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Hermit Crab
19-07-2010, 05:07 PM
I have just been told that the cost of the trip will be £595 for the charter leaving on the Wed and back on the Fri. Steep but i wouldnt miss it. I think that price may put people off though. Any thoughts?

Frazerbob
19-07-2010, 05:10 PM
That is steep. Even at this late stage you'll be able to get a much better deal if you're prepared to do the work and travel off the beaten track a bit.

I am stuggling for time off work so would only be interested in a quick "in and out" day trip. Ah well, there's always the next round!

Baldy
19-07-2010, 05:15 PM
I have just been told that the cost of the trip will be £595 for the charter leaving on the Wed and back on the Fri. Steep but i wouldnt miss it. I think that price may put people off though. Any thoughts?

is that the ITA one?

Hermit Crab
19-07-2010, 05:17 PM
is that the ITA one?


Yeah it is Baldy.

Kojock
19-07-2010, 05:19 PM
I have just been told that the cost of the trip will be £595 for the charter leaving on the Wed and back on the Fri. Steep but i wouldnt miss it. I think that price may put people off though. Any thoughts?

Understatement of the year there. £600 for two nights out - its not steep its ripping the p1sh.

I certainly wont be paying that.

PaulSmith
19-07-2010, 05:22 PM
Thats a no from me

blackpoolhibs
19-07-2010, 05:23 PM
I'm not paying £600 for a 2 day trip.

Hibbyradge
19-07-2010, 05:24 PM
Maribor is only a 12 hour drive from Calais (850 miles).

Dover is only 500 miles from my house.

I can get 4 in my car.

:hmmm:

Gala Foxes
19-07-2010, 05:24 PM
to avoid the hassle and risk of making our own way there I am in

ronaldo7
19-07-2010, 05:25 PM
I don't think you'll have a problem getting a seat on this plane:greengrin

Anyone heard if the club have done anything yet??

Jamesie
19-07-2010, 05:27 PM
I don't think you'll have a problem getting a seat on this plane:greengrin

Anyone heard if the club have done anything yet??

I think it will be lucky to even get off the ground at that price. You could get at least a week in Cuba for that price!

Spender
19-07-2010, 05:27 PM
I have just been told that the cost of the trip will be £595 for the charter leaving on the Wed and back on the Fri. Steep but i wouldnt miss it. I think that price may put people off though. Any thoughts?

ouch!!!! thats a sore one, its a good wee idea but I wont be investing,Im out!

Kojock
19-07-2010, 05:30 PM
I have just been told that the cost of the trip will be £595 for the charter leaving on the Wed and back on the Fri. Steep but i wouldnt miss it. I think that price may put people off though. Any thoughts?

How reliable is your info mate.

Dashing Bob S
19-07-2010, 05:30 PM
I think it will be lucky to even get off the ground at that price. You could get at least a week in Cuba for that price!

I'm rather reassured by the price, and shall be booking forthwith.

No, one merely has to think of Italian handcrafted leather shoes, and the term 'opportunity cost' springs militantly to mind.

HUTCHYHIBBY
19-07-2010, 05:31 PM
The internet is a wonderful invention, have a wee hour searching about and it'll be fine!

blackpoolhibs
19-07-2010, 05:32 PM
Maribor is only a 12 hour drive from Calais (850 miles).

Dover is only 500 miles from my house.

I can get 4 in my car.

:hmmm:

Dave if thats a goer, i'd be interested.

BroxburnHibee
19-07-2010, 05:37 PM
Maribor is only a 12 hour drive from Calais (850 miles).

Dover is only 500 miles from my house.

I can get 4 in my car.

:hmmm:

Good idea Dave - I'll even lend you my sat nav :tee hee:

.Sean.
19-07-2010, 05:37 PM
I thought there was a wee chance I could have afforded it, but unfortunately £600 plus spending money is a bit too steep for me and my pals. Had I not booked Blackpool i'd have been going. Here's hoping we get through and get a draw a bit closer to home. Gutted to be missing out but apprentice wages don't really stretch to a trip to Slovenia or Hungary unfortunately!

Dashing Bob S
19-07-2010, 05:38 PM
Unless they plan to charter the Presidential plane and do luxury hotels, I really serious doubt they could get the numbers to make it viable at that price.

Hermit Crab
19-07-2010, 05:41 PM
How reliable is your info mate.


Very reliable. Been a trusted friend for years

nickwhibs
19-07-2010, 05:42 PM
That price is an absolute joke! Will definately be making our own way. Will be more of an adventure anyway :thumbsup:

Hermit Crab
19-07-2010, 05:42 PM
to avoid the hassle and risk of making our own way there I am in


Good glad to hear it

lucky
19-07-2010, 05:49 PM
Its steep.
On easyjet from Stanstead to Slovenia £175 and 40 euros to maribor by train and hotel for two nights around £100 for a twin. Independent travel for me.

Kojock
19-07-2010, 05:53 PM
So if 250 people pay £595 that makes a total of £148,750.

Now I dont know much about the cost of hiring a plane but I know I could get two nights B&B at a hotel for £70-£80. (Cost for party £20,000) Add in the cost of some coaches for the journey to and from the airport at say £30 per head return (Cost for party £7500) So where has the remaining £121,750 gone..:confused:

Dashing Bob S
19-07-2010, 05:59 PM
So if 250 people pay £595 that makes a total of £148,750.

Now I dont know much about the cost of hiring a plane but I know I could get two nights B&B at a hotel for £70-£80. (Cost for party £20,000) Add in the cost of some coaches for the journey to and from the airport at say £30 per head return (Cost for party £7500) So where has the remaining £121,750 gone..:confused:

I'm sure it's nothing to do with him, but why is the word 'Petrie' suddenly ringing in my ears?

scoopyboy
19-07-2010, 06:05 PM
Very reliable. Been a trusted friend for years

Is it the same price for both venues?

Hibby D
19-07-2010, 06:18 PM
So if 250 people pay £595 that makes a total of £148,750.

Now I dont know much about the cost of hiring a plane but I know I could get two nights B&B at a hotel for £70-£80. (Cost for party £20,000) Add in the cost of some coaches for the journey to and from the airport at say £30 per head return (Cost for party £7500) So where has the remaining £121,750 gone..:confused:

Looks like we're in the wrong profession!!!!

I'm out at that price :no way:

ronaldo7
19-07-2010, 06:21 PM
Very reliable. Been a trusted friend for years

Has your friend not just given you a number, £595 to be posted on the net, and lets see how it goes:fishin:

I've not received a reply from them yet.

Maybe when it comes back it'll be £495:greengrin

Jamesie
19-07-2010, 06:23 PM
Looks like we're in the wrong profession!!!!

I'm out at that price :no way:

It cost less to go to Georgia D!

Hermit Crab
19-07-2010, 06:33 PM
Has your friend not just given you a number, £595 to be posted on the net, and lets see how it goes:fishin:

I've not received a reply from them yet.

Maybe when it comes back it'll be £495:greengrin


Neither have i recieved a reply yet but im sure he wouldnt say it as a wind up. Even before the meeting today i was told it would be around the 600.

Spender
19-07-2010, 06:34 PM
So if 250 people pay £595 that makes a total of £148,750.

Now I dont know much about the cost of hiring a plane but I know I could get two nights B&B at a hotel for £70-£80. (Cost for party £20,000) Add in the cost of some coaches for the journey to and from the airport at say £30 per head return (Cost for party £7500) So where has the remaining £121,750 gone..:confused:

not wanting to be over critical of the costing,but I had a wee look on lastminute.com who offer a service to charter your own plane, and the ball park figure for a 200 seater aircraft Edinburgh to Maribor was £57000, they put forward your requirements to charter airlines then they bid for the job. so based on this it would workout around 300 quid for 200 people or 190 quid for 300 people,say bung 20 quid on top off that £6000 to cover staff to run the event.

Hermit Crab
19-07-2010, 06:41 PM
Just got email confirming the price from ita travel Defo £595 folks.

blackpoolhibs
19-07-2010, 06:44 PM
Just got email confirming the price from ita travel Defo £595 folks.

Me too, not for me.

EUROPA CUP EITHER SLOVENIA OR HUNGARY
ATOL PROTECTED PACKAGE (NO.


The cost of the package for the Europa Cup is £595.00. We have tried our best to get the lowest prices but all charter companies are about the same price and we got the lowest price possible. We also looked at all options including one and two day flights but they were all about the same and not worth compromising the extra days stay. We have arranged suitable hotels wherever the destination may be on a b/b basis. All transfers abroad are included. Although the cost is more than we anticipated this is due to greater demand for football flights during European Competitions. As previously stated it is on a first come first served basis. We have a list which is in strict order of time and date of enquiry and the people who take up the offer will be treated according to their number on the list. We ask that you confirm your intention to take up this offer as soon as possible. Flight timings can only be confirmed once we know the destination. Telephone lines will be open until 9pm every evening for confirmation by credit card etc. If you wish to make payment by cash we have arranged for the facility a the Hibs Supporters Club at 7pm
on Wednesday but you MUST confirm you want to book.

As we said earlier we need passport details (we do not want to run away with your passport it is so that we can ensure we have not been double booked).

As we do not have our office in Queensferry Road any more bookings can only be taken either by e-mail/fax or telephone.

Andy74
19-07-2010, 07:06 PM
I should have a couple of seats on a route that will
cost about £300 total.

squire
19-07-2010, 07:12 PM
I'm sure ITA have done their best to provide the cheapest price they can for us Hibees but £600 is ridiculous. oh well bring on the great planes, trains and automobile adventure to Slovenia or Hungary :cool2:

Lucius Apuleius
19-07-2010, 07:24 PM
Good idea Dave - I'll even lend you my sat nav :tee hee:

Oh ****:boo hoo:

hibeemad
19-07-2010, 07:33 PM
thats me out too

Rediculous price, they are trying to fleece us

Total rip off

Sick Boy
19-07-2010, 07:42 PM
Never made to to the Ukraine last time round so I promised myself I'd go to the next one whatever the cost. Initially, it does seem a bit steep for a 2 day trip but I'm sure they've done their best to provide the best deal. Once we know for definite where we will be going, I'll look into making my own way there and see how it compares. Might take a bit longer but the added adventure will be worth it I'm sure.

Hibby70
19-07-2010, 07:43 PM
dont think they are trying to fleece anyone too much. Imagine the plane costs in the region of £350-400. Hotel say £50 per night. Add on buses and a 10% profit and you wouldnt be too far off. Doing it yourself is going to cost in the region of £400 to 450 so is the extra ease worth 150 -200? Argument that it is.

hfc1875x
19-07-2010, 07:47 PM
dont think they are trying to fleece anyone too much. Imagine the plane costs in the region of £350-400. Hotel say £50 per night. Add on buses and a 10% profit and you wouldnt be too far off. Doing it yourself is going to cost in the region of £400 to 450 so is the extra ease worth 150 -200? Argument that it is.

10% profit ? You being serious, that's daylight robbery mate. You can do it yourself for half the cost if there's a group of you and your willing to planes,trains and automobile it.

600 knicker is a joke, and I dont think many folks will sign up for that.

Hermit Crab
19-07-2010, 07:47 PM
dont think they are trying to fleece anyone too much. Imagine the plane costs in the region of £350-400. Hotel say £50 per night. Add on buses and a 10% profit and you wouldnt be too far off. Doing it yourself is going to cost in the region of £400 to 450 so is the extra ease worth 150 -200? Argument that it is.

It makes sense to go this way as you are virtually guaranteed to get there. :agree:

Gala Foxes
19-07-2010, 07:47 PM
dont think they are trying to fleece anyone too much. Imagine the plane costs in the region of £350-400. Hotel say £50 per night. Add on buses and a 10% profit and you wouldnt be too far off. Doing it yourself is going to cost in the region of £400 to 450 so is the extra ease worth 150 -200? Argument that it is.

agree with Hibby70 - don't expect its easy job to co-ordinate plane-buses-transfers-hotel for 300 +people at less than a weeks notice

hfc1875x
19-07-2010, 07:50 PM
agree with Hibby70 - don't expect its easy job to co-ordinate plane-buses-transfers-hotel for 300 +people at less than a weeks notice

I'm sure the 17k profit will soften the blow :agree:

blackpoolhibs
19-07-2010, 07:51 PM
agree with Hibby70 - don't expect its easy job to co-ordinate plane-buses-transfers-hotel for 300 +people at less than a weeks notice

I don't think its easy either, but i can get there and back for £320ish. £280 difference nah not for me.

Dashing Bob S
19-07-2010, 07:55 PM
Six hundred quid is small beer. You could spend that on a donkey ride in Blackpool if you were lucky enough to get in touch with the right people who run the correct websites.

hfc1875x
19-07-2010, 07:57 PM
Six hundred quid is small beer. You could spend that on a donkey ride in Blackpool if you were lucky enough to get in touch with the right people who run the correct websites.

What does that mean ?

lucky
19-07-2010, 08:02 PM
I actually think that ITA are banking on it being to much hassle to arrange ourselves with just 6 days notice as such in true capitalist style they are exploiting the market as they are the only show in town.

I think they are making a lot more than 10% profit per person,

As previously post hire of plane £57k, hotels £20k transport max £6k, £2k for staff costs total £85k

Even allowing for plane hire being £100K still leaving a tidy profit of £22k

as such this dragon is out :grr:

ronaldo7
19-07-2010, 08:02 PM
Edinburgh to Stanstead return £105
Stanstead to Graz £205
Train to Maribor 26 euros. It's only 40 miles away.
Hotel in Maribor 88 euros for a single room for 2 nights B&B

The other £200 spending money:agree:

Or Stanstead to Ljubljana £195
Train to Maribor 10 euros

hibeemad
19-07-2010, 08:03 PM
agree with Hibby70 - don't expect its easy job to co-ordinate plane-buses-transfers-hotel for 300 +people at less than a weeks notice

It is easy for them as that is their job.

scoopyboy
19-07-2010, 08:11 PM
I was hoping to go with ITA but £595 is extortionate.

Back to the drawing board.

Graz in Austria is only an hour on the train away from Maribor and there are six trains a day.

That will be my starting point, if anybody has sussed out a route gimme a shout and it will save me a helluva lot of searching.

CraigHibee
19-07-2010, 08:34 PM
just a tad on the expensive side! was thinking of possibly going over as it would be an experience! but not at that cost, simply couldnt afford it :boo hoo:

BS44
19-07-2010, 08:47 PM
I was hoping to go with ITA but £595 is extortionate.

Back to the drawing board.

Graz in Austria is only an hour on the train away from Maribor and there are six trains a day.

That will be my starting point, if anybody has sussed out a route gimme a shout and it will save me a helluva lot of searching.

Have you looked at Edinburgh to Bratislava?

Craig_in_Prague
19-07-2010, 08:49 PM
Manchester to Budapest 28th to 30th is 235 quid, not great but from there folks could make both potential destinations.

Unfortunately with the draw so near the matches it makes it hard for everyone, either for time and/or money.

:grr:

Antifa Hibs
19-07-2010, 09:02 PM
600 quid :faf::faf:

.Sean.
19-07-2010, 09:05 PM
Taking out an overdraft does sound VERY tempting right now... i don't wanna miss his one.

down-the-slope
19-07-2010, 09:07 PM
was reckoning of £400/£450.....so disappointing.

Difficult all round due to short time and as yet no confirmation of location...UEFA need to think this through a bit...think of the chaos all over Europe with so many teams in at this stage and none knowing for sure until less than a week before....

charter planes will be like hens teeth..

However at £600 the flight component must be £400.....I went to singapore from Edinburgh last July for £390.......:rolleyes:

HibbyDave
19-07-2010, 09:12 PM
any word on an official hibs charter?



Also, where are you guys getting the costs for the posts you are posting? I cannot find a flight from Stansted to Graz for less than £290 return on 28/07/10 returning 30/07/10 (after allowing for taxes etc).

And another thing.......who says Maribor will get through? Videoton and a trip to Budapest beckons?

ronaldo7
19-07-2010, 09:26 PM
any word on an official hibs charter?



Also, where are you guys getting the costs for the posts you are posting? I cannot find a flight from Stansted to Graz for less than £290 return on 28/07/10 returning 30/07/10 (after allowing for taxes etc).

And another thing.......who says Maribor will get through? Videoton and a trip to Budapest beckons?

The prices to Graz have gone up £100 in the last 2 hours:cool2:

HibbyDave
19-07-2010, 09:55 PM
Cheers Ronaldo, mibbe see you over there? If I can get the costs within budget.

ronaldo7
19-07-2010, 09:59 PM
Cheers Ronaldo, mibbe see you over there? If I can get the costs within budget.

Dave,

Check out Luton to Budapest currently with Wizz air for £135, and you can get to luton for £87.

The train costs to either Maribor or for Videoton are negligible.

:thumbsup:

Jack
19-07-2010, 10:12 PM
Bus at half the price!
.

Hibby70
19-07-2010, 10:22 PM
remember ita are having to assume that they'll sell the whole flight. Say its 80k for a 200 seat plane then if they dont sell a good whack of the seats their profit margin will start dropping. Ok you can do it cheaper going budget airlines but i dont think ita are deliberately fleecing the fans, its just an expensive thing to do privately.

Jack
19-07-2010, 10:40 PM
ITA can assume what they like I can assure them they have pitched this too expensively.
.
They'd have been better saying they couldn't do it rather than look as though they were taking advantage.

Dalkeith
19-07-2010, 10:41 PM
:top marks
Bus at half the price!
.

http://www.hibeesbounce.com/forum/showthread.php?98507-Charter-Flight-To-Europa-League&p=1222438&viewfull=1#post1222438

now that would be a trip

blackpoolhibs
19-07-2010, 10:45 PM
Just had a quick look on the internet, £150 from luton to budapest, £50 to hire a car, and £50 for a room for 2 nights in maribor based on 3 sharing. £250 plus whatever petrol you use. Of couse you have to get to luton, no idea what that would cost from edinburgh.

Forgot to mention its 174 miles from budapest to moribor.

monktonharp
19-07-2010, 10:50 PM
remember ita are having to assume that they'll sell the whole flight. Say its 80k for a 200 seat plane then if they dont sell a good whack of the seats their profit margin will start dropping. Ok you can do it cheaper going budget airlines but i dont think ita are deliberately fleecing the fans, its just an expensive thing to do privately.:agree:I was hoping of a figure around 420 - 475 tops,but rheir price is their price, and if you want to get there from Edin. and back,on time safely with very little hassle,accomodation etc, then surely that is the best option? how much are you likely to spend in either of those countries? cheap drink, or cheap food,if anyone needs food? :dunno:

Wembley67
19-07-2010, 10:56 PM
was the trip to Athens not around the £700 mark :confused::confused::confused:

Dalkeith
19-07-2010, 10:58 PM
was the trip to Athens not around the £700 mark :confused::confused::confused:

aye if you went twice:grr:

blackpoolhibs
19-07-2010, 10:59 PM
was the trip to Athens not around the £700 mark :confused::confused::confused:

I went off my own back for the game that was cancelled, and paid £300 for 5 days in a hotel and flights. Went back the week after with the official flight, and think it was £350, although i might be wrong, and that was just a flight.

Wembley67
19-07-2010, 11:02 PM
aye if you went twice:grr:


I went off my own back for the game that was cancelled, and paid £300 for 5 days in a hotel and flights. Went back the week after with the official flight, and think it was £350, although i might be wrong, and that was just a flight.

Hmmmm must be getting confused, only went for the game that never was so the £700 must have been the total spend - some price for which ended up pretty much a bed for the night :greengrin

Dalkeith
19-07-2010, 11:03 PM
Just had a quick look on the internet, £150 from luton to budapest, £50 to hire a car, and £50 for a room for 2 nights in maribor based on 3 sharing. £250 plus whatever petrol you use. Of couse you have to get to luton, no idea what that would cost from edinburgh.

Forgot to mention its 174 miles from budapest to moribor.

you may not need a car we may be playing in budapest

monktonharp
19-07-2010, 11:07 PM
you may not need a car we may be playing in budapestwhy budapest?

deano6-2
19-07-2010, 11:08 PM
We're driving to london a we've just booked a flight from London gatwick to Vienna on the wednsday morning returning on the friday for £181 a skull. then its only £40 for the train to either Maribor or hungary plus accomodation say £50. With petrol and parking included i think we'll have done it for around £350 max. A long way for a shortcut but it will be an adventure! Can't wait!

Dalkeith
19-07-2010, 11:13 PM
why budapest?

1st leg score

Videoton 1 NK Maribor 1

tie can go anyway although maribor have the home advantage on thursday night

Dalkeith
19-07-2010, 11:15 PM
We're driving to london a we've just booked a flight from London gatwick to Vienna on the wednsday morning returning on the friday for £181 a skull. then its only £40 for the train to either Maribor or hungary plus accomodation say £50. With petrol and parking included i think we'll have done it for around £350 max. A long way for a shortcut but it will be an adventure! Can't wait!


looking at car down to luton and flight to budapest

deano6-2
19-07-2010, 11:19 PM
looking at car down to luton and flight to budapest

We've just booked it the now as the flights just keep going up and its only 3 hours on the trainto either maribor or videoton.

hibsboy90
19-07-2010, 11:33 PM
you may not need a car we may be playing in budapest


why budapest?
I'm guessing that it's to do with Videoton playing in a city pretty close to Budapest (40m). Most people on here are assuming that it's maribor we play, but it could be videoton.

Dalkeith
19-07-2010, 11:35 PM
We've just booked it the now as the flights just keep going up and its only 3 hours on the trainto either maribor or videoton.


flight are you on

WindyMiller
19-07-2010, 11:38 PM
Ryanair's site is showing Stanstead to Graz, which is handy for either destination, for £294.

Jamie
19-07-2010, 11:41 PM
Have you looked at Edinburgh to Bratislava?

Ryanair: £292

Then again that was for a return in a week lol

deano6-2
19-07-2010, 11:42 PM
flight are you on
07:25 from gatwick on the wednesday returning on the friday at 21:10with easy jet

KirkyHibs
19-07-2010, 11:42 PM
flight are you on


Its the 7.25am flight gets into Vienna for 1030. Can't grumble at £180!! not looking forward to the drive to Gatwick though:boo hoo:

Calvin
20-07-2010, 12:05 AM
I am now seriously considering driving.

Unfortunately I now have to attend a funeral in York on the Tuesday, but should be away by 2pm. About 5 hours to Dover from there, and I can spend the night in Brugge to get an early start at around 6/7am.

From Brugge it's a 13 hour drive to Székesfehérvár and an 11 and a half hour drive to Maribor.

Quite a task to drive on my own the whole day to be there on the Wednesday night, so I figure if I stay in possibly Salzburg if we go to Maribor then it's not too bad a drive for the final leg the next day, and probably Linz if it's Székesfehérvár.

Scraping the barrel for ways to get there now but it looks viable on paper and I can leave it til the Monday to decide. Another positive is that I get to see a wee bit of Europe's roads, drive on an Autobahn and have a car when I'm over there. Negatives are having to get hotels in Belgium and Austria and driving all day for two days!

jgl07
20-07-2010, 12:14 AM
I'm guessing that it's to do with Videoton playing in a city pretty close to Budapest (40m). Most people on here are assuming that it's maribor we play, but it could be videoton.
40m! Now that is close.

Andy74
20-07-2010, 09:20 AM
Now that i've booked mine....

Anyone looked at East Midlands to Treviso in Italy? not too bad a drive from there over to Slovenia in particular.

I've still got 2 seats in the car going to to East Midlands on the Wednesday and then seats in the car on to wherever we end up, and back, of course!

Flights currently £125 return. Car hire if split 4 ways will be about £25 and petrol and parking for the UK leg and petrol over there would be about £40 each. With accomodation , hostels will do, we'd be loking at a total of about £250 Wed to Sat getting 2 and a bit full days there.

PM if interested in the 2 spare seats.

Hibernia Na Eir
20-07-2010, 09:21 AM
Understatement of the year there. £600 for two nights out - its not steep its ripping the p1sh.

I certainly wont be paying that.

get to NY and back for that :agree:

no ta.

Hibbyradge
20-07-2010, 10:34 AM
Dave if thats a goer, i'd be interested.

It's a possibility, but my mate is in Panama at the moment and would need to discuss with him.

Also, he has a meeting in Edinburgh on the Wednesday morning so if he can't cancel, we're goosed.

I'm guessing fuel would be about £400 and the ferry looks to be around £50.

I'd need to get you guys insured too, so that would add to the cost, but it looks do-able financially.

We'd basically have to travel for 24 hours each way. Unless we set off on Tuesday night...

Better keep looking at other options too!

blackpoolhibs
20-07-2010, 10:55 AM
It's a possibility, but my mate is in Panama at the moment and would need to discuss with him.

Also, he has a meeting in Edinburgh on the Wednesday morning so if he can't cancel, we're goosed.

I'm guessing fuel would be about £400 and the ferry looks to be around £50.

I'd need to get you guys insured too, so that would add to the cost, but it looks do-able financially.

We'd basically have to travel for 24 hours each way. Unless we set off on Tuesday night...

Better keep looking at other options too!

Ok mate.

Kojock
20-07-2010, 01:59 PM
After a few hours searching best I can come up with is for 3 of us sharing.
Easyjet - Edinburgh to Munich (Outgoing Wed 28th return Fri 30th) Overnight stay Munich. Hire car to either destination. One night stay Maribor / Székesfehérvár, Returning Friday evening


Flight - £160
Room 4* Best Western ERB Munich - £23 each
Car Hire - £40 each
Fuel - £40 (each max)

TOTAL £263

Only thing to book is room in Maribor Slovenia / Székesfehérvár Hungary

Maribor is about a 4 1/2 hour drive from Munich
Worse case scenario Székesfehérvár, Hungary is about a 7 1/2 hour drive from Munich :thumbsup:

blackpoolhibs
20-07-2010, 02:20 PM
After a few hours searching best I can come up with is for 3 of us sharing.
Easyjet - Edinburgh to Munich (Outgoing Wed 28th return Fri 30th) Overnight stay Munich. Hire car to either destination. One night stay Maribor / Székesfehérvár, Returning Friday evening


Flight - £160
Room 4* Best Western ERB Munich - £23 each
Car Hire - £40 each
Fuel - £40 (each max)

TOTAL £263

Only thing to book is room in Maribor Slovenia / Székesfehérvár Hungary

Maribor is about a 4 1/2 hour drive from Munich
Worse case scenario Székesfehérvár, Hungary is about a 7 1/2 hour drive from Munich :thumbsup:

Is it ok to hire a car in one country, then use it to travel to another? :confused:

trev the hat
20-07-2010, 02:33 PM
http://www.seat61.com/Slovenia.htm

Trains in europe are far better than here.
Still need to get to the smoke tho.

Andy74
20-07-2010, 02:37 PM
Is it ok to hire a car in one country, then use it to travel to another? :confused:

Yes it's fine.

I'll be doing it from Italy over the border and back.

I've still got 2 seats and will be passing down the M74/M6 route or whatever it is on Wednesday!

Treviso is showing as no more than about 3 1/2 hrs from Maribor. Add a few hours on for hungary though!

DC_Hibs
20-07-2010, 02:41 PM
Yes it's fine.

I'll be doing it from Italy over the border and back.

I've still got 2 seats and will be passing down the M74/M6 route or whatever it is on Wednesday!

Treviso is showing as no more than about 3 1/2 hrs from Maribor. Add a few hours on for hungary though!

Worth checking up front re cross border being OK (included in price) in travel policy as first quote I had it wasnt.

Also travelling by car from Munich.

Easyjet flight times (direct from EDI) Wed - Fri give plenty of time to get to and from the game and fares are still pretty reasonable.

blackpoolhibs
20-07-2010, 02:42 PM
Yes it's fine.

I'll be doing it from Italy over the border and back.

I've still got 2 seats and will be passing down the M74/M6 route or whatever it is on Wednesday!

Treviso is showing as no more than about 3 1/2 hrs from Maribor. Add a few hours on for hungary though!

Thanks for that info, i'd love to share with you, but there are more than 2 of us who want to go now. Thinking about Lee's bus, but also thinking about flying to munich too, then hiring a car there.

Darth Hibbie
20-07-2010, 02:50 PM
Yes it's fine.

I'll be doing it from Italy over the border and back.

I've still got 2 seats and will be passing down the M74/M6 route or whatever it is on Wednesday!

Treviso is showing as no more than about 3 1/2 hrs from Maribor. Add a few hours on for hungary though!

Andy seems like a good offer to me. I would love to take you up on it but unfortunately I need to work on the Friday night. If that changes I will get back to you to see if you still have a space but I am not too hopeful.

Andy74
20-07-2010, 02:58 PM
Andy seems like a good offer to me. I would love to take you up on it but unfortunately I need to work on the Friday night. If that changes I will get back to you to see if you still have a space but I am not too hopeful.

Aye, no bother, I'll post up again if the spaces go.

Makes no real odds but would be nice to be able to fill the car and let another couple of Hibbies get there.

Hermit Crab
20-07-2010, 03:26 PM
Ok latest from ita is that they need atleast 180 people booking on the 2day charter to make it worth thier while if they dont get that amount its getting knocked on the heed. They would then look at the possibility of doing 1day charter although they have not stated a price yet and this is only if they dont get thier minimum 180 bookings. Was told they would know by the end of the day if the 2day charter was going to go ahead. I await thier updates folks

trev the hat
20-07-2010, 03:37 PM
http://www.seat61.com/Slovenia.htm

Trains in europe are far better than here.
Still need to get to the smoke tho.


http://www.bahn.de/i/view/GBR/en/index.shtml

Good Option. 2 night trains mean 2 less days digs to pay for .

Any Thoughts ??

Kojock
20-07-2010, 03:44 PM
Ok latest from ita is that they need atleast 180 people booking on the 2day charter to make it worth thier while if they dont get that amount its getting knocked on the heed. They would then look at the possibility of doing 1day charter although they have not stated a price yet and this is only if they dont get thier minimum 180 bookings. Was told they would know by the end of the day if the 2day charter was going to go ahead. I await thier updates folks

I know at least 15 people who would have went had the price been more reasonable. The price is ludicrous for a two day jaunt. They have shot themselves in the foot with this one.:agree:

Hermit Crab
20-07-2010, 03:46 PM
I know at least 15 people who would have went had the price been more reasonable. The price is ludicrous for a two day jaunt. They have shot themselves in the foot with this one.:agree:


Thing is you dont how many have actually booked as they dont all post on this site there is also the bounce guys aswell. Will need to wait and see. It must be because its such short notice that the price is so high

Zondervan
20-07-2010, 04:33 PM
LATEST PRICES / INFO

Taken from ITA email:

We have managed to get airlines etc. to look at their prices and now we can offer as follows:

As we do not know where the game will be we have priced the trips separately to Maribor and Budapest

MARIBOR AIRPORT

The price for flight/accommodation/transfers x 2 night stay £535.00

BUDAPEST AIRPORT

The price for flight/accommodation/transfer x 2 night stay £565.00

To make things easier as we do not know our destination payment of £500.00 would need to be paid
by Thursday and the balance depending on destination paid on Friday 23rd July.

HibbyDave
20-07-2010, 04:37 PM
Just spoke to ITA and they said that they will be going with the two night trip.........
AT A REDUCED PRICE (depending on where the tie is being played).

Original costs was quoted at £595.

I understand that Budapest (Videoton) will cost £565 and Maribor will cost £535.

Don't shoot the meesenger as I'm simply relaying what I was told less than 5 minutes ago. I also believe an e-mail will be sent to those registrered as confirmation of this.

Kojock
20-07-2010, 04:55 PM
Thats three of us now booked a hotel in Maribor (£25 each) bed and breakfast. About a mile away from the stadium. Can cancel up to two days before arrival without penalty.

That takes the total for our jaunt to £289 per person.

Maybe I could get a job with ITA :greengrin

StevieC
20-07-2010, 05:21 PM
I think some are being a bit unfair on ITA here.

Lets face it, none of us know how much it's costing to charter an aircraft at such short notice .. which is ultimately what dictates the price.

They have tried to put together a package at short notice and of course they have to be careful that it is priced to err on the side of caution.

Of course they aren't in it to simply do us a favour and will need to ensure that a profit is made.

They very quickly came up with a ball park figure (probably based on the charter costs) and have since had the opportunity to properly review prices and managed to knock a few quid off the original costing.

Yes, it probably is on the steep side when compared to securing a budget flight to an adjacent country, but lets not forget that there are some airlines out there happily charging £500-£600 for similar flights without coming in for the same sort of flack.

At the end of they day they are offering an all singing all dancing option .. you either take them up on it or you dont.

Personally, I hope they get the required numbers and .. fingers crossed .. they have the opportunity to offer another package for the next round as well.

Gala Foxes
20-07-2010, 05:28 PM
agree with Stevie C - the only way we will get a big support at the game is if there is charters.

Summer is probably ( no surprise ) toughest time to charter a plane

I have booked and paid ITA - its a personal choice thing

good on them, club havent done anything

hfc1875x
20-07-2010, 05:29 PM
I think some are being a bit unfair on ITA here.

Lets face it, none of us know how much it's costing to charter an aircraft at such short notice .. which is ultimately what dictates the price.

They have tried to put together a package at short notice and of course they have to be careful that it is priced to err on the side of caution.

Of course they aren't in it to simply do us a favour and will need to ensure that a profit is made.

They very quickly came up with a ball park figure (probably based on the charter costs) and have since had the opportunity to properly review prices and managed to knock a few quid off the original costing.

Yes, it probably is on the steep side when compared to securing a budget flight to an adjacent country, but lets not forget that there are some airlines out there happily charging £500-£600 for similar flights without coming in for the same sort of flack.

At the end of they day they are offering an all singing all dancing option .. you either take them up on it or you dont.

Personally, I hope they get the required numbers and .. fingers crossed .. they have the opportunity to offer another package for the next round as well.


Mate its daylight robbery, as previously quoted they will be making a easy 15k-20k profit for a weeks work.

At least Dick Turpin wore a mask, robbing ****ers.

The plane will never get of the ground.

StevieC
20-07-2010, 05:48 PM
Mate its daylight robbery, as previously quoted they will be making a easy 15k-20k profit for a weeks work.

Based on a cigarrette packet calculation .. and they've since knocked £60 per person (potentially more than £10k off your projected profit) for the Maribor option.

And even a £15k profit works out at only around £75 per person. Or, more importantly, less than 30 people that said they would go pulling out at the last minute. Everything goes according to plan then, yes, they may make a handsome profit, but falling short of numbers and unforseen fuel/airport costs and it could spell disaster.

To be honest, if I was wanting to stick my neck out on an £80k venture (with less than a week to organise) I'd be looking to ensure I made a profit, or I wouldn't risk it.

Would you?

Gala Foxes
20-07-2010, 05:57 PM
do some people think that airlines will just give someone a plane speculatively without hard cash up front ?

ITA are putting their neck out and booking a plane

good on them

Kojock
20-07-2010, 05:59 PM
Original email from ITA

The cost of the package for the Europa Cup is £595.00. We have tried our best to get the lowest prices but all charter companies are about the same price and we got the lowest price possible

Second email from ITA

We have managed to get airlines etc. to look at their prices and now we can offer as follows:
As we do not know where the game will be we have priced the trips separately to Maribor and Budapest

MARIBOR AIRPORT
The price for flight/accommodation/transfers x 2 night stay £535.00
BUDAPEST AIRPORT
The price for flight/accommodation/transfer x 2 night stay £565.00

Did they really do their best first time round ?? Why is the Maribor trip now cheaper than the Budapest one ?? Were they going to offer travellers a £30 refund if it was Maribor ??

Sounds to me that they saw a chance to make a fast buck and its backfired spectacularly on them. If I can get a triple room in a 3*hotel in Maribor for £76 inc Breakfast, I can assure you ITA would be getting a far better rate for putting 180 thirsty guests there way.

Total rip off and they deserve all they get.

hfc1875x
20-07-2010, 06:07 PM
do some people think that airlines will just give someone a plane speculatively without hard cash up front ?

ITA are putting their neck out and booking a plane

good on them

Mate wake up ITA are putting there neck out for no-one are you so nieve to think that they would risk loosing money on this deal ?

What ever way you dress it up, its expensive and there making a healthy profit.

Bandits spring to mind.

Gala Foxes
20-07-2010, 06:16 PM
Original email from ITA

The cost of the package for the Europa Cup is £595.00. We have tried our best to get the lowest prices but all charter companies are about the same price and we got the lowest price possible

Second email from ITA

We have managed to get airlines etc. to look at their prices and now we can offer as follows:
As we do not know where the game will be we have priced the trips separately to Maribor and Budapest

MARIBOR AIRPORT
The price for flight/accommodation/transfers x 2 night stay £535.00
BUDAPEST AIRPORT
The price for flight/accommodation/transfer x 2 night stay £565.00

Did they really do their best first time round ?? Why is the Maribor trip now cheaper than the Budapest one ?? Were they going to offer travellers a £30 refund if it was Maribor ??

Sounds to me that they saw a chance to make a fast buck and its backfired spectacularly on them. If I can get a triple room in a 3*hotel in Maribor for £76 inc Breakfast, I can assure you ITA would be getting a far better rate for putting 180 thirsty guests there way.

Total rip off and they deserve all they get.

Maribor is cheaper because you can fly in to Maribor, for Videoton you fly to Budapest & need coach transfers to game - difference I would assume is the cost of the extra bus round trip

Kojock
20-07-2010, 06:19 PM
Maribor is cheaper because you can fly in to Maribor, for Videoton you fly to Budapest & need coach transfers to game - difference I would assume is the cost of the extra bus round trip

So why were both venues the same price originally. :confused:

hfc1875x
20-07-2010, 06:22 PM
Maribor is cheaper because you can fly in to Maribor, for Videoton you fly to Budapest & need coach transfers to game - difference I would assume is the cost of the extra bus round trip

Do you work for ITA :greengrin

Mate they have shot there selves in the foot and made a right mess of the whole situation. If they had priced themselves in they could have filled 2 planes and still made a healthy profit.

dhmf
20-07-2010, 06:46 PM
Im going via zagreb,hotels and accomodation are coming to about £300, booked a hotel in Maribor so lets hope they go through, can cancell 2 days before though so not so bad

StevieC
20-07-2010, 06:47 PM
Bandits spring to mind.

Why the hostility?

If the plane "doesn't get off the ground" then the only ones missing out are the Hibs supporters that are unable/unwilling to do the planes/trains/automobiles option.

hfc1875x
20-07-2010, 06:51 PM
Why the hostility?

If the plane "doesn't get off the ground" then the only ones missing out are the Hibs supporters that are unable/unwilling to do the planes/trains/automobiles option.

Because there trying to make a fast buck of us Hibees, in my book there bandits.

StevieC
20-07-2010, 07:05 PM
Because there trying to make a fast buck of us Hibees, in my book there bandits.

It has to be a fast buck, they've only got 6 days! :wink:

And what about all these Easyjet/Ryanair flights that are going up by the hour? They cant be far off what ITA are asking by now? It's called supply and demand, capitalism at its best.

Not too many complained about the £450 to get to Dnipro when ITA did it 5 years ago. The only difference here is that there's not as much demand so overall cost will be higher, and there's suddenly a plethora of budget flights to compare it against.

Badge
20-07-2010, 07:24 PM
Hot Shot Hamish and DC hibs you have PMs!

ronaldo7
20-07-2010, 07:33 PM
I've got the Videoton route done at a cost of £620 for two at the moment.

Struggling to get the link from Budapest to Maribor. (trains)

Any help would be appreciated.

Gordon Quinn
20-07-2010, 07:41 PM
Is it ok to hire a car in one country, then use it to travel to another? :confused:

Yes. When the Euros were in Austria/Swizerland 10 of us hired two camper vans from Munich and drove them to various venues at the tourament. We even crashed one, going pretty slow but it still made a real mess. No injuries thankfully. The driver at the time shall remain un-named
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Christopher Black :agree:

Gordon Quinn
20-07-2010, 07:46 PM
It has to be a fast buck, they've only got 6 days! :wink:

And what about all these Easyjet/Ryanair flights that are going up by the hour? They cant be far off what ITA are asking by now? It's called supply and demand, capitalism at its best.

Not too many complained about the £450 to get to Dnipro when ITA did it 5 years ago. The only difference here is that there's not as much demand so overall cost will be higher, and there's suddenly a plethora of budget flights to compare it against.

You're right. I had Easyjet/Ryanair to Graz through Stanstead yesterday for £360 each, taxes included. This evening they are £415 so plumped for the charter as the pirces have come down a bit.
MARIBOR AIRPORT
The price for flight/accommodation/transfers x 2 night stay £535.00

BUDAPEST AIRPORT
The price for flight/accommodation/transfer x 2 night stay £565.00

A bit pricey but more time in the destination :thumbsup:

BS44
20-07-2010, 07:59 PM
I've got the Videoton route done at a cost of £620 for two at the moment.

Struggling to get the link from Budapest to Maribor. (trains)

Any help would be appreciated.

Budapest to Vienna

Vienna to Maribor 58 Euros for a Online International ticket

ronaldo7
20-07-2010, 08:22 PM
Budapest to Vienna

Vienna to Maribor 58 Euros for a Online International ticket

Thanks mate:thumbsup:

PaulSmith
20-07-2010, 08:24 PM
Because there trying to make a fast buck of us Hibees, in my book there bandits.

Really? They've given many Hibs fans the CHOICE to fly direct to the game and not worry about anything other than getting the tickets for the game. Many will be grateful for having this option and if it wasn't for ITA then there would've been hardly any at Dnipro and it now looks as though they will again take a charter to another Hibs euro away game.

It is pricey but at short notice and with the collapse of several airlines that they could've used to compare prices how can you possibly comment if it's a rip off price or not without knowing the full facts?

hfc1875x
20-07-2010, 08:26 PM
Really? They've given many Hibs fans the CHOICE to fly direct to the game and not worry about anything other than getting the tickets for the game. Many will be grateful for having this option and if it wasn't for ITA then there would've been hardly any at Dnipro and it now looks as though they will again take a charter to another Hibs euro away game.

It is pricey but at short notice and with the collapse of several airlines that they could've used to compare prices how can you possibly comment if it's a rip off price or not without knowing the full facts?

Well sign up mate bash on , **** paying 500 odd sheckles.

BS44
20-07-2010, 08:30 PM
Thanks mate:thumbsup:

I should have said the 58 Euro tickets are for certain trains only.

https://ticket.oebb.at/bin/frame_ticket.pl?ticket=jticket.pl&LANG=EN

Gala Foxes
20-07-2010, 08:31 PM
Can't believe some of the sniping about the charter - at the end of the day it is down to personal choice, if you want to go under your own steam and save money do it.

If people want to do the charter fine

Main thing is that one way or another we have a big support away in Europe

I would add again - the Club have to date contributed "Hee-Haw" for the supporters to date

CropleyWasGod
20-07-2010, 08:34 PM
I would add again - the Club have to date contributed "Hee-Haw" for the supporters to date

I suspect that the Club, in their normal way of doing things, will announce something when there is something to announce. For example, when they know where we're going.

Gala Foxes
20-07-2010, 08:37 PM
I suspect that the Club, in their normal way of doing things, will announce something when there is something to announce. For example, when they know where we're going.

fair point mate

Hibbyradge
20-07-2010, 09:01 PM
I paid £400 to go to Videoton on the team plane in 1988.

As expensive as it is, £535 for a similar trip 22 years later doesn't seem too bad.

Given that it's door to door, the convenience must be worth a premium.

Traipsing through several different countries, on trains, planes and automobiles, just isn't worth the hassle to me. The harsh reality of driving there hit me earlier today, thank goodness.

Fantastically well done to the guys for organising the bus, but I'm far too fond of my home comforts for 5 day bus trip, which, after adding accommodation etc, will likely cost in excess of £300, plus food and bevvy. It will be a never forgotten adventure though.

Wednesday to Friday is enough for me. I'm golfing on the Saturday anyway!

TQM will understand. :wink:

Craig_in_Prague
20-07-2010, 09:06 PM
I assume those affording the 600 quid 2 day trip have bought a ST and also will be for next year.

1 match = pretty much 2 season tickets!

HOWEVER people are travelling and WHATEVER they pay, well done for making the effort to see the Hibees in Europe!!! :agree:

I can't go coz I just had 2 weeks in Spain and have Scotland trip to Lithuania coming up soon, but fingers crossed we win and get into the next round and will see who and when we have next.

GGTTH

Hibby70
20-07-2010, 09:13 PM
Spoke to a guy who follows ManU a lot abroad and they were told that the cost of a plane charter is somewhere in the region of £8 - 10K per hour.

Some quick back of the fagpacket calcs has the ITA flight coming in around £380 - £440. Chuck in the buses, hotel costs and admin fees and I dont think their final cost of £535 looks too bad at all.

Good luck to those going by ryanair/easyjet etc but would be interesting to see the final costs for someone doing trains/planes and automobiles to get to the same place in what could be twice the time or more (of course may have better fun doing so).

Regardless of how everyone gets there I'm sure it will be a hoot.

Andy74
20-07-2010, 09:31 PM
My 2 seats in the car are gone! Cheers.

The Tubs
20-07-2010, 09:37 PM
I should have said the 58 Euro tickets are for certain trains only.

https://ticket.oebb.at/bin/frame_ticket.pl?ticket=jticket.pl&LANG=EN


Just having a look at those prices and it looks like you get bevy with a 1st class ticket for an extra €10. Ya beauty!

BS44
20-07-2010, 09:43 PM
Just having a look at those prices and it looks like you get bevy with a 1st class ticket for an extra €10. Ya beauty!

I'll be in 2nd class with my 10 Euros worth of cheap Austrian lager. :wink:

down-the-slope
20-07-2010, 09:51 PM
I know i'm repeating myself...but UEFA need to have a word with themselves..its chuffing ridiculous that so many teams have no idea where they are playing in 9 days time...the draw is huge and the pressure on clubs and FANS (yes those that without whom the game does not exist :rolleyes:) to make last minute arrangements to out of the way places.

With more notice and not in main holiday season thean all the possible options for getting there would be cheaper..whether personal euro hopping or short trip organised.

Once its settled the personally arranged options will rocket as low cost airlines uprate prices.

I still expect the club will have seats on its charter once they know where we are going.....

PS... some of those criticising the charter option don't seem to realise that every additional day away from work is an additional cost for a number that needs to be factored in

BS44
20-07-2010, 09:54 PM
Spoke to a guy who follows ManU a lot abroad and they were told that the cost of a plane charter is somewhere in the region of £8 - 10K per hour.

Some quick back of the fagpacket calcs has the ITA flight coming in around £380 - £440. Chuck in the buses, hotel costs and admin fees and I dont think their final cost of £535 looks too bad at all.

Good luck to those going by ryanair/easyjet etc but would be interesting to see the final costs for someone doing trains/planes and automobiles to get to the same place in what could be twice the time or more (of course may have better fun doing so).

Regardless of how everyone gets there I'm sure it will be a hoot.

I'm round about £470 for 3 days. 2 nights in Bratislava, 1 night wherever, plus all rail travel.

ITA doesn't seem too bad a price.

Dashing Bob S
20-07-2010, 10:34 PM
I'm round about £470 for 3 days. 2 nights in Bratislava, 1 night wherever, plus all rail travel.

ITA doesn't seem too bad a price.

I might - just might - have some space in the caravan. (See 'Accomodation in Marabor/Budapest' thread.)

StevieC
20-07-2010, 10:39 PM
I'm round about £470 for 3 days. 2 nights in Bratislava, 1 night wherever, plus all rail travel.

ITA doesn't seem too bad a price.

I'm probably going to be about the £320 mark all in (thanks to getting lucky with decent flight costs), with a night in Budapest and a night wherever the game is. A bit of a saving but it will involve around 32 hours travelling time (and sitting around airports much longer than is comfortable) instead of a simple 3 hour flight straight there. I can easily see how the additional cost for the charter would be worth paying to avoid the hassles.

hibsboy90
20-07-2010, 10:43 PM
I know i'm repeating myself...but UEFA need to have a word with themselves..its chuffing ridiculous that so many teams have no idea where they are playing in 9 days time...the draw is huge and the pressure on clubs and FANS (yes those that without whom the game does not exist :rolleyes:) to make last minute arrangements to out of the way places.

With more notice and not in main holiday season thean all the possible options for getting there would be cheaper..whether personal euro hopping or short trip organised.

Once its settled the personally arranged options will rocket as low cost airlines uprate prices.

I still expect the club will have seats on its charter once they know where we are going.....

PS... some of those criticising the charter option don't seem to realise that every additional day away from work is an additional cost for a number that needs to be factored in

Should this stage of the competition be more regionalised?...

james62
21-07-2010, 06:33 AM
Should this stage of the competition be more regionalised?...

It used to be but even then you could still end up going to one of the Baltic countries or Iceland which isn't any cheaper or easier to get to than hungary or slovenia at short notice.

Antifa Hibs
21-07-2010, 09:15 AM
I know i'm repeating myself...but UEFA need to have a word with themselves..its chuffing ridiculous that so many teams have no idea where they are playing in 9 days time...the draw is huge and the pressure on clubs and FANS (yes those that without whom the game does not exist :rolleyes:) to make last minute arrangements to out of the way places.

With more notice and not in main holiday season thean all the possible options for getting there would be cheaper..whether personal euro hopping or short trip organised.

Once its settled the personally arranged options will rocket as low cost airlines uprate prices.

I still expect the club will have seats on its charter once they know where we are going.....

PS... some of those criticising the charter option don't seem to realise that every additional day away from work is an additional cost for a number that needs to be factored in

Let's face it, Uefa don't give a flying **** about the supporters. This is the same organisation that made 60,000 supporters fly from England to Moscow for a football match, the same organisation that gave supporters around 2 weeks notice, despite Visa applications taking anything upto 4 weeks! When it comes to supporters uefa couldn't care one bit m8.

hibees707070
21-07-2010, 11:41 AM
anyone else going to munich and then on from there, give me a shout. 3 of us booked for that and thinking about getting the train but if there are enough of us could hire a car/minibus. Works out cheaper and quicker. Flights were £160 return so just train and hotel costs on top of that.

HUTCHYHIBBY
21-07-2010, 01:35 PM
Thats our travel sorted, just digs to go now.

26/7 0900 £54 train to London
Stansted Express £18.80
1535 – 1840 flight to Ljubljana
31/7 1910 – 2025 flight to Stansted £205 return
2155 – 2310 flight to Edinburgh £48.99

An interesting train journey if Videoton get through, but, its all part of the fun!

I wonder if I'll be ready for Belinda on the Sunday?!!

Hibernia Na Eir
21-07-2010, 02:03 PM
Let's face it, Uefa don't give a flying **** about the supporters.


aye.

remember Athens 2001???

Hermit Crab
21-07-2010, 05:05 PM
Thats it all booked. Put 500 down on the charter today,rest friday depending who we get. I admit its a wee bit steep but ***** the hassle of hanging around airports and stations for connections, and if 1 runs late you could be screwed! Max 565 and thats for for direct flights a nice hotel and grub in the morning all i need now is a ticket for the game! :greengrin :thumbsup:

Jamesie
21-07-2010, 05:19 PM
Is it ok to hire a car in one country, then use it to travel to another? :confused:

I know people who've done it between Austria and Slovenia in the past with no problems...

Jamesie
21-07-2010, 05:21 PM
I am now seriously considering driving.

Unfortunately I now have to attend a funeral in York on the Tuesday, but should be away by 2pm. About 5 hours to Dover from there, and I can spend the night in Brugge to get an early start at around 6/7am.

From Brugge it's a 13 hour drive to Székesfehérvár and an 11 and a half hour drive to Maribor.

Quite a task to drive on my own the whole day to be there on the Wednesday night, so I figure if I stay in possibly Salzburg if we go to Maribor then it's not too bad a drive for the final leg the next day, and probably Linz if it's Székesfehérvár.

Scraping the barrel for ways to get there now but it looks viable on paper and I can leave it til the Monday to decide. Another positive is that I get to see a wee bit of Europe's roads, drive on an Autobahn and have a car when I'm over there. Negatives are having to get hotels in Belgium and Austria and driving all day for two days!

Don't want to be a stiffener mate but I would have a look into the insurance position here quite urgently, given your age. You might be toiling for European insurance.

villager
21-07-2010, 05:42 PM
Thats it all booked. Put 500 down on the charter today,rest friday depending who we get. I admit its a wee bit steep but ***** the hassle of hanging around airports and stations for connections, and if 1 runs late you could be screwed! Max 565 and thats for for direct flights a nice hotel and grub in the morning all i need now is a ticket for the game! :greengrin :thumbsup:

same here, paid up today, i'm keen to get back for the cafe graffitti re-union night on friday at the picture house.

cant wait for both.:thumbsup:

Calvin
21-07-2010, 06:06 PM
Don't want to be a stiffener mate but I would have a look into the insurance position here quite urgently, given your age. You might be toiling for European insurance.

I have done and there is no issue up to 90 days.

squire
21-07-2010, 07:15 PM
anyone else going to munich and then on from there, give me a shout. 3 of us booked for that and thinking about getting the train but if there are enough of us could hire a car/minibus. Works out cheaper and quicker. Flights were £160 return so just train and hotel costs on top of that.

Yeah mate thats the plan i have pencilled in right now but nothing is booked yet. There are 4 of us and would be up for sharing the transport. I will know this time tomorrow if we are flying to Munich or not so I will be in touch. Cheers

Gorebridge Hibb
21-07-2010, 08:44 PM
Yeah mate thats the plan i have pencilled in right now but nothing is booked yet. There are 4 of us and would be up for sharing the transport. I will know this time tomorrow if we are flying to Munich or not so I will be in touch. Cheers


my dad and i are going from edi to munich with easyjet on friday at 17:40, we are thinkig about the overnight train to maribor via salzburg.

down-the-slope
21-07-2010, 08:46 PM
my dad and i are going from edi to munich with easyjet on friday at 17:40, we are thinkig about the overnight train to maribor via salzburg.


your either going to be very early or a wee bit late...:rolleyes:

Gorebridge Hibb
21-07-2010, 08:54 PM
your either going to be very early or a wee bit late...:rolleyes:

Train leaves Munich at 23:40 0n Wednesday night and gets in to Maribor at 09:33 on Thursday morning. Check into the hotel then plenty of time to soak up the atmosphere before the kick off at 20:30. If Videoton get through then there is a train from Munich to Budapest leaving at 23:40 on Wednesday night arriving at 08:49 in the morning. 69 euros in a sleeper compartment for the Munich to Budapest journey and I dont know the cost of the Munich to maribor overnight but it will be less than 100 euros.

Hibbyradge
21-07-2010, 09:05 PM
Thats our travel sorted, just digs to go now.

26/7 0900 £54 train to London
Stansted Express £18.80
1535 – 1840 flight to Ljubljana
31/7 1910 – 2025 flight to Stansted £205 return
2155 – 2310 flight to Edinburgh £48.99

An interesting train journey if Videoton get through, but, its all part of the fun!

I wonder if I'll be ready for Belinda on the Sunday?!!

Wow.

That's a 6 day trip which is costing over £320 already and you've got 5 nights accommodation, food and drink to pay for.

The Charter prices are getting better and better everytime I read this thread! :wink:

Gorebridge Hibb
21-07-2010, 09:09 PM
Wow.

That's a 6 day trip which is costing over £320 already and you've got 5 nights accommodation, food and drink to pay for.

The Charter prices are getting better and better everytime I read this thread! :wink:

still no certainty that the charter is a goer!!!!!

Hibbyradge
21-07-2010, 09:13 PM
still no certainty that the charter is a goer!!!!!

In which case I definitely won't be going.

I want to enjoy myself, not wander around like a zombie cos I'm too tired from all the travelling.

I'm 86 you know.

Bonnyrigg H.F.C
21-07-2010, 09:15 PM
By my count that is a group of 3 (my group) a possible 4 and a possible 2 all goin to munich. If there is a willing driver out of those, couldd a mini bus hire from as previously posted be a shout? Would be a cheaper option and if we were just going to maribor its only a 4 - 5 hour drive. Just a thought.

hibees707070
21-07-2010, 09:16 PM
Do you no mean Wednesday mate? We are the 1st flight to Munich Wednesday morning. Gives us plenty time to get where we need to go!

squire
21-07-2010, 09:27 PM
Train leaves Munich at 23:40 0n Wednesday night and gets in to Maribor at 09:33 on Thursday morning. Check into the hotel then plenty of time to soak up the atmosphere before the kick off at 20:30. If Videoton get through then there is a train from Munich to Budapest leaving at 23:40 on Wednesday night arriving at 08:49 in the morning. 69 euros in a sleeper compartment for the Munich to Budapest journey and I dont know the cost of the Munich to maribor overnight but it will be less than 100 euros.

Where did you find the details about the trains from Munich? The return journey is priced up was £200 :grr: but a 5 day Interrail pass is only £125 for people under 25 i think so that would be a good option.

Otherwise i think my party of 4 will hire a car from Munich and drive to Maribor and as people have mentioned sharing a minibus for the journey may be a shout. But we havent booked our flights yet!

DC_Hibs
21-07-2010, 09:35 PM
Where did you find the details about the trains from Munich? The return journey is priced up was £200 :grr: but a 5 day Interrail pass is only £125 for people under 25 i think so that would be a good option.

Otherwise i think my party of 4 will hire a car from Munich and drive to Maribor and as people have mentioned sharing a minibus for the journey may be a shout. But we havent booked our flights yet!

What flights are you looking at Easyjet?
Looks like theres only 2 seats available to fly back on the Friday night and the Saturday will likely be full soon as well.

There might be a scramble on remaining flights this time tomorrow when opponents are known.

squire
21-07-2010, 09:39 PM
What flights are you looking at Easyjet?
Looks like theres only 2 seats available to fly back on the Friday night and the Saturday will likely be full soon as well.

There might be a scramble on remaining flights this time tomorrow when opponents are known.

Outward flight on Wednesday and returning Sunday because we are going to spend the weekend in Munich. I guess that Wednesday flight is gonna fill up soon?

DC_Hibs
21-07-2010, 09:53 PM
Outward flight on Wednesday and returning Sunday because we are going to spend the weekend in Munich. I guess that Wednesday flight is gonna fill up soon?

Wednesday looked ok for availability - just keep increasing the passenger numbers till it says no flight available.

if confirmed for Maribor the following is not ideal but cheap option:

edinburgh to zadar in croatia with ryanair is about 26quid on the wednesday.
It looks about 200km from maribor (if thats who we play) and arrives there around 7.30pm.
Would need to check connections for getting to maribor but will be easy to get to zagreb then onto maribor from there. the only return flight is the saturday which makes it about 170return.

I think the only options tomorrow night when draw is made will be the charter or to pay about 400 quid for indirect flights from edinburgh to budapest, graz , zagreb or ljubljana.......or the Edin/Livi bus!

HUTCHYHIBBY
21-07-2010, 09:56 PM
Hibbyradge, I see your winking smiley, I'm in nae rush to get there and back, its all part of the fun! I'm actually quite fancying a Euro train adventure to the Videoton game if we have to!

Baldy Foghorn
22-07-2010, 05:44 AM
still no certainty that the charter is a goer!!!!!

Stuart Thimas has confirmed that the charter will definitely go.... Where are you getting your info from?

This thread has so much rubbish on it..... Price is alright, you pay a slightly higher premium for saving time and effort, leaving directly from Edinburgh......

No one is being forced to go, no guns to heads, so why the big commotion?:confused:

CentreLine
22-07-2010, 08:26 AM
still no certainty that the charter is a goer!!!!!

One charter flight is going for sure and personally I would urge people that want to fly to make sure they are confirmed on it.

As I understand it additional 'planes, although considered, would only have happened if people fully committed in sufficient numbers. By the time people have looked at all of the interesting and diverse options, then realised the true cost of getting to an Eastern European country, before coming back to consider the charter option.....................Well, I just think a lot of people are going to be disappointed. There has got to be a cut-off point for organising these things.

I admire everyone's efforts to go by trains, bicycles, and boats but personally I cannot see past the charter.

GGTTH :notworthy:

Hibbyradge
22-07-2010, 08:57 AM
Hibbyradge, I see your winking smiley, I'm in nae rush to get there and back, its all part of the fun! I'm actually quite fancying a Euro train adventure to the Videoton game if we have to!

In whch case, you'll have a ball! :thumbsup:

Kojock
22-07-2010, 09:50 AM
No one is being forced to go, no guns to heads, so why the big commotion?:confused:

The big commotion is ITA were trying to rip the p1sh out of us with their original prices. I personally still think the amended price is still too expensive for what is on offer.

For £289 pp heres how Ive done it between three of us.

Edin to Munich leaving Wed returning Fri - Easyjet.com flights were £160
1 night munich, 4* Best Western ERB. Booked through Hotels.com - £68 for triple room (breakfast not inc)
2 days Car hire through Arguscarhire.com - £120
Two tanks of fuel maiximum for the entire journey and have budgeted for £120
Drive down to Maribor / Hungary Thursday morning. (Between 4 and 6 hours depending on destination)
1 night Maribor 3* Hotel Tabor. Booked through Hotels.com - £76 B&B for triple room (2 day cancellation Policy)
Drive back to Munich at our leisure on the Friday for evening flight back to Edinburgh.

People can say all they want about delayed flights etc. We can all speculate about what MIGHT happen like the charter flight develops an irrepairable fault on the runway at Edinburgh.

Or like the time coming back from Athens on the charter when a drunken Hibby stole the money off the drinks trolley then assaulted the cabin steward, the plane was going to divert to Manchester and everyone was going to get kicked off there.

Kojock
22-07-2010, 10:00 AM
Just spoke to ITA and because so many people did not confirm they are having to think of a plan B which will involve a charter to Munich then luxury coach to either Slovenia or Hungary. It will be a Tuesday pm and Wednesday am departure from Edinburgh with the Tuesday people having a night in Munich and then everyone departing Munich sometime on Wednesday. Prices still aboutthe same I presume. I looked at doing this independently yesterday and when you add up plane fares, trains, hotels etc then you are pushing up to the ITA cost anyway. For peace of mind my Dad and i are going on the ITA trip as you just need a slight delay or a missed connection and you are stuffed.

Hmmmm So is it still worth it :confused:

blackpoolhibs
22-07-2010, 10:59 AM
For me personally, its way too expensive. If i can get it for £350, perhaps i'm wrong, but i'd have thought someone who does this for a living could match that if not better it.:confused: The £200 and odd difference is imho to much. I have a 3 or 4 hour journey either way from blackpool to edinburgh, and would rather fly from Manchester to somewhere near, and have the 3 or 4 hour drive that end, plus save the £200.

HUTCHYHIBBY
22-07-2010, 11:18 AM
In whch case, you'll have a ball! :thumbsup:

Certainly will be if the homemade Dnipro trip is anything to go by! :agree:

On a different note, this thread is getting a wee bit silly, its going to end up with a big square go between the Charter Mob & the Planes, Trains & Automobiles Mob in the middle of Maribor, as long as we all get there and back and enjoy ourselves does it really matter how you get there? :confused:

CapitalGreen
22-07-2010, 11:45 AM
Wednesday looked ok for availability - just keep increasing the passenger numbers till it says no flight available.

if confirmed for Maribor the following is not ideal but cheap option:

edinburgh to zadar in croatia with ryanair is about 26quid on the wednesday.
It looks about 200km from maribor (if thats who we play) and arrives there around 7.30pm.
Would need to check connections for getting to maribor but will be easy to get to zagreb then onto maribor from there. the only return flight is the saturday which makes it about 170return.

I think the only options tomorrow night when draw is made will be the charter or to pay about 400 quid for indirect flights from edinburgh to budapest, graz , zagreb or ljubljana.......or the Edin/Livi bus!

My friend and I booked these flights to Zadar on Friday for £80 return (£90 if you include CC Ryanair Credit Card charges).

We get in to Zadar at 7.40pm on Wednesday and are planning on taking a coach (much faster than the train) to Zagreb at 1am getting us there for 5am.

From Zagreb we will take a train to Maribor/Videoton at 7am which which will arrive about 9.30am/4.30pm depending on who we are playing.

The coach is only £20 return and the train is not much more. So in all travel is only costing around £130-£150. We are staying 1 night at the venue of the game, travelling back to Zadar on the Friday and then spending a night there before our flight home at noon on the Saturday.

Luna Landing
22-07-2010, 11:52 AM
Sounds like theres a fair crowd going to be at the game by hook or by crook. Anyone know anything about how we get our hands on tickets ?

CropleyWasGod
22-07-2010, 11:56 AM
Sounds like theres a fair crowd going to be at the game by hook or by crook. Anyone know anything about how we get our hands on tickets ?

1. we wait until we know who we're playing. :greengrin

green with envy
22-07-2010, 12:01 PM
Spoke to a guy who follows ManU a lot abroad and they were told that the cost of a plane charter is somewhere in the region of £8 - 10K per hour.

Some quick back of the fagpacket calcs has the ITA flight coming in around £380 - £440. Chuck in the buses, hotel costs and admin fees and I dont think their final cost of £535 looks too bad at all.

Good luck to those going by ryanair/easyjet etc but would be interesting to see the final costs for someone doing trains/planes and automobiles to get to the same place in what could be twice the time or more (of course may have better fun doing so).

Regardless of how everyone gets there I'm sure it will be a hoot.

My itinerary is, Edinburgh to Bratislava at £160.00 rtn and 4 nights B&B at £18.00 pp is looking like a snip. (still to book our hotel for the game) will do that tonight.

Also, just confirmed is our 7 seater car hire for 200 euros split between 6 with petrol will work out something in the region of £250.00.

The total package for a 5 night holiday should work out at around £300.00 pp.

Frazerbob
22-07-2010, 12:25 PM
Certainly will be if the homemade Dnipro trip is anything to go by! :agree:

On a different note, this thread is getting a wee bit silly, its going to end up with a big square go between the Charter Mob & the Planes, Trains & Automobiles Mob in the middle of Maribor, as long as we all get there and back and enjoy ourselves does it really matter how you get there? :confused:

Then those of us in the "can't get time off work and are jelous as hell" mob will be waiting on all of you when you get back for the home leg! :grr:

Antifa Hibs
22-07-2010, 12:27 PM
Certainly will be if the homemade Dnipro trip is anything to go by! :agree:

On a different note, this thread is getting a wee bit silly, its going to end up with a big square go between the Charter Mob & the Planes, Trains & Automobiles Mob in the middle of Maribor, as long as we all get there and back and enjoy ourselves does it really matter how you get there? :confused:

Only one outcome there. The charter mob sound like posh pansies with to much money compared to us hardened manly planes trains and automobiles crew :greengrin

In all seriousness, by the sounds of things we should have a cracking wee crowd there.

Regardless of how we are getting to Maribor/Videton, have a *** blast and be safe :thumbsup:

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 12:55 PM
Just spoke to ITA and because so many people did not confirm they are having to think of a plan B which will involve a charter to Munich then luxury coach to either Slovenia or Hungary. It will be a Tuesday pm and Wednesday am departure from Edinburgh with the Tuesday people having a night in Munich and then everyone departing Munich sometime on Wednesday. Prices still aboutthe same I presume. I looked at doing this independently yesterday and when you add up plane fares, trains, hotels etc then you are pushing up to the ITA cost anyway. For peace of mind my Dad and i are going on the ITA trip as you just need a slight delay or a missed connection and you are stuffed.

Hmmmm So is it still worth it :confused:

So are you saying the ITA charter staying 2 nights and then home is caped?

Gorebridge Hibb
22-07-2010, 01:04 PM
So are you saying the ITA charter staying 2 nights and then home is caped?


They need people to confirm they are definitely going and then they can confirm everythig.

Still going with ITA as all the Ryanair / Easyjet prices keep going up. my Dad is 70 and it is a bit much to ask him to travel overnight by bus or train. He's in Holland just now watching Hibs with my Mum.

Luna Landing
22-07-2010, 01:07 PM
Only one outcome there. The charter mob sound like posh pansies with to much money compared to us hardened manly planes trains and automobiles crew :greengrin

In all seriousness, by the sounds of things we should have a cracking wee crowd there.

Regardless of how we are getting to Maribor/Videton, have a *** blast and be safe :thumbsup:

Come and have a go if you're hard enough :greengrin

seriously should be a great trip looking forward to it already wherever we end up . Looking forward to meeting lots of Hibess and having a few wee refreshments

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 01:14 PM
They need people to confirm they are definitely going and then they can confirm everythig.

Still going with ITA as all the Ryanair / Easyjet prices keep going up. my Dad is 70 and it is a bit much to ask him to travel overnight by bus or train. He's in Holland just now watching Hibs with my Mum.


Ok as i have posted on another thread the lack of info coming from the company is poor. People need to get organised and get time off and things, if it turns out that its a flight to munich and a coach job then im not sure if im going to go because thats not worth up to 565 notes.

StevieC
22-07-2010, 01:44 PM
Ok as i have posted on another thread the lack of info coming from the company is poor.

It's possibly a bit of a catch 22 at the moment with people wanting more information before they book and ITA needing confirmed bookings to finalise costs and details.

To be fair to ITA it must be a nightmare for them at the moment trying to put together a trip when they dont even know the destination (or specific numbers travelling).

And it's obvious (from other threads :wink:) that there are people hanging off paying until the last minute which, from ITA's point of view, makes it very difficult to know what is affordable to allow them to finalise the details.

hfc1875x
22-07-2010, 02:02 PM
It's possibly a bit of a catch 22 at the moment with people wanting more information before they book and ITA needing confirmed bookings to finalise costs and details.

To be fair to ITA it must be a nightmare for them at the moment trying to put together a trip when they dont even know the destination (or specific numbers travelling).

And it's obvious (from other threads :wink:) that there are people hanging off paying until the last minute which, from ITA's point of view, makes it very difficult to know what is affordable to allow them to finalise the details.

ITA are a shambles mate, there worse than Hibs TV :greengrin Munich now, luxury coaches, No departure times, Cash up front. :grr: Lack of response to emails etc.

It must be awfy hard for them, poor souls that they are.

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 02:07 PM
It's possibly a bit of a catch 22 at the moment with people wanting more information before they book and ITA needing confirmed bookings to finalise costs and details.

To be fair to ITA it must be a nightmare for them at the moment trying to put together a trip when they dont even know the destination (or specific numbers travelling).

And it's obvious (from other threads :wink:) that there are people hanging off paying until the last minute which, from ITA's point of view, makes it very difficult to know what is affordable to allow them to finalise the details.


I realise it must be very hard to set this up with very little notice and i have to say it was a goer with me even with the original price (£595) People that hold back on making adecision wether to go with this option may screw it for the rest of us because if they are going to cancel this charter then they would have to give us plenty time to try and organise other means of travel and i dont want to miss out on this one. :confused:

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 02:09 PM
ITA are a shambles mate, there worse than Hibs TV :greengrin Munich now, luxury coaches, No departure times, Cash up front. :grr: Lack of response to emails etc.

It must be awfy hard for them, poor souls that they are.


Is this munich pish going ahead? It better not as that is not what i paid for!:grr:

Hibee_Craig7062
22-07-2010, 02:44 PM
Is this munich pish going ahead? It better not as that is not what i paid for!:grr:


Rooney id call them up and get confirmation cos if it is id be chasing them for an immediate refund as you paid your money in good faith based on the info ITA provided.

I concede it cant be easy for them but they cannot go accepting peoples money and then completely change the iteniary. :bitchy:

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 03:06 PM
Rooney id call them up and get confirmation cos if it is id be chasing them for an immediate refund as you paid your money in good faith based on the info ITA provided.

I concede it cant be easy for them but they cannot go accepting peoples money and then completely change the iteniary. :bitchy:

I have emailed them mate but i am still awaiting a response. They cant change it just like that without offering some sort of compensation. If they go with the Munich plan then the cost would drop massivley!

Dalkeith
22-07-2010, 04:50 PM
just got this email from ita

IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE BOOKED

If you think you have a seat on the charter and have not been in touch to pay or give credit card details you are not booked.

The charter is still available but unless we get sufficient numbers to go it will be cancelled on Friday morning first thing. If we get sufficient numbers by 8am Friday 23rd July 2010 we will continue but otherwise the trip is not viable.

WE DID ASK IF YOU WANTED THIS CHARTER AND 350 PEOPLE ARE STILL CURRENTLY REGISTERED BUT NOT BOOKED.

If you wish to book we require the following details name, address credit card name and details

If you feel disappointed imagine how we feel after working on this for the past six days. We also have people who have committed and will be extremely disappointed if we have to cancel.

down-the-slope
22-07-2010, 04:57 PM
just got this

IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE BOOKED

If you think you have a seat on the charter and have not been in touch to pay or give credit card details you are not booked.

The charter is still available but unless we get sufficient numbers to go it will be cancelled on Friday morning first thing. If we get sufficient numbers by 8am Friday 23rd July 2010 we will continue but otherwise the trip is not viable.

WE DID ASK IF YOU WANTED THIS CHARTER AND 350 PEOPLE ARE STILL CURRENTLY REGISTERED BUT NOT BOOKED.

If you wish to book we require the following details name, address credit card name and details

If you feel disappointed imagine how we feel after working on this for the past six days. We also have people who have committed and will be extremely disappointed if we have to cancel.

thank god for bus

Blimey.....that sounds like its all a bit shakey...guess the numbers registering prior to costs being announced has been the issue.

It also means that these guys are not going to risk no income for all their work if we get through this round :rolleyes:

not great all round...and the options are shortening all the time...and will all but disappear, without being extortionate / taking days some don't have, once tonights tie is played

Dalkeith
22-07-2010, 05:00 PM
Blimey.....that sounds like its all a bit shakey...guess the numbers registering prior to costs being announced has been the issue.

It also means that these guys are not going to risk no income for all their work if we get through this round :rolleyes:

not great all round...and the options are shortening all the time...and will all but disappear, without being extortionate / taking days some don't have, once tonights tie is played


why wait until 18:00 today to put this out could have been out earlier

down-the-slope
22-07-2010, 05:18 PM
why wait until 18:00 today to put this out could have been out earlier

Yup 24 hours would have been much better..

I still come back to UEFA being ultimately resposibile for the hassle that is being played out and they should be seen as the villians....not the club / ita / locost airlines etc.....

Shambles that that needs addresssing for future years..we should be lobbying the club to represent the frustrations of fans via SPL to UEFA....

Kojock
22-07-2010, 05:33 PM
just got this email from ita


WE DID ASK IF YOU WANTED THIS CHARTER AND 350 PEOPLE ARE STILL CURRENTLY REGISTERED BUT NOT BOOKED.

If you feel disappointed imagine how we feel after working on this for the past six days. We also have people who have committed and will be extremely disappointed if we have to cancel.

I was one who registered but once they announced the price there is no way I was going to be held to ransom. I took the initiative and booked independently at half the cost. Please dont try and turn this around and blame the people for failing to take up the offer, you have scored a massive own goal here and need to look at your own pricing policy. 350 people cannot be wrong.

The people I do feel sorry for are the people who have already committed and due to ITA overpricing the trip they are not going to be able to get anything booked up at this late stage.

ITA you should hang your heads in shame, can you really look at yourselves in the mirror and tell us you got the best deal possible for the fans.

I dont care if for future games ITA dont want to get involved with Hibs fans. There are numerous other companies out there who would gladly take the business.

Dalkeith
22-07-2010, 05:37 PM
I was one who registered but once they announced the price there is no way I was going to be held to ransom. I took the initiative and booked independently at half the cost. Please dont try and turn this around and blame the people for failing to take up the offer, you have scored a massive own goal here and need to look at your own pricing policy. 350 people cannot be wrong.

The people I do feel sorry for are the people who have already committed and due to ITA overpricing the trip they are not going to be able to get anything booked up at this late stage.

ITA you should hang your heads in shame, can you really look at yourselves in the mirror and tell us you got the best deal possible for the fans.

I dont care if for future games ITA dont want to get involved with Hibs fans. There are numerous other companies out there who would gladly take the business.

same here as soon as price came out i was out.

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 05:50 PM
same here as soon as price came out i was out.


As one of the people who have booked up and put down cash for this trip im now fearing that im not going to get there now as the lack of numbers may cost me my trip after so much original interest. Surely people knew that it wasnt going to be dirt cheap and would be dearer than going independently using budget airlines and trains and other modes of transport. Im not blaming the people who havnt booked up as alot of people have other commitments ie bills kids other holidays but it was never going to be cheap. I just hope if it is caped i can find another way to get over there in the timescale we have left :confused:

hfc1875x
22-07-2010, 05:53 PM
just got this email from ita

IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE BOOKED

If you think you have a seat on the charter and have not been in touch to pay or give credit card details you are not booked.

The charter is still available but unless we get sufficient numbers to go it will be cancelled on Friday morning first thing. If we get sufficient numbers by 8am Friday 23rd July 2010 we will continue but otherwise the trip is not viable.

WE DID ASK IF YOU WANTED THIS CHARTER AND 350 PEOPLE ARE STILL CURRENTLY REGISTERED BUT NOT BOOKED.

If you wish to book we require the following details name, address credit card name and details

If you feel disappointed imagine how we feel after working on this for the past six days. We also have people who have committed and will be extremely disappointed if we have to cancel.

You cant make this **** up can you :bitchy: This is unbeleivible. They still want the cash without giving us a itinerary etc.

:greengrin Imagine how we feel after working on this for the past six days :greengrin

:bye:

hfc1875x
22-07-2010, 05:56 PM
As one of the people who have booked up and put down cash for this trip im now fearing that im not going to get there now as the lack of numbers may cost me my trip after so much original interest. Surely people knew that it wasnt going to be dirt cheap and would be dearer than going independently using budget airlines and trains and other modes of transport. Im not blaming the people who havnt booked up as alot of people have other commitments ie bills kids other holidays but it was never going to be cheap. I just hope if it is caped i can find another way to get over there in the timescale we have left :confused:

350 people at say £420 a head, people would have been clambering to get on board. Like someone says hey shot themselves in the foot. Firstly coming out with a ridiculous price of £590 then changing it a few days later :bitchy: If the plane doesn't get of the ground the only people to blame are ITA.

Lets hope the club come out with some news of there charter after the game tonight.

ronaldo7
22-07-2010, 05:59 PM
I registered my interest to them.

They sent me the price.

I sent a courtesy E Mail saying I wasn't interested.

:bye:

wazoo1875
22-07-2010, 06:06 PM
As one of the people who have booked up and put down cash for this trip im now fearing that im not going to get there now as the lack of numbers may cost me my trip after so much original interest.

This is my worry now too! There is not much room left on any decent flights out of anywhere and the cost is rising to almost the same as the charter . Do you have any ideas on the numbers who have actually paid up ? My mate spoke to them today and they took his money and said that they were trying to negociate a cheaper deal with airlines just now so that they could maybe bring the cost down again!

blackpoolhibs
22-07-2010, 06:07 PM
I registered my interest to them.

They sent me the price.

I sent a courtesy E Mail saying I wasn't interested.

:bye:

Me too. :agree:

cheeky moonkeh
22-07-2010, 06:10 PM
[QUOTE=hfc1875x;2521167]350 people at say £420 a head, people would have been clambering to get on board. Like someone says hey shot themselves in the foot. Firstly coming out with a ridiculous price of £590 then changing it a few days later :bitchy: If the plane doesn't get of the ground the only people to blame are ITA.

Lets hope the club come out with some news of there charter after the game tonight.[/QUOTE

Just to let you know that i had sent hibs an email on behalf of my boyfriend about a charter and got an email back on tuesday saying that they will not be doing a charter for this game

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 06:14 PM
Just to let you know that i had sent hibs an email on behalf of my boyfriend about a charter and got an email back on tuesday saying that they will not be doing a charter for this game[/QUOTE]

Can you post that email on here?

Kojock
22-07-2010, 06:17 PM
350 people at say £420 a head, people would have been clambering to get on board.

My reading of the ITA email is that 350 who registered have not replied. That means that there are people who registered and have replied so its possible they had over 400 people interested.

For under £600 you can get a weeks all inclusive in Egypt.

blackpoolhibs
22-07-2010, 06:17 PM
I thought ITA were doing the charter, and Hibs had nothing to do with it?

Kojock
22-07-2010, 06:20 PM
I thought ITA were doing the charter, and Hibs had nothing to do with it?

Thats what she said, Hibs were not doing a charter

blackpoolhibs
22-07-2010, 06:22 PM
Thats what she said, Hibs were not doing a charter

I'm confused now. :wink:

Baldy Foghorn
22-07-2010, 06:27 PM
I'm confused now. :wink:

Hibs officially are not doing a charter but ITA were thinkng of it, simples.........


Seems like people have put names down before getting approved holidays i.e. timewasters:grr:

hfc1875x
22-07-2010, 06:30 PM
Hibs officially are not doing a charter but ITA were thinkng of it, simples.........


Seems like people have put names down before getting approved holidays i.e. timewasters:grr:

I think you will find we put our names down before we got a whiff of the price & a total lack of details coming out of ITA with regards to times etc.

Kojock
22-07-2010, 06:30 PM
I'm confused now. :wink:

And you want to drive a minibus from Munich, god help the other passengers. :greengrin

Baldy Foghorn
22-07-2010, 06:33 PM
I think you will find we put our names down before we got a whiff of the price & a total lack of details coming out of ITA with regards to times etc.


So you are not the people I have stated then.....

people must have suspected it was going to be pricey no:confused:

blackpoolhibs
22-07-2010, 06:35 PM
Hibs officially are not doing a charter but ITA were thinkng of it, simples.........


Seems like people have put names down before getting approved holidays i.e. timewasters:grr:

I put my name down with 2 others. When they emailed me the price i declined, once i'd stopped laughing. I can get there for virtually half the price, folk were always going to try and get it the cheapest way they could, and the majority of folk i have spoken to, think ITA's price is too much.

blackpoolhibs
22-07-2010, 06:35 PM
And you want to drive a minibus from Munich, god help the other passengers. :greengrin

:greengrin

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 06:37 PM
Hibs officially are not doing a charter but ITA were thinkng of it, simples.........


Seems like people have put names down before getting approved holidays i.e. timewasters:grr:


:agree: Mate its looking like its getting caped at the moment! We probably wont have time to organise another trip and if we do we will probably end up paying more than the original charter price :grr:

Kojock
22-07-2010, 06:39 PM
people must have suspected it was going to be pricey no:confused:

Theres pricey and theres extortionate, then theres ripping the p1sh.

Six hundred sheets their having a giraffe mate.

Baldy Foghorn
22-07-2010, 06:43 PM
Theres pricey and theres extortionate, then theres ripping the p1sh.

Six hundred sheets their having a giraffe mate.

not really, given the convenience of saving time flying direct to Edinburgh....

I was charged 330 by sphere travel in 1989 going to Budapest...... Puts it into perspective somewhat

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 06:49 PM
not really, given the convenience of saving time flying direct to Edinburgh....

I was charged 330 by sphere travel in 1989 going to Budapest...... Puts it into perspective somewhat


Regardless of the price its alot easier than buggering about with 3 or 4 connections mate. Like you said nobody is forcing people to go although the ones that have registered interest should get back to ITA saying yes or no so the rest of us who have booked and paid can find out if we are going or not!

blackpoolhibs
22-07-2010, 06:49 PM
not really, given the convenience of saving time flying direct to Edinburgh....

I was charged 330 by sphere travel in 1989 going to Budapest...... Puts it into perspective somewhat

Not really, air travel has got cheaper over the years, i have flown to tenerife and back from blackpool for £40. £600 was too much for most. They registered thinking it would be a lot less, well i did anyway. And when they told us the price, a lot will have then sought other ways to get there.

hfc1875x
22-07-2010, 06:50 PM
So you are not the people I have stated then.....

people must have suspected it was going to be pricey no:confused:

I honestly though it would come in between 350 - 450 sheets tops.

Still they ask for number still we wait on details.

Im not handing over 500 odd notes to be getting a flight at 23.30 in the evening. Say they said the flight was 12 noon I would have seriously considered it.

Baldy Foghorn
22-07-2010, 06:51 PM
Not really, air travel has got cheaper over the years, i have flown to tenerife and back from blackpool for £40. £600 was too much for most. They registered thinking it would be a lot less, well i did anyway. And when they told us the price, a lot will have then sought other ways to get there.

And you know how much it costs to charter a flight.......?????

Some people really get there wires crossed on these posts

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 06:51 PM
Not really, air travel has got cheaper over the years, i have flown to tenerife and back from blackpool for £40. £600 was too much for most. They registered thinking it would be a lot less, well i did anyway. And when they told us the price, a lot will have then sought other ways to get there.


Did you reply to them telling them thanks but no thanks?

Baldy Foghorn
22-07-2010, 06:52 PM
I honestly though it would come in between 350 - 450 sheets tops.

Still they ask for number still we wait on details.

Im not handing over 500 odd notes to be getting a flight at 23.30 in the evening. Say they said the flight was 12 noon I would have seriously considered it.

no way on earth it was going to come in that cheaply......

Baldy Foghorn
22-07-2010, 06:52 PM
Regardless of the price its alot easier than buggering about with 3 or 4 connections mate. Like you said nobody is forcing people to go although the ones that have registered interest should get back to ITA saying yes or no so the rest of us who have booked and paid can find out if we are going or not!

People should have the courtesy to say thanks but no thanks.......Does not cost a thing to have manners

blackpoolhibs
22-07-2010, 06:53 PM
And you know how much it costs to charter a flight.......?????

Some people really get there wires crossed on these posts

I dont brockie, but i do know £600 is too much for most, or the plane would be full.

Baldy Foghorn
22-07-2010, 06:54 PM
I dont brockie, but i do know £600 is too much for most, or the plane would be full.

of course the plane would be full if it was 300 for example, but then ITA are not going to do it for nothing are they

Gala Foxes
22-07-2010, 06:54 PM
have got to say a lot of people clearly need a reality check on their expectations for flight costs - this was always going to cost at least the Dnipro price + a bit more

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 06:55 PM
People should have the courtesy to say thanks but no thanks.......Does not cost a thing to have manners


The people that have cut thier noses off will be kicking themselves on Thursday night if they dont go over. Any idea how many numbers we have confirmed on this charter?

hfc1875x
22-07-2010, 06:55 PM
no way on earth it was going to come in that cheaply......

If Murderwell can do it that cheap why cant ITA

The inclusive price is just £420, sold on a first-come-first-served basis, and includes:


Flights direct from Glasgow to Iceland with the team and club officials.
Transfer to city centre location in Reykjavík on arrival.
Transfers from an agreed city centre location, by bus, to the stadium on the day of the match.
Match ticket for the big game.

Also they include details rather than just asking for money off the cuff.

Baldy Foghorn
22-07-2010, 06:55 PM
have got to say a lot of people clearly need a reality check on their expectations for flight costs - this was always going to cost at least the Dnipro price + a bit more

:top marks

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 06:56 PM
have got to say a lot of people clearly need a reality check on their expectations for flight costs - this was always going to cost at least the Dnipro price + a bit more


Absolutely mate i didnt expect it to be any cheaper than £500

Baldy Foghorn
22-07-2010, 06:56 PM
The people that have cut thier noses off will be kicking themselves on Thursday night if they dont go over. Any idea how many numbers we have confirmed on this charter?

no idea fella

Baldy Foghorn
22-07-2010, 06:58 PM
If Murderwell can do it that cheap why cant ITA

The inclusive price is just £420, sold on a first-come-first-served basis, and includes:


Flights direct from Glasgow to Iceland with the team and club officials.
Transfer to city centre location in Reykjavík on arrival.
Transfers from an agreed city centre location, by bus, to the stadium on the day of the match.
Match ticket for the big game.

Also they include details rather than just asking for money off the cuff.

Because Motherwell are already going and have some seats spare, and are not passing costs onto their fans...... Full flight, Motherwell get money, Fans get to go, everyone happy

blackpoolhibs
22-07-2010, 07:00 PM
of course the plane would be full if it was 300 for example, but then ITA are not going to do it for nothing are they

I understand that, but when you see flights accomodation and transfers for £300, albeit with a bit of hassle, it was alway going to attract folk away from the £600 trip. And the motherwell trip at £420 seems good value for a similar trip, and one i'd have paid had it been hibs.

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 07:01 PM
I understand that, but when you see flights accomodation and transfers for £300, albeit with a bit of hassle, it was alway going to attract folk away from the £600 trip. And the motherwell trip at £420 seems good value for a similar trip, and one i'd have paid had it been hibs.

If would pay 420 the surely 535 isnt too bad at a push? Are Motherwell fans not coming back right away after the game. We were getting 2 nights tranfers and direct flights!

Baldy Foghorn
22-07-2010, 07:02 PM
I understand that, but when you see flights accomodation and transfers for £300, albeit with a bit of hassle, it was alway going to attract folk away from the £600 trip. And the motherwell trip at £420 seems good value for a similar trip, and one i'd have paid had it been hibs.

You are paying premium price to have convenience and cut travelling times.... If people want to go planes, trains and automobiles route, that is their own preference

blackpoolhibs
22-07-2010, 07:05 PM
If would pay 420 the surely 535 isnt too bad at a push?

It was not £535 though, it was £600, and understandably folk said sod that, and got something cheaper. Then they brought the price down and perhaps missed a lot who'd now booked a different way?

blackpoolhibs
22-07-2010, 07:08 PM
You are paying premium price to have convenience and cut travelling times.... If people want to go planes, trains and automobiles route, that is their own preference

I understand that too, and again it seems not a lot want to pay premium prices, and have opted for the cheaper way.

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 07:08 PM
It was not £535 though, it was £600, and understandably folk said sod that, and got something cheaper. Then they brought the price down and perhaps missed a lot who'd now booked a different way?


Aye but the ones who have paid up and took the offer without the hassle are looking like they are going to get rammed and possibly miss out now!

hfc1875x
22-07-2010, 07:10 PM
I think its also the general lack of information. If ITA were to release a statement of intention along with itinerary I reckon the flight could be salvaged. As it stand there PR is baws. Aye, 500 odd quid please we will tell you about it later :bitchy:

blackpoolhibs
22-07-2010, 07:11 PM
Aye but the ones who have paid up and took the offer without the hassle are looking like they are going to get rammed and possibly miss out now!

Aye thats a pity. :agree:

monktonharp
22-07-2010, 07:11 PM
And you know how much it costs to charter a flight.......?????

Some people really get there wires crossed on these posts Ithink he expects the flight captain to double up as a hostess too.:wink:keeps the costs waaaaay down

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 07:16 PM
Aye thats a pity. :agree:


Do i detect sarcasm or am i taking the post the wrong way BPH?

monktonharp
22-07-2010, 07:16 PM
If Murderwell can do it that cheap why cant ITA

The inclusive price is just £420, sold on a first-come-first-served basis, and includes:


Flights direct from Glasgow to Iceland with the team and club officials.
Transfer to city centre location in Reykjavík on arrival.
Transfers from an agreed city centre location, by bus, to the stadium on the day of the match.
Match ticket for the big game.

Also they include details rather than just asking for money off the cuff.most American flights from glesga go via Iceland,so it's a regular route. flights to iceland have got to be less than hungary/slovenia naw? a bit closer to Scotland methinks

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 07:18 PM
I think its also the general lack of information. If ITA were to release a statement of intention along with itinerary I reckon the flight could be salvaged. As it stand there PR is baws. Aye, 500 odd quid please we will tell you about it later :bitchy:


If they release one tonight then it might still be saved otherwise it looks like its game over :boo hoo:

blackpoolhibs
22-07-2010, 07:18 PM
Do i detect sarcasm or am i taking the post the wrong way BPH?

No, its a pity the flight might have to be cancelled, i want it full, i want as many of us as possible at the game.

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 07:20 PM
No, its a pity the flight might have to be cancelled, i want it full, i want as many of us as possible at the game.


Whats your travel arrangements? I might be joining you !:wink:

Gala Foxes
22-07-2010, 07:22 PM
Whats your travel arrangements? I might be joining you !:wink:

I am confident that ITA will deliver - they are experienced agents, proven track record, knowing where we are going in 45 minutes will be a good starting point to firm things up

hfc1875x
22-07-2010, 07:26 PM
If they release one tonight then it might still be saved otherwise it looks like its game over :boo hoo:

Fingers crossed :thumbsup:

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 07:30 PM
I am confident that ITA will deliver - they are experienced agents, proven track record, knowing where we are going in 45 minutes will be a good starting point to firm things up


Going by the current scoreline its maribor!:thumbsup: Cmon ITA give us trip to remember!:greengrin:greengrin

Gala Foxes
22-07-2010, 07:32 PM
Going by the current scoreline its maribor!:thumbsup: Cmon ITA give us trip to remember!:greengrin:greengrin

Hermit Crab - I will see you in the bar for a cold Slovenian beer next week

down-the-slope
22-07-2010, 07:35 PM
If Murderwell can do it that cheap why cant ITA

The inclusive price is just £420, sold on a first-come-first-served basis, and includes:


Flights direct from Glasgow to Iceland with the team and club officials.
Transfer to city centre location in Reykjavík on arrival.
Transfers from an agreed city centre location, by bus, to the stadium on the day of the match.
Match ticket for the big game.
Also they include details rather than just asking for money off the cuff.


Motherwells draw - actualyy knowing who they were playing and having away game second left much more time for a trip to be organised. That makes a massive difference

Hermit Crab
22-07-2010, 07:36 PM
Hermit Crab - I will see you in the bar for a cold Slovenian beer next week

What about at Edinburgh Airport for a cold overpriced Tennents! :greengrin