Terry's infidelity nothing to do with football?

[IndieHibby]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8502923.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8502923.stm)

Do you agree with the Minister for Health - Terry should be captain for his footballing ability alone?

Or are you like me and think that a leader can only lead if those who would follow have respect and our leaders behave in such a way as to engender respect?

Is this typical of politicians, or just Labour Politicians, or just men? Or is he a moron?

[Leicester Fan]

Considering the amount of Labour MPs who'd like to sack their own captain maybe it'd be better if he minded his own business.

[Betty Boop]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8502923.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8502923.stm)

Do you agree with the Minister for Health - Terry should be captain for his footballing ability alone?

Or are you like me and think that a leader can only lead if those who would follow have respect and our leaders behave in such a way as to engender respect?

Is this typical of politicians, or just Labour Politicians, or just men? Or is he a moron?

Having an affair didn't seem to do much damage to the heir to the throne. I don't see many people saying he shouldn't be King of the UK.

[Jack]

I cant believe for a minute the media found out about his indiscretions before all his mates [and fellow pros] did. He was still the captain.

If the media had been barred from making these revelations, he’d have still been captain.

The actual story only really affects the lives of half a dozen folk or so. The rest of us are just lookers on and what he did or didn’t do isn't really our business.



Now I’d say it was different if it was a politician because they are forever being very moralistic and telling us what we can and cannot do … for our own good of course.

[Phil D. Rolls]

Considering the amount of Labour MPs who'd like to sack their own captain maybe it'd be better if he minded his own business.

Not to mention the number who roger each other's wives. :greengrin

[Part/Time Supporter]

The rest of the football world is laughing at English hypocrisy and prudishness.

[hibsdaft]

nothing to do with football? tell that to Wayne Bridge. the truth is that this is far more complicated than your average "****ging about" story because of who he was ****ging about with.

if one of my friends did this to another friend in my old 5's team they'd of been an outcast, thrown out the team. thats got nothing to do with prudishness or hypocrisy but basic solidarity inherent in true friendship, and standards.

really Terry should probably have resigned the captaincy (and maybe even retired from international football for a period) on that basis without being forced to.

[(((Fergus)))]

Is it true he was selling tours of the Chelsea training ground for £10k a go or was that all mince?

[ArabHibee]

nothing to do with football? tell that to Wayne Bridge. the truth is that this is far more complicated than your average "****ging about" story because of who he was ****ging about with.

if one of my friends did this to another friend in my old 5's team they'd of been an outcast, thrown out the team. thats got nothing to do with prudishness or hypocrisy but basic solidarity inherent in true friendship, and standards.

really Terry should probably have resigned the captaincy (and maybe even retired from international football for a period) on that basis without being forced to.

I think the main difference between the Terry story and your scenario is he plays football as a source of employment and your 5's team is for recreation. Money talks I'm afraid.

Not that I am really fussed either way but I don't think he should have been relieved of the England captaincy. If it was affecting his ability to do the job, then yes but Capello wouldn't have been able to know this until the next England game came about.

But anything to scupper England's World Cup attempt is fine by me! :greengrin

[hibsdaft]

I think the main difference between the Terry story and your scenario is he plays football as a source of employment and your 5's team is for recreation. Money talks I'm afraid.

not when he plays for England though...

[CropleyWasGod]

not when he plays for England though...

When he is with England, he is working. That's the difference. Work. If we could all choose our workmates, life would be nice. But we can't; we have to work with people we can't stand.

Footballers are no different. JT and WB will have to deal with it.

[Phil D. Rolls]

Does anyone think John Terry would have any chance of getting near the sort of women he is bedding if he wasn't a footballer?

My guess is he would have a very large Rohypnol bill if he was to have any chance at all.

[Woody1985]

Is it true he was selling tours of the Chelsea training ground for £10k a go or was that all mince?

It appeared true given the photos in the paper.

Although, to be fair, he was giving the portion of money he earned to his charity IIRC. The guy who set it up also took a few k fee for arranging through Terry though.

Other than it being a major security risk (:faf:) at least he wasn't keeping the money.

[(((Fergus)))]

It appeared true given the photos in the paper.

Although, to be fair, he was giving the portion of money he earned to his charity IIRC. The guy who set it up also took a few k fee for arranging through Terry though.

Other than it being a major security risk (:faf:) at least he wasn't keeping the money.

If it was all for a good cause, why didn't he get the OK from Chelsea?

[lapsedhibee]

Does anyone think John Terry would have any chance of getting near the sort of women he is bedding if he wasn't a footballer?

My guess is he would have a very large Rohypnol bill if he was to have any chance at all.

"Now then Debbie, what was it that first attracted you to £170,000-a-week John Terry?"

[Ed De Gramo]

its when the 'Team' t-shirts come out that it becomes a farce

[Woody1985]

If it was all for a good cause, why didn't he get the OK from Chelsea?

Hold on, I'll go ask him!

I only read what was reported...

I think they would have been more inclined to say he spent it on prossies and coke if that's what they thought he was doing. Maybe he was buying gifts for Bridges missus :faf:

[(((Fergus)))]

Hold on, I'll go ask him!

I only read what was reported...

I think they would have been more inclined to say he spent it on prossies and coke if that's what they thought he was doing. Maybe he was buying gifts for Bridges missus :faf:

Whatever he spent it on, he allegedly went behind the back of his contractual partner.

[Woody1985]

Whatever he spent it on, he allegedly went behind the back of his contractual partner.

There's no doubt on that one.

We all know that clubs don't really give a **** if it means that they don't lose money in any way, whether that being a player or sponsorship/gate receipts.

[--------]

Odd headline to the Chelsea item on the BBC webpage....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport)

[McHibby]

"Now then Debbie, what was it that first attracted you to £170,000-a-week John Terry?"


:faf: Oh, that made me laugh! Bring back Mrs Merton!

Although I think that JT is an absolute sh*t for what he's done, I don't think people should be sacked for sha**ing around. Can you imagine getting sacked from your job because your boss found out you'd cheated on your wife/gf - you'd take them to the cleaners, and rightly so.

(NB not sure why all the sympathy is going to Bridge, he's not even with the woman - is this a male thing? It's Terry's missus I feel sorry for)

[Woody1985]

Odd headline to the Chelsea item on the BBC webpage....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport)

Terry on top as Arsenal fade again?! :faf:

[IndieHibby]

I'm not sure that comparisons with getting the sack from your work are fair, tbh.

He is still going to be first pick for CH. It's just his leadership role that has been taken from him.

Think about all the people he'd have to meet, dinners to go to, functions to attend, promotional material, kid's days, charity days etc etc as the main man in English Football. All the while the tabloids are screaming blue murder about his betrayal of his wife and kids.

I just don't understand the defence of him or his captaincy...

[McHibby]

I'm not sure that comparisons with getting the sack from your work are fair, tbh.

He is still going to be first pick for CH. It's just his leadership role that has been taken from him.



I was more thinking along the lines of when politicians have to stand down because of affairs. It's a nonsense. Since when did being unfaithful mean you were no longer good at your job? I think Capello probably did the right thing, cos the story is just snowballing now. But to be honest I would have thought the fact he's 'selling' tours of Stamford Bridge and trying to flog his personal box at Wembley were more of a story (and worthy of being de-captained!) than cheating on his wife.

[IndieHibby]

I was more thinking along the lines of when politicians have to stand down because of affairs. It's a nonsense. Since when did being unfaithful mean you were no longer good at your job? I think Capello probably did the right thing, cos the story is just snowballing now. But to be honest I would have thought the fact he's 'selling' tours of Stamford Bridge and trying to flog his personal box at Wembley were more of a story (and worthy of being de-captained!) than cheating on his wife.

I read about that, saw the pics and everything, then wondered why nothing came of it. According to some on here he claimed it was for charity and all was OK. I don't believe that for a second.

I reckon he got a bollocking from the co. and they invented the charity story to douse the fire, preventing further damage to the 'Cheslki' brand....

Never mind, eh Abrahmovic? :wink:

[ancient hibee]

Capello is no mug-he knows it would have been a continuing distraction and as he doesn't give a monkey's who the captain is he gave him the elbow.As far as Capello is concerned what he says is to happen on the field happens -he doesn't need a captain to carry out his plans because if a player doesn't do what he's told he's out.

[Pete]

Capello is no mug-he knows it would have been a continuing distraction and as he doesn't give a monkey's who the captain is he gave him the elbow.As far as Capello is concerned what he says is to happen on the field happens -he doesn't need a captain to carry out his plans because if a player doesn't do what he's told he's out.

I couldn't care less how England do but what I do like is Capellos style: No nonsense, no carry-on...and it's my way or the highway!

I think the captains role in a team has been diluted in recent years. All they really do is become sort sort of public face of the team. They toss coins and lift trophies if need be. You could argue that they bark orders and motivate players but there are four or five other "captains" in that England team who do that job already without the armband.

Far from being "crass", it was a decisive and assertive move that shows whos boss...and that the boss's personal principles and beliefs should be respected if you wan't to maintain your position in the England team.

Makes a change from Sven who probably would have let Terry keep the armband.....and then check up on this bird just to make sure she was OK.