Time for MOWO Awards?

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Just to fall in with a couple of other threads on here, since MOBO awards have been going for a while why no MOWOs?

[marinello59]

Just to fall in with a couple of other threads on here, since MOBO awards have been going for a while why no MOWOs?

Because the music would all be *****.:greengrin

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Now thats just racist! ;-)

[Woody1985]

I think this has come up before. I think a MOWO awards would be deemed racist by the media and no doubt many others.

I think the counter arguement was the MOBO awards wasn't racists because white artists had been nominated / won awards there in the past. I'm not sure if this is accurate or not but I suspect it's possible.

[Green Mikey]

I think this has come up before. I think a MOWO awards would be deemed racist by the media and no doubt many others.

I think the counter arguement was the MOBO awards wasn't racists because white artists had been nominated / won awards there in the past. I'm not sure if this is accurate or not but I suspect it's possible.

I thought they were re-branding the Country and Western Awards as the MOWOs:greengrin

The MOBO awards are for music of black origin, white people can win awards as long as they are making music in one of the genres the awards cover.

[Woody1985]

I thought they were re-branding the Country and Western Awards as the MOWOs:greengrin

The MOBO awards are for music of black origin, white people can win awards as long as they are making music in one of the genres the awards cover.

I think that's what we settled on in the last thread. :greengrin

But herein lies the debate. Why does music originated by black people need to be celebrated separately?

Surely you can have a rap/r'n'b awards that don't have to be defined as black. And there are probably many awards of these types throughout the world.

[marinello59]

I think that's what we settled on in the last thread. :greengrin

But herein lies the debate. Why does music originated by black people need to be celebrated separately?

Surely you can have a rap/r'n'b awards that don't have to be defined as black. And there are probably many awards of these types throughout the world.

And you could also ask, 'Why not?' :greengrin

[(((Fergus)))]

And you could also ask, 'Why not?' :greengrin

And MOWOs would be music of white origin in which blacks could participate, e.g., a pygmy playing a pibroch.

[Hibbyradge]

Can I nominate for the MOFO awards?

[Phil D. Rolls]

Surely the point about MOBO is that all other awards really concentrate on white music?

[Woody1985]

Surely the point about MOBO is that all other awards really concentrate on white music?

Do they?

Is that why Eminem has won countless awards playing 'black' music?

[HibeeB]

Surely the point about MOBO is that all other awards really concentrate on white music?


Do they?

Is that why Eminem has won countless awards playing 'black' music?

And Michael Jackson won a few award for................


Bad example :rolleyes:

[steakbake]

Dont see the point in getting aggrieved about there being a MOBO but not a MOWO.

I think when you consider the history of civilization, white people have had possibly more than their fair share of cultural, societal and political domination.

MOBO isn't there to redress some kind of imbalance. It's just there to celebrate music of black origin and y'know, white people have won awards from it too.

Lets be honest, MOWO would be shi!te.

[Hal Jordan]

Just give the prize to Johnny Rotten every time.:thumbsup:

[Woody1985]

Dont see the point in getting aggrieved about there being a MOBO but not a MOWO.

I think when you consider the history of civilization, white people have had possibly more than their fair share of cultural, societal and political domination.

MOBO isn't there to redress some kind of imbalance. It's just there to celebrate music of black origin and y'know, white people have won awards from it too.

Lets be honest, MOWO would be shi!te.

I think the main issue for people is that the name is so explicit. Why does music originated by a particular race have to be celebrated in it's own right? Personally I don't care either way but it just seems bizarre and illogical to me.

[Phil D. Rolls]

Do they?

Is that why Eminem has won countless awards playing 'black' music?

But Eminem is white? :confused:

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I only posted it as a wind up cos of some other threads that had been posted at the same time! The history of civilization etc didnae enter my mind when I was contemplating all the MOWO awards Steps have missed out on!

[Woody1985]

But Eminem is white? :confused:

I know he's white. My point is that he's won countless 'white awards' (whatever they are) playing 'black' music so all the other awards don't focus on 'white' music.

[Phil D. Rolls]

I know he's white. My point is that he's won countless 'white awards' (whatever they are) playing 'black' music so all the other awards don't focus on 'white' music.

I get you. Surely all music is of human origin and that's all there is to it?

[Woody1985]

I get you. Surely all music is of human origin and that's all there is to it?

So why have one that celebrates music of black origin. :devil:

[Phil D. Rolls]

So why have one that celebrates music of black origin. :devil:

There is no point as far as I can see.

[steakbake]

I'd like there to be some kind of awards which celebrate the contribution french people have made to music.

The MOFOs have a certain ring to them.

[Hibby70]

what about Jewish origin?

[Pete]

I get you. Surely all music is of human origin and that's all there is to it?

When you think about it...the MOBO awards are valid.

Classical music is the only one I can't trace back to black origins. We are all the human race but can you think of a popular musical scene that can't be traced back to black?

Is classical music the only real music of white origin?

[Woody1985]

what about Jewish origin?

:tee hee:

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

What about North German origin!

[Woody1985]

What about North German origin!

You're going to be in trouble now Hutchy! Stick to the betting threads! :greengrin

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I know, courting controversy now and again is quite funny tho! I might start swearing in front of bairns at the game soon too!

[Mibbes Aye]

When you think about it...the MOBO awards are valid.

Classical music is the only one I can't trace back to black origins. We are all the human race but can you think of a popular musical scene that can't be traced back to black?

Is classical music the only real music of white origin?

Depends on how you're defining stuff, but essentially I would argue that what most of us understand as 'classical music' in the West is a fairly new concept (new as in only a couple of hundred years old), because it wasn't probably until the 19th century that there was perspective on it. Before then it was just 'music', or rather, it was music perhaps more associated with the wealthy and the Church (interchangeable in those days to an extent).

It was the Church that was the driving force, directly or indirectly, for much music up until the 19th century, and that was in both form and style. I suppose that classical music is of black origin then, given that it was rooted in, and shaped by Christianity, and Jesus was black after all, wasn't he?

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

Depends on how you're defining stuff, but essentially I would argue that what most of us understand as 'classical music' in the West is a fairly new concept (new as in only a couple of hundred years old), because it wasn't probably until the 19th century that there was perspective on it. Before then it was just 'music', or rather, it was music perhaps more associated with the wealthy and the Church (interchangeable in those days to an extent).

It was the Church that was the driving force, directly or indirectly, for much music up until the 19th century, and that was in both form and style. I suppose that classical music is of black origin then, given that it was rooted in, and shaped by Christianity, and Jesus was black after all, wasn't he?

I dunno if jesus was black obviously, but i doubt he was - being jewish from palestine, he probably just had a good tan!

[Pete]

Depends on how you're defining stuff, but essentially I would argue that what most of us understand as 'classical music' in the West is a fairly new concept (new as in only a couple of hundred years old), because it wasn't probably until the 19th century that there was perspective on it. Before then it was just 'music', or rather, it was music perhaps more associated with the wealthy and the Church (interchangeable in those days to an extent).

It was the Church that was the driving force, directly or indirectly, for much music up until the 19th century, and that was in both form and style. I suppose that classical music is of black origin then, given that it was rooted in, and shaped by Christianity, and Jesus was black after all, wasn't he?

Jesus was a black man?






No...Jesus was batman!

[CropleyWasGod]

Jesus was a black man?






No...Jesus was batman!

:bitchy: That was Bruce Wayne.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

He was a black man in the "Like a prayer" video, so, it must be true!