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Teo10
29-03-2010, 01:36 PM
Having a conversation at work and it got me thinking what would happen in this situation.

Last game of the season, the top two teams have drawn eachother. BUT, both teams are on equal points and equal goal difference and the game ends 1-1.

Would the league title be shared?! or would there be an ET and penalties/flip of the coin to decide who wins it?

hibee1875
29-03-2010, 01:42 PM
Had this question in a pub quiz before. It goes down to a play-off.

Aldo
29-03-2010, 01:43 PM
Teo mate I think there would be a play off at a neutral venue. Thats what is done in the EPL if all ends square.

Danderhall Hibs
29-03-2010, 01:44 PM
Having a conversation at work and it got me thinking what would happen in this situation.

Last game of the season, the top two teams have drawn eachother. BUT, both teams are on equal points and equal goal difference and the game ends 1-1.

Would the league title be shared?! or would there be an ET and penalties/flip of the coin to decide who wins it?

Goals scored.

Your gaffer off today?

Peevemor
29-03-2010, 01:46 PM
This almost happened 6 or 7 years ago. Although the uglies weren't playing each other, it was possible going into the last game that they would end up with identical points, goal difference and goals scored.

The Scottish League rule was that the title would have gone to the team with the lower number of Roman Catholics. :agree:

Teo10
29-03-2010, 02:19 PM
Goals scored.

Your gaffer off today?

Nope, it would be the same goals scored for and against:wink:

and Nope the gaffer is present today:boo hoo:

Danderhall Hibs
29-03-2010, 02:21 PM
Nope, it would be the same goals scored for and against:wink:

and Nope the gaffer is present today:boo hoo:

So everything's identical then?!

What about alphabetical order? Or games v eachother (that's what they do in Spain)

Peevemor
29-03-2010, 02:22 PM
So everything's identical then?!

What about alphabetical order? Or games v eachother (that's what they do in Spain)

Nope, definitely number of papes. :agree:

Jack
29-03-2010, 02:51 PM
Jack understands that the Papes ruling would come after the alphabetical ruling.

That is the placing would be in alphabetical order.

So forgive me for not working out what it would be at the end of the season but it would be something like this.



P GD PTS
1 Aberdeen 1 1 1
2 Celtic 1 1 1
3 Dundee Utd 1 1 1
4 Falkirk 1 1 1
5 Hamilton 1 1 1
6 Hearts 1 1 1
7 Hibernian 1 1 1
8 Kilmarnock 1 1 1
9 Motherwell 1 1 1
10 Rangers 1 1 1
11 St Johnstone 1 1 1
12 St Mirren 1 1 1

Peevemor
29-03-2010, 02:56 PM
Jack understands that the Papes ruling would come after the alphabetical ruling.

That is the placing would be in alphabetical order.

So forgive me for not working out what it would be at the end of the season but it would be something like this.



P GD PTS
1 Aberdeen 1 1 1
2 Celtic 1 1 1
3 Dundee Utd 1 1 1
4 Falkirk 1 1 1
5 Hamilton 1 1 1
6 Hearts 1 1 1
7 Hibernian 1 1 1
8 Kilmarnock 1 1 1
9 Motherwell 1 1 1
10 Rangers 1 1 1
11 St Johnstone 1 1 1
12 St Mirren 1 1 1





Nope it's papes first, but your example is correct as they've all got one pape each. :greengrin

Hibercelona
29-03-2010, 04:00 PM
If goal difference is the same, then it will go onto the "goals scored" stat.

And if by some miracle the "goals scored" stat is the same. I think it goes onto the clubs displinary records i.e yellow/red cards.

Hibs On Tour
29-03-2010, 04:08 PM
Whoever has the most 'nameless wonders' on their fans forums, surely? :nerd:

Jack
29-03-2010, 06:07 PM
SPL Handbook 2009/10



A6.2.2 At the end of each Season (following completion of all League Matches) the Club scoring the highest number of points during that Season save in circumstances in which Rules A6.3 or A6.4 apply, in which case the higher placed Club, shall be declared the Champion Club of the League ("the Champion Club"). The Club scoring the lowest number of points during that Season save in circumstances in which Rules A6.3 or A6.4 apply in which case the lower placed Club, shall be declared the last placed Club and, subject to Rule

A6.3 If any two or more Clubs are equal in points at the end of the Season, the higher placed Club shall be the Club with the larger or largest positive goal difference (or the lower or lowest negative goal difference where appropriate). Goal difference shall be determined by deducting the goals conceded from the goals scored in all League Matches played during the Season. In the event of the goal difference being equal, the higher placed Club shall be the Club, which has scored most goals in League Matches during the Season.

A6.4 If two or more Clubs have the same goal difference and have scored the same number of goals in the relevant Season and their positions in the League have a bearing on deciding which Club is the Champion Club or the relegation of any Club or qualification (or consideration for qualification) for any other competitions including UEFA Competitions, then the Clubs concerned shall play-off a deciding League Match on a date and at a neutral ground as determined by the Board in each case. Such deciding League Match shall be of 90 minutes duration with 30 minutes of extra time and kicks from the penalty mark if necessary. The net gate money after deducting expenses shall be divided equally between the competing Clubs. Any Club staging a play-off match shall be entitled to charge, as an expense against the receipts of the match, its necessary match expenses together with a ground facility fee of 20% of the gross gate receipts after deduction of Value Added Tax.

A6.5 If two or more Clubs have the same goal difference and have scored the same number of goals in the relevant Season but their positions in the League do not have a bearing on deciding which Club is the Champion Club or relegation of any Club or qualification for any other competitions, including UEFA Competitions, then the Clubs concerned shall not play-off a deciding League Match and shall be deemed to have finished in equal positions for all purposes.

Argylehibby
29-03-2010, 06:23 PM
((A6.4 If two or more Clubs have the same goal difference and have scored the same number of goals in the relevant Season and their positions in the League have a bearing on deciding which Club is the Champion Club or the relegation of any Club or qualification (or consideration for qualification) for any other competitions including UEFA Competitions, then the Clubs concerned shall play-off a deciding League Match on a date and at a neutral ground as determined by the Board in each case. Such deciding League Match shall be of 90 minutes duration with 30 minutes of extra time and kicks from the penalty mark if necessary.))

Could get a bit crowded in midfield if 3 clubs finished equal!!

I'm_cabbaged
29-03-2010, 06:33 PM
This almost happened 6 or 7 years ago. Although the uglies weren't playing each other, it was possible going into the last game that they would end up with identical points, goal difference and goals scored.

The Scottish League rule was that the title would have gone to the team with the lower number of Roman Catholics. :agree:


Nope, definitely number of papes. :agree:


Nope it's papes first, but your example is correct as they've all got one pape each. :greengrin

Sadly this is true, playing for St. Marks primary we never had a chance, being shiete had nothing to do with it. Eleven papes of a start every season, no ***in chance. :boo hoo: