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Sloppy
21-02-2010, 03:05 AM
straight red = 3match ban :grr::grr::grr:

Diclonius
21-02-2010, 03:21 AM
Hearts' perpetual luck continues.

PaulSmith
21-02-2010, 07:21 AM
straight red = 3match ban :grr::grr::grr:

Has this been confirmed as I'd be surprised that serious foul play carries a 3 match ban as Miller's points threshold for this season and his 2 previous (obviously none) would be non existent


Edit- you get 12 points for serious foul play and automatically miss the next game, anyone getting more that 18 points in a season will get further games.

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/documents/Disciplinary/DisciplineExplained/DisciplinaryProcedures/01%20Disciplinary%20Procedures%20for%20Players%20M isconduct%20(SPL%20Competitions)2.pdf

If someone can advise how many yellows Liam Miller already has it should be fairly straightforward to work out total ban.

sunshine1875
21-02-2010, 08:17 AM
Has this been confirmed as I'd be surprised that serious foul play carries a 3 match ban as Miller's points threshold for this season and his 2 previous (obviously none) would be non existent


Edit- you get 12 points for serious foul play and automatically miss the next game, anyone getting more that 18 points in a season will get further games.

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/documents/Disciplinary/DisciplineExplained/DisciplinaryProcedures/01%20Disciplinary%20Procedures%20for%20Players%20M isconduct%20(SPL%20Competitions)2.pdf (http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/documents/Disciplinary/DisciplineExplained/DisciplinaryProcedures/01%20Disciplinary%20Procedures%20for%20Players%20M isconduct%20(SPL%20Competitions)2.pdf)

If someone can advise how many yellows Liam Miller already has it should be fairly straightforward to work out total ban.

He has had three.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/stats/ (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/stats/)

PaulSmith
21-02-2010, 08:28 AM
He has had three.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/stats/ (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/stats/)

That being the case he will be on 21 points (12 points for SFP and 3x3 points for the cautions) this should result in an automatic 1 game ban plus another for going over the 18 point threshold.

Saying all that he might still miss the derby as the 2nd part of the suspension kicks in 14 days after the offence, therefore he will the St Johnstone game for definite and either the home game V Killie or the Hearts game..

Any period of suspension incurred by a player as a result of his having accumulated 18 or more penalty points, shall commence on the 14th day following the date of the offence which resulted in the incurring of the suspension. The suspension shall apply until such time as the requisite number of matches have been completed by his club in the competition in which the suspension was incurred, in accordance with the provisions of Paragraph 3.8.

Judas Iscariot
21-02-2010, 09:27 AM
Hibs should defo appeal the red card..

Not that it will be overturned though, it'll give us something else to moan about..

PC Stamp
21-02-2010, 10:40 AM
straight red = 3match ban :grr::grr::grr:

No it doesn't and never has. The red card carries an automatic ONE match ban and depending on what it was for, up to 12 pts added to the player's total. Going over 18 pts gets a ban under the totting up process which as already stated takes effect 14 days after going over the threshold.

On that basis he'll miss the next two games none of which are the derby.

matty_f
21-02-2010, 11:27 AM
No it doesn't and never has. The red card carries an automatic ONE match ban and depending on what it was for, up to 12 pts added to the player's total. Going over 18 pts gets a ban under the totting up process which as already stated takes effect 14 days after going over the threshold.

On that basis he'll miss the next two games none of which are the derby.

Thank f..k for that, it would be brutal going into another derby this season with at least one key player being out. The yams have enjoyed massive luck in terms of the hibs side they've had to face in the last few games.

HenryMonk
21-02-2010, 11:33 AM
why does he get 3 points for each yellow, boyd only got 2 for his assualt. it would have been 3 for dangerous play, so doubt he will have 3 yellows for dangerous play.

yeah no?

Sandy
21-02-2010, 11:54 AM
Sorry for being dumb, but does he miss the derby or not then ? :greengrin

J-C
21-02-2010, 12:53 PM
Sorry for being dumb, but does he miss the derby or not then ? :greengrin


Well, maybe or then again maybe not :wink:

Hainan Hibs
21-02-2010, 12:55 PM
Doesn't matter anyway, past two derbies he has spent the entire time in Mikey Stewart's back pocket.









:devil:

Toaods
21-02-2010, 01:27 PM
great news he's available as he is due us a performance against them.

seanraff07
21-02-2010, 01:40 PM
Would be a massive blow if Miller was to miss the derby, we have to appeal IMO.:grr:

Golden Bear
21-02-2010, 01:41 PM
Doesn't matter anyway, past two derbies he has spent the entire time in Mikey Stewart's back pocket.









:devil:

:agree:

This is very true unfortunately.

Dr Jimmy
21-02-2010, 01:44 PM
Would be a massive blow if Miller was to miss the derby, we have to appeal IMO.:grr:

The danger with an appeal could mean he gets tp play until it's heard an then loses the apeal and gets banned. This could then mean he misses the derby.....:dunno:

seanraff07
21-02-2010, 01:48 PM
The danger with an appeal could mean he gets tp play until it's heard an then loses the apeal and gets banned. This could then mean he misses the derby.....

Good point, but if Hibs can make a move quickly and appeal tomorrow then i'm sure they would have an answer as to whether it is accepted or rejected by the end of the week.:dunno:

Riordans Boots
21-02-2010, 01:51 PM
Do you think Yogi is going to appeal this :dunno:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/hibernian/2010/02/21/liam-miller-red-card-proves-spl-is-in-a-sorry-state-says-hibs-boss-john-hughes-86908-22058789/

Golden Bear
21-02-2010, 02:29 PM
Do you think Yogi is going to appeal this :dunno:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/hibernian/2010/02/21/liam-miller-red-card-proves-spl-is-in-a-sorry-state-says-hibs-boss-john-hughes-86908-22058789/

Dunno either.

But I hope his comments don't land him in more hot water with the beaks.

PC Stamp
21-02-2010, 03:06 PM
He misses next week automatically and 14 days from going over the points threshold is the Kilmarnock game.

To answer another question, it wouldn't matter if he had 3 two point cautions ... he'd STILL have reached the threshold of 18 pointsd for a suspension under the totting up process.
Each bookable offence carries a points tarrif. Most are 3 point offences with a couple of 2 pointers and an occasional 1 point.

Alex Trager
21-02-2010, 05:23 PM
I'm sure this has been discussed but it was never a red and how come the twat that lashed out never got a red i.e. nish

JimBHibees
21-02-2010, 05:32 PM
The danger with an appeal could mean he gets tp play until it's heard an then loses the apeal and gets banned. This could then mean he misses the derby.....:dunno:

No the appeal would be heard prior to the St Johnstone game. It requires the ref to admit to a mistake which is unlikely.