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Pete
02-02-2010, 11:17 PM
Robbie Keane is this personified. Whenever he has scored against a team he has previously played for he slopes off with a stern look on his face leaving his team mates celebrating around him.

I also remember Grant Brebner scoring against us and he was almost holding his hands up apologising to us.

People who do that seem to be held in high regard for some reason because they don't wan't to disrespect their former employers or the team they support but I see it the other way...I see it as being simply direspectful towards the team that they play for now and the team that pays their wages. It's also disrespecting your current team mates.

I can't remember a Hibs player ever doing this but if he did I'd be going mental. He's one of us and should be celebrating with us 100%. If he didn't I'd question his loyalty to the shirt.

If I was lucky enough to be a professional footballer and ever scored at Easter Road for another team I would go mental...and probably in front of the East. Not because I disrespect hibs but because I know people in there and I am playing for the team who's shirt I wear...and that's all that should count during the ninety minutes.

To me, people like Keane aren't fully commited to their shirt...which is why he has probably moved on so much in his career.

blackpoolhibs
02-02-2010, 11:20 PM
Derek Riordan did not celebrate when he scored against us, at easter road.

Hibercelona
02-02-2010, 11:22 PM
Robbie Keane is this personified. Whenever he has scored against a team he has previously played for he slopes off with a stern look on his face leaving his team mates celebrating around him.

I also remember Grant Brebner scoring against us and he was almost holding his hands up apologising to us.

People who do that seem to be held in high regard for some reason because they don't wan't to disrespect their former employers or the team they support but I see it the other way...I see it as being simply direspectful towards the team that they play for now and the team that pays their wages. It's also disrespecting your current team mates.

I can't remember a Hibs player ever doing this but if he did I'd be going mental. He's one of us and should be celebrating with us 100%. If he didn't I'd question his loyalty to the shirt.

If I was lucky enough to be a professional footballer and ever scored at Easter Road for another team I would go mental...and probably in front of the East. Not because I disrespect hibs but because I know people in there and I am playing for the team who's shirt I wear...and that's all that should count during the ninety minutes.

To me, people like Keane aren't fully commited to their shirt...which is why he has probably moved on so much in his career.

So you would go mental in a Hearts strip if you scored at ER? :devil:

Personally, I don't see celebrating/non celebrating as respectful or disrespectful.

It's simply down to the players choice.

As long as he is fully committed during game play, then it shouldn't really matter whether he celebrates or not.

shamo9
02-02-2010, 11:30 PM
I don't really care what a player does, the fact that he's scored a goal suggests he's fully committed. Celebrations are generally overdone now anyone. It's refreshing to watch old football matches of Hibs and see the players simply pat each other on the back and get back to the halfway line. There's a certain amount of confidence and self belief displayed when player's don't really celebrate (as if it's all just business as usual).

Footballers are too quick to forget where they came from and who helped make them what they are. Petulantly goading people who were once your family (and did nothing abhorrent to you) always strikes me as a slap in the face. For me, I think it's the teammates of the player who scored for them who are being disrespectful if they can't fulfill their mate's simple wish to refrain from jumping around for one bloody second.

Pete
02-02-2010, 11:32 PM
So you would go mental in a Hearts strip if you scored at ER? :devil:

Personally, I don't see celebrating/non celebrating as respectful or disrespectful.

It's simply down to the players choice.

As long as he is fully committed during game play, then it shouldn't really matter whether he celebrates or not.

Yes, I probably would....purely to show unity with my team mates and the fans who pay my wages who would also be going mental.

I think celebrating with your team mates actually shows commitment during play. If you don't celebrate then you are alienating yourself in some way from the rest of your team and putting personal preferences first during the ninety minutes.

As for Derek, I can't remember that but how long did he last at Celtic?

shamo9
02-02-2010, 11:32 PM
Derek Riordan did not celebrate when he scored against us, at easter road.

Jumping into the away support to embrace his 'new family' seemed like a pretty big celebration to me. Incidentally, I remember Kevin Thomson abstaining from celebrating on his first game back at E.R when Rangers scored.

jgl07
02-02-2010, 11:34 PM
Carlos Tevez refused to celebrate when he scored against his former club West Ham for Man City.

When he scored against United I seem to recall a celebration!

Malthibby
02-02-2010, 11:35 PM
I remember Thompson at that game too - he left badly but always thought that was a mark of respect. Don't see how that could be taken badly.

Pete
02-02-2010, 11:38 PM
I don't really care what a player does, the fact that he's scored a goal suggests he's fully committed. Celebrations are generally overdone now anyone. It's refreshing to watch old football matches of Hibs and see the players simply pat each other on the back and get back to the halfway line. There's a certain amount of confidence and self belief displayed when player's don't really celebrate (as if it's all just business as usual).

Footballers are too quick to forget where they came from and who helped make them what they are. Petulantly goading people who were once your family (and did nothing abhorrent to you) always strikes me as a slap in the face. For me, I think it's the teammates of the player who scored for them who are being disrespectful if they can't fulfill their mate's simple wish to refrain from jumping around for one bloody second.

I'm not talking about cartwheels etc...I'm just talking about showing some pleasure in the fact you've scored and a bit of emotion.

The matches you were watching must have been from the fifties.

blackpoolhibs
02-02-2010, 11:40 PM
Jumping into the away support to embrace his 'new family' seemed like a pretty big celebration to me. Incidentally, I remember Kevin Thomson abstaining from celebrating on his first game back at E.R when Rangers scored.

Not how i remember it. He came in late at the far post, to squeeze in a shot. His momentum took him and the ensuing players into the fans. He had no smile, and never raised his hands in glory. He celebrates when he scores for us, and that was nowhere near a celebration imho.

Pete
02-02-2010, 11:44 PM
I remember Thompson at that game too - he left badly but always thought that was a mark of respect. Don't see how that could be taken badly.

That was up to the Rangers fans.

Spudster
02-02-2010, 11:44 PM
Derek Riordan did not celebrate when he scored against us, at easter road.

Think he was booked for his celebration as it was so OTT :confused:

seanraff07
02-02-2010, 11:48 PM
Carlos Tevez refused to celebrate when he scored against his former club West Ham for Man City.

When he scored against United I seem to recall a celebration!
No wonder, im on players sides when they get abuse from fans the whole game then when they score and celebrate infront of them the fans go crazy and go on about how outrageous it is, if fans give out all that abuse they should be able to take some back, Tevez got abuse from Man.Utd fans.

iwasthere1972
02-02-2010, 11:50 PM
Henrik Larsson didn't celebrate his goal for Barcelona against Celtic in Glasgow.

Hibercelona
02-02-2010, 11:53 PM
Yes, I probably would....purely to show unity with my team mates and the fans who pay my wages who would also be going mental.
I think celebrating with your team mates actually shows commitment during play. If you don't celebrate then you are alienating yourself in some way from the rest of your team and putting personal preferences first during the ninety minutes.

As for Derek, I can't remember that but how long did he last at Celtic?

Even if there's no guarantee of your wages being paid on time? :wink:

I could never "go mental" with another team if I scored at ER.

I would probably have a light celebration, but that would be it.

The away fans would be too busy cheering to pay any attention to what i'm doing after the goal.

Sammy7nil
02-02-2010, 11:56 PM
Denis Law probably most famous he cried i think :boo hoo:

shamo9
02-02-2010, 11:57 PM
Did people not kick up a big fuss when Murray gave Hibs fans the finger at Ibrox?

shamo9
03-02-2010, 12:02 AM
Not how i remember it. He came in late at the far post, to squeeze in a shot. His momentum took him and the ensuing players into the fans. He had no smile, and never raised his hands in glory. He celebrates when he scores for us, and that was nowhere near a celebration imho.

Just watched the game on Hibs TV and he shakes the hand of a few Celtic fans in the crowd, walks away grinning - which, considering he's usually in a perpetual state of moaning, is quite easy to spot - and gives a double high five to a teammate. Not that it really matters any more though.

Dunbar Hibee
03-02-2010, 12:17 AM
I actually respect players that don't celebrate when scoring against former teams. And for the record I dont think Deek's was a celebration his momentum carried him into the unwashed.

_hucks_
03-02-2010, 12:19 AM
Derek Riordan did not celebrate when he scored against us, at easter road.


Think he was booked for his celebration as it was so OTT :confused:

His momentum carried him into the crowd and he got booked, but he hit it after sprinting down to the touchline and there was little he could have done.

jgl07
03-02-2010, 01:07 AM
Denis Law probably most famous he cried i think :boo hoo:
Nearly.

I was standing right behind the goal in that match.

The ball came across the goal with Law having his back to goal just in front of the line.

The world seemed to stop Law hesitated for a moment and then cooly backheeled the ball into the net.

Seconds later the final whistle went and City had won at Old Trafford in the League for the sixth time out of seven matches (the other was a draw).

The truth landed that United were down. In fact they needed a real combination of results to stay up and would have gone down even with a win as Birmingham also won.

NaeTechnoHibby
03-02-2010, 01:15 AM
Just watched the game on Hibs TV and he shakes the hand of a few Celtic fans in the crowd, walks away grinning - which, considering he's usually in a perpetual state of moaning, is quite easy to spot - and gives a double high five to a teammate. Not that it really matters any more though.

Given his aversion to Wee GS's exclusion of him from the team, yer the Celtc support at that time thought he was worth more "game time", it was a hiding to nothing for him scoring at ER :agree:

He got a goal for them against us didnae intend to do anything other than raise his arm, but was carried away with the momemtum of his teamates IMO :agree:

What do you expect him to do...smack their faces and run to the East stand to plead for apologies :rolleyes:

SanFranHibs
03-02-2010, 01:53 AM
Hard to celebrate when you are in shock !

Haymaker
03-02-2010, 02:00 AM
Carlos Tevez refused to celebrate when he scored against his former club West Ham for Man City.

When he scored against United I seem to recall a celebration!

IIRC he scored against the Irons in the colours of Utd and refused to celebrate.

WestEndHibee
03-02-2010, 09:11 AM
Go to 3:39 on YouTube - Hibs 3 Celtic 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYu2CI_Tbfg). This is a great way to disrespect a team that kick-started his career. Disgusting

Great game mind ;)

NORTHERNHIBBY
03-02-2010, 09:14 AM
I have never seen Nade celebrating much, but that may be for other reasons.

scoopyboy
03-02-2010, 09:24 AM
Robbie Keane is this personified. Whenever he has scored against a team he has previously played for he slopes off with a stern look on his face leaving his team mates celebrating around him.

I also remember Grant Brebner scoring against us and he was almost holding his hands up apologising to us.

People who do that seem to be held in high regard for some reason because they don't wan't to disrespect their former employers or the team they support but I see it the other way...I see it as being simply direspectful towards the team that they play for now and the team that pays their wages. It's also disrespecting your current team mates.

I can't remember a Hibs player ever doing this but if he did I'd be going mental. He's one of us and should be celebrating with us 100%. If he didn't I'd question his loyalty to the shirt.

If I was lucky enough to be a professional footballer and ever scored at Easter Road for another team I would go mental...and probably in front of the East. Not because I disrespect hibs but because I know people in there and I am playing for the team who's shirt I wear...and that's all that should count during the ninety minutes.

To me, people like Keane aren't fully commited to their shirt...which is why he has probably moved on so much in his career.

In what game did Grant Brebner score against us?

Not doubting you but cannot remember it.

Speedway
03-02-2010, 09:26 AM
Not how i remember it. He came in late at the far post, to squeeze in a shot. His momentum took him and the ensuing players into the fans. He had no smile, and never raised his hands in glory. He celebrates when he scores for us, and that was nowhere near a celebration imho.

The number of times Lofty got beaten from an angle like that wasn't funny.

Steve20
03-02-2010, 09:34 AM
Riordan did celebrate his goal against us. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that, as I think players should celebrate scoring, even when against a club they used to play for.

Hibee-Rocker
03-02-2010, 09:38 AM
Im no a big fan of players over celebrating a goal anyway, to celebrate going 1 nil up like you have just won the cup in first half is too much, just a little celebration is fine, and keep your head on the job still to do..then if that done at end of the game, then celebrate away..

KWJ
03-02-2010, 09:43 AM
Denis Law probably most famous he cried i think :boo hoo:

Yup. Relegated Man Yoo yeah? And it was a back heal!

hibsbollah
03-02-2010, 09:46 AM
Go to 3:39 on YouTube - Hibs 3 Celtic 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYu2CI_Tbfg). This is a great way to disrespect a team that kick-started his career. Disgusting

Great game mind ;)

Nothing disgusting about it at all. We had spent the preceding hour singing 'gary caldwell, gary caldwell, whats it like to **** a hun?' at him. He was perfectly entitled to give it back IMO, as was Boruc. It just added to the theatre:greengrin

totalfootball
03-02-2010, 09:47 AM
Brebner scored against us at ER put them 1 up,think o'conner equalised and Ivan came off the bench and scored the winner, it was the week after his hatrick at hunbrox

Edinburgh Green
03-02-2010, 10:02 AM
Henrik Larsson didn't celebrate his goal for Barcelona against Celtic in Glasgow.

Would of been class if he'd giving it big licks after sprinting the full pitch.

Sudds_1
03-02-2010, 10:44 AM
Denis Law probably most famous he cried i think :boo hoo:

Remember that one well....backheel from about 4 yards.

Did it not put the nail in the Manu coffin that year and sent them down as well?

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03-02-2010, 10:54 AM
Denis Law probably most famous he cried i think :boo hoo:

Yup. No way he was going to celebrate that goal. I'd have thought much the less of him if he had.

YouTube - [73/74] Manchester Utd v Manchester City, Apr 27th 1974 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO-GYmp_1Gk)


Relegated them.

Munson7
03-02-2010, 11:11 AM
Henrik Larsson didn't celebrate his goal for Barcelona against Celtic in Glasgow.

I did, it won me £1240.

:greengrin

blackpoolhibs
03-02-2010, 11:16 AM
Anyone got a link to Riordans celebration after scoring against Hibs?

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03-02-2010, 11:16 AM
Im no a big fan of players over celebrating a goal anyway, to celebrate going 1 nil up like you have just won the cup in first half is too much, just a little celebration is fine, and keep your head on the job still to do..then if that done at end of the game, then celebrate away..


:agree: A slap on the scorer's back, or a quick manly handshake's all that's required.

In fact, even that's taking things too far sometimes. :wink:

Bad Martini
03-02-2010, 11:31 AM
:agree: A slap on the scorer's back, or a quick manly handshake's all that's required.

In fact, even that's taking things too far sometimes. :wink:

I think Zemama had it right when he was yellow carded that time.....:thumbsup:

silverhibee
03-02-2010, 11:32 AM
His momentum carried him into the crowd and he got booked, but he hit it after sprinting down to the touchline and there was little he could have done.

Must be the wrong player, Deeks a lazy wee sod didn't you know.:thumbsup:

Franck is God
03-02-2010, 11:44 AM
Scoring a goal in football is the best thing you can do and should always be celebrated regardless of who it's against.

I hate seeing players getting booked for over celebration, it's one thing if it's likely to cause a riot or get anyone injured but if not I don't see a problem with it.

by the way Riordan did celebrate his goal with the Celtic fans without rubbing it in, I saw nothing wrong with that.

JeMeSouviens
03-02-2010, 11:46 AM
Riordan's goal for Celtc at ER at 3.10

YouTube - Derek Riordan - The Goals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUP-_61GP1g)

lapsedhibee
03-02-2010, 11:47 AM
Can't believe we're in to the second page of a thread about showing appropriate respect to previous clubs and Ray Wilkins hasn't been mentioned!

:sick:

Hibee-Rocker
03-02-2010, 12:03 PM
Scoring a goal in football is the best thing you can do and should always be celebrated regardless of who it's against.

I hate seeing players getting booked for over celebration, it's one thing if it's likely to cause a riot or get anyone injured but if not I don't see a problem with it.

by the way Riordan did celebrate his goal with the Celtic fans without rubbing it in, I saw nothing wrong with that.

I agree with you about getting booked for celebrating, it is a bit much, but i think the best thing you can do in football is win the game.

Marty-Hibee
03-02-2010, 12:21 PM
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01480/emmanuel-adebayor_1480515c.jpg (http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01480/emmanuel-adebayor_1480515c.jpg)

That is celebrating a goal! Thought it was silly at the time, but it is quite funny to watch now:greengrin

Monktonhall 7
03-02-2010, 02:28 PM
Did anyone notice Wee Danny Swansons lack of celebration against us at Tannadice a couple of weeks ago? Very respectful to the team he supports, but I was still gutted about going 1 down.:grr:

TRC
03-02-2010, 02:33 PM
His momentum carried him into the crowd and he got booked, but he hit it after sprinting down to the touchline and there was little he could have done.

Derek sprinting :confused: