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poolman
10-02-2010, 07:21 AM
Quitr right Brian, I'm sick of bloody Bono and Geldof and the likes spouting off at every opportunity

Gaun yersel Brian

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/acdc-singer-brian-johnson-blasts-bob-geldof-bono/story-e6frfn09-1225826215165

hibsbollah
10-02-2010, 08:36 AM
I cant stand Bono or Geldof either but i'm not sure he can get away with the comment 'the (Live Aid) money didnt go to poor people':confused: I can see a court case looming...

Hainan Hibs
10-02-2010, 08:39 AM
AC/DC just got a new fan:thumbsup:

Steve-O
10-02-2010, 08:41 AM
I cant stand Bono or Geldof either but i'm not sure he can get away with the comment 'the (Live Aid) money didnt go to poor people':confused: I can see a court case looming...

I think the inference is that it went to the governments of certain countries who then squandered a lot of the money on things other than helping it's starving people.

I don't think he's suggesting Geldof pocketed the cash.

SlickShoes
10-02-2010, 08:51 AM
I hate Bono so anything said to bad mouth him is fine with me. I must say i dont like it when celebrities are pressuring normal folk into giving money like he says, sometimes even people on a good wage struggle to get by.

Many people give to charity anyway and i really hate being made to feel guilty for not giving 10 quid to the latest campaign. Celebrities just have no comprehension of what actual money management is about, my guess is they would appear on TV or whatever ask and beg for your money to go to charity and then go and and have a meal that costs more than what the average person makes in a week anyway.

It pisses me off and Bono thinks hes jesus or something, im sure he could get by without his massive house and all the luxuaries he has so why not sell it all, give it to poor people and live like a normal person if it means that much!

hibsbollah
10-02-2010, 08:54 AM
I think the inference is that it went to the governments of certain countries

Is that true? I dont know much about it but I assume the Live Aid money went to charities on the ground in Ethiopia etc?

I remember reading tha Stings Rainforest charity failed independent audits and a large proportion of the money raised mysteriously 'disappeared'....so im sure its possible...

Peevemor
10-02-2010, 09:00 AM
I don't disagree with him, but how much are tickets for an AC/DC concert these days and how much will he make personally from each gig?

Maybe he's not as fussed about the "working man" as he's making out.

70hibby
10-02-2010, 09:13 AM
I don't disagree with him, but how much are tickets for an AC/DC concert these days and how much will he make personally from each gig?

Maybe he's not as fussed about the "working man" as he's making out.

Cost me £65 for the Hampden gig and it was worth every penny ! ...they may be old but the show they put on is superb :thumbsup: ....they show some younger bands how to do it !

EuanH78
10-02-2010, 09:56 AM
AC/DC just got a new fan:thumbsup:

You should have been an AC/DC fan anyway :tsk tsk::rules: :greengrin

Phil D. Rolls
10-02-2010, 04:06 PM
Bono is a bawbag.

FACT

hibsbollah
10-02-2010, 04:20 PM
Bono is a bawbag.

FACT

End of. :agree:

Sylar
10-02-2010, 04:33 PM
I hate Bono so anything said to bad mouth him is fine with me. I must say i dont like it when celebrities are pressuring normal folk into giving money like he says, sometimes even people on a good wage struggle to get by.

Many people give to charity anyway and i really hate being made to feel guilty for not giving 10 quid to the latest campaign. Celebrities just have no comprehension of what actual money management is about, my guess is they would appear on TV or whatever ask and beg for your money to go to charity and then go and and have a meal that costs more than what the average person makes in a week anyway.

It pisses me off and Bono thinks hes jesus or something, im sure he could get by without his massive house and all the luxuaries he has so why not sell it all, give it to poor people and live like a normal person if it means that much!

Reminds me of a joke I once heard:

What's the difference between God and Bono?




God doesn't walk around Heaven thinking he's Bono :greengrin

Dashing Bob S
10-02-2010, 10:10 PM
Nice one Brian Johnson. Anyone who lays into that cogswalker (to be said in Mexican bandit accent) Boner is wonderful by me.

Steve-O
11-02-2010, 06:47 AM
Is that true? I dont know much about it but I assume the Live Aid money went to charities on the ground in Ethiopia etc?

I remember reading tha Stings Rainforest charity failed independent audits and a large proportion of the money raised mysteriously 'disappeared'....so im sure its possible...

Much of the money raised by Live Aid went to NGOs in Ethiopia, some of which were under the influence or control of the Derg military junta. Some journalists have suggested that the Derg was able to use Live Aid and Oxfam money to fund its enforced resettlement and "villagification" programmes, under which at least 3 million people are said to have been displaced and between 50,000 and 100,000 killed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_Aid

As for Bono, I don't know if you guys watch or read every interview he ever does, but I can't really recall any where he is begging for money for anything? Nor do I feel any pressure to give any money for any cause he or anyone else raises awareness for.

At least he appears to be genuine in his charity work and concerns, not like all these erses who come out of the woodwork when any natural disaster occurs and record a charity song etc etc.

J-C
11-02-2010, 07:45 AM
I don't disagree with him, but how much are tickets for an AC/DC concert these days and how much will he make personally from each gig?

Maybe he's not as fussed about the "working man" as he's making out.


The thing here is he's not spouting off about giving to charity etc.

Ask yourself this, how much is a U2 ticket and how much of that said money is going to charity. :confused:

Steve-O
11-02-2010, 07:55 AM
The thing here is he's not spouting off about giving to charity etc.

Ask yourself this, how much is a U2 ticket and how much of that said money is going to charity. :confused:

You'll find that a massive amount of it is going towards putting on the actual show and trailing it around the world.

Please don't try and claim Bono and U2 do nothing for charity while telling everyone else to donate because that is simply not true.

J-C
11-02-2010, 02:53 PM
You'll find that a massive amount of it is going towards putting on the actual show and trailing it around the world.

Please don't try and claim Bono and U2 do nothing for charity while telling everyone else to donate because that is simply not true.


I don't think I made such a claim, I asked how much of any said U2 ticket money goes to charity, not how much Bono or U2 actually donate, please don't try to put words into my mouth.

I think what Brian Johnston is saying is less telling ordinary people to always give and lets see more of these famous musical artists stick their hand in their wealthy pockets and give some of their money.

Steve-O
14-02-2010, 01:20 AM
I don't think I made such a claim, I asked how much of any said U2 ticket money goes to charity, not how much Bono or U2 actually donate, please don't try to put words into my mouth.

I think what Brian Johnston is saying is less telling ordinary people to always give and lets see more of these famous musical artists stick their hand in their wealthy pockets and give some of their money.

And what I am saying is that Bono and co. don't 'always' tell people to hand over money, and that they DO put their hand in their own pockets, quite a bit, not to mention the actual time Bono donates to these causes.

Hibbyradge
14-02-2010, 08:58 AM
When did Bono or Geldof or anyone else last "tell anyone" to hand over money?

Geldof, Kerr and Bono are using their fame to generate help for people who can't afford to feed themselves, never mind buy a CD or go to a gig.

They can't solve the problems of Africa themselves, but the publicity they generate keeps the issues in the public domain and keeps pressure on the politicians.

Brian Johnston's approach would allow the issue to conveniently slip out of the public's conscience.

So, as irritating as Bono and Jim Kerr may be, their actions are making some sort of difference.

I would guess that the vast majority of people who complain about celebrities "spouting off" on issues, are just feeling guilty because they don't give to charities regularly themselves.

Also, I don't really understand why people feel that musicians shouldn't get involved in politics.

I don't have much time for Bono - he's so up himself it's incredible - but he doesn't gain anything from his involvement with these causes.

There are few "ordinary" people who can command such an audience and I'm certain the causes involved are extremely grateful for his work even if it's uncomfortable for some.

J-C
14-02-2010, 09:50 AM
And what I am saying is that Bono and co. don't 'always' tell people to hand over money, and that they DO put their hand in their own pockets, quite a bit, not to mention the actual time Bono donates to these causes.


I never said he didn't, the fact you accused me of saying he never gave to charity was a bit presumptuous on your part and literally putting words into my mouth. I asked how much of any U2 gig monies goes to charity, a bit different, so in future don't make statements looking for an arguments.

This is a discussion thread about what Brian Johnston said about so called stars ranting on all the time about people giving money and doing charity gigs for publicity.:grr:

Hibrandenburg
14-02-2010, 03:20 PM
When did Bono or Geldof or anyone else last "tell anyone" to hand over money?

Geldof, Kerr and Bono are using their fame to generate help for people who can't afford to feed themselves, never mind buy a CD or go to a gig.

They can't solve the problems of Africa themselves, but the publicity they generate keeps the issues in the public domain and keeps pressure on the politicians.

Brian Johnston's approach would allow the issue to conveniently slip out of the public's conscience.

So, as irritating as Bono and Jim Kerr may be, their actions are making some sort of difference.

I would guess that the vast majority of people who complain about celebrities "spouting off" on issues, are just feeling guilty because they don't give to charities regularly themselves.

Also, I don't really understand why people feel that musicians shouldn't get involved in politics.
I don't have much time for Bono - he's so up himself it's incredible - but he doesn't gain anything from his involvement with these causes.

There are few "ordinary" people who can command such an audience and I'm certain the causes involved are extremely grateful for his work even if it's uncomfortable for some.

Musicians should keep as far away from politics as they are from reality. Most of these guys have been living in pop star cuckoo land since they were in their late teens.

They're a bit like the queen in that they must think the real world smells of wet paint, because a few hours before they arrive anywhere it gets a little facelift.

Steve-O
14-02-2010, 07:09 PM
I never said he didn't, the fact you accused me of saying he never gave to charity was a bit presumptuous on your part and literally putting words into my mouth. I asked how much of any U2 gig monies goes to charity, a bit different, so in future don't make statements looking for an arguments.

This is a discussion thread about what Brian Johnston said about so called stars ranting on all the time about people giving money and doing charity gigs for publicity.:grr:

The way you worded it suggested it was a rhetorical question.

J-C
14-02-2010, 08:54 PM
The way you worded it suggested it was a rhetorical question.


Nah! just curious how much of their hard earned money goes towards charity, as when they're doing their wee charity gigs and asking us for money all the time, we don't know if they themselves are delving into their own pockets, or just doing the gigs for free cause it's" for charity ".

Steve-O
14-02-2010, 09:00 PM
Nah! just curious how much of their hard earned money goes towards charity, as when they're doing their wee charity gigs and asking us for money all the time, we don't know if they themselves are delving into their own pockets, or just doing the gigs for free cause it's" for charity ".

Trust me, U2, and Bono in particular have given a lot of time and money to charity.

As for all these others 'stars' that come out of the woodwork when any natural disaster in the world occurs, I'm not so sure.