrong. running around avoiding an animal isn't.

That should read 'standing as close to the animal as possible to piss it off'.

You think its acceptable, I don't.

hibsdaft
19-08-2010, 09:53 PM
That should read 'standing as close to the animal as possible to piss it off'.

You think its acceptable, I don't.

and i sympathise with your view, its not the sort of behaviour i would imagine i would indulge in myself.

but i don't think those who go along to watch deserve to be gored for doing so either.

Removed
19-08-2010, 10:20 PM
and i sympathise with your view, its not the sort of behaviour i would imagine i would indulge in myself.

but i don't think those who go along to watch deserve to be gored for doing so either.

Why not? It's cruel, end of.

They got what they deserved imo.

Hainan Hibs
19-08-2010, 10:43 PM
I do get a tad too much excitement out of seeing a bull get it's own back.

I think bull fighting should be banned, however that warped side of me loves to see a bullfighter/fan getting speared by a bull.

hibsdaft
19-08-2010, 10:56 PM
Why not? It's cruel, end of.

They got what they deserved imo.

a ten year old boy deserved to be crushed by a bull for going to see a man run around a ring avoiding it, not even touching it?

get some perspective.

heretoday
19-08-2010, 11:05 PM
You goad a big powerful animal like that. One day it's going to snap. People will get hurt.

Eric Cantona comes to mind.

Removed
19-08-2010, 11:09 PM
a ten year old boy deserved to be crushed by a bull for going to see a man run around a ring avoiding it, not even touching it?

get some perspective.

No, but the parents do imo.

What about tormenting it and causing it stress for a cheap thrill and a laugh. That's my perspective.

AgentDaleCooper
20-08-2010, 12:05 AM
a ten year old boy deserved to be crushed by a bull for going to see a man run around a ring avoiding it, not even touching it?

get some perspective.

i'm going to make a bold assumption and say that plenty, if not most the people there enjoy bull fighting, and have paid to watch it. i'm glad the bull had the opportunity to give them HIS perspective.

as for the ten year old - he didn't deserve it, but that's not the point. he shouldn't have been there, noone should have, it's psychological abuse just for a cheap thrill, and it's really just a tame faction of one of the sickest things humans have created.

Dashing Bob S
20-08-2010, 05:57 AM
The bull should be served a banning order and have to report to a local police station when such events are taking place.


There's never any excuse for bulliganism.

bighairyfaeleith
20-08-2010, 06:07 AM
That s absolute quality and just goes to show that bulls can also evolve. Now they know how to jump into the stands bull fighting could become really interesting.

No sympathy for the folks in the stand, the parents shouldn't be taking there kids along, the tube in the lycra shouldn't be waving red things at the bull. The bull should be in a field eating and getting nice and fat so I can eat the ****er, thats what bulls should be doing!!

Beefster
20-08-2010, 07:15 AM
I presume the reaction would be the same if a horse in the Grand National vaulted the barriers and hospitalised multiple adults and kids?

heretoday
20-08-2010, 08:26 AM
I liked all the young lads in white waving their arms about and coming on all macho........once the bull was safely overpowered.

That's yer continental for ya.

marinello59
20-08-2010, 08:37 AM
I liked all the young lads in white waving their arms about and coming on all macho........once the bull was safely overpowered.

That's yer continental for ya.
Damn foreigners.:agree:
Did any of them fall over as if they had been shot, roll three times then scream for a penalty?

New Corrie
20-08-2010, 10:20 AM
I presume the reaction would be the same if a horse in the Grand National vaulted the barriers and hospitalised multiple adults and kids?

To a lot of people it probably would be. Many reckon National Hunt racing is cruel and the spectacle of seeing the screens going up every Cheltenham festival upsets quite a lot of people, but nothing ever gets done about it. Maybe because it's enjoyed by the Irish and the Working classes:confused: I don't really know, but regardless it's unacceptable, and I would laugh like pheck if Denman vaulted a fence and crushed a few festival goers, just like |I laughed like pheck at the bull scenario. not big on animal cruelty i'm afraid.

heretoday
20-08-2010, 01:00 PM
Damn foreigners.:agree:
Did any of them fall over as if they had been shot, roll three times then scream for a penalty?

No but the bull did! Mind you I think it had actually been shot........

down-the-slope
20-08-2010, 09:53 PM
i remember it being said..if you pull the cats tail often enough....eventualy you will get scratched

irritating 3/4 of a tonne of horned beef is not big, not smart (and thats not an animal rights / welfare perspective)

Greentinted
20-08-2010, 10:40 PM
Human beings with superior intelligence to all other known life forms goad and torment inferior life form into a state of fear and alarm in the name of entertainment. Inferior life form then defends itself by attacking its tormentors. Inferior life form does not have an understanding of superior life form's values, norms and other social dictats - ie it does not know its place.
Result - "The animal was brought under control after several minutes and was later killed."

As despicable as it is indefensible!

Lofarl
21-08-2010, 12:00 AM
Animal cruelty is something that really gets my goat, no pun intended. If you think bullfighting is such a hoot I suggest you watch some footage of
it. I'm sure the sight of a animal wailing and screaming as it's blood spills onto the sand is something you'd enjoy.

BEEJ
21-08-2010, 09:48 AM
It's amazing that Spain has not been forced by the European parliament to ban bull-fighting. I thought that was the kind of thing the lawmakers in Brussels / Strasbourg were good at?

New Corrie
21-08-2010, 11:20 AM
It's amazing that Spain has not been forced by the European parliament to ban bull-fighting. I thought that was the kind of thing the lawmakers in Brussels / Strasbourg were good at?

The EU should ban it, but believe it or not, instead of banning it, the EU provide subsidies for Bull fighting. It's actually disgusting providing these barbaric monsters with our money.

Hibrandenburg
22-08-2010, 08:41 PM
If you stick your finger in a Hornets nest!

AgentDaleCooper
25-08-2010, 01:05 PM
The EU should ban it, but believe it or not, instead of banning it, the EU provide subsidies for Bull fighting. It's actually disgusting providing these barbaric monsters with our money.

pretty fking outrageous.

HibsMax
25-08-2010, 03:43 PM
i'm going to make a bold assumption and say that plenty, if not most the people there enjoy bull fighting, and have paid to watch it. i'm glad the bull had the opportunity to give them HIS perspective.

as for the ten year old - he didn't deserve it, but that's not the point. he shouldn't have been there, noone should have, it's psychological abuse just for a cheap thrill, and it's really just a tame faction of one of the sickest things humans have created.


Human beings with superior intelligence to all other known life forms goad and torment inferior life form into a state of fear and alarm in the name of entertainment. Inferior life form then defends itself by attacking its tormentors. Inferior life form does not have an understanding of superior life form's values, norms and other social dictats - ie it does not know its place.
Result - "The animal was brought under control after several minutes and was later killed."

As despicable as it is indefensible!

Thanks, Guys, for saving me some typing.

A person doesn't have to physically harm an animal for it to be cruel.

How would people react if we took a human with a mental capacity similar to that of a bull and treated him / her in the same way? I'm sure it would be extremely entertaining....

:rolleyes: