Imperial Tobacco versus The Scottish Parliament

[Future17]

Judicial review process has begun and Imperial are arguing that the Scottish Parliament does not have the authority to enforce it's plans, as they relate to matters still reserved at Westminster under consumer protection legislation.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/10451824.stm

[mickki40]

This is pish, Never mind where legislation is enforced or made, Imperial should do the decent thing.

[Sumner]

death stick peddling vermin

[khib70]

death stick peddling vermin

:yawn:Get a life!

Hope IT get this nanny state garbage bombed out. Meanwhile, we smokers will continue to subsidise the NHS with our taxes. What's your contribution?

[Betty Boop]

:yawn:Get a life!

Hope IT get this nanny state garbage bombed out. Meanwhile, we smokers will continue to subsidise the NHS with our taxes. What's your contribution?

Good grief ! I agree with you. :greengrin

[lyonhibs]

:yawn:Get a life!

Hope IT get this nanny state garbage bombed out. Meanwhile, we smokers will continue to subsidise the NHS with our taxes. What's your contribution?

Quick question.

Does anyone have any reliable stats regarding how much taxes are paid by working smokers vs how much treating smoking related illness/disease - whether by passive or active smoking - costs the NHS every year.

The same questions applies to those classed as obese.

Would be interesting to see, that's all.

And yes, I am a healthy non-smoker paying taxes :greengrin

[Woody1985]

:yawn:Get a life!

Hope IT get this nanny state garbage bombed out. Meanwhile, we smokers will continue to subsidise the NHS with our taxes. What's your contribution?

Do you support the legalisation of drugs?

[Phil D. Rolls]

This is pish, Never mind where legislation is enforced or made, Imperial should do the decent thing.

Pigs might fly.


:yawn:Get a life!

Hope IT get this nanny state garbage bombed out. Meanwhile, we smokers will continue to subsidise the NHS with our taxes. What's your contribution?


Quick question.

Does anyone have any reliable stats regarding how much taxes are paid by working smokers vs how much treating smoking related illness/disease - whether by passive or active smoking - costs the NHS every year.

The same questions applies to those classed as obese.

Would be interesting to see, that's all.

And yes, I am a healthy non-smoker paying taxes :greengrin

Exactly, less and less smokers every year (I am one). How much longer will tax income subsidise the cost of smoking in lost work days and costs to the NHS?

[Beefster]

Quick question.

Does anyone have any reliable stats regarding how much taxes are paid by working smokers vs how much treating smoking related illness/disease - whether by passive or active smoking - costs the NHS every year.

The same questions applies to those classed as obese.

Would be interesting to see, that's all.

And yes, I am a healthy non-smoker paying taxes :greengrin

Can't remember where but I read that smoking costs the NHS £2bn but brings in £10bn in taxes. It was official stats (i.e. Dept of Health and Treasury).

Obese people aren't taxed more than non-obese people so any extra they cost as a result of their lifestyle choice is funded by everyone.

[Phil D. Rolls]

Can't remember where but I read that smoking costs the NHS £2bn but brings in £10bn in taxes. It was official stats (i.e. Dept of Health and Treasury).

Obese people aren't taxed more than non-obese people so any extra they cost as a result of their lifestyle choice is funded by everyone.

Fair enough. They pay VAT on chocolate though.

[Woody1985]

Pigs might fly.





Exactly, less and less smokers every year (I am one). How much longer will tax income subsidise the cost of smoking in lost work days and costs to the NHS?

Surely the less smokers then the less associated negative costs.

The big question is, when most people quit smoking where will the lost tax revenue come from. The problem with governments is that they like their income to remain the same or higher so they'll get it from somewhere.

I still can't see if anyone has asked the government the question about VAT going back down when we sell the banks back to the private sector and eradicate or drastically reduce the deficit in a few years time. :confused: Does anyone know if this question has been asked!

[Leicester Fan]

I still can't see if anyone has asked the government the question about VAT going back down when we sell the banks back to the private sector and eradicate or drastically reduce the deficit in a few years time. :confused: Does anyone know if this question has been asked!

I'm not certain but I think I've heard that the money invested in the banks isn't counted into the deficit because it's assumed that that money will be repaid when the shares are sold on again.

On the question of smokers, don't forget that they also tend to die earlier costing the govt less in pensions and associated benefits.

[Phil D. Rolls]

Surely the less smokers then the less associated negative costs.

The big question is, when most people quit smoking where will the lost tax revenue come from. The problem with governments is that they like their income to remain the same or higher so they'll get it from somewhere.

I still can't see if anyone has asked the government the question about VAT going back down when we sell the banks back to the private sector and eradicate or drastically reduce the deficit in a few years time. :confused: Does anyone know if this question has been asked!

They could legalise Heroin. :dunno:

[Woody1985]

They could legalise Heroin. :dunno:

My point was more to do with the fact that I'll get hit in the pocket more from elsewhere when the revenues go down rather than saying that it should remain high and people smoke (as I say just stubbing the ciggy out!).

[Woody1985]

I'm not certain but I think I've heard that the money invested in the banks isn't counted into the deficit because it's assumed that that money will be repaid when the shares are sold on again.

On the question of smokers, don't forget that they also tend to die earlier costing the govt less in pensions and associated benefits.

Thanks.