What happens if you dont pay a parking ticket?

[SneakersO'Toole]

Got a parking ticket last Tuesday at 9.50pm having parked on a double yellow for about 10mins while I waited to get my sister off the train at Weaverly.

Needless to say I was furious considering the time of day it was. In the past I've always just taken it on the chin and paid but out of curiousity whay would happen if I didnt pay?

Has anyone ever done this or am I asking for more trouble but just playing dumb?

All help appreciated. Any Hibs supporting traffic wardens out there? :wink:

[Steve-O]

A potential court appearance I would've thought!

[Darth Hibbie]

Got a parking ticket last Tuesday at 9.50pm having parked on a double yellow for about 10mins while I waited to get my sister off the train at Weaverly.

Needless to say I was furious considering the time of day it was. In the past I've always just taken it on the chin and paid but out of curiousity whay would happen if I didnt pay?

Has anyone ever done this or am I asking for more trouble but just playing dumb?

All help appreciated. Any Hibs supporting traffic wardens out there? :wink:

Depends on who issued the parking ticket. Could be police, police traffic warden, council traffic warden or private company.

[Scouse Hibee]

What happens.............................Let me see, they don't really bother chasing you. After all they had the audacity to ticket you for being iilegally parked so they won't really be bothered if you just ignore it will they???? Best advice pay the fine.

[legends of 73]

if you got it in the station then it was the transport police who are cants.there is free parking for 20 mins at the end of the drop off zone you should have parked there:agree:

[IndieHibby]

Used to work for a big debt collection company :duck:. If you don't pay a council one it eventually get's passed to a debt collector (by which time it will have doubled, at least, + debt collectors fees + interest) and they will keep phoning you week after week after week.

Best pay it, mate. The only people who can 'get away' with not paying are those that can't afford to.

It may help you to know that these companies are still collecting Poll Tax from the early 90's!

[J-C]

Start at £30 if you pay it within a fortnight, if not it goes up to £60, then after a while( can't remember how long ) it goes up to £90 and so on etc.

Best pay up right away and get it at the cheaper rate.

[Woody1985]

Used to work for a big debt collection company :duck:. If you don't pay a council one it eventually get's passed to a debt collector (by which time it will have doubled, at least, + debt collectors fees + interest) and they will keep phoning you week after week after week.

Best pay it, mate. The only people who can 'get away' with not paying are those that can't afford to.

It may help you to know that these companies are still collecting Poll Tax from the early 90's!

I got one in June last year, one of my mates passed away in an accident so I went into town and got wrecked, left the car there and it got a ticket the next day.

I got the fine and due to my situation I was in the 'I don't give a **** about anything right now' mode so I didn't pay it.

Got letters, went from 30 initially, to 60, to 90. I replied to the council letter £60 one, it asks to contact them if you can't pay, I wrote in the section 'NOT PAYING. NO MONEY' :faf: They wrote back, basically saying tough ****, you shouldn't have parked there.

It was then passed to the debt collectors. They tried to ask how much I earned etc, I told them and they told me that they expected payment in one go, I telt them to **** off and they were last on my list for any sort of payment.

I paid them £45 in November with the rest outstanding and I told them I'd phone and pay the rest next month. The ***** had the cheek to charge me 50p to make the payment by card. The woman asked if that was okay, I said no, you're phoning me for a debt and you want me to pay your card processing fee. I asked her if she was ****ing mental and she asked what I meant. :LOL:

They phone me every month and I just tell them next month. Funnily enough, I told them to phone me on the 20th. When they phone me next I'm going to tell them I lost my job and they can take a fiver a month (the minimum this company say they will accept).

If you tell them you earn or have less than 600pcm remaining from your wage due to other commitments, I think they are obliged to accept what you offer.

Moral of the story, pay the £30, unless you are skint and drag them along and pay as little as you can. :LOL:

[steakbake]

I got one in June last year, one of my mates passed away in an accident so I went into town and got wrecked, left the car there and it got a ticket the next day.

I got the fine and due to my situation I was in the 'I don't give a **** about anything right now' mode so I didn't pay it.

Got letters, went from 30 initially, to 60, to 90. I replied to the council letter £60 one, it asks to contact them if you can't pay, I wrote in the section 'NOT PAYING. NO MONEY' :faf: They wrote back, basically saying tough ****, you shouldn't have parked there.

It was then passed to the debt collectors. They tried to ask how much I earned etc, I told them and they told me that they expected payment in one go, I telt them to **** off and they were last on my list for any sort of payment.

I paid them £45 in November with the rest outstanding and I told them I'd phone and pay the rest next month. The ***** had the cheek to charge me 50p to make the payment by card. The woman asked if that was okay, I said no, you're phoning me for a debt and you want me to pay your card processing fee. I asked her if she was ****ing mental and she asked what I meant. :LOL:

They phone me every month and I just tell them next month. Funnily enough, I told them to phone me on the 20th. When they phone me next I'm going to tell them I lost my job and they can take a fiver a month (the minimum this company say they will accept).

If you tell them you earn or have less than 600pcm remaining from your wage due to other commitments, I think they are obliged to accept what you offer.

Moral of the story, pay the £30, unless you are skint and drag them along and pay as little as you can. :LOL:

Honestly, what a palaver. 30 quid is annoying, but if you pay it you can avoid a monthly phone call from the council and a series of letters going back and forward. Sounds like that's worth 30 quid.

[CropleyWasGod]

Got a parking ticket last Tuesday at 9.50pm having parked on a double yellow for about 10mins while I waited to get my sister off the train at Weaverly.

Needless to say I was furious considering the time of day it was. In the past I've always just taken it on the chin and paid but out of curiousity whay would happen if I didnt pay?

Has anyone ever done this or am I asking for more trouble but just playing dumb?

All help appreciated. Any Hibs supporting traffic wardens out there? :wink:

I think you need shooting.

:rolleyes:

[Woody1985]

Honestly, what a palaver. 30 quid is annoying, but if you pay it you can avoid a monthly phone call from the council and a series of letters going back and forward. Sounds like that's worth 30 quid.

:agree: that I should have paid the £30 and saved some money.

The way I see it now though is that they can keep spending time and money chasing it down. As long as it doesn't increase any further or I have to go to court I'm not fussed. I'll pay it at the last possible opportunity.

That's the business they're in, they want to hound people to get the money, I'm going to make them work for it. :LOL: They can spend more than the £90 in resources chasing me down.

It doesn't really bother me getting the phone calls and I don't feel harassed so it's no big deal for me.

On a slightly different note, there is an extremely hot traffic warden in town. She can ticket me any time :drool:

[Hibby Bairn]

And you'll be the same kind of erse who will complain about council tax rises, closing schools etc.

What a choob.

[Beefster]

:agree: that I should have paid the £30 and saved some money.

The way I see it now though is that they can keep spending time and money chasing it down. As long as it doesn't increase any further or I have to go to court I'm not fussed. I'll pay it at the last possible opportunity.

That's the business they're in, they want to hound people to get the money, I'm going to make them work for it. :LOL: They can spend more than the £90 in resources chasing me down.

It doesn't really bother me getting the phone calls and I don't feel harassed so it's no big deal for me.

On a slightly different note, there is an extremely hot traffic warden in town. She can ticket me any time :drool:

Your time comes at a cost too. Ultimately, the folk chasing you are employees who get paid, no matter what. You won't get the time you waste dealing with them back.

Work out what your time is worth per hour and you'll probably never waste it doing pointless stuff again.

[IndieHibby]

Just as well the debt is small, otherwise they'd send the baliff round to do a 'poinding'. Basically looking at your stuff to see if there is anything worth taking.

They'll take a more expensive electrical item to pay a small debt. Doesn't bother them.

Unless that is now illegal in Scotland - can't remember. There were murmourings about banning it, IIRC?

[J-C]

Just as well the debt is small, otherwise they'd send the baliff round to do a 'poinding'. Basically looking at your stuff to see if there is anything worth taking.

They'll take a more expensive electrical item to pay a small debt. Doesn't bother them.

Unless that is now illegal in Scotland - can't remember. There were murmourings about banning it, IIRC?


I seem to remember it being banned, I think they have to take you to court first and they'll also arrest your wages and freeze your bank account.

[Houchy]

If you don't pay it, it'll probably (eventually) go on you credit history. We all know they can be the **** of the earth but best just sook it up and pay it as soon as.

At the end of the day, you wouldn't be as p@ssed off if you lost £30 at the bookies.

Plus, if you're honest, it's probably not the first time you've parked illegally but usually get away with it.

[lapsedhibee]

Got a parking ticket last Tuesday at 9.50pm having parked on a double yellow for about 10mins while I waited to get my sister off the train at Weaverly.

Needless to say I was furious considering the time of day it was.

Absolute disgrace that the laws of the land apply 24/7. After the watershed you should be able to rob off licences, mug old ladies, drink drive, whatever, with impunity. :agree:

[The Mook]

On a similar topic, has anyone out there got a ticket from one of these private parking firms :dunno:

Morrisons have installed cameras at the Granton store. I got one from them for 30 sheets and had no intention of paying it, still dont. A few work mates are in the same boat, nobodys paid.

I got one letter from them and then nothing. Been told that because its private land they basically cant enforce anything. Just wondering if anyone else has had experience of this? Will this show up on my credit rating in any way:dunno:

[Darth Hibbie]

Just as well the debt is small, otherwise they'd send the baliff round to do a 'poinding'. Basically looking at your stuff to see if there is anything worth taking.

They'll take a more expensive electrical item to pay a small debt. Doesn't bother them.

Unless that is now illegal in Scotland - can't remember. There were murmourings about banning it, IIRC?

Not allowed in Scotland at all. They can only take property that is secured on a loan. usually a house or car or if you have something on HP. Even then they require a court order.

[Darth Hibbie]

On a similar topic, has anyone out there got a ticket from one of these private parking firms :dunno:

Morrisons have installed cameras at the Granton store. I got one from them for 30 sheets and had no intention of paying it, still dont. A few work mates are in the same boat, nobodys paid.

I got one letter from them and then nothing. Been told that because its private land they basically cant enforce anything. Just wondering if anyone else has had experience of this? Will this show up on my credit rating in any way:dunno:

They would need to prove that the registered keeper of the car was driving it at the time it was parked. If they do not have photographic evidence and you do not admit they have no chance. Its up to you if you want the hassle of ignoring it or pay up for an easy life.

[Pete]

Got a parking ticket last Tuesday at 9.50pm having parked on a double yellow for about 10mins while I waited to get my sister off the train at Weaverly.

Needless to say I was furious considering the time of day it was. In the past I've always just taken it on the chin and paid but out of curiousity whay would happen if I didnt pay?

Has anyone ever done this or am I asking for more trouble but just playing dumb?

All help appreciated. Any Hibs supporting traffic wardens out there? :wink:

Even if you park on a single yellow for ten minutes you are entitled to a ticket. A double yellow is an instant ticket no matter the circumstances....never mind ten.

If you know someone who works for a garage just ask them to write you an invoice for a tow, show it to the ticketing people and tell them you had broken down. They'll drop it if you do that.

[Darth Hibbie]

Even if you park on a single yellow for ten minutes you are entitled to a ticket. A double yellow is an instant ticket no matter the circumstances....never mind ten.

If you know someone who works for a garage just ask them to write you an invoice for a tow, show it to the ticketing people and tell them you had broken down. They'll drop it if you do that.

I thought double or single yellow lines you were ok for eleven minutes it was only if there was loading restrictions that it was an instant ticket. I could be wrong there though.

[J-C]

On a similar topic, has anyone out there got a ticket from one of these private parking firms :dunno:

Morrisons have installed cameras at the Granton store. I got one from them for 30 sheets and had no intention of paying it, still dont. A few work mates are in the same boat, nobodys paid.

I got one letter from them and then nothing. Been told that because its private land they basically cant enforce anything. Just wondering if anyone else has had experience of this? Will this show up on my credit rating in any way:dunno:


I'm sure the land at Morrisons is private land and you park there if you are using their facilities, if after a certain time your car is still parked when they say it shouldn't be, then they can legally ticket you, it's like parking in an official car park.

[Pete]

I thought double or single yellow lines you were ok for eleven minutes it was only if there was loading restrictions that it was an instant ticket. I could be wrong there though.

I can't see there being same rules for single yellows as doubles. Here's what I have been told.

Technically:

Instant ticket for any red lines.

Instant for any double yellow

Five minutes for a single yellow...and if they've other yellow markings crossing them it's an instant ticket after the time shown on some sign that is probably covered in spraypaint and miles away

The white zig-zags at crossings are an instant ticket and 3 points!!

Blue badges CANNOT park on double yellows or bloody taxi ranks!



That's the info I got from these meanies but I'll stand corrected as I'm not convinced they are 100% sure of the rules themselves.

[Darth Hibbie]

I can't see there being same rules for single yellows as doubles. Here's what I have been told.

Technically:

Instant ticket for any red lines.

Don't know about them we don't have them in Hamilton:greengrin

Instant for any double yellow

Single and double yellow lines are the same thing only difference is that doubles count 24hrs a day single is only for specific times

Five minutes for a single yellow...and if they've other yellow markings crossing them it's an instant ticket after the time shown on some sign that is probably covered in spraypaint and miles away

Yellow kerb markings are loading restrictions double 24hrs and single durind specific periods they are instant tickets

The white zig-zags at crossings are an instant ticket and 3 points!!

Yep avoid them like the plague same for the yellow zig zags outside schools

Blue badges CANNOT park on double yellows or bloody taxi ranks!

Correct


That's the info I got from these meanies but I'll stand corrected as I'm not convinced they are 100% sure of the rules themselves.

The above are just my opinions I will try and confirm or change them over the next few days.

[J-C]

Even if you park on a single yellow for ten minutes you are entitled to a ticket. A double yellow is an instant ticket no matter the circumstances....never mind ten.

If you know someone who works for a garage just ask them to write you an invoice for a tow, show it to the ticketing people and tell them you had broken down. They'll drop it if you do that.


A few years back my taxi had broken down, and the AA towed me to my garage in Lower Gilmore Pl, I placed a note in the window stating I had broken down and put the keys through the garage letter box. Needless to say the old blue meanies had come along and gave me a ticket, even when I had a sign stating I had broken down and the taxi was right outside the garage door.

Also got a ticket and 3 points for parking on zig zags in Haymarket Ter while I helped an elderly man upstairs with his mesages, the traffic wardens were about 50yds away and seen me park there, even seen me helping the eldery gent and still gave me a ticket. A policeman mate of mine said he mustn't have got his nookie that day from his wife as generally a wee warning is the norm.


Got a ticket at 6.15 pm in Bread St some months ago, traffic warden was 50 yds or so up the street, I went into Starbucks for a coffee, came out and the wee **** was giving me a ticket, he said it was the rules and I said your a little midget ******wit, or something like that.


So don't talk to me about traffic wardens. :grr::greengrin

[The Green Goblin]

I can't see there being same rules for single yellows as doubles. Here's what I have been told.

Technically:

Instant ticket for any red lines.

Instant for any double yellow

Five minutes for a single yellow...and if they've other yellow markings crossing them it's an instant ticket after the time shown on some sign that is probably covered in spraypaint and miles away

The white zig-zags at crossings are an instant ticket and 3 points!!

Blue badges CANNOT park on double yellows or bloody taxi ranks!



That's the info I got from these meanies but I'll stand corrected as I'm not convinced they are 100% sure of the rules themselves.


I think blue (disabled driver) badges can park on double yellows, in some circumstances.

GG

[J-C]

I think blue (disabled driver) badges can park on double yellows, in some circumstances.

GG


Yes they can, as long as they're not causing an obstruction.

[Pete]

A few years back my taxi had broken down, and the AA towed me to my garage in Lower Gilmore Pl, I placed a note in the window stating I had broken down and put the keys through the garage letter box. Needless to say the old blue meanies had come along and gave me a ticket, even when I had a sign stating I had broken down and the taxi was right outside the garage door.

Also got a ticket and 3 points for parking on zig zags in Haymarket Ter while I helped an elderly man upstairs with his mesages, the traffic wardens were about 50yds away and seen me park there, even seen me helping the eldery gent and still gave me a ticket. A policeman mate of mine said he mustn't have got his nookie that day from his wife as generally a wee warning is the norm.


Got a ticket at 6.15 pm in Bread St some months ago, traffic warden was 50 yds or so up the street, I went into Starbucks for a coffee, came out and the wee **** was giving me a ticket, he said it was the rules and I said your a little midget ******wit, or something like that.


So don't talk to me about traffic wardens. :grr::greengrin

You obviously fell into the "easy target" catagory.

Where are these people from 7:30am-9:30am and 4:00pm-6:30pm?

They're on George street while these planks who can't read park in bus lanes to get their breakfast rolls, do their banking or pick up their pizza while buses and taxis cause mayhem by trying to get around them.

Apparently there's one boy on a scooter to patrol the main artrerial route from the city to the airport...from Haymarket Terr. to the end of Corstorphine Road...and I haven't seen him for months!

[Pete]

Yes they can, as long as they're not causing an obstruction.

Are the fact that these lines are there not an indication that if you park on them you ARE causing an obstruction...or is it down to the discression of the warden?

[J-C]

You obviously fell into the "easy target" catagory.

Where are these people from 7:30am-9:30am and 4:00pm-6:30pm?

They're on George street while these planks who can't read park in bus lanes to get their breakfast rolls, do their banking or pick up their pizza while buses and taxis cause mayhem by trying to get around them.

Apparently there's one boy on a scooter to patrol the main artrerial route from the city to the airport...from Haymarket Terr. to the end of Corstorphine Road...and I haven't seen him for months!


He sits out at Corstorphine moving cars from around the RBS bank in St John's Rd and surrounds, a real pain in the arse at 11am when sod all is happening.

[J-C]

Are the fact that these lines are there not an indication that if you park on them you ARE causing an obstruction...or is it down to the discression of the warden?


What about the double yellow in Little king St, disabled can park there all the time and are not blocking anything.

[Darth Hibbie]

http://www.direct.gov.uk/dr_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/documents/digitalasset/dg_070563.pdf

Road markings explained here.


About the Blue Badge Scheme


The Blue Badge Scheme allows people with severe mobility problems who have difficulty using public transport to park for free. This means badge holders can park close to where they need to go. The scheme operates throughout the UK.
About the scheme
The Blue Badge Scheme only applies to on-street parking.
Badge holders may park on single or double yellow lines for up to three hours in England and Wales, except where there is a ban on loading or unloading.
There is no time limit for parking on yellow lines in Scotland.
Badge holders may park for free and for as long as they need to at on-street parking meters and pay-and-display machines, unless there is a traffic sign specifying a time limit for holders of Blue Badges.
Where a time limit is in force, you must display both the Blue Badge and the special blue parking disc showing time of arrival.
While the scheme operates throughout the UK, there are small variations in its application in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Please see the relevant website for further information. The information on this page relates to England unless specified.

[Judas Iscariot]

Just as well the debt is small, otherwise they'd send the baliff round to do a 'poinding'. Basically looking at your stuff to see if there is anything worth taking.

They'll take a more expensive electrical item to pay a small debt. Doesn't bother them.

Unless that is now illegal in Scotland - can't remember. There were murmourings about banning it, IIRC?

This is Scotland though, ****my debt collectors can't do that nonsense here..

Unless the council send you a letter recorded delivery you've never heard any correspondence from them :wink:

Don't contact them, don't give them your phone number!

[Chuckie]

Bump

[ronaldo7]

Got a parking ticket last Tuesday at 9.50pm having parked on a double yellow for about 10mins while I waited to get my sister off the train at Weaverly.
Needless to say I was furious considering the time of day it was. In the past I've always just taken it on the chin and paid but out of curiousity whay would happen if I didnt pay?

Has anyone ever done this or am I asking for more trouble but just playing dumb?

All help appreciated. Any Hibs supporting traffic wardens out there? :wink:

Just send the bill to your sister. £30 cheap at the price:wink:

[Woody1985]

They would need to prove that the registered keeper of the car was driving it at the time it was parked. If they do not have photographic evidence and you do not admit they have no chance. Its up to you if you want the hassle of ignoring it or pay up for an easy life.

If the poster goes to moneysavingexpert.com there's a guide on private land parking.

That's got all sorts of info on how to get out of paying. However, their suggestion is that you just pay up.

[derekHFC]

Am i correct in saying that a parking ticket isn't actually enforceable until they place it on your windscreen AND take a picture of it being there and your vehicle being on the line/zig-zags?

Without a photo to prove it, you could deny being there as its your word against the wardens.

[Darth Hibbie]

Am i correct in saying that a parking ticket isn't actually enforceable until they place it on your windscreen AND take a picture of it being there and your vehicle being on the line/zig-zags?

Without a photo to prove it, you could deny being there as its your word against the wardens.

The photo is not required but it would give you a better chance of fighting it at court if there was not one.

[davym7062]

Got a parking ticket last Tuesday at 9.50pm having parked on a double yellow for about 10mins while I waited to get my sister off the train at Weaverly.

Needless to say I was furious considering the time of day it was. In the past I've always just taken it on the chin and paid but out of curiousity whay would happen if I didnt pay?

Has anyone ever done this or am I asking for more trouble but just playing dumb?

All help appreciated. Any Hibs supporting traffic wardens out there? :wink:

the defence rests

[steakbake]

the defence rests

I think the prosecution would be happier with that statement than the defence!

Not picking out anyone's response in particular but what about peoples own sense of honesty and integrity?

If you're spotted by the traffic wardens stopped on the double yellows and they give you a ticket as a result, can people not just accept its a fair cop, pay the fine and that's the end of it? Maybe it's an old fashioned view of mine, but instead of finding a slippery way out of paying it and accepting that you were in the wrong, you'll be quicker and more honest sticking the cheque in the post and being done with it.

[ArabHibee]

The photo is not required but it would give you a better chance of fighting it at court if there was not one.

Had that one tried on me before. They took a photo of the car stating a valid parking ticket wasn't being displayed. Thing was, the photo was taken from the passenger's side and did not show the whole of the dashboard in it. I argued that the ticket was being displayed at the driver's side of the dashboard and why would I display a ticket on the passenger side when I was the only one in the car? Dundee City Council parking attendants for you.

And before anyone jumps down my throat, I was displaying a valid parking ticket, the attendant just couldn't be arsed looking for it!

[Bayern Bru]

Absolute disgrace that the laws of the land apply 24/7. After the watershed you should be able to rob off licences, mug old ladies, drink drive, whatever, with impunity. :agree:

I don't see why not. I tend to keep my criminal activities between the hours of 11pm and 3am, and so far, I've had no hassle.

Whereas some people keep it for between 3pm and 5pm on Saturdays and 7.45pm and 10pm on Wednesday nights, so I hear.

[SneakersO'Toole]

Thanks for the responses everyone.

Actually managed to speak with a friend of a friend who works for the council. To re-iterate what a lot of you have said, its not worth the hassel of not paying .

Therefore I have... :wink:

[ronaldo7]

Thanks for the responses everyone.

Actually managed to speak with a friend of a friend who works for the council. To re-iterate what a lot of you have said, its not worth the hassel of not paying .

Therefore I have... :wink:

Did you send your sis the bill though:greengrin