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Alfred E Newman
05-02-2010, 08:20 AM
More woe for the travelling circus. Hearts due him £100000 seemingly.

KerPlunk
05-02-2010, 08:33 AM
Been here before, eh ? Anderton, Burley et al - "Aye, you'll get your money eventually but only if you let us superglue yer lips together - sign here.."

Good luck, Shabs. :agree:

Edinburgh Green
05-02-2010, 08:41 AM
Where did you read this?

The_Todd
05-02-2010, 08:54 AM
This is in the Express. A horrid rag, I know, and some all or none of this may be true:


SACKED Csaba Laszlo is ready to take legal action against Hearts.

The former Tynecastle boss was bulleted last week but has still to be offered a settlement over the remaining five months of his contract.


Laszlo, below, claims he is due more than £100,000 and has been informed he could have a case for unfair dismissal against the Gorgie club.


It’s understood the Hungarian kept a log of events, including interference in team selections from the Tynecastle hierarchy, during his time at Hearts and is ready to use it.


Laszlo, 45, believes he was being forced out, and that was the reason the club failed to secure his transfer targets Izale McLeod from Charlton and Plymouth’s Steven MacLean, who has since joined Aberdeen.


Jose Goncalves was the man who brought Laszlo’s reign to an end. Laszlo included Goncalves in his squad for the match at St Johnstone on January 30 and was ready to defy an alleged order from the Tynecastle top brass not to play the Portuguese ace.

He says they did not want Goncalves to play for the club again because he had knocked back a new contract, and having gone against their instructions on the Friday before the game, Laszlo was fired.

New Hearts manager Jim Jefferies has since backed the club’s stance over Goncalves.


The bit in bold is interesting. I thought not playing Goncalves was JJ's decisions, no? Funny that.

1875er
05-02-2010, 08:55 AM
Its in the Daily Express...

Jeez that will be a long court case.... imagine Shabby giving evidence!

CropleyWasGod
05-02-2010, 09:37 AM
I read an interesting piece in one of the better papers last week that suggested that, far from being unfairly dismissed, it could be argued that Csaba broke his own contract. By continually bad-mouthing his bosses in public, and touting himself for other jobs, he could have been sacked for misconduct.

Part/Time Supporter
05-02-2010, 09:45 AM
I read an interesting piece in one of the better papers last week that suggested that, far from being unfairly dismissed, it could be argued that Csaba broke his own contract. By continually bad-mouthing his bosses in public, and touting himself for other jobs, he could have been sacked for misconduct.

Did he badmouth them? All he said was "gies a striker", really.

Jim44
05-02-2010, 09:45 AM
There's probably blame on both sides and I suspect Vlad will get away with a small out of court settlement.

CropleyWasGod
05-02-2010, 10:01 AM
Did he badmouth them? All he said was "gies a striker", really.

... continually. I don't think I'd be happy with my staff criticising me, implicitly or explicitly, in public.

ballengeich
05-02-2010, 10:09 AM
Can Goncalves sue as well? His treatment could be constructive dismissal.

Andy74
05-02-2010, 10:15 AM
... continually. I don't think I'd be happy with my staff criticising me, implicitly or explicitly, in public.

I'd think it's a bit different. As a football manager he would be within his rights to answer questions on matters to do with the team. He should be allowed to say his team needs a striker, which they do, without that being taken as a criticism of his bosses.

Booked4Being-Ugly
05-02-2010, 10:15 AM
Can Goncalves sue as well? His treatment could be constructive dismissal.He hasn't been dismissed though, just dropped!

Sudds_1
05-02-2010, 10:18 AM
Think his biggest problem will be getting the Mad One to pay up..........

He's working the media well though, have to give that to him. :wink:

ballengeich
05-02-2010, 11:34 AM
He hasn't been dismissed though, just dropped!

As I understand it, constructive dismissal is when an employer behaves in a way that makes it impossible for you to do your job. Telling a player he won't play unless he signs a new contract seems to fit this.

If anyone specialises in employment law feel free to correct me.

Leithenhibby
05-02-2010, 11:52 AM
Its in the Daily Express...

Jeez that will be a long court case.... imagine Shabby giving evidence!



Er, er, er, er, er, PMSL...:faf:

Booked4Being-Ugly
05-02-2010, 11:59 AM
As I understand it, constructive dismissal is when an employer behaves in a way that makes it impossible for you to do your job. Telling a player he won't play unless he signs a new contract seems to fit this.

If anyone specialises in employment law feel free to correct me.

He could probably take it up with the Hearts Human Resource but i've a sneaky suspicion that Vlad is the head of that department as well! :wink:

brog
05-02-2010, 12:06 PM
I read an interesting piece in one of the better papers last week that suggested that, far from being unfairly dismissed, it could be argued that Csaba broke his own contract. By continually bad-mouthing his bosses in public, and touting himself for other jobs, he could have been sacked for misconduct.

That was the spin coming out of the Comedy Club. As another poster says, there will be an out of court settlement which includes a " silence " commitment & then the Politburo will return to normal.

Mary Hinge
05-02-2010, 12:21 PM
I read an interesting piece in one of the better papers last week that suggested that, far from being unfairly dismissed, it could be argued that Csaba broke his own contract. By continually bad-mouthing his bosses in public, and touting himself for other jobs, he could have been sacked for misconduct.

A can't remember where I read it but one of the other reasons for Shabby's dismissal was "continually undermining the owner by asking for new players"

He's the team manager FFS :crazy:

GordonR
05-02-2010, 12:22 PM
He should be grateful they're not starting a whispering campaign about his private life, and trying to smear him as a drunk and a lech, as they did with Burley.

They really are a bunch of cheapskate, deceitful and unscrupulous pondlife running that club now.

ancient hibee
05-02-2010, 12:26 PM
I find it interesting that Campbell Ogilvie has been invisible during all these shenannigans.

hibsboy90
05-02-2010, 12:36 PM
Csaba kept a log of all the team interference, i'd love to see that get leaked to the press....

Mon Dieu4
05-02-2010, 12:38 PM
Csaba kept a log of all the team interference, i'd love to see that get leaked to the press....

With all the interference at that club I bet its in more boxes than their planning application :agree:

lapsedhibee
05-02-2010, 12:39 PM
With all the interference at that club I bet its in more boxes than their planning application :agree:

:agree: "Now that's what I call a witness statement!"

Phil D. Rolls
05-02-2010, 01:20 PM
Nothing to see here, move along.

Where are you going Jumbo?

Mibbes Aye
05-02-2010, 01:25 PM
Yet another tawdry episode in the recent history of Homfc.

The rest of the footballing world considers them a complete laughing-stock. Yet you have to wonder how many of their so-called fans can see it.

Where's their pride??? :confused:

NOLA
05-02-2010, 02:09 PM
I actually quite miss shabba and his ramblings, always a good laugh and who could forget his wee dance after the celtic game, much better than greeting faced jumbo.

Mibbes Aye
05-02-2010, 02:34 PM
I actually quite miss shabba and his ramblings, always a good laugh and who could forget his wee dance after the celtic game, much better than greeting faced jumbo.

:agree: For a sixth-choice gaffer, he was a first-class slaver.

I only see Sad Jeff as a stopgap, TBH.

Vlad knows the score. And when the time is right, he will unveil a proper leader. A man who knows what it's like to pick the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.

Step up to the plate (again) Eduardo :thumbsup::thumbsup: (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wb8bAl1P-N0/SAy_3RiBOuI/AAAAAAAACEE/cQ3Gc5jTp3E/s320/sniffing+glue.jpg)

HibeeMcGinn1
05-02-2010, 08:47 PM
Jury Duty anyone? :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Capt Mainwaring
05-02-2010, 09:21 PM
Jury Duty anyone? :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

No shortage of 12 Angry Men down Gorgie way!:greengrin

polmontscott
05-02-2010, 10:16 PM
ok...i dont post often but i feel compelled to "out" the rest of you'z .."cant remember where i saw it" lads !!...er em ...the Daily Star...go on admit it you lot !!

monktonharp
05-02-2010, 10:31 PM
no way Csaba will win this one. Vlad will get him on a tecnicality: no your honour; it was Funfair dismisal,and i'm the ringmaster so I can boot him anyhoo.

Green'nWhite
06-02-2010, 12:36 AM
There is surely no point in trying to squeeze a dry sponge but what the hell, get in there Shabba.

Is a court case not now just the standard for all departing Hearts managers?

Bostonhibby
06-02-2010, 09:19 AM
If I were him, and assuming he is happy to be on the run for the rest of his life with a suitcase full of false beards, noses and wigs as disguises I wouldnt bother with the proceedings, I would sell the diary to the highest bidding newspaper and give the rest of us a laugh for years and maybe open up at least a few yam eyes to reality.!

Moulin Yarns
06-02-2010, 09:26 AM
ok...i dont post often but i feel compelled to "out" the rest of you'z .."cant remember where i saw it" lads !!...er em ...the Daily Star...go on admit it you lot !!

In the newsagent where I get my copy of the Scotsman newspaper, that rag is placed in the space above, and I think for the past two or three weeks it has been called the Daily Jordan :greengrin

ArabHibee
06-02-2010, 09:43 AM
He should be grateful they're not starting a whispering campaign about his private life, and trying to smear him as a drunk and a lech, as they did with Burley.

They really are a bunch of cheapskate, deceitful and unscrupulous pondlife running that club now.

Is that not true though?

sunshine1875
06-02-2010, 09:55 AM
This could get messy............

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/scotland/article7017100.ece (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/scotland/article7017100.ece)

keep the faith
06-02-2010, 10:20 AM
I dont know how these things work, but I have always found it strange that everyone signs these secrecy agreements over there.

Rix for instance only had a few months on his contract, so paying him off would have been relatively cheap. You would imagine he would have got a lot more by selling his story to the press, yet he still signed the agreement.

An offer he couldnt refuse? Shaba seems to have a bit more balls than the others so it may be interesting.

johnrebus
06-02-2010, 10:21 AM
Please, please let this get to court ....,


:pray:

Bostonhibby
06-02-2010, 10:30 AM
I dont know how these things work, but I have always found it strange that everyone signs these secrecy agreements over there.

Rix for instance only had a few months on his contract, so paying him off would have been relatively cheap. You would imagine he would have got a lot more by selling his story to the press, yet he still signed the agreement.

An offer he couldnt refuse? Shaba seems to have a bit more balls than the others so it may be interesting.

A horses head in the bed or a visit from an "official" from PBS like the secrecy agreement enforcer below.